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#1 Sephyzero
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Microsoft doubling down on pc gaming

What do you guys think?

Maybe if MS never abandoned PC gaming in the first place...

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#2 mayceV
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sounds good, lets see if they have worth while extended support. gamers hate them now, but if they are irresistably good everyone will love them, like olden days.
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#3 Mystic-G
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A Fable 3 delay and a idiot version of Age of Empires isn't doubling down.

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#4 Shatilov
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This news isn't new, yeah its new but this is the 2nd time they talk about helping the PC Platform in the last 2 months. So I think that they might be trying to support it some how. As they say, 3rd time the strike. I'll wait till i hear news about this for the 3rd time. Thanks TC for this
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#5 starfox15
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Microsoft is going to support a platform for which they can make the most money.

They're going to focus on the 360 because they don't have to worry so much about pirating on that system.

They'll say whatever they want to get people interested, but realistically I don't see this happening or at least not in the capacity that that statement makes.

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#6 osan0
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MS did make many fine PC games back in the day..imho their very best. if they could get back to that then brilliant. but MS..2X0 still equals 0 and 0 is the amount of effort you have put in on the PC side over the last 7 years or so. as long as the xbox exists...i just cant see MS giving windows priority unfortunately. they should...it makes a stupid amount of money for them...certainly a hell of alot more than the xbox.....but whoever runs the xbox side fo things seems to have a huge amount of clout in MS land. as far as gaming goes in MS....i think the xbox will still be number 1 and when there is a conflict of interest (and there will be many conflicts of interest..make no mistake) the decisions will go in the xbox favour. i hope im wrong....more competition is always nice in the DD space and, as i said, MS used to be one of the great PC game devs imho (windows golf people...remember windows golf :) ). but i see this as just a flash in the pan due to a resurgent apple in the desktop arena. also MS...cross platform play....organise it between the PS3 and 360. any effort in trying to get it work between the PC and 360 (not technically...technically its not a problem) is a complete waste of time.
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Microsoft is going to support a platform for which they can make the most money.

They're going to focus on the 360 because they don't have to worry so much about pirating on that system.

They'll say whatever they want to get people interested, but realistically I don't see this happening or at least not in the capacity that that statement makes.

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People owning Xbox360 and a MAC? A really bright future for MS :lol:
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#8 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="Shatilov"]This news isn't new, yeah its new but this is the 2nd time they talk about helping the PC Platform in the last 2 months. So I think that they might be trying to support it some how. As they say, 3rd time the strike. I'll wait till i hear news about this for the 3rd time. Thanks TC for this

PC platform doesn't need helping. As you can see it doesn't need a first party company to have the most high scoring exclusives.

Microsoft is going to support a platform for which they can make the most money.

They're going to focus on the 360 because they don't have to worry so much about pirating on that system.

They'll say whatever they want to get people interested, but realistically I don't see this happening or at least not in the capacity that that statement makes.

starfox15
Valve and Blizzard are making a killing of PC, despite piracy.
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#9 Sephyzero
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Making some service that lets people buy games won't really do anything in my opinion. Getting people to buy games through some windows service that they can buy without it won't really improve PC gaming at all. They have to start producing PC exclusive games, or if not exclusive, at least better games for PC.
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#10 mayceV
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Making some service that lets people buy games won't really do anything in my opinion. Getting people to buy games through some windows service that they can buy without it won't really improve PC gaming at all. They have to start producing PC exclusive games, or if not exclusive, at least better games for PC.Sephyzero
well they're starting. I mean yes its only 1 full game, an online RTS, and a port of an Action adventure RPG; but they have stated that that just the beggining of the games. There'll be more to come I just hope its good stuff.
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A Fable 3 delay and a idiot version of Age of Empires isn't doubling down.

Mystic-G

and yet you've played neither.

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A Fable 3 delay and a idiot version of Age of Empires isn't doubling down.

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there's also the new flight simulator
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#13 Mystic-G
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[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

A Fable 3 delay and a idiot version of Age of Empires isn't doubling down.

AiurProtoss

and yet you've played neither.

The first game I mentioned doesn't require me to play it in order to make the statement true. Secondly, the new AoE is a dumbed-down version of it. Any person with at least one eye can tell that much.
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Freelancer 2! Make it happen MS!

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#15 ohthemanatee
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[QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

A Fable 3 delay and a idiot version of Age of Empires isn't doubling down.

Mystic-G

and yet you've played neither.

The first game I mentioned doesn't require me to play it in order to make the statement true. Secondly, the new AoE is a dumbed-down version of it. Any person with at least one eye can tell that much.

you do realize you provided no real argument right?

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#16 Mystic-G
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[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]

and yet you've played neither.

ohthemanatee

The first game I mentioned doesn't require me to play it in order to make the statement true. Secondly, the new AoE is a dumbed-down version of it. Any person with at least one eye can tell that much.

you do realize you provided no real argument right?

That's nice. Just saying all that I need to say.
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"One obvious place where Microsoft's new Games For Windows store may have the upper hand on Steam is how it handles digital rights management.

Where Steam uses a single proprietary system, Games for Windows will have a much more flexible approach.

The Marketplace will work with nearly all forms of digital rights management, Microsoft told Kotaku. Instead it will allow publishers to submit a pre-protected or unprotected build of their game with their choice of DRM. Microsoft will then distribute the builds on the Marketplace along with the appropriate activation keys."

This is the dumbest thing I've seen today.

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#18 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"] The first game I mentioned doesn't require me to play it in order to make the statement true. Secondly, the new AoE is a dumbed-down version of it. Any person with at least one eye can tell that much. Mystic-G

you do realize you provided no real argument right?

That's nice. Just saying all that I need to say.

You should give the game a chance.

I'm a fan of AOE so I will.

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#19 dakan45
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Shttt, dont talk crap about MS or they gonna realize that we are all pirates and stop PORTING their "great" consolish games for pc years after the pc release :lol: Joking ofcourse but thats what ms things or likes to use as a scapegoat.
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#20 Heil68
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Nothing but win there.
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#21 DarkLink77
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Well, it's nice to see them take GFWL seriously. Here's hoping it takes off. Cross platform play is a huge plus for things like fighters, etc.

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#22 Mystic-G
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Well, it's nice to see them take GFWL seriously. Here's hoping it takes off. Cross platform play is a huge plus for things like fighters, etc.

DarkLink77
I'd also like the so cross-platform play on racing games. But here's to hope, which is all there really is here.
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#23 Mazoch
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I have to say that as an avid PC Gamer I'm completely indifferent. The best thing GFWL can do for me as stay away. Shuffling around their online store does not constitute doubling down or even showing serious support for PC Gaming. However, so what. Microsoft doesn't own the PC Platform, they don't control it and to be honest that's how I personally like it. A couple of things that MS could do to show renewed support PC gaming: 1) Release improved tool for converting games between the X360 platform and Windows 2) Support the release of Xbox360 exclusive titles on the PC But to be honest the announcement is just empty calories. It's like Apple saying that they are doubling down on their support for the music industry because they are releasing a new version of iTunes. MS doesn't 'owe' it to PC Gamers to do anything, and I'm not seeing anything that make it looks like they are doing anything.
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#24 J-WOW
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if they really care about PC gaming the would release Gears 3 and Reach for the PC
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if they really care about PC gaming the would release Gears 3 and Reach for the PCJ-WOW
and then where would the Xbox be?
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#26 Mystic-G
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[QUOTE="J-WOW"]if they really care about PC gaming the would release Gears 3 and Reach for the PCohthemanatee
and then where would the Xbox be?

Next to the TV.
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#27 Mr_BillGates
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Too little and too late. Valve has already beat them to the punch with Steam, and their effort in the current Live platform is still disappointing.

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The Marketplace will work with nearly all forms of digital rights management, Microsoft told Kotaku. Instead it will allow publishers to submit a pre-protected or unprotected build of their game with their choice of DRM. Microsoft will then distribute the builds on the Marketplace along with the appropriate activation keys.

Glad to see both MS and PC publishers are still in touch with what the consumer wants.

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#29 bobaban
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if they really care about PC gaming the would release Gears 3 and Reach for the PCJ-WOW
Yeah, truthfully if they really cared they would. Especially as those are so easy to port over.
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[QUOTE="J-WOW"]if they really care about PC gaming the would release Gears 3 and Reach for the PCbobaban
Yeah, truthfully if they really cared they would. Especially as those are so easy to port over.

and then console gamers would accuse them of abandoning the xbox (specially now with that crap known as kinect)
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#31 carljohnson3456
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They should. Microsoft has a big opportunity there as well. I dont know why they havent done more for it in the past few years anyway.
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[QUOTE="bobaban"][QUOTE="J-WOW"]if they really care about PC gaming the would release Gears 3 and Reach for the PCohthemanatee
Yeah, truthfully if they really cared they would. Especially as those are so easy to port over.

and then console gamers would accuse them of abandoning the xbox (specially now with that crap known as kinect)

...Which is why they aren't going to pursue the PC as a game outlet as much as their 360. They've poured billions (with a "B") into Kinect. For them to just turn around and support the PC exclusives would be crippling to their profits.

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Marketing-Kinect-Windows-Phone-7-Ads-wp7,news-8373.html

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The way I see it, their "renewed" interest in the PC scene is mostly just a matter of rereleasing GFWL as a competitor to Steam aka opening anotehr digital store.

No thx, MS dominating PC gaming sounds about as bad as Apple buying Sony.

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The way I see it, their "renewed" interest in the PC scene is mostly just a matter of rereleasing GFWL as a competitor to Steam aka opening anotehr digital store.

No thx, MS dominating PC gaming sounds about as bad as Apple buying Sony.

Filthybastrd

They already do dominate pc gaming you have to install their lame os to play games on

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#35 jun_aka_pekto
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Well, if MS wants to brainwash me into a believer, they better come out with Combat Flight Simulator 4. I liked CFS 2 and 3. I was hoping there'd be a 4th installment.

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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"][QUOTE="bobaban"] Yeah, truthfully if they really cared they would. Especially as those are so easy to port over. starfox15

and then console gamers would accuse them of abandoning the xbox (specially now with that crap known as kinect)

...Which is why they aren't going to pursue the PC as a game outlet as much as their 360. They've poured billions (with a "B") into Kinect. For them to just turn around and support the PC exclusives would be crippling to their profits.

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Marketing-Kinect-Windows-Phone-7-Ads-wp7,news-8373.html

ideally they should get studios that would solely focus on the PC and studios that solely focus on the 360

but I doubt that will happen

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#37 Filthybastrd
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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

The way I see it, their "renewed" interest in the PC scene is mostly just a matter of rereleasing GFWL as a competitor to Steam aka opening anotehr digital store.

No thx, MS dominating PC gaming sounds about as bad as Apple buying Sony.

dontshackzmii

They already do dominate pc gaming you have to install their lame os to play games on

No they dominate the OS market.. Noone's paying royalities to them for releasing PC games.

Edit: But we will if they get their way.

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[QUOTE="bobaban"][QUOTE="J-WOW"]if they really care about PC gaming the would release Gears 3 and Reach for the PCohthemanatee
Yeah, truthfully if they really cared they would. Especially as those are so easy to port over.

and then console gamers would accuse them of abandoning the xbox (specially now with that crap known as kinect)

No they can still release game on the 360 first, just to make people feel better and then port it to the PC. M$ aint dumb, They will still cash in big time if they release Gears 3 on 360 as an "exclusive" and then like 6 months later release it on the PC
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"][QUOTE="bobaban"] Yeah, truthfully if they really cared they would. Especially as those are so easy to port over. J-WOW
and then console gamers would accuse them of abandoning the xbox (specially now with that crap known as kinect)

No they can still release game on the 360 first, just to make people feel better and then port it to the PC. M$ aint dumb, They will still cash in big time if they release Gears 3 on 360 as an "exclusive" and then like 6 months later release it on the PC

yeah because the original xbox isn't criticized for having most of it's exclusives on the PC or anything...oh wait it is

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#40 ChubbyGuy40
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I'd like to see them take GFWL seriously. Competing with Steam and other DD services like Direct2Drive means more sales and awesome deals, which is a win for us PC gamers.

Though I'd be one of the happiest gamers ever if Gears 3 would come to PC.