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#1 texasgoldrush
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Overrated: God of War III

Its between Heavy Rain, GOW III, FFXIII,or Halo Reach...but whileHeavy Rain was aworthy effort despite its flaws, its GOW III that is the benifit of overhype. This game was an epic disappointment, especially in the story telling department. While the first game had a servicable story, the second one sucked, but this is dog turd. This series devolved into basically testostrone torture porn for teenage boys in which Kratos not only has to kill his enemies, but torture them as brutally as possible...because its cool. Also, any substance this game was supposed to have..fell flat...with a terrible ending. The gameplay is also shallow and repetitve, with only the bosses that stand out, until the very disappointing final battle. Gamecritics everwhere rode the hype train to overhype with this game...giving the game a pass in its many flaws. not seeing it as the average action game it is.

Underrated: Metro 2033

This game is an underrated gem, especially now with the Ranger Pack. Really, evolution from Bioshock, the levels are widely varied in gameplay. Each stage has something different to offer, different enemies, setups, and situations. Many stages have multiple ways to complete them, especially the stages with human enemies. Most of these stages can be completed without killing anyone and in two stages, its an achievement. The Front Line stages deserves special mention. The guns are pretty awesome, especially the Helsing and the VNV with a scope. The Heavy Auto Shotgun, a DLC gun, levels enemies in seconds. The story is excellent and thought provoking, questioning whether humans are worse monsters than the "threat" Arytom faces. Choices also play a big role which impact the ending. A game that should have scored a 90 on Metacritic.

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#2 oldkingallant
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Overrated by the real world or by people on System Wars? Because my two answers would probably literally switch places depending on which one.

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Stopped reading at God of War.

I may not be a huge fan of the series but its a damn well made game of overall quality, thats for sure.

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Underrated: Metro 2033 The overrated stuff would get annoying because I feel too many games got a free pass on so many aspects(be it Red Dead, God of War 3, Halo Reach), but the one game that makes me question the sanity and taste of some people/review sources(yeah sue me for being a douche about this) is Mafia 2. It has plenty of good ideas, and yes the authenticity of that era is captured so nicely. **** that game though. On consoles the gun play is just flat out awful, and even on a PC it wouldn't be much outside of what you get in every other third person action game. The cover scheme is clunky no matter what platform you play it on, the hubworld is entirely presentation focused and serves no real game play service outside of a ton of driving, and oh my christ are the mission scenarios boring. The one saving grace the game could have is the story/presentation, but that is entirely compromised because Vito is such a terrible lead. The ending just immortalized him in my eyes for the Douchebag Hall of Fame.
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#5 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

Stopped reading at God of War.

I may not be a huge fan of the series but its a damn well made game of overall quality, thats for sure.

crap can be well made.
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#6 Grawse
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Not sure about overrated, but I think MAG was wayyy underrated.

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I'm pretty bored of the sony ultra linear games so I gotta agree about GoW3 but I haven't played Metro yet but I will probably(I've been playing around with onlive lately and it says it's coming.)

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#8 Twin-Blade
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Overrated - SMG2. Lots of people disagree therefor I'm wrong but if I had to say something was overrated this year I guess I'd have to answer with SMG2. I just can't enjoy the Super Mario titles near as much as others.

Underrated - NIER. 5.0? Seriously Gamespot? One of the best RPGs I've played in awhile & it gets a 5.0.

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The overrated stuff would get annoying because I feel too many games got a free pass on so many aspects(be it Red Dead, God of War 3, Halo Reach), but the one game that makes me question the sanity and taste of some people/review sources(yeah sue me for being a douche about this) is Mafia 2. It has plenty of good ideas, and yes the authenticity of that era is captured so nicely. **** that game though. On consoles the gun play is just flat out awful, and even on a PC it wouldn't be much outside of what you get in every other third person action game. The cover scheme is clunky no matter what platform you play it on, the hubworld is entirely presentation focused and serves no real game play service outside of a ton of driving, and oh my christ are the mission scenarios boring. The one saving grace the game could have is the story/presentation, but that is entirely compromised because Vito is such a terrible lead. The ending just immortalized him in my eyes for the Douchebag Hall of Fame. jg4xchamp

From what I have played of Mafia 2, I agree. It was pretty bad, and I predicted it.

As for Underrated, I guess I'll say MHtri, because nothing else really springs up in my mind ATM.

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Overrated: Heavy Rain- While I almost feel bad for singling out a single game as overrated considering how thoroughly mediocre (at best) the average "AAA" title is, to have such piss-poor writing in a game that is entirely dependent on its story is inexcusable.

Underrated: Halo Reach- Out of the 2010 games I've played, I don't think any of them would qualify as "underrated". I suppose ME2 is under-appreciated in comparison to most other highly-rated titles, but it's hard to call a game that popular and well received "underrated". So I'll say Reach for ****s and giggles, and we'll see how many people only read the bold parts.

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I don't have any overrated but.... Underrated: RED STEEL 2 There is no fps game on any console that matches or brings about the uniqueness and gaming style with its productive use of Wii Motion Plus that gives out sword combat performance unlike anything ever this proficiently enhanced in gaming.
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#12 Ragnarok1051
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Bayonetta is extremely overrated while FF13 is extremely underrated.

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overrated: GOW3

underrated: pokemon HG/SS.

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Bayonetta is extremely overrated while FF13 is extremely underrated.

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FFXIII deserves worse reception than it got.....the highly linear gameplay could be forgiven if it had a good story...its story was complete crap along with the characters. The series is over the hill.
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Bayonetta is extremely overrated while FF13 is extremely underrated.

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I was thinking about buying Bayonetta to find out what all the fuss was about. I didn't look great from all the clips I've watched. I agree FF13 is underrated, but it scored an 8.5 & I'd say it was deserving of a 9.0, so I wouldn't say extremely.

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Overrated: God of War III

Its between Heavy Rain, GOW III, FFXIII,or Halo Reach...but whileHeavy Rain was aworthy effort despite its flaws, its GOW III that is the benifit of overhype. This game was an epic disappointment, especially in the story telling department. While the first game had a servicable story, the second one sucked, but this is dog turd. This series devolved into basically testostrone torture porn for teenage boys in which Kratos not only has to kill his enemies, but torture them as brutally as possible...because its cool. Also, any substance this game was supposed to have..fell flat...with a terrible ending. The gameplay is also shallow and repetitve, with only the bosses that stand out, until the very disappointing final battle. Gamecritics everwhere rode the hype train to overhype with this game...giving the game a pass in its many flaws. not seeing it as the average action game it is.

Underrated: Metro 2033

This game is an underrated gem, especially now with the Ranger Pack. Really, evolution from Bioshock, the levels are widely varied in gameplay. Each stage has something different to offer, different enemies, setups, and situations. Many stages have multiple ways to complete them, especially the stages with human enemies. Most of these stages can be completed without killing anyone and in two stages, its an achievement. The Front Line stages deserves special mention. The guns are pretty awesome, especially the Helsing and the VNV with a scope. The Heavy Auto Shotgun, a DLC gun, levels enemies in seconds. The story is excellent and thought provoking, questioning whether humans are worse monsters than the "threat" Arytom faces. Choices also play a big role which impact the ending. A game that should have scored a 90 on Metacritic.

texasgoldrush

says the guy that said Castlevania will destroy GoW3.

anyways,

overrated: Red Dead Redemption.

that game was a borefest. you can hunt? bleh. there's only so much animals in that world. the weapons are so-so. story was slow. graphics weren't great (sure, since it's an open-world game. but it still sucks). the first few hours were good. but once you get into Mexico 'til Blackwater while completing challenges and stranger missions, it gets totally boring. collect these or hunt these, etc. *barfs*. where's the 200+ random events? all i see was a lady asking for help then suddenly exposing bandits tying to rob me. or a man/woman getting chased by wolves. psh. Multiplayer was totally crappy. first off, the lobby system sucks. i wanna get into a game but everytime i go into free roam there's only me or one other person. how can i even get to a game if there's only 1 person in my lobby?

underrated: (in Gamespot scores) Heavy Rain and Castlevania

playing Heavy Rain on Hard Mode was so kickass. especcialy if you're trying to have all 4 alive 'til the very end.

from the looks of it, Castlevania is considered a great game if it didn't have 'Castlevania' on the title. i would've loved if game 'journalists' :lol: reviewed the game for what it is instead of what they wanted it to be.

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Underrated- Tatsunoko vs Capcom: Ultimate All-Stars.
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#18 SolidTy
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You are bashing GOWIII again? That game is not your favorite. :P

Castlevania:LoS will Destroy GOWIII by Texasgoldrush. ;)


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#19 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

Bayonetta is extremely overrated while FF13 is extremely underrated.

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I was thinking about buying Bayonetta to find out what all the fuss was about. I didn't look great from all the clips I've watched. I agree FF13 is underrated, but it scored an 8.5 & I'd say it was deserving of a 9.0, so I wouldn't say extremely.

If you go by what system wars says it scored a 5. :P
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#20 creaturemagic27
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Team fortress 2!!!! LOL. With the engi update and the new Mann-Conomy its a new and 10/10 game that gets overlooked in these kinda contestbecause it came out in 2007.

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Overrated: God of War III

Its between Heavy Rain, GOW III, FFXIII,or Halo Reach...but whileHeavy Rain was aworthy effort despite its flaws, its GOW III that is the benifit of overhype. This game was an epic disappointment, especially in the story telling department. While the first game had a servicable story, the second one sucked, but this is dog turd. This series devolved into basically testostrone torture porn for teenage boys in which Kratos not only has to kill his enemies, but torture them as brutally as possible...because its cool. Also, any substance this game was supposed to have..fell flat...with a terrible ending. The gameplay is also shallow and repetitve, with only the bosses that stand out, until the very disappointing final battle. Gamecritics everwhere rode the hype train to overhype with this game...giving the game a pass in its many flaws. not seeing it as the average action game it is.

Underrated: Metro 2033

This game is an underrated gem, especially now with the Ranger Pack. Really, evolution from Bioshock, the levels are widely varied in gameplay. Each stage has something different to offer, different enemies, setups, and situations. Many stages have multiple ways to complete them, especially the stages with human enemies. Most of these stages can be completed without killing anyone and in two stages, its an achievement. The Front Line stages deserves special mention. The guns are pretty awesome, especially the Helsing and the VNV with a scope. The Heavy Auto Shotgun, a DLC gun, levels enemies in seconds. The story is excellent and thought provoking, questioning whether humans are worse monsters than the "threat" Arytom faces. Choices also play a big role which impact the ending. A game that should have scored a 90 on Metacritic.

texasgoldrush

weren't you the same guy that claimed Castlevania: Lords of Shadows will "destroy" God of War 3 and it ended up scoring a 7.5 on here?

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#22 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="rawr89"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

Overrated: God of War III

Its between Heavy Rain, GOW III, FFXIII,or Halo Reach...but whileHeavy Rain was aworthy effort despite its flaws, its GOW III that is the benifit of overhype. This game was an epic disappointment, especially in the story telling department. While the first game had a servicable story, the second one sucked, but this is dog turd. This series devolved into basically testostrone torture porn for teenage boys in which Kratos not only has to kill his enemies, but torture them as brutally as possible...because its cool. Also, any substance this game was supposed to have..fell flat...with a terrible ending. The gameplay is also shallow and repetitve, with only the bosses that stand out, until the very disappointing final battle. Gamecritics everwhere rode the hype train to overhype with this game...giving the game a pass in its many flaws. not seeing it as the average action game it is.

Underrated: Metro 2033

This game is an underrated gem, especially now with the Ranger Pack. Really, evolution from Bioshock, the levels are widely varied in gameplay. Each stage has something different to offer, different enemies, setups, and situations. Many stages have multiple ways to complete them, especially the stages with human enemies. Most of these stages can be completed without killing anyone and in two stages, its an achievement. The Front Line stages deserves special mention. The guns are pretty awesome, especially the Helsing and the VNV with a scope. The Heavy Auto Shotgun, a DLC gun, levels enemies in seconds. The story is excellent and thought provoking, questioning whether humans are worse monsters than the "threat" Arytom faces. Choices also play a big role which impact the ending. A game that should have scored a 90 on Metacritic.

says the guy that said Castlevania will destroy GoW3.

anyways,

overrated: Red Dead Redemption.

that game was a borefest. you can hunt? bleh. there's only so much animals in that world. the weapons are so-so. story was slow. graphics weren't great (sure, since it's an open-world game. but it still sucks). the first few hours were good. but once you get into Mexico 'til Blackwater while completing challenges and stranger missions, it gets totally boring. collect these or hunt these, etc. *barfs*. where's the 200+ random events? all i see was a lady asking for help then suddenly exposing bandits tying to rob me. or a man/woman getting chased by wolves. psh. Multiplayer was totally crappy. first off, the lobby system sucks. i wanna get into a game but everytime i go into free roam there's only me or one other person. how can i even get to a game if there's only 1 person in my lobby?

underrated: (in Gamespot scores) Heavy Rain and Castlevania

playing Heavy Rain on Hard Mode was so kickass. especcialy if you're trying to have all 4 alive 'til the very end.

from the looks of it, Castlevania is considered a great game if it didn't have 'Castlevania' on the title. i would've loved if game 'journalists' :lol: reviewed the game for what it is instead of what they wanted it to be.

Its because GOW III was hyped to hell and like all games that are overhyped, it recieves inflated review scores. Castlevania on the other hand, not only has less hype (its not even advertised on IGN right now) also carries a stigma of being a 3d Castlevania, in which "purists" will whine about it. In fact IGN and Gamespot have been criticized for their reviews. Wait until the average gamer gets it and see that Castlevania offers more, even if the game is not as polished.
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#23 HelloMoto56
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[QUOTE="rawr89"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

Overrated: God of War III

Its between Heavy Rain, GOW III, FFXIII,or Halo Reach...but whileHeavy Rain was aworthy effort despite its flaws, its GOW III that is the benifit of overhype. This game was an epic disappointment, especially in the story telling department. While the first game had a servicable story, the second one sucked, but this is dog turd. This series devolved into basically testostrone torture porn for teenage boys in which Kratos not only has to kill his enemies, but torture them as brutally as possible...because its cool. Also, any substance this game was supposed to have..fell flat...with a terrible ending. The gameplay is also shallow and repetitve, with only the bosses that stand out, until the very disappointing final battle. Gamecritics everwhere rode the hype train to overhype with this game...giving the game a pass in its many flaws. not seeing it as the average action game it is.

Underrated: Metro 2033

This game is an underrated gem, especially now with the Ranger Pack. Really, evolution from Bioshock, the levels are widely varied in gameplay. Each stage has something different to offer, different enemies, setups, and situations. Many stages have multiple ways to complete them, especially the stages with human enemies. Most of these stages can be completed without killing anyone and in two stages, its an achievement. The Front Line stages deserves special mention. The guns are pretty awesome, especially the Helsing and the VNV with a scope. The Heavy Auto Shotgun, a DLC gun, levels enemies in seconds. The story is excellent and thought provoking, questioning whether humans are worse monsters than the "threat" Arytom faces. Choices also play a big role which impact the ending. A game that should have scored a 90 on Metacritic.

texasgoldrush

says the guy that said Castlevania will destroy GoW3.

anyways,

overrated: Red Dead Redemption.

that game was a borefest. you can hunt? bleh. there's only so much animals in that world. the weapons are so-so. story was slow. graphics weren't great (sure, since it's an open-world game. but it still sucks). the first few hours were good. but once you get into Mexico 'til Blackwater while completing challenges and stranger missions, it gets totally boring. collect these or hunt these, etc. *barfs*. where's the 200+ random events? all i see was a lady asking for help then suddenly exposing bandits tying to rob me. or a man/woman getting chased by wolves. psh. Multiplayer was totally crappy. first off, the lobby system sucks. i wanna get into a game but everytime i go into free roam there's only me or one other person. how can i even get to a game if there's only 1 person in my lobby?

underrated: (in Gamespot scores) Heavy Rain and Castlevania

playing Heavy Rain on Hard Mode was so kickass. especcialy if you're trying to have all 4 alive 'til the very end.

from the looks of it, Castlevania is considered a great game if it didn't have 'Castlevania' on the title. i would've loved if game 'journalists' :lol: reviewed the game for what it is instead of what they wanted it to be.

Its because GOW III was hyped to hell and like all games that are overhyped, it recieves inflated review scores. Castlevania on the other hand, not only has less hype (its not even advertised on IGN right now) also carries a stigma of being a 3d Castlevania, in which "purists" will whine about it. In fact IGN and Gamespot have been criticized for their reviews. Wait until the average gamer gets it and see that Castlevania offers more, even if the game is not as polished.

IGN and Gamespot?

what about Gametrailers, 1UP and Eurogamer? are they all suppose to be taken as biased because they didn't rate Castlevania to your liking?

face it, you were wrong. it didn't destroy God of War 3 critically, and it won't destroy God of War 3 commercially.

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#24 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="HelloMoto56"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="rawr89"]

says the guy that said Castlevania will destroy GoW3.

anyways,

overrated: Red Dead Redemption.

that game was a borefest. you can hunt? bleh. there's only so much animals in that world. the weapons are so-so. story was slow. graphics weren't great (sure, since it's an open-world game. but it still sucks). the first few hours were good. but once you get into Mexico 'til Blackwater while completing challenges and stranger missions, it gets totally boring. collect these or hunt these, etc. *barfs*. where's the 200+ random events? all i see was a lady asking for help then suddenly exposing bandits tying to rob me. or a man/woman getting chased by wolves. psh. Multiplayer was totally crappy. first off, the lobby system sucks. i wanna get into a game but everytime i go into free roam there's only me or one other person. how can i even get to a game if there's only 1 person in my lobby?

underrated: (in Gamespot scores) Heavy Rain and Castlevania

playing Heavy Rain on Hard Mode was so kickass. especcialy if you're trying to have all 4 alive 'til the very end.

from the looks of it, Castlevania is considered a great game if it didn't have 'Castlevania' on the title. i would've loved if game 'journalists' :lol: reviewed the game for what it is instead of what they wanted it to be.

Its because GOW III was hyped to hell and like all games that are overhyped, it recieves inflated review scores. Castlevania on the other hand, not only has less hype (its not even advertised on IGN right now) also carries a stigma of being a 3d Castlevania, in which "purists" will whine about it. In fact IGN and Gamespot have been criticized for their reviews. Wait until the average gamer gets it and see that Castlevania offers more, even if the game is not as polished.

IGN and Gamespot?

what about Gametrailers, 1UP and Eurogamer? are they all suppose to be taken as biased because they didn't rate Castlevania to your liking?

face it, you were wrong. it didn't destroy God of War 3 critically, and it won't destroy God of War 3 commercially.

1up and Eurogamer game good reviews...in fact Eurogamer is a tough critic in general. And like I said, critical sources are influenced by hype and routinely overrate games...GTA IV anyone. And who knows Castlevania is a much more well known series than GOW is, so it could sell more, especially if its multiplatform.
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1up and Eurogamer game good reviews...in fact Eurogamer is a tough critic in general. texasgoldrush
What did they give God of War III?

Oh.Snap.

Seriously, just because reviewers disagreed with YOUR OPINION of these games, doesn't mean they're over- or under-rated.

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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]1up and Eurogamer game good reviews...in fact Eurogamer is a tough critic in general. shinrabanshou

What did they give God of War III?

Oh.Snap.

Seriously, just because reviewers disagreed with YOUR OPINION of these games, doesn't mean they're over- or under-rated.

but if a game gets rave reviews but divides gamers...that means there are flaws that the reviewers overlooked. Reviews are only a snapshot on the views of the game at or before release...not its legacy. Look at GTA IV, 98 on Metcritic, but the game has the stigma of being overrated. I like the game, but the fact is, its called by many to be overrated.
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I honestly don't believe any of the games I've played this year are significantly over or under rated,
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[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]1up and Eurogamer game good reviews...in fact Eurogamer is a tough critic in general. texasgoldrush

What did they give God of War III?

Oh.Snap.

Seriously, just because reviewers disagreed with YOUR OPINION of these games, doesn't mean they're over- or under-rated.

but if a game gets rave reviews but divides gamers...that means there are flaws that the reviewers overlooked. Reviews are only a snapshot on the views of the game at or before release...not its legacy. Look at GTA IV, 98 on Metcritic, but the game has the stigma of being overrated. I like the game, but the fact is, its called by many to be overrated.

Plenty of games get rave reviews and get an out of line backlash. Some times it's not a matter of the game being overrated as much as the gaming community is just way too whiney. Offtopic, but ontopic Bayonetta kicks ass, yah buggin.
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#29 shinrabanshou
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but if a game gets rave reviews but divides gamers...that means there are flaws that the reviewers overlooked. Reviews are only a snapshot on the views of the game at or before release...not its legacy. Look at GTA IV, 98 on Metcritic, but the game has the stigma of being overrated. I like the game, but the fact is, its called by many to be overrated.texasgoldrush
No duh. Of course a review is a snapshot - it's static. And it's simply an opinion of one reviewer. People can call things over- or under-rated all they want - it doesn't change the fact that all that means is that their opinion is divergent from that of the reviewer, and they can't claim to be any more "right" than the review.

There will always be people who don't like a certain game or certain genre.

In the colloquial this is referred to as "Haters gonna hate".

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#30 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]but if a game gets rave reviews but divides gamers...that means there are flaws that the reviewers overlooked. Reviews are only a snapshot on the views of the game at or before release...not its legacy. Look at GTA IV, 98 on Metcritic, but the game has the stigma of being overrated. I like the game, but the fact is, its called by many to be overrated.shinrabanshou

No duh. Of course a review is a snapshot - it's static. And it's simply an opinion of one reviewer. People can call things over- or under-rated all they want - it doesn't change the fact that all that means is that their opinion is divergent from that of the reviewer, and they can't claim to be any more "right" than the review.

There will always be people who don't like a certain game or certain genre.

In the colloquial this is referred to as "Haters gonna hate".

there is an opinion, and there is a consensus of opinion, which is fact. I love Fallout 3, but I cannot ignore the fact that is has divided gamers and fans of the series. Its ignorance to not aknowledge this. To ignore them is also ignorance...as detractors do raise valid points....in F3's case, its the writing and the combat system, which can get tedious.

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#31 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]but if a game gets rave reviews but divides gamers...that means there are flaws that the reviewers overlooked. Reviews are only a snapshot on the views of the game at or before release...not its legacy. Look at GTA IV, 98 on Metcritic, but the game has the stigma of being overrated. I like the game, but the fact is, its called by many to be overrated.texasgoldrush

No duh. Of course a review is a snapshot - it's static. And it's simply an opinion of one reviewer. People can call things over- or under-rated all they want - it doesn't change the fact that all that means is that their opinion is divergent from that of the reviewer, and they can't claim to be any more "right" than the review.

There will always be people who don't like a certain game or certain genre.

In the colloquial this is referred to as "Haters gonna hate".

there is an opinion, and there is a consensus of opinion, which is fact. I love Fallout 3, but I cannot ignore the fact that is has divided gamers and fans of the series. Its ignorance to not aknowledge this.

A collection of opinions is just that a collection of opinions. Just because more people agree with the opinion doesn't make it a fact.
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#32 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]No duh. Of course a review is a snapshot - it's static. And it's simply an opinion of one reviewer. People can call things over- or under-rated all they want - it doesn't change the fact that all that means is that their opinion is divergent from that of the reviewer, and they can't claim to be any more "right" than the review.

There will always be people who don't like a certain game or certain genre.

In the colloquial this is referred to as "Haters gonna hate".

Ragnarok1051

there is an opinion, and there is a consensus of opinion, which is fact. I love Fallout 3, but I cannot ignore the fact that is has divided gamers and fans of the series. Its ignorance to not aknowledge this.

A collection of opinions is just that a collection of opinions. Just because more people agree with the opinion doesn't make it a fact.

here is an example Deus Ex is better than the sequel...this is an opinion

Deus Ex was far better recieved than the sequel by fans....that is a fact

It is a fact that the consensus of opinions is more positive for the original game than the sequel.

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#33 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] there is an opinion, and there is a consensus of opinion, which is fact. I love Fallout 3, but I cannot ignore the fact that is has divided gamers and fans of the series. Its ignorance to not aknowledge this. texasgoldrush

A collection of opinions is just that a collection of opinions. Just because more people agree with the opinion doesn't make it a fact.

here is an example Deus Ex is better than the sequel...this is an opinion Deus Ex was far better recieved than the sequel by fans....that is a fact It is a fact that the consensus of opinions is more positive for the original game than the sequel.

It makes it a fact that more people's opinion was favorable to the first one. It doesn't make it a fact that the first one was better. Others who enjoyed the second one makes them wrong?

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#34 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] there is an opinion, and there is a consensus of opinion, which is fact. I love Fallout 3, but I cannot ignore the fact that is has divided gamers and fans of the series. Its ignorance to not aknowledge this. texasgoldrush

A collection of opinions is just that a collection of opinions. Just because more people agree with the opinion doesn't make it a fact.

here is an example Deus Ex is better than the sequel...this is an opinion

Deus Ex was far better recieved than the sequel by fans....that is a fact

It is a fact that the consensus of opinions is more positive for the original game than the sequel.

And it would still be a meaningless comment in a debate to be quite honest. Who gives a **** which version the fans like more? Argue what it does right, what it does wrong, what it does better/worse(felt like shoe horning in my own comments). Personally both your point, and the argument of bringing up reviews is weak. If you're going to call something overrated/underrated or disagree with someone else's thoughts on why you think their comments are wrong...argue the points. A consensus of opinions, the written opinion of someone else, and all that crap isn't even worth mentioning. Though liking Invisible Wars over Deus Ex isn't even an opinion. It's bad taste.
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#35 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] A collection of opinions is just that a collection of opinions. Just because more people agree with the opinion doesn't make it a fact. jg4xchamp

here is an example Deus Ex is better than the sequel...this is an opinion

Deus Ex was far better recieved than the sequel by fans....that is a fact

It is a fact that the consensus of opinions is more positive for the original game than the sequel.

And it would still be a meaningless comment in a debate to be quite honest. Who gives a **** which version the fans like more? Argue what it does right, what it does wrong, what it does better/worse(felt like shoe horning in my own comments). Personally both your point, and the argument of bringing up reviews is weak. If you're going to call something overrated/underrated or disagree with someone else's thoughts on why you think their comments are wrong...argue the points. A consensus of opinions, the written opinion of someone else, and all that crap isn't even worth mentioning. Though liking Invisible Wars over Deus Ex isn't even an opinion. It's bad taste.

a consensus of opinions is a point...as you see, divided opinions usally come from flaws and in different levels of frusteration caused by them. This is a valid point to use in an argument. Why? Because, it shows the game has flaws and what these flaws are.

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#36 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] here is an example Deus Ex is better than the sequel...this is an opinion

Deus Ex was far better recieved than the sequel by fans....that is a fact

It is a fact that the consensus of opinions is more positive for the original game than the sequel.

texasgoldrush

And it would still be a meaningless comment in a debate to be quite honest. Who gives a **** which version the fans like more? Argue what it does right, what it does wrong, what it does better/worse(felt like shoe horning in my own comments). Personally both your point, and the argument of bringing up reviews is weak. If you're going to call something overrated/underrated or disagree with someone else's thoughts on why you think their comments are wrong...argue the points. A consensus of opinions, the written opinion of someone else, and all that crap isn't even worth mentioning. Though liking Invisible Wars over Deus Ex isn't even an opinion. It's bad taste.

a consensus of opinions is a point...as you see, divided opinions usally come from flaws and in different levels of frusteration caused by them. This is a valid point to use in an argument. Why? Because, it shows the game has flaws.

lol a game can have plenty of flaws even when the consensus is that the game is the epitome of awesome

see Half Life 2
-Great story telling, meh story
-Weak gun play
-weak puzzles
-poor vehicle sections

see Super Mario Galaxy
-The rosaline story feels like it tried too hard
- way too easy at times
- some contrived uses of motion controls
- random moments where the camera isn't up to snuff
- weak boss sections

or your current favorite Mass Effect 2
- Stiff movement for shephard, and a gunplay that isn't in the same league as a Gears or Uncharted
- Bad level design. It's far too gamey looking for a game that is trying soo hard to be immersive
- planet scanning is far too tedius, and the lack of exploration of all the planets makes it feel like Bioware pulled punches
- The choice/consequence connection between predecessor and sequel don't really mean all that much to the overall experience, and just seem there for the flash of having a connection. With only the final scenario really showing any real result for making the wrong decisions, but even then it's not as difficult to survive as a so called suicide mission.

Now the degree of how much of a flaw each of those are is depending on the person, and all comes down to how well one is willing to argue for and or against each complaint/praise. A consensus of the opinion of reviewers? or the wannabee pretentious gamer community? or the gaming hipsters? isn't worth much more than the opinion of the mass casual audience that enjoyed it. It's just an opinion of a select group, but it says nothing more than that select group enjoyed it.

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#37 oldkingallant
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

Overrated: God of War III

Its between Heavy Rain, GOW III, FFXIII,or Halo Reach...but whileHeavy Rain was aworthy effort despite its flaws, its GOW III that is the benifit of overhype. This game was an epic disappointment, especially in the story telling department. While the first game had a servicable story, the second one sucked, but this is dog turd. This series devolved into basically testostrone torture porn for teenage boys in which Kratos not only has to kill his enemies, but torture them as brutally as possible...because its cool. Also, any substance this game was supposed to have..fell flat...with a terrible ending. The gameplay is also shallow and repetitve, with only the bosses that stand out, until the very disappointing final battle. Gamecritics everwhere rode the hype train to overhype with this game...giving the game a pass in its many flaws. not seeing it as the average action game it is.

Underrated: Metro 2033

This game is an underrated gem, especially now with the Ranger Pack. Really, evolution from Bioshock, the levels are widely varied in gameplay. Each stage has something different to offer, different enemies, setups, and situations. Many stages have multiple ways to complete them, especially the stages with human enemies. Most of these stages can be completed without killing anyone and in two stages, its an achievement. The Front Line stages deserves special mention. The guns are pretty awesome, especially the Helsing and the VNV with a scope. The Heavy Auto Shotgun, a DLC gun, levels enemies in seconds. The story is excellent and thought provoking, questioning whether humans are worse monsters than the "threat" Arytom faces. Choices also play a big role which impact the ending. A game that should have scored a 90 on Metacritic.

HelloMoto56

weren't you the same guy that claimed Castlevania: Lords of Shadows will "destroy" God of War 3 and it ended up scoring a 7.5 on here?

:lol: Sounds like someone here is a butthurt Castlevania fan taking their anger out on Kratos for kicking too much ass. By the way rockin that quote in the sig there, do I get to claim ownage on you when LBP2 doesn't get a 10 or over a 97 on MC or do you only get ownage on me if it does... what am I saying it won't :P.
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#38 vashkey
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What difference does there being two sides make when one side may be full of fanboys, haters and trolls? This is the internet. It's better to just analyze something and determine what may make it bad or good with valid reasoning than to just take in the broad and rarely comprehensive opinions of random people on the internet who need little reason to like or dislike something.

For example, alot of DBZ fans seem to judge how good the Dragon Ball games are based largely on how big the character rosters are. Do you honestly think that should be the deciding factor of how good a game is?

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#39 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="HelloMoto56"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] And it would still be a meaningless comment in a debate to be quite honest. Who gives a **** which version the fans like more? Argue what it does right, what it does wrong, what it does better/worse(felt like shoe horning in my own comments). Personally both your point, and the argument of bringing up reviews is weak. If you're going to call something overrated/underrated or disagree with someone else's thoughts on why you think their comments are wrong...argue the points. A consensus of opinions, the written opinion of someone else, and all that crap isn't even worth mentioning. Though liking Invisible Wars over Deus Ex isn't even an opinion. It's bad taste. oldkingallant

a consensus of opinions is a point...as you see, divided opinions usally come from flaws and in different levels of frusteration caused by them. This is a valid point to use in an argument. Why? Because, it shows the game has flaws.

lol a game can have plenty of flaws even when the consensus is that the game is the epitome of awesome

see Half Life 2
-Great story telling, meh story
-Weak gun play
-weak puzzles
-poor vehicle sections

see Super Mario Galaxy
-The rosaline story feels like it tried too hard
- way too easy at times
- some contrived uses of motion controls
- random moments where the camera isn't up to snuff
- weak boss sections

or your current favorite Mass Effect 2
- Stiff movement for shephard, and a gunplay that isn't in the same league as a Gears or Uncharted
- Bad level design. It's far too gamey looking for a game that is trying soo hard to be immersive
- planet scanning is far too tedius, and the lack of exploration of all the planets makes it feel like Bioware pulled punches
- The choice/consequence connection between predecessor and sequel don't really mean all that much to the overall experience, and just seem there for the flash of having a connection. With only the final scenario really showing any real result for making the wrong decisions, but even then it's not as difficult to survive as a so called suicide mission.

Now the degree of how much of a flaw each of those are is depending on the person, and all comes down to how well one is willing to argue for and or against each complaint/praise. A consensus of the opinion of reviewers? or the wannabee pretentious gamer community? or the gaming hipsters? isn't worth much more than the opinion of the mass casual audience that enjoyed it. It's just an opinion of a select group, but it says nothing more than that select group enjoyed it.

and these flaws don't mean much because they are either accepted by most if not all the fans, or very weak. Take for instance, Planescape Torment's combat...it is flawed, bu tthats not where the focus of the game is. Back to GOW III, repitive combat and short campaign....well thats where most of the focus is. Or the first Assassin's Creed's investigations sections, takes up a large chunk of the game. While ME2 does divide, most of the division is whether or not ME2 is an RPG. The planet scanning however, is an accepted flaw...so much that Bioware patched it to make it go faster. Consensus of opinions important there....oh yeah...a way that designers improve their games is to figure out what works and what doesn't. Consenus of opinions is important.

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#40 jg4xchamp
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What difference does there being two sides make when one side may be full of fanboys, haters and trolls? This is the internet. It's better to just analyze something and determine what may make it bad or good with valid reasoning than to just take in the broad and rarely comprehensive opinions of random people on the internet who need little reason to like or dislike something.

For example, alot of DBZ fans seem to judge how good the Dragon Ball games are based largely on how big the character rosters are. Do you honestly think that should be the deciding factor of how good a game is?

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#41 oldkingallant
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[QUOTE="vashkey"]

What difference does there being two sides make when one side may be full of fanboys, haters and trolls? This is the internet. It's better to just analyze something and determine what may make it bad or good with valid reasoning than to just take in the broad and rarely comprehensive opinions of random people on the internet who need little reason to like or dislike something.

For example, alot of DBZ fans seem to judge how good the Dragon Ball games are based largely on how big the character rosters are. Do you honestly think that should be the deciding factor of how good a game is?

jg4xchamp
I will not touch a fighting game if it does not have 40 plus characters. Serious yo, serious.

O rly? Let's see your serious face.
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#42 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="oldkingallant"][QUOTE="HelloMoto56"] a consensus of opinions is a point...as you see, divided opinions usally come from flaws and in different levels of frusteration caused by them. This is a valid point to use in an argument. Why? Because, it shows the game has flaws.texasgoldrush

lol a game can have plenty of flaws even when the consensus is that the game is the epitome of awesome

see Half Life 2
-Great story telling, meh story
-Weak gun play
-weak puzzles
-poor vehicle sections

see Super Mario Galaxy
-The rosaline story feels like it tried too hard
- way too easy at times
- some contrived uses of motion controls
- random moments where the camera isn't up to snuff
- weak boss sections

or your current favorite Mass Effect 2
- Stiff movement for shephard, and a gunplay that isn't in the same league as a Gears or Uncharted
- Bad level design. It's far too gamey looking for a game that is trying soo hard to be immersive
- planet scanning is far too tedius, and the lack of exploration of all the planets makes it feel like Bioware pulled punches
- The choice/consequence connection between predecessor and sequel don't really mean all that much to the overall experience, and just seem there for the flash of having a connection. With only the final scenario really showing any real result for making the wrong decisions, but even then it's not as difficult to survive as a so called suicide mission.

Now the degree of how much of a flaw each of those are is depending on the person, and all comes down to how well one is willing to argue for and or against each complaint/praise. A consensus of the opinion of reviewers? or the wannabee pretentious gamer community? or the gaming hipsters? isn't worth much more than the opinion of the mass casual audience that enjoyed it. It's just an opinion of a select group, but it says nothing more than that select group enjoyed it.

and these flaws don't mean much because they are either accepted by most if not all the fans, or very weak. Take for instance, Planescape Torment's combat...it is flawed, bu tthats not where the focus of the game is. Back to GOW III, repitive combat and short campaign....well thats where most of the focus is. Or the first Assassin's Creed's investigations sections, takes up a large chunk of the game. While ME2 does divide, most of the division is whether or not ME2 is an RPG. The planet scanning however, is an accepted flaw...so much that Bioware patched it to make it go faster. Consensus of opinions important there....oh yeah...a way that designers improve their games is to figure out what works and what doesn't. Consenus of opinions is important.

Except in Half Life 2 and Mass Effect 2s case that is where a large focus is. The actual action of the game. The majority of your play experience. Sure it has a presentation to back it up, but the presentation should not have to carry weak game mechanics. They should compliment each other instead. In the case of Mario Galaxy, all the major levels end with an uninspired boss battle and for plenty of people it can suck the excitement out of the game at times(Not for me at least), and it being too easy is perfectly legit when something like Yoshi's Island and Super Mario World while not incredibly challenging were still far more satisfying(in the same franchise no less).

God of War 3s combat can be many things(simplistic for one), but repetitive? You are constantly being thrown new scenarios to use the combat, newer enemies, with their own different characteristic. What makes God of War 3 any more repetitive in its action than any other game? It's plenty varied, and as a game it's paced exceptionally well between its combat, platforming, and puzzle mechanics. Is it a weaker game at its core compared to the genre? Sure NGB, Bayonetta, and Devil May Cry 3 SMOKE IT when it comes to combat, and all but obliterate it in the pure action department. As far as length I think that is as one of the biggest weak complaints anyone can really use. I don't want 15 hours of gameplay because of padded scenarios when I could have just gotten 7 hours of tight pacing instead.

Consensus of opinion is important to an extent, but it is by no stretch of the imagination indicative of quality. If it was? Then congrats God of War 3 is not overrated. AAA average CONSENSUS from the critics, over 2 million in sales(so it was a popular pick up), and even user averages for the game are usually over 8(I believe they are in the 9s on this site?). Going on a tangent of the importance of consensus, and then disagreeing with the consensus as a valid claim to fame for one game is down right hypocritical.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="vashkey"]

What difference does there being two sides make when one side may be full of fanboys, haters and trolls? This is the internet. It's better to just analyze something and determine what may make it bad or good with valid reasoning than to just take in the broad and rarely comprehensive opinions of random people on the internet who need little reason to like or dislike something.

For example, alot of DBZ fans seem to judge how good the Dragon Ball games are based largely on how big the character rosters are. Do you honestly think that should be the deciding factor of how good a game is?

oldkingallant

I will not touch a fighting game if it does not have 40 plus characters. Serious yo, serious.

O rly? Let's see your serious face.







So serious.

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So far I'm thinking Resonance of Fate is pretty underrated considering it gained almost no notoriety here post release.

Oh and FFXIII is underrated.

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Overrated: Bayonetta, SMG2, Red Steel 2 - all games i'd rate 7/10 due to their respective flaws.

Underrated: Nothing I can think of this year. Sengoku Basara might be coming from a strong demo impression and press' ho-hum response to the previews....

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Overrated: Metroid: Other M

Good game, but I didn't get into the story much.

Underrated: Alpha Protocol

It is glitchy as hell, but once I got into it I found the combat more tolerable and the story and characters very engrossing.

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Overatted:Starcraft 2

Underatted: Tatsunoko vs Capcom

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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

Overrated: God of War III

Its between Heavy Rain, GOW III, FFXIII,or Halo Reach...but whileHeavy Rain was aworthy effort despite its flaws, its GOW III that is the benifit of overhype. This game was an epic disappointment, especially in the story telling department. While the first game had a servicable story, the second one sucked, but this is dog turd. This series devolved into basically testostrone torture porn for teenage boys in which Kratos not only has to kill his enemies, but torture them as brutally as possible...because its cool. Also, any substance this game was supposed to have..fell flat...with a terrible ending. The gameplay is also shallow and repetitve, with only the bosses that stand out, until the very disappointing final battle. Gamecritics everwhere rode the hype train to overhype with this game...giving the game a pass in its many flaws. not seeing it as the average action game it is.

Underrated: Metro 2033

This game is an underrated gem, especially now with the Ranger Pack. Really, evolution from Bioshock, the levels are widely varied in gameplay. Each stage has something different to offer, different enemies, setups, and situations. Many stages have multiple ways to complete them, especially the stages with human enemies. Most of these stages can be completed without killing anyone and in two stages, its an achievement. The Front Line stages deserves special mention. The guns are pretty awesome, especially the Helsing and the VNV with a scope. The Heavy Auto Shotgun, a DLC gun, levels enemies in seconds. The story is excellent and thought provoking, questioning whether humans are worse monsters than the "threat" Arytom faces. Choices also play a big role which impact the ending. A game that should have scored a 90 on Metacritic.

rawr89

says the guy that said Castlevania will destroy GoW3.

anyways,

overrated: Red Dead Redemption.

that game was a borefest. you can hunt? bleh. there's only so much animals in that world. the weapons are so-so. story was slow. graphics weren't great (sure, since it's an open-world game. but it still sucks). the first few hours were good. but once you get into Mexico 'til Blackwater while completing challenges and stranger missions, it gets totally boring. collect these or hunt these, etc. *barfs*. where's the 200+ random events? all i see was a lady asking for help then suddenly exposing bandits tying to rob me. or a man/woman getting chased by wolves. psh. Multiplayer was totally crappy. first off, the lobby system sucks. i wanna get into a game but everytime i go into free roam there's only me or one other person. how can i even get to a game if there's only 1 person in my lobby?

underrated: (in Gamespot scores) Heavy Rain and Castlevania

playing Heavy Rain on Hard Mode was so kickass. especcialy if you're trying to have all 4 alive 'til the very end.

from the looks of it, Castlevania is considered a great game if it didn't have 'Castlevania' on the title. i would've loved if game 'journalists' :lol: reviewed the game for what it is instead of what they wanted it to be.

can u get out of my mind!!! i was gonna say the same things as u :( lol red dead is EXTREMELY overrated as mentioned it was such a borefest that i spent a huge amount of time playing poker then i did the random encounters and story missions... it probably got the 9.5 cause of the content it has but i have some news flash for everyone... more content doesnt necessarily mean better. Castlevania though i havnt played it...yet does not look like a 7.5 game. the cinematics look nice and the monsters / titans look pretty decent , i mean how on earth does something like prototype gets 8.5 and this gets 7.5 AGAIN i havnt played it but it looks way better then prototype (which i have)
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#49 mo0ksi
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Overrated: Alan Wake

Good game, but it got some free passes for a lot of idiotic design choices, to to mention its repetition and flimsy controls. Whoever thought it was a good idea to pan the camera out whenever enemies are coming, completely destroying tension, shouldn't be shot. Just never let him work with anything suspense-related.

Underrated: Blur

Shame this got little attention. It was a very fun arcade racer that built upon the Mario Kart formula.

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Overrated: Random high profile release A.

Underrated: Random high profile release B.

There are quite a few going points in this thread, but frankly nothing I've seen suggests a change in the score for any game. Your personal opinion for a game isn't enough justification.