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#1 Kokuro_Kun
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Since Kinect came out i've been doing a lot of research and noticed how often MS says they listen to us, gamers, the consumers, on how they can better themselves as a company and better cater to us all... The problem is, they're not doing the biggest job... giving us actual games to play. it seems were only getting hardware.

We got Kinect, which is neat.

We got a new controller, also neat.

The "new" Slim Xbox 360. Better late than never.

New hardware bundles like the chat pad and mic for 30$.

This is all great and very welcomed to the gaming community. But, alas! The only game us "core" gamers have for the future is Gears of War 3. Fable 3 just released but im not sure we can even count this game due to a PC release.

So after all this crap about how they say there giving us gamers what we want, there not. Where the hell are the games? Isn't this what we all want more than anything?

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#2 Riverwolf007
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by you they don't mean YOU they mean people that will buy cheap shovelware that cost a few hundred thousand bucks to make and sell 2 million copies at $50 a pop.

YOU= wii customers

so yeah they are all about YOU.

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Believe it or not, multiplatform games are not figments of our imaginations. They are very playable indeed. But as far as exclusives go, Gears of War 3 and Project Kingdoms definitely need more company.
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Since Kinect came out i've been doing a lot of research and noticed how often MS says they listen to us, gamers, the consumers, on how they can better themselves as a company and better cater to us all... The problem is, their not doing the biggest job... giving us actual games to play. it seems were only getting hardware.

We got Kinect, which is neat.

We got a new controller, also neat.

The "new" Slim Xbox 360. Better late than never.

New hardware bundles like the chat pad and mic for 30$.

This is all great and very welcomed to the gaming community. But, alas! The only game us "core" gamers have for the future is Gears of War 3. Fable 3 just released but im not sure we can even count this game due to a PC release.

So after all this crap about how they say there giving us gamers what we want, there not. Where the hell are the games? Isn't this what we all want more than anything?

Kokuro_Kun

why would fable not count? :?

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#6 soulitane
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You can't count Fable 3 as a game microsoft made because it's on the PC? That makes no sense. I think when they say they are listening to us that they mean the COD crowd. They acquire early DLC and think we will be happy. Personally I don't like this strategy but it's not like I can change it.
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#7 Kokuro_Kun
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[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]Believe it or not, multiplatform games are not figments of our imaginations. They are very playable indeed. But as far as exclusives go, Gears of War 3 and Project Kingdoms definitely need more company.

But what exactly warrants an Xbox purchase at this point? I dont mean there's nothing to play. Exclusives... Exclusives .. and more exclusives... MS use to do a good job at getting these.
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#8 Kokuro_Kun
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[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]

Since Kinect came out i've been doing a lot of research and noticed how often MS says they listen to us, gamers, the consumers, on how they can better themselves as a company and better cater to us all... The problem is, their not doing the biggest job... giving us actual games to play. it seems were only getting hardware.

We got Kinect, which is neat.

We got a new controller, also neat.

The "new" Slim Xbox 360. Better late than never.

New hardware bundles like the chat pad and mic for 30$.

This is all great and very welcomed to the gaming community. But, alas! The only game us "core" gamers have for the future is Gears of War 3. Fable 3 just released but im not sure we can even count this game due to a PC release.

So after all this crap about how they say there giving us gamers what we want, there not. Where the hell are the games? Isn't this what we all want more than anything?

CaseyWegner

why would fable not count? :?

ITs getting a PC release. And in context im talking about the future of the Xbox. Fable 3 already released, it was just a notable game to mention.
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[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"][QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]Believe it or not, multiplatform games are not figments of our imaginations. They are very playable indeed. But as far as exclusives go, Gears of War 3 and Project Kingdoms definitely need more company.

But what exactly warrants an Xbox purchase at this point? I dont mean there's nothing to play. Exclusives... Exclusives .. and more exclusives... MS use to do a good job at getting these.

Previous exclusives and multiplats,assuming you don't have a gaming PC or PS3. Or perhaps, all of your friends use XBL to play online, thats why I chose the 360.
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[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]

Since Kinect came out i've been doing a lot of research and noticed how often MS says they listen to us, gamers, the consumers, on how they can better themselves as a company and better cater to us all... The problem is, their not doing the biggest job... giving us actual games to play. it seems were only getting hardware.

We got Kinect, which is neat.

We got a new controller, also neat.

The "new" Slim Xbox 360. Better late than never.

New hardware bundles like the chat pad and mic for 30$.

This is all great and very welcomed to the gaming community. But, alas! The only game us "core" gamers have for the future is Gears of War 3. Fable 3 just released but im not sure we can even count this game due to a PC release.

So after all this crap about how they say there giving us gamers what we want, there not. Where the hell are the games? Isn't this what we all want more than anything?

CaseyWegner

why would fable not count? :?

we threw it out of sw because it has a pause button. :P casual trash!

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#11 Kokuro_Kun
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Your topic just murdered my inner English teacher.

At least pick one way to misspell "they're" and stick with it.

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#13 soulitane
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]

Since Kinect came out i've been doing a lot of research and noticed how often MS says they listen to us, gamers, the consumers, on how they can better themselves as a company and better cater to us all... The problem is, their not doing the biggest job... giving us actual games to play. it seems were only getting hardware.

We got Kinect, which is neat.

We got a new controller, also neat.

The "new" Slim Xbox 360. Better late than never.

New hardware bundles like the chat pad and mic for 30$.

This is all great and very welcomed to the gaming community. But, alas! The only game us "core" gamers have for the future is Gears of War 3. Fable 3 just released but im not sure we can even count this game due to a PC release.

So after all this crap about how they say there giving us gamers what we want, there not. Where the hell are the games? Isn't this what we all want more than anything?

Kokuro_Kun

why would fable not count? :?

ITs getting a PC release. And in context im talking about the future of the Xbox. Fable 3 already released, it was just a notable game to mention.

It's getting a PC yes but it still counts in your context. MS payed for it to be made for people on the xbox to play so it counts.
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For the love of god people pay attention to the topic. they're not giving us exclusive games any more. Stop talking about how Fable counts and how i misspelled words. Seriouslywtf
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[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"][QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]Believe it or not, multiplatform games are not figments of our imaginations. They are very playable indeed. But as far as exclusives go, Gears of War 3 and Project Kingdoms definitely need more company.

But what exactly warrants an Xbox purchase at this point? I dont mean there's nothing to play. Exclusives... Exclusives .. and more exclusives... MS use to do a good job at getting these.

If you don't already own one you have a tonne of exclusives to buy... its not as bad as you are making it sound anyway, yes some more exclusives announced is needed but MS don't announce them 6 years prior to release like Sony do to be fair.
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#16 Kokuro_Kun
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Why do you keep saying we? your allegiances have been very vocally announced in the past so I don't believe your included in that WE.

WilliamRLBaker

"We" as in Xbox owners.

I own an Xbox and PS3, want proof? As an upset Xbox owner, im trying to get the word out how MS stopped catering exclusives to the Xbox owners. Which includes me, like it or not.

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#17 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]

Since Kinect came out i've been doing a lot of research and noticed how often MS says they listen to us, gamers, the consumers, on how they can better themselves as a company and better cater to us all... The problem is, their not doing the biggest job... giving us actual games to play. it seems were only getting hardware.

We got Kinect, which is neat.

We got a new controller, also neat.

The "new" Slim Xbox 360. Better late than never.

New hardware bundles like the chat pad and mic for 30$.

This is all great and very welcomed to the gaming community. But, alas! The only game us "core" gamers have for the future is Gears of War 3. Fable 3 just released but im not sure we can even count this game due to a PC release.

So after all this crap about how they say there giving us gamers what we want, there not. Where the hell are the games? Isn't this what we all want more than anything?

Kokuro_Kun

why would fable not count? :?

ITs getting a PC release. And in context im talking about the future of the Xbox. Fable 3 already released, it was just a notable game to mention.

i know. why wouldn't it count aside from being already released? :|

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#18 Kokuro_Kun
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[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

why would fable not count? :?

CaseyWegner

ITs getting a PC release. And in context im talking about the future of the Xbox. Fable 3 already released, it was just a notable game to mention.

i know. why wouldn't it count aside from being already released? :|

Because im referring to FUTURE xbox releases.
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#19 soulitane
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Why do you keep saying we? your allegiances have been very vocally announced in the past so I don't believe your included in that WE.

Kokuro_Kun
I own an Xbox and PS3, want proof? As an upset Xbox owner, im trying to get the word out how MS stopped catering exclusives to the Xbox owners. Which includes me, like it or not.

Do you have a PC capable of playing games, if not then you can play all them PC games that are on xbox.
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[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]ITs getting a PC release. And in context im talking about the future of the Xbox. Fable 3 already released, it was just a notable game to mention. CaseyWegner

i know. why wouldn't it count aside from being already released? :|

Because im referring to FUTURE xbox releases.

i said "aside from it already being released". :|

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#21 Riverwolf007
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ok i'll try to be serious.

this gen is 5 years old, it takes 2-3 years to make a game, 360 exclusives look pretty thin.

what does all that add up to?

1st party working on next gen games. why have you not heard about them? because they don't wnat to kill off hardware sales before until the absolutely have to.

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#22 Kokuro_Kun
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[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Why do you keep saying we? your allegiances have been very vocally announced in the past so I don't believe your included in that WE.

soulitane
I own an Xbox and PS3, want proof? As an upset Xbox owner, im trying to get the word out how MS stopped catering exclusives to the Xbox owners. Which includes me, like it or not.

Do you have a PC capable of playing games, if not then you can play all them PC games that are on xbox.

"Sigh" I dont care about that. I care about FUTURE xbox exclusives, they're next to none existent.
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#23 Kokuro_Kun
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ok i'll try to be serious.

this gen is 5 years old, it takes 2-3 years to make a game, 360 exclusives look pretty thin.

what does all that add up to?

1st party working on next gen games. why have you not heard about them? because they don't wnat to kill off hardware sales before until the absolutely have to.

Riverwolf007
This is the type of answer im looking for. Thank you. Makes sense.
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It's all about Kinect and 720 development now; they'll throw us some scraps in the form of Gears of War 3, more Forza & Halo now and then.
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#25 soulitane
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[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"][QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]I own an Xbox and PS3, want proof? As an upset Xbox owner, im trying to get the word out how MS stopped catering exclusives to the Xbox owners. Which includes me, like it or not.

Do you have a PC capable of playing games, if not then you can play all them PC games that are on xbox.

"Sigh" I dont care about that. I care about FUTURE xbox exclusives, they're next to none existent.

How can we give you a proper answer as to there being little amounts of exclusives, everything we say is likely to be pure speculation.
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[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]Believe it or not, multiplatform games are not figments of our imaginations. They are very playable indeed. But as far as exclusives go, Gears of War 3 and Project Kingdoms definitely need more company.Kokuro_Kun
But what exactly warrants an Xbox purchase at this point? I dont mean there's nothing to play. Exclusives... Exclusives .. and more exclusives... MS use to do a good job at getting these.

If you HAVEN'T bought a 360 YET, there is STILL a large category of OLDER games to play that you CAN'T play on PS3... why do people assume that if you buy a console now you ultimately can only look forward to the future?

I haven't bought a PS3 yet, does that mean I only have LBP2, Infamous 2and Killzone 3to look forward to in the future? Cause thats all I care about thats been announced...

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[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"][QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]I own an Xbox and PS3, want proof? As an upset Xbox owner, im trying to get the word out how MS stopped catering exclusives to the Xbox owners. Which includes me, like it or not.

Do you have a PC capable of playing games, if not then you can play all them PC games that are on xbox.

"Sigh" I dont care about that. I care about FUTURE xbox exclusives, they're next to none existent.

I own a ps3 and Wii that does not make me unbiased. you have been more then vocal since you joined these boards displaying the sides you had chosen, I've proven my ownership of the other systems does that make me any less the lemming general here? no Nearly every point you made in the OP was flawed in quite a few ways but you seem to be working in the What If alot we know there are games being released on the 360 you are just stuck on FUTURE exclusives instead of seeing the wealth of games.
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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]I own an Xbox and PS3, want proof? As an upset Xbox owner, im trying to get the word out how MS stopped catering exclusives to the Xbox owners. Which includes me, like it or not.Kokuro_Kun
Do you have a PC capable of playing games, if not then you can play all them PC games that are on xbox.

"Sigh" I dont care about that. I care about FUTURE xbox exclusives, they're next to none existent.

your points and your topic title are growing more distant by the post it seems.

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#29 johny300
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360 has some exclusives next year like: Project gotham racing 5 i think. Forza kinect. Kinect titles. Also MS said they're looking for some shooters for next year. Gears3. That crytek exclusive.
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#31 Dibdibdobdobo
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Of cause MS dont listen to customers as theyre too busy listening to what will probaly make them the most money. Same as Sony and Nintendo.
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#32 Sw33tChilLi
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It's "they're", not "their". The thing they care about the most is money, just like Ninty and Sony. If casuals is where the money's at, you can't blame them.
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#33 67gt500
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Not sure i know what you mean TC - xbox360 is still a vibrant platform and I suspect, the best experiences it has to offer are still yet to come our way... in the meantime, there are literally hundreds of disc-based games to enjoy, Games on Demand and a plethora of amazing XBL Arcade and Indie titles for your enjoyment. Kinect is blazing new trails, and by all accounts, it's amazing... the future of xbox gaming is very bright indeed, and MS has clearly been spending the time, and money necessary to bring gamers of all stripes amazing, revolutionary experiences. Truth is, 3rd person cover-based shoot-'em-ups only represent a small fraction of what gamers want to play...
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I'll wait to see more from that new Crytek title, but aside from that game and Gears of War 3, it is slim pickins on the three-sixty.
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Gears will be worth it though, plus Forza is supposedly coming in 2011, not all bad then.
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Since Kinect came out i've been doing a lot of research and noticed how often MS says they listen to us, gamers, the consumers, on how they can better themselves as a company and better cater to us all... The problem is, they're not doing the biggest job... giving us actual games to play. it seems were only getting hardware.

We got Kinect, which is neat.

We got a new controller, also neat.

The "new" Slim Xbox 360. Better late than never.

New hardware bundles like the chat pad and mic for 30$.

This is all great and very welcomed to the gaming community. But, alas! The only game us "core" gamers have for the future is Gears of War 3. Fable 3 just released but im not sure we can even count this game due to a PC release.

So after all this crap about how they say there giving us gamers what we want, there not. Where the hell are the games? Isn't this what we all want more than anything?

Kokuro_Kun
the xbox doesnt have that many exclusives because the 3rd party games sell so well on the console its not necessary for them to make many exclusives, yea the xbox basically just has the big 3 what i like the call it, halo gears and fable but thats really it.. :/ its a shame cuz a couple of years ago it seemt like they were trying to make more exclusives but its kinda died down now and MS makes alot of money from the 3rd party games so idk rare needs to make a comeback not this kinect stuff
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How Microsoft processes your ideas:

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#38 sireclaborn
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[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]For the love of god people pay attention to the topic. they're not giving us exclusive games any more. Stop talking about how Fable counts and how i misspelled words. Seriouslywtf

haha i noticed this too..everyone's dodging your main topic because its true...im not even a lem and i notice that the 360 is lacking...kinect...ok? gears of war? and thats it...
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#39 VoodooHak
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Since this gen started, I've said that exclusives just don't mean as much as they used to. With online services and add-on content, there are layers to exclusivity that don't follow the conventional definition fo the term. Xbox is doing fine.

Say... how are the sales of CoD Black Ops turning out on 360/PS3/PC?

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#40 lawlessx
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Microsoft stopped listening to they're fans when they started work on kinect.
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#41 sireclaborn
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well if you think about it ms is too busy trying to cut the ps3 and the wii throat.. 500 million on kinect? im not sure how much sony spent on move marketing but if it was near that amount we would of heard about it.... also sony doent need to do that...they have good commercials and good word of mouth so move is selling....sony spends their money on games...ms...marketing kinect....maybe its time to jump ship...i mean they did pay 50 million for dlc
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#42 GTSaiyanjin2
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Well its been like this ever since late 08 when gears 2 came out. So I dont really care at this point, I own all the consoles, and a PC so its not like I'll miss out on anything.

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#43 dontshackzmii
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i gave up on ms a long time ago i don't know why people still support them .

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#44 Rage010101
Member since 2006 • 5470 Posts

hey hey thats not true. lems have games like dance central sequels to look forward to!

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#45 theuncharted34
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Microsoft Have never had the console to get if you care for exclusives. The Xbox brand is one big multiplatform hub.

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#46 devilsoultaker2
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most gamer are enjoying Cod : BO right now ...or at least the 360 version of it so yeah i think you're confusing fanboys with gamers
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#47 UnrealDelusion
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most gamer are enjoying Cod : BO right now ...or at least the 360 version of it so yeah i think you're confusing fanboys with gamers devilsoultaker2

Excuse me 360 version? No I'm enjoying the superiour PC version which works just fine on my PC :lol: