MS drops 360 price but refurbrished 360 at gamestop $140

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#1 Sonwhy
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MS has droped the price of a brand new 360 down to $150 and then gamestop lowers the price of the refurbrished 360 to $140. Just a $10 drop. I say they are bluffing and in a month or two the 360 will cost less than $120 for a refurbrished one at gamestop.

Anyway I'm going to give onlive a try in the mean time for free.

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#2 xbox360isgr8t
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ms has nothing to do with refurbished pricing by places like eb/gamestop.
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#3 Sonwhy
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ms has nothing to do with refurbished pricing by places like eb/gamestop.xbox360isgr8t

I seriously doubt that. I suppose the current price of $140 for a refurbrished 360 is what the market bears. This is a joke and its more or less commical. LOL

There was $50 price difference between a refurbrished 360 and a new one. Now there is a $10 difference according to Gamestop.

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#4 xbox360isgr8t
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the refurbs are traded in consoles. GS/EB does what they want with them. MS has nothing to do with it.
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#5 Sonwhy
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the refurbs are traded in consoles. GS/EB does what they want with them. MS has nothing to do with it. xbox360isgr8t

Your right and wrong. The refurbs are traded in consoles but GS/EB does not do what they want with them and MS does have something to do with it. The fact is there is so many bad consoles that MS goes back and fixes that it would too hard to not see that there is some type of cycle going on and this a way of selling used 360's to the public from a store.

As shady and low of a company as Gamestop is, I don't have much faith in their ethics. I'm sure that they have something worked out with MS where they are buying up refurbrished 360's thus a reflection of the price. There is just too much a business behind closed doors for MS to not play some type of role in all of this.

It doesn't matter though because in the end the price is gonna come down real quick to around $100.

Another thing that you are losing credit on is that MS only dropped the price by $50 and GS only dropped it by $10. Its so obvious that MS does not want a 360 out on the market for just $100. They used to drop the price by $100 but each time its gets lower and lower they make a smaller and smaller price drop than before.

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[QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"]the refurbs are traded in consoles. GS/EB does what they want with them. MS has nothing to do with it. Sonwhy

Your right and wrong. The refurbs are traded in consoles but GS/EB does not do what they want with them and MS does have something to do with it. The fact is there is so many bad consoles that MS goes back and fixes that it would too hard to not see that there is some type of cycle going on and this a way of selling used 360's to the public from a store.

As shady and low of a company as Gamestop is, I don't have much faith in their ethics. I'm sure that they have something worked out with MS where they are buying up refurbrished 360's thus a reflection of the price. There is just too much a business behind closed doors for MS to not play some type of role in all of this.

It doesn't matter though because in the end the price is gonna come down real quick to around $100.

Another thing that you are losing credit on is that MS only dropped the price by $50 and GS only dropped it by $10. Its so obvious that MS does not want a 360 out on the market for just $100. They used to drop the price by $100 but each time its gets lower and lower they make a smaller and smaller price drop than before.

You're just wrong in so many ways, and the person you quoted was right on both accounts. MS has no call over PreOwned/GS Refurb prices. Why would GameStop lower their price $50 for? When the Arcade is sold out, there will be no more made.. The Arcade/Elite models are not being made any longer. The prices were lowered on the current models to clear stock, just as they did when they dropped the price of the Pro to $249, clearing stock. What Microsoft does have control over is the price of the Microsoft refurbish systems, which were also dropped $50. You can buy a MS refurbed Elite for $199 at GameStop.

GameStop sells the refurb/preowned systems at the price they want to make the profit they want, which honestly isn't as large as many people would believe. You buy something for $60(which is the current trade in value of a 360 console), and then sell it for $139. Out of that $80 'profit' you have made, you have to take into account paying the employee who processed it, paying for the box it was sold in, paying the rent on the building it was stored in(which it could stay in for weeks/months), as well as paying to have the system fixed if it breaks within the first 30 days of ownership. That $80 profit isn't really $80.

The GS price for a preowned/refurb Xbox 360 wont be at $100 for some time yet. (edited to add paragraphics)

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#7 Sonwhy
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[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

[QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"]the refurbs are traded in consoles. GS/EB does what they want with them. MS has nothing to do with it. dotWithShoes

Your right and wrong. The refurbs are traded in consoles but GS/EB does not do what they want with them and MS does have something to do with it. The fact is there is so many bad consoles that MS goes back and fixes that it would too hard to not see that there is some type of cycle going on and this a way of selling used 360's to the public from a store.

As shady and low of a company as Gamestop is, I don't have much faith in their ethics. I'm sure that they have something worked out with MS where they are buying up refurbrished 360's thus a reflection of the price. There is just too much a business behind closed doors for MS to not play some type of role in all of this.

It doesn't matter though because in the end the price is gonna come down real quick to around $100.

Another thing that you are losing credit on is that MS only dropped the price by $50 and GS only dropped it by $10. Its so obvious that MS does not want a 360 out on the market for just $100. They used to drop the price by $100 but each time its gets lower and lower they make a smaller and smaller price drop than before.

You're just wrong in so many ways, and the person you quoted was right on both accounts. MS has no call over PreOwned/GS Refurb prices. Why would GameStop lower their price $50 for? When the Arcade is sold out, there will be no more made.. The Arcade/Elite models are not being made any longer. The prices were lowered on the current models to clear stock, just as they did when they dropped the price of the Pro to $249, clearing stock. What Microsoft does have control over is the price of the Microsoft refurbish systems, which were also dropped $50. You can buy a MS refurbed Elite for $199 at GameStop.

GameStop sells the refurb/preowned systems at the price they want to make the profit they want, which honestly isn't as large as many people would believe. You buy something for $60(which is the current trade in value of a 360 console), and then sell it for $139. Out of that $80 'profit' you have made, you have to take into account paying the employee who processed it, paying for the box it was sold in, paying the rent on the building it was stored in(which it could stay in for weeks/months), as well as paying to have the system fixed if it breaks within the first 30 days of ownership. That $80 profit isn't really $80.

The GS price for a preowned/refurb Xbox 360 wont be at $100 for some time yet. (edited to add paragraphics)

Thats exactly my point is that MS does have control over how much Gamestop is willing to charge per a 360 system that refurbrished. MS does not want a $100 360 on the market whether its new or refurbrished. Less the $50 drop for the new console and $10 drop for a refurbrished console are more than enough evidence that MS is involved in the pricing of the used 360s.

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ACTUALLY gamestop being such a big corporation has their own refurbishment facilities...so No microsoft has no control of gamespot refurbed units.

and wait wait..did you just say the evidence that microsoft controls gamespot pricing on gamestop refurbed units is because they dropped it 50 dollars and gamestop dropped it 10?.......what?! You do know gamestop is one of the worst places to trade stuff in right? with some of the most questionable video game pricing and practices in the game sales part of the industry right?

then pricing the refurb 10 dollars lower is not indicitive of anything on microsofts end specially since your wrong Gamestop as I said is a big enough corperation they have their own refurbishment facilities.

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#9 Sonwhy
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ACTUALLY gamestop being such a big corporation has their own refurbishment facilities...so No microsoft has no control of gamespot refurbed units.

and wait wait..did you just say the evidence that microsoft controls gamespot pricing on gamestop refurbed units is because they dropped it 50 dollars and gamestop dropped it 10?.......what?! You do know gamestop is one of the worst places to trade stuff in right? with some of the most questionable video game pricing and practices in the game sales part of the industry right?

then pricing the refurb 10 dollars lower is not indicitive of anything on microsofts end specially since your wrong Gamestop as I said is a big enough corperation they have their own refurbishment facilities.

WilliamRLBaker

Well if they have their own refurbrishment facilites like you say then I guess they may price the used consoles like they want but with MS having so many used consoles it just doesn't make much since for MS to not sell them to GS. Just too much money to make.

Also, it doesn't really matter because nobody is going to buy a used 360 at that price when they can buy a new one for $10. The price will come down in a month or two......I will bet my house on it.

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I would never buy a refurbished system, especially if the new one is only $10 more

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#11 Sonwhy
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I would never buy a refurbished system, especially if the new one is only $10 more

Mattizzle815

My theory is the **** system is going to break anyway so I might as well buy it as cheaply as I possibly can. I have thought about ebay but I would rather go with a store. Anyway I think $100 360 is coming before the end of the summer.

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if you buy a refurb you will also get that crap gamestop branded wired controller. they sell the good ones off and drop that crappy wired one in the box.

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i don't understand how people can still logically buy an Xbox 360 at this point (unless you already have owned one) and time if they even slightly factor good investments into their decisions.

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ms has nothing to do with this,, this is all gamestop trying to still make money off of idiots thats all
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#16 Sonwhy
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i don't understand how people can still logically buy an Xbox 360 at this point (unless you already have owned one) and time if they even slightly factor good investments into their decisions.

SoRawr2

I'm thinking along the lines of the 360 will probably break after one year of use and if I can get that much use of it than its a win win seeing as I don't mind spending $10 a month to have a gaming machine and then buy 1 or 2 $20 games to keep my interest occupied.

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Wow. Another fail thread by cows thinking MS controls the world.
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#18 SilentlyMad
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Wow this is a bad thread even in SW standards. TC I know it has been said before a few times and yet you still want to argue it but MS does not set used/refurbished prices. It does not matter how big a fan of Sony you are that does not change it either.

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i don't understand how people can still logically buy an Xbox 360 at this point (unless you already have owned one) and time if they even slightly factor good investments into their decisions.

SoRawr2

care to elaborate as to why?

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[QUOTE="SoRawr2"]

i don't understand how people can still logically buy an Xbox 360 at this point (unless you already have owned one) and time if they even slightly factor good investments into their decisions.

CaseyWegner

care to elaborate as to why?

He buys consoles like it's a futures market.
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

ACTUALLY gamestop being such a big corporation has their own refurbishment facilities...so No microsoft has no control of gamespot refurbed units.

and wait wait..did you just say the evidence that microsoft controls gamespot pricing on gamestop refurbed units is because they dropped it 50 dollars and gamestop dropped it 10?.......what?! You do know gamestop is one of the worst places to trade stuff in right? with some of the most questionable video game pricing and practices in the game sales part of the industry right?

then pricing the refurb 10 dollars lower is not indicitive of anything on microsofts end specially since your wrong Gamestop as I said is a big enough corperation they have their own refurbishment facilities.

Sonwhy

Well if they have their own refurbrishment facilites like you say then I guess they may price the used consoles like they want but with MS having so many used consoles it just doesn't make much since for MS to not sell them to GS. Just too much money to make.

Also, it doesn't really matter because nobody is going to buy a used 360 at that price when they can buy a new one for $10. The price will come down in a month or two......I will bet my house on it.

GameStop does indeed have their own refurbishment centers(its in Texas btw), Microsoft has their own refurbishment centers as well. And guess what, MS does indeed sell their refurbished 360s to GameStop(just like they sell the new consoles to GameStop).. and GameStop sells them, with MS warranty(1/3year warranties), for $179 and $199 depending on which model you get(pro/elite).
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[QUOTE="SoRawr2"]

i don't understand how people can still logically buy an Xbox 360 at this point (unless you already have owned one) and time if they even slightly factor good investments into their decisions.

CaseyWegner

care to elaborate as to why?

with a failure rate of 40%, only someone with extremely poor decision making skills would purchase an Xbox 360 (at least right now).

and save the "Jasper consoles don't break as much" line, because if they didn't just about every Xbox 360 forum wouldn't be flooded with overwhleming evidence of Microsoft's QA failure.

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

ACTUALLY gamestop being such a big corporation has their own refurbishment facilities...so No microsoft has no control of gamespot refurbed units.

and wait wait..did you just say the evidence that microsoft controls gamespot pricing on gamestop refurbed units is because they dropped it 50 dollars and gamestop dropped it 10?.......what?! You do know gamestop is one of the worst places to trade stuff in right? with some of the most questionable video game pricing and practices in the game sales part of the industry right?

then pricing the refurb 10 dollars lower is not indicitive of anything on microsofts end specially since your wrong Gamestop as I said is a big enough corperation they have their own refurbishment facilities.

Sonwhy

Well if they have their own refurbrishment facilites like you say then I guess they may price the used consoles like they want but with MS having so many used consoles it just doesn't make much since for MS to not sell them to GS. Just too much money to make.

Also, it doesn't really matter because nobody is going to buy a used 360 at that price when they can buy a new one for $10. The price will come down in a month or two......I will bet my house on it.

Microsoft has many used consoles because people send there's in for repair and end up getting it switched for another sent in console. /post
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#24 darkguy_101
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="SoRawr2"]

i don't understand how people can still logically buy an Xbox 360 at this point (unless you already have owned one) and time if they even slightly factor good investments into their decisions.

SoRawr2

care to elaborate as to why?

with a failure rate of 40%, only someone with extremely poor decision making skills would purchase an Xbox 360 (at least right now).

and save the "Jasper consoles don't break as much" line, because if they didn't just about every Xbox 360 forum wouldn't be flooded with overwhleming evidence of Microsoft's QA failure.


That was years ago, 2006-2008 or something

The Jasper model came in 2009. Pretty much everyone who has gotten a RROD after that has an older model , not a Jasper.

Save your cow arguments for later, they are really annoying

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#25 bphan
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OP is wrong. MS has nothing to do with Gamestop's pricing.

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I'm surprised Sony fans don't complain about the power brick anymore. lord have mercy!

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#27 Jacobistheman
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That is rediculous. Walmart has a 360 for 150 and gives you a free 50 dollar gift card, so it is essentially 100 dollars if you will use the card. It doesn't come with a hard drive but that isn't a big deal, that is still less than 40 dollars.

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[QUOTE="Mattizzle815"]

I would never buy a refurbished system, especially if the new one is only $10 more

Sonwhy

My theory is the **** system is going to break anyway so I might as well buy it as cheaply as I possibly can. I have thought about ebay but I would rather go with a store. Anyway I think $100 360 is coming before the end of the summer.

You could have(or still can) gotten an Arcade for $80-$100 at Target,Walmart, or Amazon, if you count gift cards as money back. I think It's ridiculous to think that there will be a $100 360 by even the end of next year.

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MS has droped the price of a brand new 360 down to $150 and then gamestop lowers the price of the refurbrished 360 to $140. Just a $10 drop. I say they are bluffing and in a month or two the 360 will cost less than $120 for a refurbrished one at gamestop.

Anyway I'm going to give onlive a try in the mean time for free.

Sonwhy

Have you ever been to a Gamestop. They have tons of used games and for the most part, the used games are only $5 less than a brand new copy. Why would their refurbished console sales be any less of a rip off?