Ms is getting kinda desprate..

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#1 Ace132
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Seriously,They're acting desprate,they made their xbox cheaper than Wii,MS is trying to kill Sony in sales,but litterally Fails,i know it has bad sales,but Japan ignores them,PS3 and Wii will always sell in their country more

seriously,their desprate,do you agree?

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#2 Espada12
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Only desparate to get a foothold in japan.. not anywhere else.
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#3 Skittles_McGee
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So making a system cheaper after its been out for a while classifies as desperate? Didn't Sony drop the PS3's price recently? :|
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#4 Squall18
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I agree with you to some extent.

You've forgot the fact that due to tales of Vesperia the 360 is literally sold out in japan, and MS stated that at the latest they would get mor ToV bundles and such later on in september. Plus with infinite undiscovery, september may be an alright month.

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#5 superjim42
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well when a business is dying out and losing alot of business in a certain region.....what is the logical thing for them to do?

which is why ms is trying to get more sales by slashing prices dramatically.

although i dont see it happenin for them in japan. they do not have the games to attract the gamers apart from the recent hit tales of vesperia

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Seriously,They're acting desprate,they made their xbox cheaper than Wii,MS is trying to kill Sony in sales,but litterally Fails,i know it has bad sales,but Japan ignores them,PS3 and Wii will always sell in their country more

seriously,their desprate,do you agree?

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#7 DanteSuikoden
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Desperate in Japan like the other guy said
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#8 xsubtownerx
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They want to do well in japan. Me thinks this price cut in japan will now give the PS3 a run for it's money in Japan.
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#9 killerfist
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In japan, yes

I think they're losing a huge amount of money over there.

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MS is trying hard to sell in Japan, and its normal to reduce prices in order to attract customers... i think it is the best time for the price reduction with some good RPG's being released and other to follow... but if this doesnt help MS i really think they should give up on Japan and invest their time/money towards the US/EU markets...

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They've hardly cut the price by much. I think they're just trying to appeal to the casual gamer by making the arcade cheaper than a wii. They've no real need to be desperate; just because the competition is selling more doesn't mean you're doing badly. Their xbox is still bringing in the mulah.
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If a company can lower the price on its product and still make a profit. Why wouldn't they do it? I mean not only are they still making money, but the opportunity is there for new customers. I don't see that being desperate, but I do see it as being smart.
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Seriously you should just have removed the No and left the No because I'm a lemming. That's the truth. It's either yes or no I'm a lemming.

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[QUOTE="Ace132"]

Seriously,They're acting desprate,they made their xbox cheaper than Wii,MS is trying to kill Sony in sales,but litterally Fails,i know it has bad sales,but Japan ignores them,PS3 and Wii will always sell in their country more

seriously,their desprate,do you agree?

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whats so serious about series ?why so serious?
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I would say NO. They are playing to win. Well they will not beat the Wii in sales, beating the PS3 would be a good feat for them. They are just taking the war to the next level.

With that being said I did find their new add campaign funny.

Take out the Xbox controllers and put in Wiimotes and you would have half of Nintendo's adds.

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#18 Ace132
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I would say NO. They are playing to win. Well they will not beat the Wii in sales, beating the PS3 would be a good feat for them. They are just taking the war to the next level.

With that being said I did find their new add campaign funny.

Take out the Xbox controllers and put in Wiimotes and you would have half of Nintendo's adds.

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they are desprate in Japan,crazy,but MS never learns :roll:
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They want to do well in japan. Me thinks this price cut in japan will now give the PS3 a run for it's money in Japan.xsubtownerx

The PS3 has sold over twice as much as the 360 in half in the time. I don't think it will happen.

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#20 kingdre
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They want Japan that bad. It's hard to win in sales worldwide if a whole country is buying the other company's product.
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#21 rzepak
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Does actuall effort make MS desperate? Nope not really. Right now 360 is the next gen console for RPGs. It is cheap. All good incentives for japanese gamers to buy a 360. Its not selling becouse its an outsider. Sony and Nintendo are established companys in Japan.
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#22 HarlockJC
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they are desprate in Japan,crazy,but MS never learns :roll:Ace132

What should they learn? To give up and stop trying? IMO that not desperate they are trying to make sound business moves. They don't have to win this gen. Sometimes things like this take a long time. The 360 has sold more than the Xbox. Which means more people in Japan like it more than the Xbox. Right now this puts them in a little better spot for the next system to come out. Then if they can get the next system to sell better than the 360. You get the point. Every system that sales past the original Xbox number is a win for MS.

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#23 TheRealMC01
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So it's kinda like how Sony dropped the price on the ps3 several times in just 1 year for the U.S.
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#24 Ace132
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So it's kinda like how Sony dropped the price on the ps3 several times in just 1 year for the U.S.TheRealMC01
yes,but they didnt price-drop THAT much,especially in Japan
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#25 Ragnarok1051
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So it's kinda like how Sony dropped the price on the ps3 several times in just 1 year for the U.S.TheRealMC01

Kinda of like how lemmings bashed Sony for doing?

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they are desprate in Japan,crazy,but MS never learns :roll:

yeah remember kids, if you can't do something in life, then completely give up. :D

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#27 KGB32
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Seriously,They're acting desprate,they made their xbox cheaper than Wii,MS is trying to kill Sony in sales,but litterally Fails,i know it has bad sales,but Japan ignores them,PS3 and Wii will always sell in their country more

seriously,their desprate,do you agree?

Ace132

so you are saying that because MS did a price drop, they are accused of being desperate? didnt sony drop their price as well?

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#28 pakman3000
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Didn't Sony have price cuts and discontinue systems within the 1st year? Hardly desperation by MS.
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Seriously,They're acting desprate,they made their xbox cheaper than Wii,MS is trying to kill Sony in sales,but litterally Fails,i know it has bad sales,but Japan ignores them,PS3 and Wii will always sell in their country more

seriously,their desprate,do you agree?

Ace132

I would say it's more Nintendo being greedy for not dropping the price of the console they have been making a killing on since launch due to using cheap hardware compared to the price they were selling it for. The 360 has been out longer also so its obvious they are going to have more price drop's though, but Nintendo seriously needs to drop the price for the Wii.

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#30 vashkey
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I'd probably care if I were in Japan.
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#31 angelkimne
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they are desprate in Japan,crazy,but MS never learns :roll:Ace132

they are desprate in Japan,crazy,but MS never learns :roll:Ace132
It does seem a bit strange. But they are one of the biggest and best buisness's in the world.

I'm sure if their Execs and market analysts say the price cut is worth it, then it probably is.

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they make it cheaper, yet people complain.
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I don't think it's desperate, they're just trying to get the Japanese to give an American console a chance and now there should be more of an incentive to do so
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#35 Ace132
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I don't think it's desperate, they're just trying to get the Japanese to give an American console a chance and now there should be more of an incentive to do soVulcanMage119
yea but,Japanese ppl prefer their own consoles (wii and PS3) i doubt MS will change that,i dont even think xbox even sold n japan
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[QUOTE="VulcanMage119"]I don't think it's desperate, they're just trying to get the Japanese to give an American console a chance and now there should be more of an incentive to do soAce132
yea but,Japanese ppl prefer their own consoles (wii and PS3) i doubt MS will change that,i dont even think xbox even sold n japan

lol yeah you're very right it completely tanked, that's what I was saying about the Japanese, they do tend to buy their own native product more. I guess since MS is making money on the 360 hand over fist here, they can spare a bit to try to persuade the japenese market a little for next gen. Will Japan go for it? tough to say (hint: I doubt it) but I think they should now

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#37 Ace132
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[QUOTE="Ace132"][QUOTE="VulcanMage119"]I don't think it's desperate, they're just trying to get the Japanese to give an American console a chance and now there should be more of an incentive to do soVulcanMage119

yea but,Japanese ppl prefer their own consoles (wii and PS3) i doubt MS will change that,i dont even think xbox even sold n japan

lol yeah you're very right it completely tanked, that's what I was saying about the Japanese, they do tend to buy their own native product more. I guess since MS is making money on the 360 hand over fist here, they can spare a bit to try to persuade the japenese market a little for next gen. Will Japan go for it? tough to say (hint: I doubt it) but I think they should now

lol,i wouldnt be suprised if it drops to 100 dollars,but if they go lower than that,M$,desparate,they're like beggining to get japaense ppl to play their games,lol

did Xbox1 even sell in Japan?

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#38 VulcanMage119
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[QUOTE="VulcanMage119"]

[QUOTE="Ace132"][QUOTE="VulcanMage119"]I don't think it's desperate, they're just trying to get the Japanese to give an American console a chance and now there should be more of an incentive to do soAce132

yea but,Japanese ppl prefer their own consoles (wii and PS3) i doubt MS will change that,i dont even think xbox even sold n japan

lol yeah you're very right it completely tanked, that's what I was saying about the Japanese, they do tend to buy their own native product more. I guess since MS is making money on the 360 hand over fist here, they can spare a bit to try to persuade the japenese market a little for next gen. Will Japan go for it? tough to say (hint: I doubt it) but I think they should now

lol,i wouldnt be suprised if it drops to 100 dollars,but if they go lower than that,M$,desparate,they're like beggining to get japaense ppl to play their games,lol

did Xbox1 even sell in Japan?

I'm not too sure of the numbers but I think it was like 100k sold? for real. about that low. If it drops any lower, I'll say it's desperate. MS is just the underdog now and is trying to get someone to say, wow I could get this for less than the wii. Now the most important question is, do the japanese play Halo?

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I would say it's more Nintendo being greedy for not dropping the price of the console they have been making a killing on since launch due to using cheap hardware compared to the price they were selling it for. The 360 has been out longer also so its obvious they are going to have more price drop's though, but Nintendo seriously needs to drop the price for the Wii. justforlotr2004

It is offer and demand. Do you think that the PS3 and 360 got price drops because MS and Sony aren't greedy? Nope. If they were selling as good as the Wii they wouldn't have do it. Maye the 360 one (2.5 years is more than mandatory an price cut, even if you sell tha candy), but nothing more.

The Wii is selling extremely well, and it is relative "young", so, actually, there's no reason for them to make a price drop.

Actually, considering that Ebay sells the Wii at a much higher price (and tons of people buy it) the logical thing for Nintendo from a business perspective (offer and demand) would be a price rise. And I'm sure they know it.

So I wouldn't call them "too greedy".

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yeah the thinkx360 is good. yeah right
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My question is, why do you care?
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I think they are trying to make a play in a market where they have little to nearly none of the share. Was SE desperate when they decided to put FFXIII on the 360? No. They want to get a bigger piece of the pie from a group of consumers that they see potential in. Desperate would be if they made it $79.99 or something like that.
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they make it cheaper, yet people complain.EuroMafia

Its silly.

Dropping the console price is not desparate, its good buisseness sense. If they van afford to drop the price of a console and still make a profit thats pretty good.

And about trying to get japan to buy their console. Of course they will. What sane company ignores a large market?

Its them trying to make money, which is in no way desparate.

I must admit though this is a series thread :P

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[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]they make it cheaper, yet people complain.NinjaMunkey01

Its silly.

Dropping the console price is not desparate, its good buisseness sense. If they van afford to drop the price of a console and still make a profit thats pretty good.

And about trying to get japan to buy their console. Of course they will. What sane company ignores a large market?

Its them trying to make money, which is in no way desparate.

I must admit though this is a series thread :P

This.

Back to topic, I hope it will help to rise a little the poor 360's sales in Japan.

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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

I would say NO. They are playing to win. Well they will not beat the Wii in sales, beating the PS3 would be a good feat for them. They are just taking the war to the next level.

With that being said I did find their new add campaign funny.

Take out the Xbox controllers and put in Wiimotes and you would have half of Nintendo's adds.

Ace132

they are desprate in Japan,crazy,but MS never learns :roll:

what do you mean, MS never learns. their market share from this year compared to last year is vastly improved. i'm not saying they are going to be the top seller, but they took a very large bite out of sony this gen.

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[QUOTE="TheRealMC01"]So it's kinda like how Sony dropped the price on the ps3 several times in just 1 year for the U.S.Ace132
yes,but they didnt price-drop THAT much,especially in Japan

didn't the ps3 start out in japan much lower in price than in the US?

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only ms japan
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They want to do well in japan. Me thinks this price cut in japan will now give the PS3 a run for it's money in Japan.xsubtownerx

i have to disagree with the last part. giving the ps3 a run for the money no... i believe the 360 has always been cheap in japan. if ms really thinks doing a price drop in japan is going to give anyone a run for the money than ms is doing some serious wishful thinking. tov was the only game that came out for 360 owners in japan this year. i think lo came out at the end of 07. it sold 100k the first week and shot down to 19 the next. if tov was in huge demand like ms claims then software would not be so low. i think ms is doing a good job but really it may be too late.

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Seriously,They're acting desprate,they made their xbox cheaper than Wii,MS is trying to kill Sony in sales,but litterally Fails,i know it has bad sales,but Japan ignores them,PS3 and Wii will always sell in their country more

seriously,their desprate,do you agree?

Ace132
Maybe in Japan! I think sony is desperate everywhere...