Most Casualised Sequel This Gen?

After the NG3 fiasco going on, I just want to see what your thoughts are.

It could be making an extremely hard and long campaign into an easy peasy five hour roller coaster ride or turning a game of an obscure genre into a more common one. Basically a sequel to an already terrific game into something that appeals to bro gamers and the like.

Call of Duty? Didn't play the ones before 4 so I don't know how much skill it required.

Call of Duty? Didn't play the ones before 4 so I don't know how much skill it required.

Klipsh

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Call of Duty? Didn't play the ones before 4 so I don't know how much skill it required.

freedomfreak

Front Mission Evolved, without a doubt.

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Call of Duty? Didn't play the ones before 4 so I don't know how much skill it required.

PC4lifeman2233

I guess it would be Operation Flashpoint Dragon Rising.tagyhag

No other answer comes close...

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Call of Duty? Didn't play the ones before 4 so I don't know how much skill it required.

freedomfreak

I personally think casualization has to do with dumbing down the complexity of the mechanics in a game, not difficulty. Most hardcore games praised by the gaming community and critics are easy on normal.

For example MGS4 can be seen as dumbed down because you are almost never required to use stealth, it's possible to just run & gun. When something like stealth is optional that means the levels aren't optimized with stealth in mind and that can hurt the game. The run & gun itself can still be hard or easy difficulty wise, so it's not a matter of difficulty. Another example is removing RPG elements from ME.

I haven't played NG3 but Fable series is getting butchered by casualization WoW expansions packs are pretty guilty of this too NEWMAHAY

Out of the games I've played this gen, Fable takes it. At this rate, it'll be just a slide-show in another game or two.

[QUOTE="NEWMAHAY"]I haven't played NG3 but Fable series is getting butchered by casualization WoW expansions packs are pretty guilty of this too Legendaryscmt

Out of the games I've played this gen, Fable takes it. At this rate, it'll be just a slide-show in another game or two.

MW2

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[QUOTE="NEWMAHAY"]I haven't played NG3 but Fable series is getting butchered by casualization WoW expansions packs are pretty guilty of this too ferret-gamer

Out of the games I've played this gen, Fable takes it. At this rate, it'll be just a slide-show in another game or two.

Just off the top of my head, reduced the amount of spells you can cast, got rid of the lifebar, got rid of the magic bar, no stat progression/armor stats, story went to absolute sh*t.

MW2 comes to mind very quickly.

Call of Duty? Didn't play the ones before 4 so I don't know how much skill it required.

Klipsh

Well i played COD1.

it was.... pretty much the same.

Splinter Cell Conviction? Maybe that wasn't casualised as such... more made really easy and took away the compulsary stealth...

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Out of the games I've played this gen, Fable takes it. At this rate, it'll be just a slide-show in another game or two.

Legendaryscmt

Just off the top of my head, reduced the amount of spells you can cast, got rid of the lifebar, got rid of the magic bar, no stat progression/armor stats, story went to absolute sh*t.

MW2 all day the last COD I ever played.

Nearly all of them.

Shogun 2: Fall of the Samurai, I mean adding guns? They are just trying to appease the CoD/BF crowd

Rainbow Six. Went from casualised to even more casualised, and soon to be even more casualised.

Sim City Societies.kidcool189

Probably Tactical Shooters like Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon and Operation Flashpoint.

How the f*** did not anyone else say Ghost Recon?

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Call of Duty? Didn't play the ones before 4 so I don't know how much skill it required.

SuperFlakeman

I personally think casualization has to do with dumbing down the complexity of the mechanics in a game, not difficulty. Most hardcore games praised by the gaming community and critics are easy on normal.

For example MGS4 can be seen as dumbed down because you are almost never required to use stealth, it's possible to just run & gun. When something like stealth is optional that means the levels aren't optimized with stealth in mind and that can hurt the game. The run & gun itself can still be hard or easy difficulty wise, so it's not a matter of difficulty. Another example is removing RPG elements from ME.

Dragon Age 2 for me. Ugh compared to the first what a downgrade that steaming pile was.

Mass Effect 2

Probably Tactical Shooters like Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon and Operation Flashpoint.

glez13

How the f*** did not anyone else say Ghost Recon?

mitu123

Deus Ex: HR.

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Call of Duty? Didn't play the ones before 4 so I don't know how much skill it required.

PC4lifeman2233

Every freaking BioWare sequel. I've lost interest in all of their games thanks to stupid design changes.

SimCity Societies

comes to mind.

even a R-word can win at the game, you literally cannot lose.

Farmville has more strategy to it then SimCity Societies did.

Dragon Age II or CoD (any of the recent few), take your pick.

EDIT:

FEAR 2, nuff said.hiphops_savior

Oh yea, good call. FEAR is still one of my favorite shooters and 2 & 3 just ruined it.

Brawl

Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age 2 and Splinter Cell Conviction

>[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"]FEAR 2, nuff said.arto1223

Oh yea, good call. FEAR is still one of my favorite shooters and 2 & 3 just ruined it.

That's what was so great about MGS4. Many different ways to tackle each situation you're faced with. Wouldn't call it dumbing down since the Stealth Elements are the same from previous MGS games, more like expanding. Mass Effect's RPG mechanics were dumbed down, so that would be an acceptable answer. But not MGS4Slashless

Yeah I agree, that's not what I meant. I think some people see the mere fact that it's possible to finish the game without stealth as dumbed down.