ms won pc cus of anti-competitive

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#1 deadmeat59
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microsoft made companys only use windows. thats why the became the market leader . thats why i dont like xbox! if it was still legal i bet they would try it with games to . anti-competitive is a very nasty way of doing biz thats why it is not legal in many nations today . they got sued over doing that in the past . i remember on the new when i was a kid i heard that there may not be a windows 2000 cus they were being sued .
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#2 foxhound_fox
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Blizzard makes games for both Windows and MAC.
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All of the big companies have used shady business dealings. In the NES era nintendo made devs only dev for the NES. I am sure Sony has done similarly reprehensible things.reaperstoll
yep thats true i bet they would still do it if it was legal . sadly the day of exclusives are over .
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The god of grammar frowns on this thread =(
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#6 SpruceCaboose
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    Microsoft forced no one to support Windows. Developers do because it is on 95% or so of the worlds computers, and that would be a huge market to neglect.
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#7 Gen007
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i stopped when you said MS makes companys use windows which is a lie, they use it because it pcs outsell macs like 10 to 1 microsoft has done nothing wrong but destroy the competition and thats what all companys hope for
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*looks at grammar* *scratches head* What?
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*looks at grammar* *scratches head* What?Verge_6

 

yeah WTF is anti-competitive LOL 

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[QUOTE="reaperstoll"]All of the big companies have used shady business dealings. In the NES era nintendo made devs only dev for the NES. I am sure Sony has done similarly reprehensible things.deadmeat59
yep thats true i bet they would still do it if it was legal . sadly the day of exclusives are over .

    You are really confusing Anti-trust laws, which are designed to prevent a company to use its market edge to force competition to bow down to it, and/or force other companies to only deal with it, and licensing deals, which are when one company (Say Sony) signs a deal where a publisher releases games for its system only (Say GTA 3) in exchange for some sort of financial gain.

    One it illegal (Anti-trust), and one is shrewd business (licensing deals). 

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*looks at grammar* *scratches head* What?Verge_6
If all u can say i am bad at writing , then you cant think of a come back or just trying to be a pain .
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Microsoft forced no one to support Windows. Developers do because it is on 95% or so of the worlds computers, and that would be a huge market to neglect.SpruceCaboose

 

he's right....at one point 10 years ago or so MS used to block off and disalow companies to make software for both OS's....they later got sued for it and after a supreme court ruling....MS lost the ability to control what software ended up where.

 

Which is why today anybody can be software for Windows without the approval of MS. 

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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]*looks at grammar* *scratches head* What?deadmeat59
If all u can say i am bad at writing , then you cant think of a come back or just trying to be a pain .

No, I honestly have a hard time understanding you, sorry...
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when PC's were starting to boom , MS didnt have ANY competition IBM and other companies just went with MS

and MS just fell into the monopoly. 

MS cant win in any business that is already established with tough competition, ie the video game console market

 

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Microsoft forced no one to support Windows. Developers do because it is on 95% or so of the worlds computers, and that would be a huge market to neglect.cobrax75

 

he's right....at one point 10 years ago or so MS used to block off and disalow companies to make software for both OS's....they later got sued for it and after a supreme court ruling....MS lost the ability to control what software ended up where.

 

Which is why today anybody can be software for Windows without the approval of MS.

I was ten when that happened, but it I still remember it, since it was so huge. That was their biggest filed lawsuit against them to date, wasn't it? 

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[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Microsoft forced no one to support Windows. Developers do because it is on 95% or so of the worlds computers, and that would be a huge market to neglect.Verge_6

 

he's right....at one point 10 years ago or so MS used to block off and disalow companies to make software for both OS's....they later got sued for it and after a supreme court ruling....MS lost the ability to control what software ended up where.

 

Which is why today anybody can be software for Windows without the approval of MS.

I was ten when that happened, but it I still remember it, since it was so huge. That was their biggest filed lawsuit against them to date, wasn't it?

 

well its dificult to value since they didnt pay anything major...But I guess in terms of the money they could have made...I guess so. 

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#17 Verge_6
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Okay, with much effort, I think I understand what you are saying TC. No, Microsoft did not make people buy Windows. What occured is what is called a 'natural monopoly'. People accepted the Windows OS because that was practically all there was, and computers best function with one another in a network if they are running the same OS.
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Macs were here before windows machines its not microsoft fault for making a better OS that many people love.
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#19 cobrax75
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Macs were here before windows machines its not microsoft fault for making a better OS that many people love.gamer4life85

 

no but according to the suppreme court it is their fault for violating anti-trust laws. 

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#20 Danm_999
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No, Microsoft won because it got a piggyback ride from IBM who already had a very large market share and was well established in the industry.

Apple, even at their height with the original Macintosh, never had a dominant marketshare. Once Steve Jobs was removed, the situation went even more pear shaped.

Microsoft did not win because they forced companies to use their OS, that makes no sense, because you already need to have won before you can force people to use your OS. 

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#21 Danm_999
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Macs were here before windows machines its not microsoft fault for making a better OS that many people love.gamer4life85

They didn't make a better OS. They made a cheaper one, and used IBM to disseminate it.

Mac OS were, and always have been better. Their just plagued with compatibility issues. 

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#22 cobrax75
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No, Microsoft won because it got a piggyback ride from IBM who already had a very large market share and was well established in the industry.

Apple, even at their height with the original Macintosh, never had a dominant marketshare. Once Steve Jobs was removed, the situation went even more pear shaped.

Microsoft did not win because they forced companies to use their OS, that makes no sense, because you already need to have won before you can force people to use your OS.

Danm_999

 

the never forced anyone....But at one point, after they had achieved market dominance...They tried to wipe out all competition completly, by not allowing any Software developer for other OS's to make stuff for Windows.  Therby forcing those developers to become Windows only developers.Â