MS going head to head with Sony this September:360 Elite will drop to 299$

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=4898&mp=1

Looks like the PS3 slim has some competition.

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Oh snap!

Dang, the $399 ELITE is going to be the same price as the $299 PS3...possibly!

That's going to be sweet...maybe.

This war is just beginning!!!!....if the rumor is to be believed.

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This got me thinking.

What's ELITE about the ELITE, now that the PRO is dead?

Will consumers see a difference between two products at $299, one of which plays Blu-Rays, and one doesn't?

DAAAAAAAAMMMMNNNNNNNN...... just kidding, i didnt even read it but you know thats cool too

Hmm to Blu-Ray or not Blu-ray that is the question?

And you still get more out of your PS3.

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Oh snap!

Dang, the $399 ELITE is going to be the same price as the $299 PS3...possibly!

That's going to be sweet...maybe.

This war is just beginning!!!!....if the rumor is to be believed.

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This got me thinking.

What's ELITE about the ELITE, now that the PRO is dead?

Will consumers see a difference between two products at $299, one of which plays Blu-Rays, and one doesn't?

SolidTy

PlayStation 3 is still the better value.

Free Online, Wi-Fi built in, Blu-Ray, ect

They will need to do more than that. Customers have been waiting for years for a PS3 pricedrop than a 360 countering one.

With both the PS3 and the 360 getting price drops, I wonder what Nintendo is going to do with the Wii. They've finally been able to compete price wise.Haziqonfire

PlayStation 3 is still the better value.

Free Online, Wi-Fi built in, Blu-Ray, ect

They will need to do more than that. Customers have been waiting for years for a PS3 pricedrop than a 360 countering one.

tonitorsi

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]With both the PS3 and the 360 getting price drops, I wonder what Nintendo is going to do with the Wii. They've finally been able to compete price wise.Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

PlayStation 3 is still the better value.

Free Online, Wi-Fi built in, Blu-Ray, ect

They will need to do more than that. Customers have been waiting for years for a PS3 pricedrop than a 360 countering one.

themyth01

Meh, I disagree. A console is a console is a console is a console I will agree with, however.

It has the word "Elite" on the box, so it's a big deal, lol. Actually I don't expect MS to do well so much because of this but I don't think Sony will dominate like most people seem to think, in fact I expect the 360 to outsell the ps3 again before the year ends. themyth01

I meant this:

With both the PS3 and the 360 getting price drops, I wonder what Nintendo is going to do with the Wii. They've finally been able to compete price wise.Haziqonfire

I don't think Nintendo will go for a price drop. The Wii isn't really in competition with the PS3 & 360.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]With both the PS3 and the 360 getting price drops, I wonder what Nintendo is going to do with the Wii. They've finally been able to compete price wise.hakanakumono

I don't think Nintendo will go for a price drop. The Wii isn't really in competition with the PS3 & 360.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]With both the PS3 and the 360 getting price drops, I wonder what Nintendo is going to do with the Wii. They've finally been able to compete price wise.Haziqonfire

I don't think Nintendo will go for a price drop. The Wii isn't really in competition with the PS3 & 360.

Any potential customers Nintendo has aren't ones who are going to buy a priced down PS3 or 360 insead.

Any potential customers Nintendo has aren't ones who are going to buy a priced down PS3 or 360 insead.

hakanakumono

They might be. Both companies are trying to get a share of Nintendo's market - With Natal and those 'AHEMmotes' that sony has - its pretty clear.

Bundle the elite with a copy of forza 3 and I might consider it.

Bundle the elite with a copy of forza 3 and I might consider it.

PSdual_wielder

Hmm to Blu-Ray or not Blu-ray that is the question?

2beers_in_hand

[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

Bundle the elite with a copy of forza 3 and I might consider it.

Stevo_the_gamer

Not really a halo fan here, but hey if there's one more game being given out for free, why not.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Any potential customers Nintendo has aren't ones who are going to buy a priced down PS3 or 360 insead.

Haziqonfire

They might be. Both companies are trying to get a share of Nintendo's market - With Natal and those 'AHEMmotes' that sony has - its pretty clear.

Sony and MS's motion technology looks good, but at the same time they're not going all out. Expect a little more support than Eyetoy last year, but not a huge motion focus shift. MS and Sony's motion entrace will probably kill the motion market anyways.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

Bundle the elite with a copy of forza 3 and I might consider it.

PSdual_wielder

Not really a halo fan here, but hey if there's one more game being given out for free, why not.

Price doesn't sell consoles, games do. The PS3 didn't fail because of it's price. This may be hard for some people to understand.

The 360 has more than sufficient games to compete head to head against the PS3.

Its gettin real real now man. Both companies are completly lettin loose. This is why i love the console wars. ENd the end the gamers win, and it makes for an interesting show.

[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Hell, bundle it with Forza 3 and ODST and they have themselves a winner.Stevo_the_gamer

Not really a halo fan here, but hey if there's one more game being given out for free, why not.

Better for me = better for everyone. Hey you keep me happy, and no one dies, are we clear? :P

Price doesn't sell consoles, games do. The PS3 didn't fail because of it's price. This may be hard for some people to understand.

The 360 has more than sufficient games to compete head to head against the PS3.

gamecubepad

Price doesn't sell consoles, games do. The PS3 didn't fail because of it's price. This may be hard for some people to understand.

The 360 has more than sufficient games to compete head to head against the PS3.

gamecubepad

No, I'm sorry to say it, but you're wrong, it was PRICE, it was always PRICE.

There are many variables, like you mentioned, but PRICE is the NUMBER ONE CATALYST FOR MASS MARKET SALES.

PRICE will be and will always be the BIGGEST FACTOR in Console sales, so remember this, that way in five years, we won't be saying the same things about the next systems.

The question is, is the $299 PRICE low enough for LARGE MASS MARKET Penetration? I don't know, probably not. We'll see.

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Price doesn't sell consoles, games do. The PS3 didn't fail because of it's price. This may be hard for some people to understand.

The 360 has more than sufficient games to compete head to head against the PS3.

blazer224

That's correct.

That's the Mass Market for ya,

[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

Bundle the elite with a copy of forza 3 and I might consider it.

Stevo_the_gamer

Hell, just bundle it with the word Halo on it and it will probably sell a million a month...

Why are people mentioning bluray, when its clear that when people make the decision to chose PS3 because of bluray.............they are less likely to buy many games?? I mean, of course users on gaming sites (like me) bought it for games, but i know a few "older folks" who wanted it for the bluray player, and they have 2 games in 3 years for it :| Im not saying the slim wont outsell the Elite (it probably will for a bit) im saying 90%, gamers choose games.............not bluray. And those that choose bluray............dont buy many games............isnt that a bad thing?? ..............to buy it because of bluray?? :?

Why are people mentioning bluray, when its clear that when people make the decision to chose PS3 because of bluray.............they are less likely to buy many games?? I mean, of course users on gaming sites (like me) bought it for games, but i know a few "older folks" who wanted it for the bluray player, and they have 2 games in 3 years for it :| Im not saying the slim wont outsell the Elite (it probably will for a bit) im saying 90%, gamers choose games.............not bluray. And those that choose bluray............dont buy many games............isnt that a bad thing?? ..............to buy it because of bluray?? :?

navyguy21

I never really understood this argument. A console sale is a console sale and, I for one, bought mine for BOTH.

Besides, Sony is responsible for the inception of Blu-Ray. If you buy games and movies they win twice.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

Why are people mentioning bluray, when its clear that when people make the decision to chose PS3 because of bluray.............they are less likely to buy many games?? I mean, of course users on gaming sites (like me) bought it for games, but i know a few "older folks" who wanted it for the bluray player, and they have 2 games in 3 years for it :| Im not saying the slim wont outsell the Elite (it probably will for a bit) im saying 90%, gamers choose games.............not bluray. And those that choose bluray............dont buy many games............isnt that a bad thing?? ..............to buy it because of bluray?? :?

Ryan_Som

I never really understood this argument. A console sale is a console sale and, I for one, bought mine for BOTH.

Besides, Sony is responsible for the inception of Blu-Ray. If you buy games and movies they win twice.

True, but in the CONSOLE business, the vast majority of revenue comes from software, not hardware sales. And when people buy your console as a movie player FIRST, then thats its primary use. It would be like people buying 360 because it was a DVD player, and then, using it mostly as a DVD player. Thats a lost investment for MS because they sell consoles at a loss (initially) and make money back on software..........just like sony. When the reverse happens, you lose revenue. The fee for deving a game is 10x higher for using the bluray format. Bluray is a long term investment for sony, PS3 software is not. The average lifespan of a console (and i mean dev support) is 5 years. Where does the majority of support of the PS2 come from?? Exactly my point. 3rd parties dont support it like they do 360/PS3 because its not a current gen console, and is not financially viable for them. So your window to sell software is smaller than the window for making money on bluray movies. Bluray will be around for years, and years (until DD takes over) So, at this point, i say selling it as a GAMING machine is more important than pusing bluray...........and having people buy it as one. Im NOT saying PS3 isnt a good console at all (i shouldnt have to say this, but fanboys are...........well......fanatical :P )

Hey...the headset in that ad is the old kind...hmm...are they bringing that design back?

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=4898&mp=1

Looks like the PS3 slim has some competition.

clubsammich91

Price doesn't sell consoles, games do. The PS3 didn't fail because of it's price. This may be hard for some people to understand.

The 360 has more than sufficient games to compete head to head against the PS3.

gamecubepad

[QUOTE="gamecubepad "]

Price doesn't sell consoles, games do. The PS3 didn't fail because of it's price. This may be hard for some people to understand.

The 360 has more than sufficient games to compete head to head against the PS3.

SolidTy

No, I'm sorry to say it, but you're wrong, it was PRICE, it was always PRICE.

There are many variables, like you mentioned, but PRICE is the NUMBER ONE CATALYST FOR MASS MARKET SALES.

PRICE will be and will always be the BIGGEST FACTOR in Console sales, so remember this, that way in five years, we won't be saying the same things about the next systems.

The question is, is the $299 PRICE low enough for LARGE MASS MARKET Penetration? I don't know, probably not. We'll see.

Nope. People were just as willing to purchase a PS3 in it's first year as they were the 360 in it's first as demonstrated by the 1st year sales of each system. The PS3 has actually sold at the same pace as the 360 up to this point. Where's the price factor at work in that stat?

The only reason the PS3 didn't sell like the PS2 was that it lacked horsepower. If Sony had delivered on it's 1080p 60/120fps 4D BS then the PS3 would have destroyed the 360 and maybe even the Wii. When Sony said in 2005 that PS3 games will run 1080p 60fps and look like this...

and then delivered stuff like this running at 720p...

...people saw the PS3 was a joke and the Playstation 3 namebrand was ruined.

To further demonstrate my point I cite the PS2 vs the DC, GC, and Xbox. The DC was only $99 when the PS2 came out and the PS2 destroyed it. The GameCube released at cheaper than the PS2 and didn't stand a chance. In 2003 the GameCube dropped to $99 and was annihilated by the $199 PS2. Xbox was $199 in 2002 same as the PS2 and once again the PS2 outpaced it like 4 to 1. Ultimately it was the games that made the PS2 what it was.

Same thing with the Genesis and SNES.

Once again, if price is the focal point of console sales then why does the Wii consistently ousell the 360, which is cheaper and offers 7x the power, dvd playback, etc.? It's the games.

In the PS3's case, the downfall came because Sony was lying about the power of the PS3 and there was a consumer backlash when everbody started seeing what a PS3 could really do. Not to mention the severe lack of games up until MGS4.

My 2 bits, anyway.

And what will that do exactly? People will get a PS3 instead of the Elite. Luckily they still have the cheaper Arcade.Floppy_Jim

PlayStation 3 is still the better value.

Free Online, Wi-Fi built in, Blu-Ray, ect

They will need to do more than that. Customers have been waiting for years for a PS3 pricedrop than a 360 countering one.

tonitorsi

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Price doesn't sell consoles, games do. The PS3 didn't fail because of it's price. This may be hard for some people to understand.

The 360 has more than sufficient games to compete head to head against the PS3.

ermacness

The PS3 has still kept pace with the 360 up to this point. That's how I came up with that. THEIR SALES HAVE BEEN EQUAL IN THE SAME PERIOD OF TIME and the PS3 even had a delayed European launch. Not to mention a few million people that have bought multiple 360s due to RROD.

It's a very real possibility that the PS3 has infact outsold the 360 in the same period of time. I'd say it has.

[QUOTE="gamecubepad "]

Price doesn't sell consoles, games do. The PS3 didn't fail because of it's price. This may be hard for some people to understand.

The 360 has more than sufficient games to compete head to head against the PS3.

SolidTy

No, I'm sorry to say it, but you're wrong, it was PRICE, it was always PRICE.

There are many variables, like you mentioned, but PRICE is the NUMBER ONE CATALYST FOR MASS MARKET SALES.

PRICE will be and will always be the BIGGEST FACTOR in Console sales, so remember this, that way in five years, we won't be saying the same things about the next systems.

The question is, is the $299 PRICE low enough for LARGE MASS MARKET Penetration? I don't know, probably not. We'll see.

Raise your hand if you love price wars! :D

Anyway, there sure are alot of cows that are certain the PS3 will contionously outsell the 360 now. Lets just see, man i love this part of the war.

I hope it stays this competitive right till the end like the SNES vs Megadrive war. In the end, its better for us.

And you still get more out of your PS3.

hakanakumono

the ps3 is a way better buy at this price. hell, i might finally replace the one i sold.