MS making dedicated Graphics Department for Xbox 360.

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#1 Bus-A-Bus
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Rumor is MS is making some sort of graphics department with engineers who will make sure every game pushes system...

http://www.gameguru.in/microsoft-xbox-360/2010/06/firebird-studios-dedicated-graphics-department-for-xbox-360/

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I would wait for a source from a trusted site to confirm that before posting it here.
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#3 kolkov01
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X10 is just around the corner, I say we wait until then
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That's silly. You dont have to "max out" a system with every game you make. Some of the best gamesI have played and still play are older games.

If they really just want a "OMG lookie at the graphics!" game, just make another shooter or action adventure game with small areas and bloated texture/polygon counts. Then we can stand around and go "hay this is the best looking game ever.... I'm playing in a 10x10 room but hay, it looks great!"

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That's silly. You dont have to "max out" a system with every game you make. Some of the best gamesI have played and still play are older games.

If they really just want a "OMG lookie at the graphics!" game, just make another shooter or action adventure game with small areas and bloated texture/polygon counts. Then we can stand around and go "hay this is the best looking game ever.... I'm playing in a 10x10 room but hay, it looks great!"

FragTycoon
completely agree, there has been far too much emphasis on graphics this gen and not enough on gameplay, dragon age has some of the worst graphics for an RPG this gen, but it's the best RPG of this gen IMO, a classice example of how games are better when you focus on gameplay over graphics, mass effect 2 comes on 2 disks and has brilliant graphics, but it doesn't touch dragon age.
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Makes sense. Sony's had the ICE team doing this kind of thing for a few years now aparently. Although I would have thought MS would have something like this already.

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Makes sense. Sony's had the ICE team doing this kind of thing for a few years now aparently. Although I would have thought MS would have something like this already.

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so Sony is ICE and Microsoft is Fire? can't we all just get along :lol:
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lol, i totally beleive that, after hearin about the custom engine for Halo reach, Halo reach will be the new gfx king, MS will destroy Sony's games with its new tech., MS shall use the DX 10 features of the x360 GPU.....etc

i bet if any one of these rumors delivers, the first two were proven wrong already, we shall see about the others.

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lol, i totally beleive that, after hearin about the custom engine for Halo reach, Halo reach will be the new gfx king, MS will destroy Sony's games with its new tech., MS shall use the DX 10 features of the x360 GPU.....etc

i bet if any one of these rumors delivers, the first two were proven wrong already, we shall see about the others.

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EPIC already used certain DX10 features available in the xenos in gears 2, didn't improve thing much
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[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

Rumor is MS is making some sort of graphics department with engineers who will make sure every game pushes system...

http://www.gameguru.in/microsoft-xbox-360/2010/06/firebird-studios-dedicated-graphics-department-for-xbox-360/

that would be awesome. hopefully its true remember in less than a week X10 will have came. I'll bet my money that they'll announce it there.
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to people that say this is dumb, I think M just doesn't want to fall behiend in graphics in terms of sony vs MS. it'd make the 360 look bad, beside a I doubt the studios will suddenly get lazy about the game now that graphics are there. only good can come from this, I was really bummed about MS's closing down studios. now they oen 3?343 firebird and a natal dev. MS actually seems to be pumping money behiend its game division now.

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That site seems to be inferring an awful lot just from looking at two employees job descriptions on linkedin... :?

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to people that say this is dumb, I think M just doesn't want to fall behiend in graphics in terms of sony vs MS. it'd make the 360 look bad, beside a I doubt the studios will suddenly get lazy about the game now that graphics are there. only good can come from this, I was really bummed about MS's closing down studios. now they oen 3?343 firebird and a natal dev. MS actually seems to be pumping money behiend its game division now.

mayceV

Considering how long it takes to make a sizable game, there wouldn't be a noticeable change for at least two years anyways.

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That's silly. You dont have to "max out" a system with every game you make. Some of the best gamesI have played and still play are older games.

If they really just want a "OMG lookie at the graphics!" game, just make another shooter or action adventure game with small areas and bloated texture/polygon counts. Then we can stand around and go "hay this is the best looking game ever.... I'm playing in a 10x10 room but hay, it looks great!"

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True, but it looks like they have no choice but to compete with Sony, who seem to do nothing but push graphics this gen.
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Rumor is MS is making some sort of graphics department with engineers who will make sure every game pushes system...

http://www.gameguru.in/microsoft-xbox-360/2010/06/firebird-studios-dedicated-graphics-department-for-xbox-360/

Bus-A-Bus

That'll be good for the 360 owners. Hopefully they'll match sony exclusives which look a generation ahead of any 360 games. We'll see what happens with Reach.

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lol, i totally beleive that, after hearin about the custom engine for Halo reach, Halo reach will be the new gfx king, MS will destroy Sony's games with its new tech., MS shall use the DX 10 features of the x360 GPU.....etc

i bet if any one of these rumors delivers, the first two were proven wrong already, we shall see about the others.

2mrw
Dude, don't dig your grave. We've all seen how Halo Reach looks, and it looks great and a big improvement over Halo 3/ODST but in no way, shape or form can it be considered "Graphics King'. Sure, I understand it's still got a ways to go, and I admit that it will get some polish and definitely look better, but don't expect day & night level of changes.
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#17 Anjunaddict
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[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

Rumor is MS is making some sort of graphics department with engineers who will make sure every game pushes system...

http://www.gameguru.in/microsoft-xbox-360/2010/06/firebird-studios-dedicated-graphics-department-for-xbox-360/

gamewhat

That'll be good for the 360 owners. Hopefully they'll match sony exclusives which look a generation ahead of any 360 games. We'll see what happens with Reach.

There are only a few PS3 exclusives that look the best (U2, KZ2 etc) but they do not in any way look a generation ahead of 360 games. Please...
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[QUOTE="gamewhat"]

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

Rumor is MS is making some sort of graphics department with engineers who will make sure every game pushes system...

http://www.gameguru.in/microsoft-xbox-360/2010/06/firebird-studios-dedicated-graphics-department-for-xbox-360/

That'll be good for the 360 owners. Hopefully they'll match sony exclusives which look a generation ahead of any 360 games. We'll see what happens with Reach.

a gen ahead?yeah CGI looks better than Kz2 and U2. and nex gen will look like CGI movie (beowulf, 9,ect.)
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[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

That's silly. You dont have to "max out" a system with every game you make. Some of the best gamesI have played and still play are older games.

If they really just want a "OMG lookie at the graphics!" game, just make another shooter or action adventure game with small areas and bloated texture/polygon counts. Then we can stand around and go "hay this is the best looking game ever.... I'm playing in a 10x10 room but hay, it looks great!"

delta3074

completely agree, there has been far too much emphasis on graphics this gen and not enough on gameplay, dragon age has some of the worst graphics for an RPG this gen, but it's the best RPG of this gen IMO, a ****ce example of how games are better when you focus on gameplay over graphics, mass effect 2 comes on 2 disks and has brilliant graphics, but it doesn't touch dragon age.

umm.... thats just wrong...

do I need to post some screens of Dragon Age on my rig?

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#20 moistsandwich
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[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

Rumor is MS is making some sort of graphics department with engineers who will make sure every game pushes system...

http://www.gameguru.in/microsoft-xbox-360/2010/06/firebird-studios-dedicated-graphics-department-for-xbox-360/

gamewhat

That'll be good for the 360 owners. Hopefully they'll match sony exclusives which look a generation ahead of any 360 games. We'll see what happens with Reach.

wow... people are so deluded.

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#21 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

That's silly. You dont have to "max out" a system with every game you make. Some of the best gamesI have played and still play are older games.

If they really just want a "OMG lookie at the graphics!" game, just make another shooter or action adventure game with small areas and bloated texture/polygon counts. Then we can stand around and go "hay this is the best looking game ever.... I'm playing in a 10x10 room but hay, it looks great!"

moistsandwich

completely agree, there has been far too much emphasis on graphics this gen and not enough on gameplay, dragon age has some of the worst graphics for an RPG this gen, but it's the best RPG of this gen IMO, a ****ce example of how games are better when you focus on gameplay over graphics, mass effect 2 comes on 2 disks and has brilliant graphics, but it doesn't touch dragon age.

umm.... thats just wrong...

do I need to post some screens of Dragon Age on my rig?

you have to remember, i have only played it on the 360, and it has shed loads of jaggies
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[QUOTE="moistsandwich"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]completely agree, there has been far too much emphasis on graphics this gen and not enough on gameplay, dragon age has some of the worst graphics for an RPG this gen, but it's the best RPG of this gen IMO, a ****ce example of how games are better when you focus on gameplay over graphics, mass effect 2 comes on 2 disks and has brilliant graphics, but it doesn't touch dragon age.delta3074

umm.... thats just wrong...

do I need to post some screens of Dragon Age on my rig?

you have to remember, i have only played it on the 360, and it has shed loads of jaggies

ah okay.

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The only reason I see for something like this, is MS' devs are having problems creating engines specifically for the 360, otherwise, this really isn't needed, games don't need "OMG GRAFIX KING!!11!!eleven!!" to be a great game and I'm a big PC Gamer.