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#1 BrutonNYC
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heres the link to the article  http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=112219   

"I definitely believe that Halo 3 is going to be bigger than Halo 2," said Shane Kim, head of Microsoft Game Studios.

"This is going to be a huge competitive advantage for us. Sony has nothing like it."

I must say this guy is very bold to come right out and just say "Sony has nothing like it" I mean especially how right now everyone seems to be hating on the graphics for this game, I dont think this guy is in any position right now to say about Halo 3 "Sony has nothing like it" and especially considering this guy has no idea how Killzone will turn out, If killzone actually turns out to be leaps and bounds better than Halo 3, this guy will be eating his words..

Atleast now 360 fans cant accuse sony of being "arrogant" anymore since MS is the same way.

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#2 ROCK303
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he's right your wrong. next.
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#3 D0013ER
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Well no, Sony are still arrogant.  They've just been smart enough to keep their mouths shut lately.
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#4 Gen007
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sony dosent have anything like it i trhink even cows agree with this by now
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#5 BrutonNYC
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Well no, Sony are still arrogant.  They've just been smart enough to keep their mouths shut lately.D0013ER

I mean come on now, we all saw the vids of Halo 3 and its not anything amazing. Now if this guy said this about Gears i would completly understand and besides this guy has no idea what the PS3 is truely capable of

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#6 VoodooHak
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Except that Halo 3 is almost a sure thing.

Killzone is abig question mark.... I would even say that it's an uphill battle at this point. 

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#7 Baird-06
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[QUOTE="D0013ER"]Well no, Sony are still arrogant. They've just been smart enough to keep their mouths shut lately.BrutonNYC

I mean come on now, we all saw the vids of Halo 3 and its not anything amazing. Now if this guy said this about Gears i would completly understand and besides this guy has no idea what the PS3 is truely capable of

:lol: This isn't about graphics. He's talking about the mass appeal that the Halo franchise has. Even if it has so-so graphics by the time it is released, it will still sell millions. 

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#8 Afrikanxl
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Well no, Sony are still arrogant. They've just been smart enough to keep their mouths shut lately.D0013ER

so MicroSoft has been dumb lately then......fine....agreed....next.... 

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#9 fatzombiepigeon
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IF you count TP, they do.

If you count only TP, Halo probably sells more as a SINGLE title, overall, Sony has more.

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#10 BrutonNYC
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You see, that shows right there that MS is worried about the PS3 being a huge competition. I mean seriously, if MS was so confident they are going to win this Gen, why would sony even cross their minds?! I mean for example, when phil showed home, you didnt hear him say "home will be something amazing, Microsoft has nothing like it" infact you never hear sony mentioning microsoft at all unless they are directly asked about them. But you never hear sony compare their products and services to Microsoft's
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#11 jg4xchamp
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1- Sony is still arrogant, this takes nothing away from there arrogance.
2- How is he wrong, does sony have a FPS the level of a Halo. NO.
3- Killzone sucked
4- Guerilla is unproven, while Bungie is proven as a great dev.
5- Halo 3 looks just fine for me, i guarantee the graphics will improve by the time the game launches and the cows and certain sheep will be owned.
6- Halo 3 has the most important thing down right now. and thats gameplay. Gameplay>>>>>>>>Graphics. Halo 3 looks fun as heck
7- Killzone 2 wont be leaps and bounds better than anything, i bet it will suck, again.
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#12 cheatymcshifty
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sony dosent have anything like it i trhink even cows agree with this by nowGen007

he's right your wrong. next.ROCK303

 
Halo isint as big as some lems seem to think.. (including you two, apperently)

GT3 sold about as much as Halo 1 and 2 put together...

Plus Sony has more than 3 (4?) sucessful franchises.... but there biggest is still bigger than MS's biggest....

 

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#13 kcpp2b
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What FPS does the PS3 have that's better than the Halo franchise? Or will be better than Halo 3?

Killzone? I liked Killzone but no way 

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You see, that shows right there that MS is worried about the PS3 being a huge competition. I mean seriously, if MS was so confident they are going to win this Gen, why would sony even cross their minds?! I mean for example, when phil showed home, you didnt hear him say "home will be something amazing, Microsoft has nothing like it" infact you never hear sony mentioning microsoft at all unless they are directly asked about them. But you never hear sony compare their products and services to Microsoft's BrutonNYC

Now you're just grasping.

If course MS has to take Sony seriously.  They were the market leaders last gen and have a stronger brand presence.

But the way things are turning out, I'm willing to bet that Sony's just little more worried about MS than the other way around.

And I'm sorry... Phil Harrison made direst comparisons between XBL and PSN.  And I think we know how that's turned out so far. 

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#15 hplarjy
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if this legendary game flops by even 1 pt on gamespot or ign, then really sony has nothing like halo 3. haha.
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#16 loco145
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What FPS does the PS3 have that's better than the Halo franchise? Or will be better than Halo 3?

Killzone? I liked Killzone but no way

kcpp2b

UT3. 

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#17 D0013ER
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[QUOTE="D0013ER"]Well no, Sony are still arrogant. They've just been smart enough to keep their mouths shut lately.Afrikanxl

so MicroSoft has been dumb lately then......fine....agreed....next....

As a matter of fact, that was exactly what I was inferring... 

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#18 AfterShafter
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Sony has no proven FPS's.  Insofar as that's true, so is this statement.  Killzone is the very definition of an unproven FPS, and it's one that has a mediocre development house and terrible game last gen to overcome at that.
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You see, that shows right there that MS is worried about the PS3 being a huge competition. I mean seriously, if MS was so confident they are going to win this Gen, why would sony even cross their minds?! I mean for example, when phil showed home, you didnt hear him say "home will be something amazing, Microsoft has nothing like it" infact you never hear sony mentioning microsoft at all unless they are directly asked about them. But you never hear sony compare their products and services to Microsoft's BrutonNYC

who the hell said they are not worried about each other? why do you even keep trying to bash microsoft when sony is just like them. they're companies who only care about profit 

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Shows you how much M$ relies on one game.
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#21 eddy_of_york
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Well considering the floating rumors that Halo 3 has the most pre-orders of any game, ever...It's not like he's wrong. As far as being a huge advantage to MS...this guy is completely right.
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#23 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

What FPS does the PS3 have that's better than the Halo franchise? Or will be better than Halo 3?

Killzone? I liked Killzone but no way

loco145

UT3. 

multiplat. what exclusiv FPS does sony have the level of Halo 3? nothing.
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"aight?"
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there goes gameplay> graphics again LOL. in fact its either make or break for halo 3 right? either legendary than the previous ones or a legendary game that flopped. and what killed it? overhype. killzone even its overhyped, its needs to be because it has a very good chance of scoring more of the original if not killing halo. but halo is the best FPS (?) and if it flops, this might be the last one.
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there goes gameplay> graphics again LOL. in fact its either make or break for halo 3 right? either legendary than the previous ones or a legendary game that flopped. and what killed it? overhype. killzone even its overhyped, its needs to be because it has a very good chance of scoring more of the original if not killing halo. but halo is the best FPS (?) and if it flops, this might be the last one.hplarjy

it's a trilogy, dummy 

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#27 loco145
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[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

What FPS does the PS3 have that's better than the Halo franchise? Or will be better than Halo 3?

Killzone? I liked Killzone but no way

jg4xchamp

UT3.

multiplat. what exclusiv FPS does sony have the level of Halo 3? nothing.

Th question was: "What FPS does the PS3 have that's better than the Halo franchise? Or will be better than Halo 3?" ;)

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[QUOTE="hplarjy"]there goes gameplay> graphics again LOL. in fact its either make or break for halo 3 right? either legendary than the previous ones or a legendary game that flopped. and what killed it? overhype. killzone even its overhyped, its needs to be because it has a very good chance of scoring more of the original if not killing halo. but halo is the best FPS (?) and if it flops, this might be the last one.cabjnico

it's a trilogy, dummy 

aw too bad, the last one might be the worst. there will be no halo 4 period, according to you even if halo 3 become successful. no other halo game everyone. this guy said so.
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#29 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="cabjnico"]

[QUOTE="hplarjy"]there goes gameplay> graphics again LOL. in fact its either make or break for halo 3 right? either legendary than the previous ones or a legendary game that flopped. and what killed it? overhype. killzone even its overhyped, its needs to be because it has a very good chance of scoring more of the original if not killing halo. but halo is the best FPS (?) and if it flops, this might be the last one.hplarjy

it's a trilogy, dummy 

aw too bad, the last one might be the worst. there will be no halo 4 period, according to you even if halo 3 become successful. no other halo game everyone. this guy said so.

He never said that. But that specific storyline will be over yes. Halo wars will be a strategy game. and how does Halo look like its gonna flop. They are improving on the gameplay. they went back to a more Halo 1 feel for the game. They added no concepts to an already great multiplayer. They have been working on this game before the 360 even launched. They are putting in a huge effort to send this game out with a bang. This game will look great when it comes out, play even greater, and be a highly critical acclaimed game. This may infact be the best in the series.
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#30 aaron6581230
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

What FPS does the PS3 have that's better than the Halo franchise? Or will be better than Halo 3?

Killzone? I liked Killzone but no way

loco145

UT3.

multiplat. what exclusiv FPS does sony have the level of Halo 3? nothing.

Th question was: "What FPS does the PS3 have that's better than the Halo franchise? Or will be better than Halo 3?" ;)

Actually, halo and halo 2 weren't exactly exclusive because they were both on the pc, which might make halo 3 the same.

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#31 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

What FPS does the PS3 have that's better than the Halo franchise? Or will be better than Halo 3?

Killzone? I liked Killzone but no way

loco145

UT3.

multiplat. what exclusiv FPS does sony have the level of Halo 3? nothing.

Th question was: "What FPS does the PS3 have that's better than the Halo franchise? Or will be better than Halo 3?" ;)

That can be arguable. Halo could give, and will give Unreal a run for its money. atleast on consoles. PC unreal will own.
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#32 eastside49er
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Sony doesn't so he is just telling the truth. When it is all said and done, Halo 3 will probably be the most sold exclusive game of the generation.
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#33 eastside49er
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

What FPS does the PS3 have that's better than the Halo franchise? Or will be better than Halo 3?

Killzone? I liked Killzone but no way

loco145

UT3.

multiplat. what exclusiv FPS does sony have the level of Halo 3? nothing.

Th question was: "What FPS does the PS3 have that's better than the Halo franchise? Or will be better than Halo 3?" ;)

:lol: at the person who believes UT3 is worth owning on a console.

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#34 Riverwolf007
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See, this is why this place doesn't work sometimes. The quoted talking heads world, i.e. "industry" see sales as king. Nothing for the PS3 will sell like Halo 3 holiday 07, so at least in that respect there is nothing like it.  The rest is all opinion.
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#35 AfterShafter
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Sony doesn't so he is just telling the truth. When it is all said and done, Halo 3 will probably be the most sold exclusive game of the generation. eastside49er


Questionable on two points...  One, that it'll be the most solid exclusive of the generation - Halo 2 had its shortcomings, and reviewers have been coming down on sequels recently...  Secondly, will it even remain exclusive?  The first two didn't.
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#36 raynimrod
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Sony doesn't so he is just telling the truth. When it is all said and done, Halo 3 will probably be the most sold exclusive game of the generation. eastside49er


Perhaps just for the 360 yes.  Big call otherwise.
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#37 loco145
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[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

What FPS does the PS3 have that's better than the Halo franchise? Or will be better than Halo 3?

Killzone? I liked Killzone but no way

eastside49er

UT3.

multiplat. what exclusiv FPS does sony have the level of Halo 3? nothing.

Th question was: "What FPS does the PS3 have that's better than the Halo franchise? Or will be better than Halo 3?" ;)

:lol: at the person who believes UT3 is worth owning on a console.

When i said that? :roll: 

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#38 loco145
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Sony doesn't so he is just telling the truth. When it is all said and done, Halo 3 will probably be the most sold exclusive game of the generation. eastside49er
Why? I don't think so.
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#39 cheatymcshifty
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[QUOTE="eastside49er"]Sony doesn't so he is just telling the truth. When it is all said and done, Halo 3 will probably be the most sold exclusive game of the generation. raynimrod


Perhaps just for the 360 yes. Big call otherwise.

See, this is why this place doesn't work sometimes. The quoted talking heads world, i.e. "industry" see sales as king. Nothing for the PS3 will sell like Halo 3 holiday 07, so at least in that respect there is nothing like it. The rest is all opinion.Riverwolf007

Holiday 07, your probably right.... overall this generation? It will probably Pokemon, gran turismo, and possibly mario as the top EXCLUSIVE spots.. 

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#40 eastside49er
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[QUOTE="eastside49er"]Sony doesn't so he is just telling the truth. When it is all said and done, Halo 3 will probably be the most sold exclusive game of the generation. AfterShafter


Questionable on two points...  One, that it'll be the most solid exclusive of the generation - Halo 2 had its shortcomings, and reviewers have been coming down on sequels recently...  Secondly, will it even remain exclusive?  The first two didn't.

Considering Halo was a dubbed down port for the PC and Halo 2 sounds like it is headed that way, plus both games took 2 to 3 years to even get to the PC, I consider them exclusive, but of course you can have the "Wii version" if you buy the PC version. Halo 3 will be no different, but it will probably outsell both games combined.

As far as the shortcomings go, the only shortcoming Halo 2 had IMO was the SP, which from the sound of things, Halo 3 will have an epic SP since Bungie has been working on it for over 3 years now.

 

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#41 AfterShafter
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[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="eastside49er"]Sony doesn't so he is just telling the truth. When it is all said and done, Halo 3 will probably be the most sold exclusive game of the generation. eastside49er



Questionable on two points...  One, that it'll be the most solid exclusive of the generation - Halo 2 had its shortcomings, and reviewers have been coming down on sequels recently...  Secondly, will it even remain exclusive?  The first two didn't.

Considering Halo was a dubbed down port for the PC and Halo 2 sounds like it is headed that way, plus both games took 2 to 3 years to even get to the PC, I consider them exclusive, but of course you can have the "Wii version" if you buy the PC version. Halo 3 will be no different, but it will probably outsell both games combined.

As far as the shortcomings go, the only shortcoming Halo 2 had IMO was the SP, which from the sound of things, Halo 3 will have an epic SP since Bungie has been working on it for close to 4 years now.

 



It's all good and fine that you consider a game that is on more than one platform exclusive to a single platform, but that doesn't make it true. 

From the sound of things, Halo 2 was pretty much perfect..  But its single player -a  HUGE part of the game - left something to be desired. 

So yeah, think what you will.  Reality is a ****

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[QUOTE="Gen007"]sony dosent have anything like it i trhink even cows agree with this by nowcheatymcshifty

he's right your wrong. next.ROCK303


Halo isint as big as some lems seem to think.. (including you two, apperently)

GT3 sold about as much as Halo 1 and 2 put together...

Plus Sony has more than 3 (4?) sucessful franchises.... but there biggest is still bigger than MS's biggest....

 

I'm pretty sure Halo 2 broke Spider-man 2's first day sales record, a pretty big accomplishment. The problem is that these types of sales could not continue on a console with approximately 1/4 the fanbase of the PS2. Halo is pretty damn big, considering the fanbase of the xbox.

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You see, that shows right there that MS is worried about the PS3 being a huge competition. I mean seriously, if MS was so confident they are going to win this Gen, why would sony even cross their minds?! I mean for example, when phil showed home, you didnt hear him say "home will be something amazing, Microsoft has nothing like it" infact you never hear sony mentioning microsoft at all unless they are directly asked about them. But you never hear sony compare their products and services to Microsoft's BrutonNYC

Agreed. MS is worried about Sony.  Why would MS even use the statement saying "Sony has nothing like it"?  MS releasing Elite 360 to try to "match" the PS3.  I've said this all along.  MS is scared of Sony, not Nintendo. 

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[QUOTE="cheatymcshifty"]

[QUOTE="Gen007"]sony dosent have anything like it i trhink even cows agree with this by nowVyse_The_Daring

he's right your wrong. next.ROCK303


Halo isint as big as some lems seem to think.. (including you two, apperently)

GT3 sold about as much as Halo 1 and 2 put together...

Plus Sony has more than 3 (4?) sucessful franchises.... but there biggest is still bigger than MS's biggest....

 

I'm pretty sure Halo 2 broke Spider-man 2's first day sales record, a pretty big accomplishment. The problem is that these types of sales could not continue on a console with approximately 1/4 the fanbase of the PS2. Halo is pretty damn big, considering the fanbase of the xbox.

The fanbase argument is stupid, thats like saying Halo unboutably would have sold 28 million copies on ps2...

Larger install bases mean more varied consumers, more game competition, etc, it means each game sells less... 

ANYWAY, sorry, not the point...

I dont know how quickly games such as GT 1,2,3, GTA 3, VC, and SA, etc sold... but I'm sure it's close to how fast Halo 2 sold, heck, i'd bet that GTA VC and SA sold faster than Halo when they first released..

Not that it matters... I'm sure publishers only care about overall sales.. after they spend 1-3 years on a game 

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#45 eastside49er
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[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="eastside49er"]Sony doesn't so he is just telling the truth. When it is all said and done, Halo 3 will probably be the most sold exclusive game of the generation. AfterShafter



Questionable on two points...  One, that it'll be the most solid exclusive of the generation - Halo 2 had its shortcomings, and reviewers have been coming down on sequels recently...  Secondly, will it even remain exclusive?  The first two didn't.

Considering Halo was a dubbed down port for the PC and Halo 2 sounds like it is headed that way, plus both games took 2 to 3 years to even get to the PC, I consider them exclusive, but of course you can have the "Wii version" if you buy the PC version. Halo 3 will be no different, but it will probably outsell both games combined.

As far as the shortcomings go, the only shortcoming Halo 2 had IMO was the SP, which from the sound of things, Halo 3 will have an epic SP since Bungie has been working on it for close to 4 years now.

 



It's all good and fine that you consider a game that is on more than one platform exclusive to a single platform, but that doesn't make it true. 

From the sound of things, Halo 2 was pretty much perfect..  But its single player -a  HUGE part of the game - left something to be desired. 

So yeah, think what you will.  Reality is a ****

I call it a difference of opinion. Any game to me that is on a console or PC for 2 to 3 years and then another platform gets that game, but it is pretty much crap, I consider that game to be exclusive. Even if it is good I still consider it exclusive, especially if the game is good considering the hype for the game is all but dead and it normally is an after thought even when it launches. Case and point, Halo 2. With Halo 3 on the horizon and the BETA coming out in a few days, it is basically an after thought now.

As far as the SP goes for Halo 2, different strokes for different folks. I thought it was crap, but I know some who loved it and played through it many of times. Once again, difference of opinion.

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Sony doesn't have anything like the Blockbuster Halo is.  He's right.  Not arrogant. 

 

According to your logic: 

Einstein says, "Time and space is all relative to the observer."  General public says, "What an arrogant guy.  Let's ignore him."

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#47 hoankiemdinh
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Sony is the most arrogant

Sony: "Microsoft aims for the moon, we aim for the sun".........please then that means the Wii is aiming for the Milky Way becuase it kicking Sony butt in everywhere 

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He IS right though. Ps3 does have nothing like Halo. Halo executes in all areas, including graphics. They just don't just apply HDR bloom everywhere in the Halo universe. I haven't seen one Killzone novel released, yet a Halo novel makes best seller list for a few weeks: it just shows how deep the Halo universe is. It was never a game for casuals despite Halo 2 being marketed toward casuals (see trailers before special movies like King Arthur at Loews Theatres)

 He is right. There isnt one ps3 game that people are going to line up for by the ridiculous amount. Even MGS4 wont have that big of a launch line going out the door. MGS4 isnt media "whored" like Halo is. He is right. He isnt being arrogant. He's just...right.

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Halo was a truly brilliant SP game that made the Xbox, Halo 2 was a brilliant MP game that made Xbox Live, Halo 3 will make the Xbox 360 and if it has the combined qualities from Halo and Halo 2, it deserves its success.

Anyway, the guy is right, good game or not! 

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#50 xX0LDSCH00LXx
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heres the link to the article  http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=112219   

"I definitely believe that Halo 3 is going to be bigger than Halo 2," said Shane Kim, head of Microsoft Game Studios.

"This is going to be a huge competitive advantage for us. Sony has nothing like it."

I must say this guy is very bold to come right out and just say "Sony has nothing like it" I mean especially how right now everyone seems to be hating on the graphics for this game, I don't think this guy is in any position right now to say about Halo 3 "Sony has nothing like it" and especially considering this guy has no idea how Killzone will turn out, If killzone actually turns out to be leaps and bounds better than Halo 3, this guy will be eating his words..

Atleast now 360 fans cant accuse sony of being "arrogant" anymore since MS is the same way.

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The graphics for Halo3 could completely suck!!! But that doesn't change the fact that the Halo franchise has a huge cult like following like World of Warcraft, people seem to overlook this!