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#1  Edited By Brah4ever
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PS4/X1 $250 with a free game during the holidays.

Zelda sold 3 million on a console of 100m+ (The Wii) but apparently it's a big seller now? Interedasting.

The Switch will have an initial strong selling phase, usually the first month or so. The gotta have it now crowd. Once this ends the sales will slow down, look at the Wii U.

Guys like Charizard were hyping that thing up and mentioning how the sales slow down was just "temporary", we all know how that one turned out.

How delusional you Nintendo apologist are, is truly comical. The Switch is another flop waiting to happen.

Wii U Zelda was postponed but hey "Nintendo is da bestest". Only console to never receive an exclusive Zelda game.

The console will be plagued with the typical droughts and will live off ports in between key releases like Mario Odyssey.

Once the sales of 3rd party games flop, support will cease. Sounding like the Wii U now isn't it. Before you tell me, "how do you know it won't sell". Easy, just look at the history. You guys were like wait for Smash, wait for Kart 8, wait for whatever, and NOTHING CHANGED.

Wii U owners got burned hard, the system sucked and to everyone else who didn't buy it, it was for a reason. They don't trust Nintendo as Nintendo DOES NOT offer the games the casuals want.

A majority of these Switch games are most likely Wii U games which had their development switched over.

Sorry but, Skyrim (a 6 year old game that isn't even a launch title, LOL) aint gonna cut it.

MS/Sony have built consumer trust and offer multimedia/gaming features the consumer wants, Nintendo? They are now doing what everyone has been doing YEARS AGO.

Nintendo thinks people will actually hand over money for their online service when the only thing they've shown in the Online space is incompetence? Once again, LMAO.

MS and Sony drop the prices and its good game Switch, if it even makes it that far.

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Yeah the overall lineup is pretty disappointing, especially launch day lineup besides Zelda. Mario, Zelda, and Splatoon will sell a lot of units but there aren't any other big hitters besides those. 1, 2 Switch is a ripoff for $50, it should have been a bundled game or they could have just made a Zelda bundle instead.

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#3  Edited By Pedro
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I am confused. Isn't Charizard always right? :P

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#4 Brah4ever
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@bowserjr123 said:

Yeah the overall lineup is pretty disappointing, especially launch day lineup besides Zelda. Mario, Zelda, and Splatoon will sell a lot of units but there aren't any other big hitters besides those. 1, 2 Switch is a ripoff for $50, it should have been a bundled game or they could have just made a Zelda bundle instead.

1,2 Switch should've been this console Wii Sports, bundled in the box.

Wii Sports is literally why the Wii sold like hotcakes.

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#5  Edited By Brah4ever
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@Pedro said:

I am confused. Isn't Charizard always right? :P

He's been wrong numerous times, if I recall correctly, Charizard was the one saying Mario Kart 8 and Smash would turn things around with the Wii U.

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#6 bowserjr123
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@brah4ever said:
@bowserjr123 said:

Yeah the overall lineup is pretty disappointing, especially launch day lineup besides Zelda. Mario, Zelda, and Splatoon will sell a lot of units but there aren't any other big hitters besides those. 1, 2 Switch is a ripoff for $50, it should have been a bundled game or they could have just made a Zelda bundle instead.

1,2 Switch should've been this console Wii Sports, bundled in the box.

Wii Sports is literally why the Wii sold like hotcakes.

Yep exactly, but I think the game looks pretty bad though. They should have really just made a Zelda bundle, now that would have sold like hotcakes.

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#7 Brah4ever
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@bowserjr123 said:
@brah4ever said:
@bowserjr123 said:

Yeah the overall lineup is pretty disappointing, especially launch day lineup besides Zelda. Mario, Zelda, and Splatoon will sell a lot of units but there aren't any other big hitters besides those. 1, 2 Switch is a ripoff for $50, it should have been a bundled game or they could have just made a Zelda bundle instead.

1,2 Switch should've been this console Wii Sports, bundled in the box.

Wii Sports is literally why the Wii sold like hotcakes.

Yep exactly, but I think the game looks pretty bad though. They should have really just made a Zelda bundle, now that would have sold like hotcakes.

It does look pretty bad and if they bundled Zelda with every Switch that would be epic.

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I just don't understand why they made it a hybrid console, when they already dominate the handheld market. They need to make a powerful home console.

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#9 silversix_
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$300 for these kind of graphics
$300 for these kind of graphics

or

$250 for a console that can get you this AND has access to all third party
$250 for a console that can get you this AND has access to all third party

Tough choice.

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#10 Brah4ever
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@primorandomguy said:

I just don't understand why they made it a hybrid console, when they already dominate the handheld market. They need to make a powerful home console.

Nintendo does not think they can survive in a direct war against MS/Sony, realistically they probably can't.

Pretty much if The Switch flops (which it will), Nintendo will either go 100% mobile (think tablets/phones) or 3rd party.

They pulled out of the traditional home console market for good reason.

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#11 bowserjr123
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@brah4ever said:
@bowserjr123 said:
@brah4ever said:
@bowserjr123 said:

Yeah the overall lineup is pretty disappointing, especially launch day lineup besides Zelda. Mario, Zelda, and Splatoon will sell a lot of units but there aren't any other big hitters besides those. 1, 2 Switch is a ripoff for $50, it should have been a bundled game or they could have just made a Zelda bundle instead.

1,2 Switch should've been this console Wii Sports, bundled in the box.

Wii Sports is literally why the Wii sold like hotcakes.

Yep exactly, but I think the game looks pretty bad though. They should have really just made a Zelda bundle, now that would have sold like hotcakes.

It does look pretty bad and if they bundled Zelda with every Switch that would be epic.

Yep, definitely a missed opportunity on Nintendo's part there.

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#12 Brah4ever
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@silversix_ said:
$300 for these kind of graphics
$300 for these kind of graphics

or

$250 for a console that can get you this AND has access to all third party
$250 for a console that can get you this AND has access to all third party

Tough choice.

Zelda pic technically has more going, look at those splosions man.

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#13 Pedro
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@silversix_ said:

or

Tough choice.

Nope. Its rather easy. I will go for the one for $300.

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#14 Brah4ever
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@Pedro said:
@silversix_ said:

or

Tough choice.

Nope. Its rather easy. I will go for the one for $300.

Smart man

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#15 silversix_
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@brah4ever said:
@Pedro said:
@silversix_ said:

or

Tough choice.

Nope. Its rather easy. I will go for the one for $300.

Smart man

well, if he's smart, i want to be smart too. so i'm going with the 300 as well.

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#16  Edited By Brah4ever
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@silversix_ said:
@brah4ever said:
@Pedro said:
@silversix_ said:

or

Tough choice.

Nope. Its rather easy. I will go for the one for $300.

Smart man

well, if he's smart, i want to be smart too. so i'm going with the 300 as well.

So that's 2 new Switch buyers right here, things are already looking good for the Switch.

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@silversix_ said:
$300 for these kind of graphics
$300 for these kind of graphics

or

$250 for a console that can get you this AND has access to all third party
$250 for a console that can get you this AND has access to all third party

Tough choice.

Nintendo apparently practices the dark arts of self ownage lol

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#18 Primorandomguy
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@brah4ever: I get they probably can't directly compete, but why not more powerful hardware? Saying you can't compete isn't a good excuse to release such weak hardware.

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#19 xh117
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@bowserjr123 said:

Yeah the overall lineup is pretty disappointing, especially launch day lineup besides Zelda. Mario, Zelda, and Splatoon will sell a lot of units but there aren't any other big hitters besides those. 1, 2 Switch is a ripoff for $50, it should have been a bundled game or they could have just made a Zelda bundle instead.

Mario Kart and SMT should sell some units too then there will probably be a Monster Hunter around at some point that will really push sales.

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@xh117 said:
@bowserjr123 said:

Yeah the overall lineup is pretty disappointing, especially launch day lineup besides Zelda. Mario, Zelda, and Splatoon will sell a lot of units but there aren't any other big hitters besides those. 1, 2 Switch is a ripoff for $50, it should have been a bundled game or they could have just made a Zelda bundle instead.

Mario Kart and SMT should sell some units too then there will probably be a Monster Hunter around at some point that will really push sales.

Yeah, Mario Kart too I guess but the problem with it is that it's a port at full price but the good thing is that it finally has a solid battle mode which could entice a lot of people. I can see SMT being a hit in Japan but not much elsewhere. I'm guessing a Monster Hunter will be announced which will again be huge in Japan mainly.

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#21 iandizion713
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Once Pokemon, Mario, and Minecraft comes to Switch, game over baby.

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#22 Brah4ever
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Once Pokemon, Mario, and Minecraft comes to Switch, game over baby.

All three of those franchises exist on the Wii U and the console never broke 15 million.

Hmm...

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#23  Edited By iandizion713
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@brah4ever: We talking on the GO bro. On the TV, co-op out the box.

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#24 Brah4ever
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@brah4ever: We talking on the GO bro.

Yeah, because people want to carry another device on the go on top of their Iphones or Androids.

Once the novelty wheres off that thing is staying in the house.

Smartphones/Tablets are the Switches biggest threat and rightfully so.

3DS despite selling well tracked WAY behind the original DS (hasn't reach half of what it did), you can thank smartphones for that.

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@brah4ever: it was game over... for the wii u

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#26  Edited By iandizion713
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@brah4ever: Who the heck wants to carry a controller with your phone. What kids have phones? They coming to the darkside. Nintendo get them on phone or Switch, you cant stop them, its too late.

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#27 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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I literally never said the Wii U sales slowdown was temporary. Stop misquoting me.

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#28 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@brah4ever said:
@Pedro said:

I am confused. Isn't Charizard always right? :P

He's been wrong numerous times, if I recall correctly, Charizard was the one saying Mario Kart 8 and Smash would turn things around with the Wii U.

Didn't say this either. I said Smash and Kart would sell. They did. Literally never said about Wii U performance picking up.

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When that day comes when they both do that and if the Switch is still $300 US SW will go crazy, lol.

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Unless people buy a console for the games it offers rather than it's technical specifications.

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@foxhound_fox said:

Unless people buy a console for the games it offers rather than it's technical specifications.

BLASPHEMY! We must all be pixel counters

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#32  Edited By BassMan
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I don't think Sony and MS need to do anything. The Switch can not compete with the power and library of those consoles. The Switch will live or die by the quality and frequency of Nintendo first party games. Zelda will be an amazing start, but they need to deliver more. If they can gather enough momentum, it may garner more third party support as well. However, third party support will never be very strong due to it not being at the same level of performance as the competing consoles. This will make traditional multi-plat titles difficult to port. The console is certainly more appealing than the Wii U, but it will be an uphill battle.

I pre-ordered one for Zelda and Mario, but I only buy consoles for exclusives. So, long droughts do not bother me as I play 90% of games on PC and have a huge backlog anyway. People who buy this as a primary console may not be as patient and forgiving. Things could turn sour quick if it does not pick up momentum early.

The popularity with mobile/portable users could have a big impact on how it is perceived as well. If people genuinely enjoy playing it on the go, and others see that people are enjoying it, they will want to try it and this could have a positive effect on sales.

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#33 mojito1988
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LOL at SW trying to directly compare a Console/Portable to a Console. The fanboys simply do not know what to do at this point. One system wars nothing ever changes.

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#34 Pedro
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@iandizion713 said:

Once Pokemon, Mario, and Minecraft comes to Switch, game over baby.

Gameover for the Switch you say....hmmmm

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#35  Edited By mojito1988
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I sure do love having a job. Makes it so much easier for me to not worry about $50.00 one way or another.

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#36 PutASpongeOn
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I literally might as well buy a wii u since the switch looks worse than that.

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#37 PutASpongeOn
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@mojito1988 said:

I sure do love having a job. Makes it so much easier for me to not worry about $50.00 one way or another.

You could get 50 bucks in 5 minutes and that game still wouldn't be worth it. No, it's a trash game.

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#38  Edited By KBFloYd
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well,

if nintendo doesnt release a handheld. this system will get double the japanese support.

--

this means square enix, capcom, konomi, koei tekmo, bandai, atlus,

all those franchises that were handheld exclusive, monster hunter, pokemon, animal crossing. they will now be on switch. thats triple the games.

if this is all true its already 10x better than wiiu.

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@foxhound_fox said:

Unless people buy a console for the games it offers rather than it's technical specifications.

What? No! I thought the point of buying a console was to spend all your time counting pixels and sales numbers instead of playing and enjoying the games.

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I like my Wii U, I know it was bad for Nintendo but to me as a gamer it was great. When I see the new Zelda, Mario and Xenoblade I know those games are worth the console alone. Because in the end as a passionate gamer what I seek is great games to play. I know I'm in the minority but all I need to buy a console is that one amazing game and right now I see 3 for that system.

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#41 Kruiz_Bathory
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@brah4ever: I agree in a lot of things you're saying, and I have this feeling that even if prices drop people will still buy the Switch. It'll be a trendy thing cux you know hipsters and shit. And then it'll be another Wii. People will just buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games. Sheep don't want to admit this and are always in denial.

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@phbz said:

I like my Wii U, I know it was bad for Nintendo but to me as a gamer it was great. When I see the new Zelda, Mario and Xenoblade I know those games are worth the console alone. Because in the end as a passionate gamer what I seek is great games to play. I know I'm in the minority but all I need to buy a console is that one amazing game and right now I see 3 for that system.

TBH I quite like my Wii U too.

When Xbone and PS4 were launching a lot of last gen remasters and third party games I'd rather play on PC, Wii U did give me a nice collection of exclusives to play;

I still have to play games like Bayonetta, Pikmin, Donkey Kong Country, etc... My list of PS4 and Xbone exclusives is way smaller.

But Switch at the moment is not really speaking to me. Zelda is the only appealing game at launch, mario kart is coming a month later, ... I just don't see enough great games yet the first year.

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#43  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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I live in the middle of the street on this one. The games they announced the other day were intriguing and perhaps in the right direction for starting a generation... (tough to deny a proper Mario and Zelda in year 1).

But I am deathly afraid of Nintendo slipping into the ssb, Mario Kart, Mario at the Olympics, Mario party, animal crossing, nintendogs type franchises that are just cancer to me.

I'd prefer strong single player offerings and not a slew of party games.

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#44 Ghost120x
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@silversix_ said:
$300 for these kind of graphics
$300 for these kind of graphics

or

$250 for a console that can get you this AND has access to all third party
$250 for a console that can get you this AND has access to all third party

Tough choice.

Fun or boredom? hmm...

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@brah4ever: have mine preordered mario kart 8 deluxe super Mario Zelda splatoon skyrim

Why not

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#46 djoffer
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I honestly don't get why people expected the switch to compete with Xbox/ps at this point?? Nintendo biggest market by fare is Japan and Asia in general and apparently every thing has gone handheld in these countries. So yeah making another iteration of a home console at this point would be pointless... sure we could wish for the specs to be a bit better, but since it's primarily selling point is to play it on the go, you need some kind of battery life and more powerful hardware would prevent that... to be honest I am intrigued enough in this to consider buying one, half a year ago I would have sworn I would never own a console from Nintendo!!

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The Switch literally has no games.

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#48 princeofshapeir
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@silversix_ said:

or

Tough choice.

well, you got your replies. nice work.

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#49  Edited By MonsieurX
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Your 3rd or 4th threat about the Switch already? The hate is real

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#50  Edited By BassMan
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

The Switch literally has no games.

It would be DOA without Zelda. However, Zelda is no ordinary game and is a true system seller for those who do not have Wii U.