MP games should not have RESPAWN times!!!!

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#1 IW-Designer
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The amount of time i spend respawning is the time spent me not pwning !!! Seriously, in COD4 im always #1 or at least top 3 in any match. However, MY k/d ratio is atrocious, yes i die almost as much as a pwn, but guess wat were not ranked on that !!!! were ranked in game by how many kills we get. So it disgusts me that i gotta wait 5 seconds to get bak in the game. Im a spastic shooter, my tactical measures of very small if any so i do die alot. This is why, IMO, besides halo 3, COD4 is so popular, its instant action. In real war your K/d ratio is not wat matters, its how many combatants you take out to contribute to the overall fight. ALSO, IMPORTANT, if yout kills per minute or w.e in a match is high, then you should be rewarded by lower respawn times dont you guys think thats fair? If you suck then you can wait to get into a match because your not contributing to overall victory. But if u are getting alot of kills then ur respawn time should be less cause ur survival is vital to the team. No wonder COD4 is such a great game, lets take a moment to bask in the glory of activision.
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#2 shoryuken_
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The only real solution to this problem is to be like me and not die at all.

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#3 punkrocker163
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There should be a long respawn time, you should be punished for dieing, not just automatically respawn as if nothing happened.
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#4 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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Instant respawn in games like Team Fortress 2 turn the map into a stalemate where no one can push on the objectives and win. No thank you.

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#5 jjmorris81
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I just don't like respawning next to enemies or a tank like Battlefield 1943 :-(
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#6 SgtPLHCB
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Instant respawn in games like Team Fortress 2 turn the map into a stalemate where no one can push on the objectives and win. No thank you.

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Yep. You would NEVER get the last control point.

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#7 ChiSoxBombers
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There should always be punishment for death, and a 5 second respawn delay suffices.

The best players spend twice as much time "pwning" then they do dying...maybe you should work on improving and you wont be complaining

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Oh man op your logic makes sense :| So you want to respawn more because you die so often that you need faster respawns... well that doesn't help your team very much does it if your k/d ratio is so low. Oh and pwn in COD4 ಠ_ಠ
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#9 SparkyProtocol
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It all depends on the game and/or gametype. It is like saying shooters should not have motion sensors. It all depends.
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#10 NAPK1NS
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"In real war your K/d ratio is not wat matters, its how many combatants you take out to contribute to the overall fight." In real war there ARE no respawns. :|
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#11 gameofthering
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Should be like Counter Strike... you dead? Tough! You will wait till next round.

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#12 SoNin360
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5 seconds is nothing.. I am just fine with 5 seconds.
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#13 Trinners
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Should be like Counter Strike... you dead? Tough! You will wait till next round.

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Exactly, it forces players to get better by being more cautious and strategic as well as making every shot count.

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#14 jjmorris81
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There should always be punishment for death, and a 5 second respawn delay suffices.

The best players spend twice as much time "pwning" then they do dying...maybe you should work on improving and you wont be complaining

ChiSoxBombers
I would agree I get owned alot in shooter games I'm still practicing the aiming and strafing I'm getting a little better it's a bit to get used to I id not get into shooters till Fear 2 and KZ2 so if you got some tips shoot em my way
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#15 jyoung312
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No thank. Respawn times allow you to collect yourself and gear up to go at it again. Plus you and your team should be punished for dying. Games would become greater stalemates as you can just rush back to the fight and no one team will have gained anything. Sure no respawn time works in a game like UT3 bc that game is all about being a constant twitch fest but in a game where you are fighting over objectives and need some strategy and team work then no respawn times would make it a giant clusterfrack. I mean really you only have to wait like 10 seconds

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#16 scar-hawk
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In real war your K/d ratio is not wat matters IW-Designer
Of course it doesn't, one "death" and you're dead. And I like respawn times. Nothing over 10 seconds though. I don't like being shot as soon as I spawn because of the instant respawns.
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In real war your K/d ratio is not wat matters, its how many combatants you take out to contribute to the overall fight. IW-Designer
Exactly. I have 3 real deaths and it didn't matter at all.
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#18 jyoung312
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Tip one: Don't stand still.

Tip two: reload after each kill unless you are surrounded and still firing and in that case switch weapon to pistol bc that takes less time than reloading

Tip three: aim for the head.

Tip four: learn to circle strafe, i.e. keep aim on one spot, while strafing around

Tip five: know your maps. KZ2 has pretty intricate maps that provide multiple avenues of attack so there is usually another way that the enemy can get you.

Tip 6: know your weapons. don't try to kill someone with a shotty when they are far away

Tip 7: cook your nades so that they dont have time to get away from them once they land

Tip 8: use short burst otherwise recoil will mess with your aim

Tip 9: aim down the sights whenever you can.

Tip 10: in kz2 crouch when you can to take your shots. sprint when moving in the open. melee in tight combat

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#19 bigblunt537
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I actually hate respawning all together. This is the biggest reason why I used to love Counter Strike. I think it's more tactical to go out and kill the entire other team. It's also a lot more satisfying. This also made me VERY disappointed when they took it out of Rainbow Six Vegas 2.

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[QUOTE="IW-Designer"] In real war your K/d ratio is not wat matters scar-hawk
Of course it doesn't, one "death" and you're dead. And I like respawn times. Nothing over 10 seconds though. I don't like being shot as soon as I spawn because of the instant respawns.

Well I think if you accidently killed your self in the game and it isn't a game like Counter Strike then I think you should have a longer respawn time to punish yourself from killing yourself in the game. 10 seconds if you were killed by the other team and if your teammate killed you 5 seconds and they should instantly die and wait 30 seconds before respawning.

But I would prefer no respawns because then I can walk around waiting for the next round.

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#21 Pdiddy105
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You'd have to have a pretty bad case of ADHD (no offense intended) to not be able to wait 5 seconds to respawn in an online game.

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#22 aero250
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You can't be that good if you keep dying.
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#24 chaoz-king
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Should be like Counter Strike... you dead? Tough! You will wait till next round.

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Yeahh! Idk if its just me but I love this old school "one life per round" style game mode. IMO getting one life per round makes that life more meaning full and makes each kill more of a risk.
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#25 trasherhead
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The respawn time is there to keep the pacing of the game down. COD4 isn't run'n'gun like halo. And if you are playing it like that then I am not surprised that you die a lot. I am guessing that you play hardcore since there is a respawn timer? Its been so long since I've played the other modes that I don't remember. Either way, if you want instant run'n'gun go play that type of game. Cod4 is not that type of game.
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#26 trasherhead
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[QUOTE="Pdiddy105"]

You'd have to have a pretty bad case of ADHD (no offense intended) to not be able to wait 5 seconds to respawn in an online game.

IW-Designer
tbh, i take adhd medication, i dont have it, i just pretend to so my doc gives me the prescription, their great for studying and awesome for working out, u can pump iron for hours, pretty cool. OH and on another note, ur a beast in MP when on adhd medication, ur like super focused.

That would be the Ephedrine, and still you keep dying when you are super focused?
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The amount of time i spend respawning is the time spent me not pwning !!! Seriously, in COD4 im always #1 or at least top 3 in any match. However, MY k/d ratio is atrocious, yes i die almost as much as a pwn, but guess wat were not ranked on that !!!! were ranked in game by how many kills we get. So it disgusts me that i gotta wait 5 seconds to get bak in the game. Im a spastic shooter, my tactical measures of very small if any so i do die alot. This is why, IMO, besides halo 3, COD4 is so popular, its instant action. In real war your K/d ratio is not wat matters, its how many combatants you take out to contribute to the overall fight. ALSO, IMPORTANT, if yout kills per minute or w.e in a match is high, then you should be rewarded by lower respawn times dont you guys think thats fair? If you suck then you can wait to get into a match because your not contributing to overall victory. But if u are getting alot of kills then ur respawn time should be less cause ur survival is vital to the team. No wonder COD4 is such a great game, lets take a moment to bask in the glory of activision. IW-Designer
I dunno about you, but in real war, im pretty sure you're not meant to die at all!

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#28 IW-Designer
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The respawn time is there to keep the pacing of the game down. COD4 isn't run'n'gun like halo. And if you are playing it like that then I am not surprised that you die a lot. I am guessing that you play hardcore since there is a respawn timer? Its been so long since I've played the other modes that I don't remember. Either way, if you want instant run'n'gun go play that type of game. Cod4 is not that type of game.trasherhead
play me in any match, im always top ranked in a match even with my high death, the least i ever get in a round is like 20 kills, my awesomeness comes from me not staying still, im spastic as hell in a match.
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#29 IW-Designer
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[QUOTE="IW-Designer"][QUOTE="Pdiddy105"]

You'd have to have a pretty bad case of ADHD (no offense intended) to not be able to wait 5 seconds to respawn in an online game.

trasherhead
tbh, i take adhd medication, i dont have it, i just pretend to so my doc gives me the prescription, their great for studying and awesome for working out, u can pump iron for hours, pretty cool. OH and on another note, ur a beast in MP when on adhd medication, ur like super focused.

That would be the Ephedrine, and still you keep dying when you are super focused?

livin requires ducking and such, im no p*ssy, and my rank in a single match will prove im the best, its just that i die alot, and i dont care in cod4, but in other games its annoying. Play me in red faction, ill still be the top player in a match no doubt, but that 5 second spent respawning is 5 seconds i coulda went off with a higher kill.
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#30 qbell
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so if you killed 25 dudes but died 25 times the only thing you did was make the game end quicker. if you went 1 and 0 you did better
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#31 KGB32
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"pwning" such a immature word
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#32 tirralirra
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so if you killed 25 dudes but died 25 times the only thing you did was make the game end quicker. if you went 1 and 0 you did betterqbell
Thank you for your superior logic :) Oh and COD is a run 'n' gun unless you play hardcore. I only play hardcore on COD.
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#34 PoppaGamer
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The more the punishment for dieing there is, the more strategic and the more careful and the more skilled you have to be. So, I do not agree with you at all TC. In fact I think you're......... never mind. :roll:

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#35 Wasdie  Moderator
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It should be longer, fear of dying should increase.

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#36 Zythyl
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OP: Play 2fort in TF2 with an insta-respawn server. The game becomes broken and unwinnable.
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#37 imprezawrx500
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instant respan is bad, makes player not care for dying. l4d has it about right.
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#38 mayforcebeyou
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intsta respawn servers are good except the gaame is not optimised for it. mp games should be made with instarespawn in thougt. Makes it harder for noobs. waiting to respawn is boring
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#39 dkrustyklown
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How about we just don't have respawns at all. If you want to survive until the end of the match...then don't die. It's that simple. It's also far more realistic and makes winning a match all-the-more rewarding.

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#40 IW-Designer
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How about we just don't have respawns at all. If you want to survive until the end of the match...then don't die. It's that simple. It's also far more realistic and makes winning a match all-the-more rewarding.

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would suck for a game like cod4, itll take you way to long to rank up and get stuff lol it depends on the game i guess...
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#41 W1NGMAN-
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"In real war your K/d ratio is not wat matters, its how many combatants you take out to contribute to the overall fight." In real war there ARE no respawns. :|NAPK1NS

I knew someone would point that out :lol:

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#42 W1NGMAN-
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I would love to see the TC in a match of Elimination in Socom Confrontation :P

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#43 Flame-Eternal
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The only real solution to this problem is to be like me and not die at all.

shoryuken_
winner. that being said, the respawn system in CoD4 is incredibly cheap. the % of the time someone you just killed respawns near you is like...85%. pretty uninspired.
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#44 Flame-Eternal
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Instant respawn in games like Team Fortress 2 turn the map into a stalemate where no one can push on the objectives and win. No thank you.

Whiteblade999
blaspheming against Team Fortress 2? so not a good look. :) if you can't push the objectives, it's because your team had no teamwork or was unskilled; not because it was impossible to do.
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There should be a long respawn time, you should be punished for dieing, not just automatically respawn as if nothing happened.punkrocker163
thats just frustrating when you get killed cheaply
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So you want to spend more time in the game to "pwn" as much as you can? Then exercise every tactical measure you can to avoid dying! If you aren't putting forthought into your actions before you jump into the arena, then you should be penalized with delays that cost you opportunities to score kills. That's how you learn to plan your moves better, which is what deserves scoring points and victory.

You need to earn the right to have maximum playing time, it won't be handed to you just because you think you deserve it. It's a privelage, not a right.

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#47 Trinners
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[QUOTE="punkrocker163"]There should be a long respawn time, you should be punished for dieing, not just automatically respawn as if nothing happened.SilverChimera
thats just frustrating when you get killed cheaply

What do you mean by cheap? Sniping? Camping? Grenades?

If you die in an FPS it's your fault for not being careful.

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The amount of time i spend respawning is the time spent me not pwning !!! Seriously, in COD4 im always #1 or at least top 3 in any match. However, MY k/d ratio is atrocious, yes i die almost as much as a pwn, but guess wat were not ranked on that !!!! were ranked in game by how many kills we get. So it disgusts me that i gotta wait 5 seconds to get bak in the game. Im a spastic shooter, my tactical measures of very small if any so i do die alot. This is why, IMO, besides halo 3, COD4 is so popular, its instant action. In real war your K/d ratio is not wat matters, its how many combatants you take out to contribute to the overall fight. ALSO, IMPORTANT, if yout kills per minute or w.e in a match is high, then you should be rewarded by lower respawn times dont you guys think thats fair? If you suck then you can wait to get into a match because your not contributing to overall victory. But if u are getting alot of kills then ur respawn time should be less cause ur survival is vital to the team. No wonder COD4 is such a great game, lets take a moment to bask in the glory of activision. IW-Designer

Your absolutely right K/D isnt important because you can only die once seeing as your talking real life. Gonna take a pure pawnage quote here "I even heard theres no respawn in RL".

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#49 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Then don't die.
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[QUOTE="IW-Designer"]The amount of time i spend respawning is the time spent me not pwning !!! Seriously, in COD4 im always #1 or at least top 3 in any match. However, MY k/d ratio is atrocious, yes i die almost as much as a pwn, but guess wat were not ranked on that !!!! were ranked in game by how many kills we get. So it disgusts me that i gotta wait 5 seconds to get bak in the game. Im a spastic shooter, my tactical measures of very small if any so i do die alot. This is why, IMO, besides halo 3, COD4 is so popular, its instant action. In real war your K/d ratio is not wat matters, its how many combatants you take out to contribute to the overall fight. ALSO, IMPORTANT, if yout kills per minute or w.e in a match is high, then you should be rewarded by lower respawn times dont you guys think thats fair? If you suck then you can wait to get into a match because your not contributing to overall victory. But if u are getting alot of kills then ur respawn time should be less cause ur survival is vital to the team. No wonder COD4 is such a great game, lets take a moment to bask in the glory of activision.

im sure SW has just turned into one big ***** feast. people never used to complain and ***** this much.... or maybe they did