So much for the superior attach rate and bigger installed base:|,when the only thing which the BIGGER installed base knows is shooters:lol:.
Well seriously it's these things which count the most as far as third party support is concerned.
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So much for the superior attach rate and bigger installed base:|,when the only thing which the BIGGER installed base knows is shooters:lol:.
Well seriously it's these things which count the most as far as third party support is concerned.
It probally outsold because there are no other good games to buy for the consoleCaveman626
Agreed. I could sell a million packs of raman noodles in etheopia and all it would prove is how hungry those people really are. Kinda like cows and ps3 games.
[QUOTE="Caveman626"]It probally outsold because there are no other good games to buy for the consolesnoz_dawg
i second that. compare motorstorm and pgr3 and you are owned bigtime
I third that
:| Motorstorm was out months before both Forza 2 and DiRT, bud.BioShockOwnzYa but games dont normally sell that much after 2 months of release so i dont think that forza 2 would get that many more sales.And besides gran turismo gets more preorders than what forza sells.My point is that we only see shooters as multi million sellers on the xbox like gears and halo.A game like forza deserves to sell multi millions let alone getting beaten by a single million seller in motorstorm.
Forza 2:
http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6076
Motorstorm:
http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=3850
Note: Motorstorm has been 6 months in japan, and 3 months in us and europe longer than Forza 2
U failed.
[QUOTE="snoz_dawg"][QUOTE="Caveman626"]It probally outsold because there are no other good games to buy for the consolehalogta9890
i second that. compare motorstorm and pgr3 and you are owned bigtime
I third that
Sorry you all are in denial.I mean it's not that the 360 is filled with quality racers like forza 2 left and right:|.Anyways keep enjoying your shooter box.
[QUOTE="halogta9890"][QUOTE="snoz_dawg"][QUOTE="Caveman626"]It probally outsold because there are no other good games to buy for the consolemusacircuit
i second that. compare motorstorm and pgr3 and you are owned bigtime
I third that
Sorry you all are in denial.I mean it's not that the 360 is filled with quality racers like forza 2 left and right:|.Anyways keep enjoying your shooter box.
Oh im sure i will keep enjoying my 360. Have fun continuing to wait for games on your blu ray player.
[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]wait WTF??
forza 2 - 1.01 million copies
Motorstorm - .98 million copies
Are cows having trouble figuring out which one is the bigger number?
Marka1700
Ownage approved.
VGcharts is ownage? Since when? Someone get some NPD figures. It would have helped if the TC would have done that.
Forza 2:
http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6076
Motorstorm:
http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=3850
Note: Motorstorm has been 6 months in japan, and 3 months in us and europe longer than Forza 2
U failed.
killaj2786
Actually Forza 2 has been out since January 1, 1986 according to that link. Haha.
[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"]wait WTF??
forza 2 - 1.01 million copies
Motorstorm - .98 million copies
Are cows having trouble figuring out which one is the bigger number?
Redfingers
Ownage approved.
VGcharts is ownage? Since when? Someone get some NPD figures. It would have helped if the TC would have done that.
cows dont like vgchart no more?"He mentioned MotorStorm sold 1 million units"wait WTF??
forza 2 - 1.01 million copies
Motorstorm - .98 million copies
Are cows having trouble figuring out which one is the bigger number?
jrhawk42
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6174036.html
Well as a result of this i didnt even bother to look at the link you provided.
[QUOTE="killaj2786"]Forza 2:
http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6076
Motorstorm:
http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=3850
Note: Motorstorm has been 6 months in japan, and 3 months in us and europe longer than Forza 2
U failed.
Sedin44
Actually Forza 2 has been out since January 1, 1986 according to that link. Haha.
Its seems pretty accurate tho if u look at the weekly american charts...
[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"]wait WTF??
forza 2 - 1.01 million copies
Motorstorm - .98 million copies
Are cows having trouble figuring out which one is the bigger number?
Redfingers
Ownage approved.
VGcharts is ownage? Since when? Someone get some NPD figures. It would have helped if the TC would have done that.
didnt cows use this for ownage the pass two weeks "Oh teh PS3 beating the 360!!!"
[QUOTE="snoz_dawg"][QUOTE="Caveman626"]It probally outsold because there are no other good games to buy for the consolehalogta9890
i second that. compare motorstorm and pgr3 and you are owned bigtime
I third that
i 4th that,no wonder "the waiting game" is the best selling game this gen
[QUOTE="halogta9890"][QUOTE="snoz_dawg"][QUOTE="Caveman626"]It probally outsold because there are no other good games to buy for the consolemusacircuit
i second that. compare motorstorm and pgr3 and you are owned bigtime
I third that
Sorry you all are in denial.I mean it's not that the 360 is filled with quality racers like forza 2 left and right:|.
Anyways keep enjoying your shooter box.
arn't the 3 most hyped ps3 titles shooter. Killzone 2, R:FoM and MGS IV are shooters right. so enjoy ur pshooter3
[QUOTE="Marka1700"]Motorstorm was out long before these games, Bad comparison.musacircuitBu bu bu butteh bigger installed base.:cry:
dude you have been owned multiple times in this thread. just give up and go back to whichever meadow you came from. MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[QUOTE="Marka1700"]Motorstorm was out long before these games, Bad comparison.musacircuitBu bu bu butteh bigger installed base.:cry:
butt butt the 6 million units....and the fact that i posted those numbers pretty much shows how much faster Forza(7 weeks) sold a million than motorstorm( 6 months JPn/ 3 months US/Europe) even if it did make a million like sony says...
basically ur thread failed and u just cant admit it :P
VG charts is always sooo wrong...if i had a dollar for every game they got wrong in sales...Motorstorm sold over a million copies month back...but personally i dont care which sells more or not...wait WTF??
forza 2 - 1.01 million copies
Motorstorm - .98 million copies
Are cows having trouble figuring out which one is the bigger number?
jrhawk42
[QUOTE="Redfingers"][QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"]wait WTF??
forza 2 - 1.01 million copies
Motorstorm - .98 million copies
Are cows having trouble figuring out which one is the bigger number?
wiistation360
Ownage approved.
VGcharts is ownage? Since when? Someone get some NPD figures. It would have helped if the TC would have done that.
cows dont like vgchart no more?"He mentioned MotorStorm sold 1 million units"
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6174036.html
Ownage disapproved.Try again.:lol:
[QUOTE="Redfingers"][QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"]wait WTF??
forza 2 - 1.01 million copies
Motorstorm - .98 million copies
Are cows having trouble figuring out which one is the bigger number?
wiistation360
Ownage approved.
VGcharts is ownage? Since when? Someone get some NPD figures. It would have helped if the TC would have done that.
cows dont like vgchart no more?I'm not a cow. I simply like legitimacy.
Ownage not warranted.
Bu bu bu butteh bigger installed base.:cry:[QUOTE="musacircuit"][QUOTE="Marka1700"]Motorstorm was out long before these games, Bad comparison.killaj2786
butt butt the 6 million units....and the fact that i posted those numbers pretty much shows how much faster Forza(7 weeks) sold a million than motorstorm( 6 months JPn/ 3 months US/Europe) even if it did make a million like sony says...
basically ur thread failed and u just cant admit it :P
No the point of this thread is to basically show that a high quality AAA non-shooter game cant sell multi millions on the xbox.I mean forza and gran turismo are pretty much on par but gran turismo has more preorders than forza sales:lol: which just goes to show the fate of the shooter box.Motorstorm is not on par with forza as far as greatness is concerned but it still is on par with it in sales against a system with a 3x bigger user base.And dont forget that forza is a better game than motorstorm so it should outsell it easily on a bugger installed base but it doesnt.
didnt cows use this for ownage the pass two weeks "Oh teh PS3 beating the 360!!!"
killaj2786
Okay. I am not cows, first of all, and I've never used VGCharts as a legitimate source of information. So what point against me are you trying to make? That both factions can be stupid, do stupid things?
I absolutely agree, which is why I think ownage cannot be warranted based on VGcharts. Though I appreciate how you throw me into a faction just to dispute my logic based off what you saw somebody who you also place in that faction do. Have you ever heard of a strawman fallacy?
[QUOTE="killaj2786"]didnt cows use this for ownage the pass two weeks "Oh teh PS3 beating the 360!!!"
Redfingers
Okay. I am not cows, first of all, and I've never used VGCharts as a legitimate source of information. So what point against me are you trying to make? That both factions can be stupid, do stupid things?
I absolutely agree, which is why I think ownage cannot be warranted based on VGcharts. Though I appreciate how you throw me into a faction just to dispute my logic based off what you saw somebody who you also place in that faction did. Have you ever heard of a strawman fallacy?
Drop the act RedFingers. You are INDEED a cow. If not a cow, you are a Cow/Sheep. You always find some way to back up PS3 and never the 360. That makes you a cow.
So much for the superior attach rate and bigger installed base:|,when the only thing which the BIGGER installed base knows is shooters:lol:.
Well seriously it's these things which count the most as far as third party support is concerned.
musacircuit
As has been mentioned, Motorstorm launched in Japan in December and in EU+US in March. 4-7 months before Forza 2. Plus there's more competition in this genre on the 360. There's more competition on the 360 period. And finally, do you know Forza 2's sales numbers? Would be kinda silly to claim it has been outsold by Motorstorm if you didn't, no?
All I could find is that it sold 217k copies during May. Which would be 217k copies in three days. In the US market alone.
[QUOTE="killaj2786"]didnt cows use this for ownage the pass two weeks "Oh teh PS3 beating the 360!!!"
Redfingers
Okay. I am not cows, first of all, and I've never used VGCharts as a legitimate source of information. So what point against me are you trying to make? That both factions can be stupid, do stupid things?
I absolutely agree, which is why I think ownage cannot be warranted based on VGcharts. Though I appreciate how you throw me into a faction just to dispute my logic based off what you saw somebody who you also place in that faction did. Have you ever heard of a strawman fallacy?
The red rings icon made me think that...my bad....
and yes I think VGchartz is a bad source but at the same time I'm pretty sure Forza 2 has sold more than a million units, being so popular in europe as well as the U.S.
[QUOTE="killaj2786"]Bu bu bu butteh bigger installed base.:cry:[QUOTE="musacircuit"][QUOTE="Marka1700"]Motorstorm was out long before these games, Bad comparison.musacircuit
butt butt the 6 million units....and the fact that i posted those numbers pretty much shows how much faster Forza(7 weeks) sold a million than motorstorm( 6 months JPn/ 3 months US/Europe) even if it did make a million like sony says...
basically ur thread failed and u just cant admit it :P
No the point of this thread is to basically show that a high quality AAA non-shooter game cant sell multi millions on the xbox.I mean forza and gran turismo are pretty much on par but gran turismo has more preorders than forza sales:lol: which just goes to show the fate of the shooter box.Motorstorm is not on par with forza as far as greatness is concerned but it still is on par with it in sales against a system with a 3x bigger user base.And dont forget that forza is a better game than motorstorm so it should outsell it easily on a bugger installed base but it doesnt.
the game has been out only 7 weeks....motorstorm took 3 months/ 6months to get a million...so i kinda debunked everything u just said.
Take ur fanboy mind outta the gutter...the only reason GT4 sold 6 million a couple of years ago is cuz it had a 100 million+ userbase....which is 6%....forza has already sold a 1 million on a 11 million userbase....that's near 10%...I see success already....
Btw, ps3 users diddnt have much to play with which is proably the reason why it sold so much.
217k copies in May(3 DAYS) - http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=14341
197k copies in June - http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=536912
414k copies in 38 days. Let me remind you, that's just the US alone. Forza 2 sales>Motorstorm sales in the same time frames.
Ya but games dont normally sell that much after 2 months of release so i dont think that forza 2 would get that many more sales.And besides gran turismo gets more preorders than what forza sells.My point is that we only see shooters as multi million sellers on the xbox like gears and halo.A game like forza deserves to sell multi millions let alone getting beaten by a single million seller in motorstorm.[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:| Motorstorm was out months before both Forza 2 and DiRT, bud.musacircuit
alot of 360 owners are noobs, they like NeedforSpeed, not Forza.
[QUOTE="Redfingers"][QUOTE="killaj2786"]didnt cows use this for ownage the pass two weeks "Oh teh PS3 beating the 360!!!"
killaj2786
Okay. I am not cows, first of all, and I've never used VGCharts as a legitimate source of information. So what point against me are you trying to make? That both factions can be stupid, do stupid things?
I absolutely agree, which is why I think ownage cannot be warranted based on VGcharts. Though I appreciate how you throw me into a faction just to dispute my logic based off what you saw somebody who you also place in that faction did. Have you ever heard of a strawman fallacy?
The red rings icon made me think that...my bad....
and yes I think VGchartz is a bad source but at the same time I'm pretty sure Forza 2 has sold more than a million units, being so popular in europe as well as the U.S.
[QUOTE="killaj2786"]Bu bu bu butteh bigger installed base.:cry:[QUOTE="musacircuit"][QUOTE="Marka1700"]Motorstorm was out long before these games, Bad comparison.musacircuit
butt butt the 6 million units....and the fact that i posted those numbers pretty much shows how much faster Forza(7 weeks) sold a million than motorstorm( 6 months JPn/ 3 months US/Europe) even if it did make a million like sony says...
basically ur thread failed and u just cant admit it :P
No the point of this thread is to basically show that a high quality AAA non-shooter game cant sell multi millions on the xbox.I mean forza and gran turismo are pretty much on par but gran turismo has more preorders than forza sales:lol: which just goes to show the fate of the shooter box.Motorstorm is not on par with forza as far as greatness is concerned but it still is on par with it in sales against a system with a 3x bigger user base.And dont forget that forza is a better game than motorstorm so it should outsell it easily on a bugger installed base but it doesnt.
the game has been out only 7 weeks....motorstorm took 3 months/ 6months to get a million...so i kinda debunked everything u just said.
Take ur fanboy mind outta the gutter...the only reason GT4 sold 6 million a couple of years ago is cuz it had a 100 million+ userbase....which is 6%....forza has already sold a 1 million on a 11 million userbase....that's near 10%...I see success already....
Btw, ps3 users diddnt have much to play with which is proably the reason why it sold so much.
Well actually gran turismo has always sold 10 million.I wonder why you didnt mention the motorstorm to ps3 sold percentage cuz that would have just shown how pathetic that argument was.
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