MS Takes Chip out of Natal

http://kotaku.com/5442458/report-microsoft-drops-natal-chip

I wonder what the price will be now. I guess this is good news for the consumer.

http://kotaku.com/5442458/report-microsoft-drops-natal-chip

I wonder what the price will be now. I guess this is good news for the consumer.

akira2465

"Patching up older games to run with the new hardware now looks rather unlikely unless they have the CPU time to spare, but hopefully this will serve to focus developers on Natal-specific concepts as opposed to revisiting old classics."

Not looking so good...

Good Luck, Natal!

*Salutes*

MS takes chip out and puts in pretzel. :P

What's it all mean - I dunno.

It will definitely make it a lot more affordable, but now, the Natal accessory/add-on will feed of the 360's power instead of its own, which creates a problem when you are trying to run games that already reach the limits of the 360ULTIMATEZWARRIO

Natal Fit is the only kind of game that will work with this thing.Odrec

Hm?? not really smart you don't take a dedicated processor out of a thing and then expect it to still work as advertised via software alone.

But i never thought natal had a chance any ways, it was simply something microsoft announced and i thought hey if it works then cool and another stab at sony...doesn't look like either natal or sony's new fangled wands will be working much as advertised now...pity.

[QUOTE="Odrec"]Natal Fit is the only kind of game that will work with this thing.delta3074

[QUOTE="Odrec"]Natal Fit is the only kind of game that will work with this thing.delta3074

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Odrec"]Natal Fit is the only kind of game that will work with this thing.Odrec

It will definitely make it a lot more affordable, but now, the Natal accessory/add-on will feed of the 360's power instead of its own, which creates a problem when you are trying to run games that already reach the limits of the 360ULTIMATEZWARRIO

[QUOTE="Odrec"][QUOTE="delta3074"]do you think you could at least attempt to post something constructive to the topic instead of your constant, completely baseless, bashing of the 360delta3074

sorry, but you have to understand, i am probably the most dissapointed person on this board at this news, i was really looking forward to what natal could do, not just for gaming either, now in one fell swoop MS have demoted it to a generic motion controller,like SONY's wand or the wiimote, thoroughly dissapointing, MS is now -1 natal customerdelta3074

[QUOTE="Odrec"][QUOTE="delta3074"]do you think you could at least attempt to post something constructive to the topic instead of your constant, completely baseless, bashing of the 360delta3074

They're doing a cheap job and rushing it out just like the 360. Expect problems.Parasomniac

[QUOTE="Parasomniac"]They're doing a cheap job and rushing it out just like the 360. Expect problems.savagetwinkie

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Odrec"]Natal Fit is the only kind of game that will work with this thing.WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="delta3074"]do you think you could at least attempt to post something constructive to the topic instead of your constant, completely baseless, bashing of the 360wayne_kar

sorry no, when a company shows all this footage *which was often simulated images* i take that as a promise of what a thing is capable.
I mean hell they pimped the one johnny kid simulation and it turned out that was fake. so no i take every thing said to me at 2008 or 2009 e3 as a promise of what they will strive to do and now we are told they gimp them selves before they even release.

As for that it doesn't matter on promises simple logic dictates. Natal before with software and chip would be able to do stuff that natal with software alone is not capable of this is a simple fact of logic. Natal has now become trash to me, its become less then it was before.

MS takes chip out and puts in pretzel. :P

What's it all mean - I dunno.

They went the cheap route when first releasing the 360 and what happened? RROD. Will they every learn? They say most 360 games dont use 100% of the 360s proccessing power, but what if a game does and wants to use natal? They are screwed. Whatever, i never thought it was going to do well anyways, i doubt the generic games that come out for it will use 20% of 360s power.

Hey don't worry xbox owners it will come with a three year warranty ;)

[QUOTE="wayne_kar"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] but he has a point, as it is now with no dedicated chip processor in the thing...we can't expect the same promises as before from natal its just not gonna happen, you can't expect software alone to do what hardware and software can together and combined they may have been able to do before what was promised, but no longer. Hell i'll take odrecs words to another level, without a dedicated processor not even Natal fit is gonna work well.WilliamRLBaker

sorry no, when a company shows all this footage *which was often simulated images* i take that as a promise of what a thing is capable.
I mean hell they pimped the one johnny kid simulation and it turned out that was fake. so no i take every thing said to me at 2008 or 2009 e3 as a promise of what they will strive to do and now we are told they gimp them selves before they even release.

As for that it doesn't matter on promises simple logic dictates. Natal before with software and chip would be able to do stuff that natal with software alone is not capable of this is a simple fact of logic. Natal has now become trash to me, its become less then it was before.

They're doing a cheap job and rushing it out just like the 360. Expect problems.Parasomniac

[quote=""]"Patching up older games to run with the new hardware now looks rather unlikely unless they have the CPU time to spare, but hopefully this will serve to focus developers on Natal-specific concepts as opposed to revisiting old classics."GulliversTravel

Not looking so good...

Pffft...those games weren't meant for Natal anyways.

They went the cheap route when first releasing the 360 and what happened? RROD. Will they every learn? They say most 360 games dont use 100% of the 360s proccessing power, but what if a game does and wants to use natal? They are screwed. Whatever, i never thought it was going to do well anyways, i doubt the generic games that come out for it will use 20% of 360s power.

Sully28

Hey don't worry xbox owners it will come with a three year warranty ;)

PA_DUTCH

Sorry..:(

Wow, some good analytical post here. The analysis of the removal of the chips is nice to see.

I would have thought if MS was serious about Natal being more than a "Fit" balanced board type device then that chip was necessary. I still had some doubts about its use but it still had a chance. NOW as it stands, the processing power which is at or near its peak. (ITS BEEN more than 4 years since Xbox 360 launched in 2005, and uses MS API, and tools , engines... ETC) SO "According to Games Industry, the majority of the processing chip work will be done by one of the three main Xenon processors" this will be a step back if the game is ...like Alen Wake 2, or Fable 3....

I love all the people jumping the gun and claiming how things will be effected when there is clearly no evidence of downgrade yet. The only problem I see is that it will be using the Xenon's power so the games using it can't be as techinical.

If the dude couldn't even look at the bottom of his avatar's foot with the processor, how the heck is it going to be better without it?

MS has some evil agenda for doing this. Probably some milking idea they have in mind.Tjeremiah1988

[QUOTE="akira2465"]

http://kotaku.com/5442458/report-microsoft-drops-natal-chip

I wonder what the price will be now. I guess this is good news for the consumer.

IronBass

Does anyone actually think they will be developing 10-14 hr games for Natal? Maybe they found out they had more room than expected and didn't need the chip.;)

I think the camera will cost $50 on its own or will proabably be bundled with games like fable 3 for a discount,like $90 or something.blacktorn

If it costs a measly 50 bones then it's a must buy for me. If it come with Fable 3 for $90 then it becomes an even better deal.