MS comments on PSN-No Competition

With a four year head start on the competition, Xbox Live has pretty much set the standard for what gamers look for in a console-based online service, and while the PlayStation Network is a fine service in it's own right and free to boot, it still has a long way to go to catch up with the numbers Microsoft's service is pulling in. Just ask Robbie Bach, the President of Entertainment & Devices Division at Microsoft. In an interview with the Los Angeles Times he displays supreme confidence in the superiority of their service.

It's fair to say that Xbox Live is clearly head and shoulders above anything anyone else has tried to do. We don't have competition. Sony has done some things online, but nothing that can be called a service. We have a big advantage and we're going to keep pressing that advantage.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/trash-talk/robbie-bach-on-psn-+-no-competition-324322.php

With a four year head start on the competition, Xbox Live has pretty much set the standard for what gamers look for in a console-based online service, and while the PlayStation Network is a fine service in it's own right and free to boot, it still has a long way to go to catch up with the numbers Microsoft's service is pulling in. Just ask Robbie Bach, the President of Entertainment & Devices Division at Microsoft. In an interview with the Los Angeles Times he displays supreme confidence in the superiority of their service.

It's fair to say that Xbox Live is clearly head and shoulders above anything anyone else has tried to do. We don't have competition. Sony has done some things online, but nothing that can be called a service. We have a big advantage and we're going to keep pressing that advantage.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/trash-talk/robbie-bach-on-psn-+-no-competition-324322.php

Eltroz

WOW....and MS fans say Sony is cocky.

True, PSN is no compitition but XBLjust passed it's 5th year anniversary so what do people expect. That first year on XBL was pretty rough also if I remember it correctly.Riverwolf007

Kinda cool how PSN covered in 1 year what took XBL 4 years to cover, XBL only has that 1 year advantage left and PSN is closing the gap. When, tropheys, home, in game xmb and soundtracks come it's squared even. Most of this by the time Spring rolls around SUPPOSABLY!

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]

With a four year head start on the competition, Xbox Live has pretty much set the standard for what gamers look for in a console-based online service, and while the PlayStation Network is a fine service in it's own right and free to boot, it still has a long way to go to catch up with the numbers Microsoft's service is pulling in. Just ask Robbie Bach, the President of Entertainment & Devices Division at Microsoft. In an interview with the Los Angeles Times he displays supreme confidence in the superiority of their service.

It's fair to say that Xbox Live is clearly head and shoulders above anything anyone else has tried to do. We don't have competition. Sony has done some things online, but nothing that can be called a service. We have a big advantage and we're going to keep pressing that advantage.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/trash-talk/robbie-bach-on-psn-+-no-competition-324322.php

Javy03

WOW....and MS fans say Sony is cocky.

thats a fact, sony stays stuff like teh next gen begins when we say so and ps3 is 3x more powerful thne 360 and god knows how much BS Kutaragi has said before

With a four year head start on the competition, Xbox Live has pretty much set the standard for what gamers look for in a console-based online service, and while the PlayStation Network is a fine service in it's own right and free to boot, it still has a long way to go to catch up with the numbers Microsoft's service is pulling in. Just ask Robbie Bach, the President of Entertainment & Devices Division at Microsoft. In an interview with the Los Angeles Times he displays supreme confidence in the superiority of their service.

It's fair to say that Xbox Live is clearly head and shoulders above anything anyone else has tried to do. We don't have competition. Sony has done some things online, but nothing that can be called a service. We have a big advantage and we're going to keep pressing that advantage.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/trash-talk/robbie-bach-on-psn-+-no-competition-324322.php

Eltroz

Oh how wrong that statement is, so so wrong...

I hope this is a one off, because if it isn't and tehy keep coming up with crap like this, then microsoft are just going to be the Sony of 2009

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]True, PSN is no compitition but XBLjust passed it's 5th year anniversary so what do people expect. That first year on XBL was pretty rough also if I remember it correctly.D3monchicken

Kinda cool how PSN covered in 1 year what took XBL 4 years to cover, XBL only has that 1 year advantage left and PSN is closing the gap. When, tropheys, home, in game xmb and soundtracks come it's squared even. Most of this by the time Spring rolls around SUPPOSABLY!

It's harder to lead than follow, and I remember the Playstation 2 having an online network so I wouldn't really call it a 4 year head start :|

XBL is like California,

PSN is like IOWA - 5 years PLAY B3HIND!

i thought the PS2 had on-line? so how is PSN only 1 year but XBL is 5 years?thenorminator

Ps2 online was vastly different, each game pretty much built their own use for online, most notably Socom, each game had different friends lists etc.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]True, PSN is no compitition but XBLjust passed it's 5th year anniversary so what do people expect. That first year on XBL was pretty rough also if I remember it correctly.D3monchicken

Kinda cool how PSN covered in 1 year what took XBL 4 years to cover, XBL only has that 1 year advantage left and PSN is closing the gap. When, tropheys, home, in game xmb and soundtracks come it's squared even. Most of this by the time Spring rolls around SUPPOSABLY!

Dedicated servers > talking to anonymous, annoying 12 year olds.0bscurity

Unified >>>>> Proprietary

Kinda cool how PSN covered in 1 year what took XBL 4 years to cover, XBL only has that 1 year advantage left and PSN is closing the gap. When, tropheys, home, in game xmb and soundtracks come it's squared even. Most of this by the time Spring rolls around SUPPOSABLY!D3monchicken

[QUOTE="thenorminator"]i thought the PS2 had on-line? so how is PSN only 1 year but XBL is 5 years?D3monchicken

Ps2 online was vastly different, each game pretty much built their own use for online, most notably Socom, each game had different friends lists etc.

That still constitutes an online network and Xbox Live had achievements, in-game dashboard and custom soundtracks since launch :|

[QUOTE="0bscurity"]Dedicated servers > talking to anonymous, annoying 12 year olds.Douja555

Unified >>>>> Proprietary

Playing VF5 Online > Not playing it online.

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]

With a four year head start on the competition, Xbox Live has pretty much set the standard for what gamers look for in a console-based online service, and while the PlayStation Network is a fine service in it's own right and free to boot, it still has a long way to go to catch up with the numbers Microsoft's service is pulling in. Just ask Robbie Bach, the President of Entertainment & Devices Division at Microsoft. In an interview with the Los Angeles Times he displays supreme confidence in the superiority of their service.

It's fair to say that Xbox Live is clearly head and shoulders above anything anyone else has tried to do. We don't have competition. Sony has done some things online, but nothing that can be called a service. We have a big advantage and we're going to keep pressing that advantage.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/trash-talk/robbie-bach-on-psn-+-no-competition-324322.php

Javy03

WOW....and MS fans say Sony is cocky.

Dedicated servers > talking to anonymous, annoying 12 year olds.0bscurity

where do you get that stuff from? i barely get to play with those 12 years old...maybe 1 12 year old in 100 matches i play online with....oh and only 2 ps3 games have dedicated servers as far as i know, RFOM and Warhawk

MS seem far too confident in there selve's at leats PSN has Dedicated Server's i have nothing against XBOX LIVE i think it's great but the lag, they need to sort there server's out before claiming to be the best online gaming provider.PS360Fanboy

Yep, pretty much.

MS seem far too confident in there selve's at leats PSN has Dedicated Server's i have nothing against XBOX LIVE i think it's great but the lag, they need to sort there server's out before claiming to be the best online gaming provider.PS360Fanboy

please stop with that crap about XBL is so laggy. i rented CoD4 on the PS3 and guess what i got lag ...... yes i did now what?

MS seem far too confident in there selve's at leats PSN has Dedicated Server's i have nothing against XBOX LIVE i think it's great but the lag, they need to sort there server's out before claiming to be the best online gaming provider.PS360Fanboy

But what happens if you dont experience any lag?

Playing COD4 and Halo 3 atm, no lag ever.

zero lag what-so-ever.

MS seem far too confident in there selve's at leats PSN has Dedicated Server's i have nothing against XBOX LIVE i think it's great but the lag, they need to sort there server's out before claiming to be the best online gaming provider.PS360Fanboy

[QUOTE="PS360Fanboy"]MS seem far too confident in there selve's at leats PSN has Dedicated Server's i have nothing against XBOX LIVE i think it's great but the lag, they need to sort there server's out before claiming to be the best online gaming provider.Douja555

But what happens if you dont experience any lag?

Playing COD4 and Halo 3 atm, no lag ever.

zero lag what-so-ever.

Don't you just hate it when Cows use that "they had a head start" excuse. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the PS2 came out before the original Xbox. And the PS2 had online enabled games. With that said, PS2 already had some online service but they wasn't competent and didn't really focus on the online aspect of a game. Microsoft on the other hand focused on the online service of a game and are just a few steps away from perfecting it. So since Xbox Live has been so successful and profitable, all of a sudden Sony desides to really focus on the online part. What a joke, so is the PSN. Play B3hind.

I still think FREE is better. And the fact that Playstation Network games support more players is also a nice plus. I also like that the prices are reasonable for Playstation Network. Original Playstation games $5.99 original Xbox game $15. Themes, free on PS3, again Xbox fans get to pay. MS fans love to pay the money.EmperorSupreme

Did you know you can network your PC to the Xbox and download any theme you want and make it a back ground. And it's FREE ! Yeah, I can also stream and watch movies I downloaded from the internet through Windows Media Center for FREE. Can the PS3 do that..........Let me guess you're stuck with what ever Sony wants to give you. Sony fans love to get crap.

[QUOTE="Douja555"]

[QUOTE="PS360Fanboy"]MS seem far too confident in there selve's at leats PSN has Dedicated Server's i have nothing against XBOX LIVE i think it's great but the lag, they need to sort there server's out before claiming to be the best online gaming provider.H3llstrike

But what happens if you dont experience any lag?

Playing COD4 and Halo 3 atm, no lag ever.

zero lag what-so-ever.

Actually it is true, not anything noticable atleast taht will deter you away from the game.

occasional hic-ups here and there, but you expect that with deciated servers also.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]True, PSN is no compitition but XBLjust passed it's 5th year anniversary so what do people expect. That first year on XBL was pretty rough also if I remember it correctly.D3monchicken

Kinda cool how PSN covered in 1 year what took XBL 4 years to cover, XBL only has that 1 year advantage left and PSN is closing the gap. When, tropheys, home, in game xmb and soundtracks come it's squared even. Most of this by the time Spring rolls around SUPPOSABLY!

There are so many flaws in that post i dont even know where to start.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]
I still think FREE is better. And the fact that Playstation Network games support more players is also a nice plus. I also like that the prices are reasonable for Playstation Network. Original Playstation games $5.99 original Xbox game $15. Themes, free on PS3, again Xbox fans get to pay. MS fans love to pay the money.player_leo

Did you know you can network your PC to the Xbox and download any theme you want and make it a back ground. And it's FREE ! Yeah, I can also stream and watch movies I downloaded from the internet through Windows Media Center for FREE. Can the PS3 do that..........Let me guess you're stuck with what ever Sony wants to give you. Sony fans love to get crap.

Ps3 has media server capability, and can stream whatever i have on my computer through to my TV.

Ps3 has free themes in the PSN store, and sony has released the tool to create them yourself absolutely free.

Ps3 has media server capability, and can stream whatever i have on my computer through to my TV.

Ps3 has free themes in the PSN store, and sony has released the tool to create them yourself absolutely free.

nicenator

You can stream video, music and pictures from your 360 too. :|

And you can also set any image you like as your background.

EDIT: can you stream video from your PC onto your PS3? :? Mine wont.

Because the person i quoted seemed to be under the impression that the PS3 couldn't do it.

PC online gaming destroys XBL.Zhengi

That's not really a fair statement. While i'd take my PC over any of my consoles any day, you cant come out with a comment like that because really "PC online" doesn't exist. Every game is down to the developer. The quality varies from game to game. At least with consoles you have a set standard. You know the 360 will always have a gamertag, ranked games, social games, your friends list, voice chat yadda yadda yadda.

PSN can't even compare to Xbox Live! with all the features it includes, friend lists, downloadable content, achievments, gamer profiles, easy to use etc.

And for the love of Christ, stop saying Xbox Live! is a lag fest since you obviously have never played a single match in your natural born life.

[QUOTE="PS360Fanboy"]MS seem far too confident in there selve's at leats PSN has Dedicated Server's i have nothing against XBOX LIVE i think it's great but the lag, they need to sort there server's out before claiming to be the best online gaming provider.Douja555

But what happens if you dont experience any lag?

Playing COD4 and Halo 3 atm, no lag ever.

zero lag what-so-ever.

Buuuuuull. That's complete nonsense. You'll never experience no lag. While i admit COD4 and Halo 3 in particular have some amazing netcode, you still get the odd bit of lag now and then. "No lag ever" as far as i'm concerned, has never occured. With any game. Ever.

Though cows like to chant "lag-free 40-player resistance!!" :roll: As if....

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]PC online gaming destroys XBL.Ninja-Vox

That's not really a fair statement. While i'd take my PC over any of my consoles any day, you cant come out with a comment like that because really "PC online" doesn't exist. Every game is down to the developer. The quality varies from game to game. At least with consoles you have a set standard. You know the 360 will always have a gamertag, ranked games, social games, your friends list, voice chat yadda yadda yadda.

It's fair to say that Xbox Live is clearly head and shoulders above anything anyone else has tried to do. Robbie Bach

I'd still take PC's non-standard online gaming over XBL.

EDIT: can you stream video from your PC onto your PS3? :? Mine wont.Ninja-Vox

Depends on the file. You can using Tversity i think for AVI etc, because it converts it for you and then streams it. i assume with the update coming and divx suppportit will allow a direct stream without it.

Heh, let's see what M$ thinks when Home comes out. PS3Compass

They will say exactly what this article reads.. No Compitition. When is Home coming out? Now the real question, do you really think it's coming out on time?

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

EDIT: can you stream video from your PC onto your PS3? :? Mine wont.nicenator

Depends on the file. You can using Tversity i think for AVI etc, because it converts it for you and then streams it. i assume with the update coming and divx suppportit will allow a direct stream without it.

Meh. I'll just use the 360. Both fail in comparison to just playing straight off the PC with surround sound anyway.

Netcode for R:FOM had weird netcode that reminded me of that old line of SegaSoft games. It never felt like I had any lag but on the 40v40 matches I would see people's character acting as if they were in the throes of bad lad, moving erratically, in circles, etc.

I have bad problems with DOA4 and Gears. Oddly that SF2 game seems to work pretty well online.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]
I still think FREE is better. And the fact that Playstation Network games support more players is also a nice plus. I also like that the prices are reasonable for Playstation Network. Original Playstation games $5.99 original Xbox game $15. Themes, free on PS3, again Xbox fans get to pay. MS fans love to pay the money.player_leo

Did you know you can network your PC to the Xbox and download any theme you want and make it a back ground. And it's FREE ! Yeah, I can also stream and watch movies I downloaded from the internet through Windows Media Center for FREE. Can the PS3 do that..........Let me guess you're stuck with what ever Sony wants to give you. Sony fans love to get crap.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]True, PSN is no compitition but XBLjust passed it's 5th year anniversary so what do people expect. That first year on XBL was pretty rough also if I remember it correctly.D3monchicken

Kinda cool how PSN covered in 1 year what took XBL 4 years to cover, XBL only has that 1 year advantage left and PSN is closing the gap. When, tropheys, home, in game xmb and soundtracks come it's squared even. Most of this by the time Spring rolls around SUPPOSABLY!

So you're using the 'Wait till next year' excuse. By the wayeven afterone year Sony still hasn't got half the stuff XBL has. Sony isn't closing any gap, next year XBLis still going to be 4 years more advanced than PSN

[QUOTE="D3monchicken"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]True, PSN is no compitition but XBLjust passed it's 5th year anniversary so what do people expect. That first year on XBL was pretty rough also if I remember it correctly.player_leo

Kinda cool how PSN covered in 1 year what took XBL 4 years to cover, XBL only has that 1 year advantage left and PSN is closing the gap. When, tropheys, home, in game xmb and soundtracks come it's squared even. Most of this by the time Spring rolls around SUPPOSABLY!

So you're using the 'Wait till next year' excuse. By the wayeven afterone year Sony still hasn't got half the stuff XBL has. Sony isn't closing any gap, next year XBLis still going to be 4 years more advanced than PSN

[QUOTE="0bscurity"]Dedicated servers > talking to anonymous, annoying 12 year olds.mingo123

i barely get to play with those 12 years old...

I still don't get what the Xbox live service provides that is so stellar it gets defended to the death? Of course I don't have a 360 yet, and when I do, i'll of course pay the $50 or $35 or whatever it goes for, but what is so great? Please someone tell me what it provides that is over and beyond playing online, because isn't that the only thing Silver doesn't get you?