multiplat games graphics 360 vs PS3 (need tech experts PLZ!!)

Hey guys, ive always wondered why do multiplatform games always seem to be better on the 360 than the ps3?

1. on all four gamespot graphics war the 360 was a clear winner...

2. although games nowadays are getting almost identical, the 360 has either better looking textures, or more effects and details than its ps3 counter part

3. almost every review gamespot, ign, and etc say most multiplatform games look a tad better on the 360 (gotten from multiple reviews: batman aa, resident evil 5, and etc.)

how is this possible when ps3 is outputting graphically amazing games like killzone 2, and uncharted 2?

please give me some technical details...not just raw fanboy answers...thanks...

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26942259

i hope this can be helpful.

all multiplats are better on ps3 i think cuz online is free and have dedicated servers.

all multiplats are better on ps3 i think cuz online is free and have dedicated servers.

ZoomZoom2490

Actually, it depends on where you are looking. Batman for instance was voted better looking at LensofTruth, whereas IGN just mentioned Xbox was better, Lens broke it down. Digital foundry did a breakdown of Batman's DEMO, but that doesn't mean much, it was just a DEMO. Basically, on 360, Batman is more ZOOMED in so the 360 hardware doesn't draw as much as the PS3, but there are other small things, just read about Batman in the LINK above. Also, the PS3 has had not just the EXCLUSIVE JOKER Content for BATMAN, but even more EXCLUSIVE DLC for Batman Since then! The PS3 has had 3 DLC's for Batman so far this year.

Look at the Camera in both games, the PS3 is rendering more on screen, while the 360 has a Zoomed in Camera.

Then there's Killzone 2, which right now is arguably the Console Graphics King. Why? Because it took about 3 1/2 to develop, and no other platform to worry about. That's why it looks so great, however, Uncharted 2 only took two years, and it's also considered a BEAST in Graphics (although it's not out yet).

It's true that the games are about equal, but many do have a slight 360 advantage, but it's quite simple.

PS3 has a LOT of juice under the hood, however, it's HARD to use all of it.

THe 360 is very, very easy to use, even if it may not be as powerful, it's close enough, and since it's easier to use, voila.

Besides, the other issue is almost all games are made on 360 and ported over, and when that's not the case, you have the "easy to use 360" answer stated above this sentence.

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Games like Uncharted, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 etc...are designed for ONE Hardware, the PS3, so the devs don't have to worry about making the game in question run good on MULTIPLE Hardware (PC/360). IT's all about the PS3 for those devs.

It's a shame that devs have to work harder to exploit the PS3, but that's how Sony designed it, you have to take the good with the bad.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 looks amazing for example, but it is coming a year later on PS3, same for the amazing looking Oblivion on PS3...same for Fight Night Round 3. Heck Burnout:Paradise came out the same day and it's cited as a better port on PS3, but it's an exception, to the rule that 360 usually has a slight edge in the multiplat dept.

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I must say that the Graphics Issue is So Small, so minute, it's crazy that people are still looking for tiny pixels for OWNAGE. The PC blows the 360 and PS3 away, yet these console gamers are digging desperately for tiny ownage.

Only HUGE graphical issues should really even be looked at (Like When Fallout 3 first shipped, although now it's fine...even the DLC is equal for Fallout 3 now).

360 is easier to develop for so multiplats look/perform better. Sony supports its firt party devs more so PS3 exclusives look better. At the end both systems are tecnically at the same level.

here the list of multiplats

all multiplats are better on ps3 i think cuz online is free and have dedicated servers.

ZoomZoom2490

How's Fallout 3 online... oh wait... :P

Actually, it depends on where you are looking. Batman for instance was voted better looking at LensofTruth, whereas IGN just mentioned Xbox, Lens broke it down. Digital foundry did a breakdown of Batman's DEMO, but that doesn't mean much.

Iit's true that the games are about equal, but many do have a slight 360 advantage, but it's quite simple.

PS3 has a LOT of juice under the hood, however, it's HARD to use all of it.

The 360 is very, very easy to use, even if it may not be as powerful, it's close enough, and since it's easier to use, voila.

Besides, the other issue is almost all games are made on 360 and ported over, and when that's not the case, you have the easy to use answer.

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Games like Uncharted, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 etc...are designed for ONE Hardware, the PS3, so the devs don't have to worry about making the game in question run good on MULTIPLE Hardware (PC/360). IT's all about the PS3 for those devs.

It's a shame that devs have to work harder to exploit the PS3, but that's how Sony designed it, you have to take the good with the bad.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 looks amazing for example, but it is coming a year later on PS3, same for the amazing looking Oblivion on PS3.

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I must say that the Graphics Issue is So Small, so minute, it's crazy that people are still looking for tiny pixels for OWNAGE. The PC blows the 360 and PS3 away, yet these console gamers are digging desperately for tiny ownage.

Only HUGE graphical issues should really even be looked at (Like When Fallout 3 first shipped, although now it's fine).

SolidTy

Actually, Lens Of Truth was being pretty biased on Batman: AA, where they missed some details such as the 360 having 2xAA, while the PS3 version doesn't have AA at all. I think that the reason they went for the PS3 version is because of the exclusive joker content. Plus Oblivion, I believe, has even got a patch which updates the graphics for the 360 version.

Edit: This is another site of multiplat comparisons.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Actually, it depends on where you are looking. Batman for instance was voted better looking at LensofTruth, whereas IGN just mentioned Xbox was better, Lens broke it down. Digital foundry did a breakdown of Batman's DEMO, but that doesn't mean much, it was just a DEMO. Basically, on 360, Batman is more ZOOMED in so the 360 hardware doesn't draw as much as the PS3, but there are other small things, just read about Batman in the LINK above. Also, the PS3 has had not just the EXCLUSIVE JOKER Content for BATMAN, but even more EXCLUSIVE DLC for Batman Since then!

Then there's Killzone 2, which right now is arguably the Console Graphics King. Why? Because it took about 3 1/2 to develop, and no other platform to worry about. That's why it looks so great, however, Uncharted 2 only took two years, and it's also considered a BEAST in Graphics (although it's not out yet).

It's true that the games are about equal, but many do have a slight 360 advantage, but it's quite simple.

PS3 has a LOT of juice under the hood, however, it's HARD to use all of it.

THe 360 is very, very easy to use, even if it may not be as powerful, it's close enough, and since it's easier to use, voila.

Besides, the other issue is almost all games are made on 360 and ported over, and when that's not the case, you have the "easy to use 360" answer stated above this sentence.

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Games like Uncharted, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 etc...are designed for ONE Hardware, the PS3, so the devs don't have to worry about making the game in question run good on MULTIPLE Hardware (PC/360). IT's all about the PS3 for those devs.

It's a shame that devs have to work harder to exploit the PS3, but that's how Sony designed it, you have to take the good with the bad.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 looks amazing for example, but it is coming a year later on PS3, same for the amazing looking Oblivion on PS3...same for Fight Night Round 3, etc.

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I must say that the Graphics Issue is So Small, so minute, it's crazy that people are still looking for tiny pixels for OWNAGE. The PC blows the 360 and PS3 away, yet these console gamers are digging desperately for tiny ownage.

Only HUGE graphical issues should really even be looked at (Like When Fallout 3 first shipped, although now it's fine...even the DLC is equal for Fallout 3 now).

garland51

Actually, Lens Of Truth was being pretty biased on Batman: AA, where they missed some details such as the 360 having 2xAA, while the PS3 version doesn't have AA at all. I think that the reason they went for the PS3 version is because of the exclusive joker content. Plus Oblivion, I believe, has even got a patch which updates the graphics for the 360 version.

I put the link above, they weren't biased, they broke it all down. Did you see Batman's ZOOMED in on 360? Also, the PS3 got more than JOKER as exclusive DLC, just last week PS3 got even MORE exclusive DLC! It's true that the 360 got a patch, but that patch didn't improve the game up to the PS3's graphical fidelity, but it did improve the game more, yes. Have you popped in the game in your own PS3 and 360 to see the differences?

I never understand why someone says something Like AA, Textures, or something for ownage, when it's about All the graphics, not a part of it. Prototype looks better on PS3 because of some textures, whoopee! It's so beneath us to bother with minute details like this, I think.

There is a lot going on in these games, LIGHTING, TEXTURES, AA, Shadows, and so on. Looking at just AA, and pointing is pointless. AA is just one of a 1000 different things that need looked at.

I am not going to argue about Batman or other games, it's pointless pixel counting, when clearly the PC destroys both anyways. It's so, so, so, so pointless.

Anyways, the bigger issue was the PS3 is Powerful BUT the PS3 is also harder to exploit, the 360 was better designed for developers giving comparable power.

Actually, it depends on where you are looking. Batman for instance was voted better looking at LensofTruth, whereas IGN just mentioned Xbox was better, Lens broke it down. Digital foundry did a breakdown of Batman's DEMO, but that doesn't mean much, it was just a DEMO. Basically, on 360, Batman is more ZOOMED in so the 360 hardware doesn't draw as much as the PS3, but there are other small things, just read about Batman in the LINK above. Also, the PS3 has had not just the EXCLUSIVE JOKER Content for BATMAN, but even more EXCLUSIVE DLC for Batman Since then!

Iit's true that the games are about equal, but many do have a slight 360 advantage, but it's quite simple.

PS3 has a LOT of juice under the hood, however, it's HARD to use all of it.

THe 360 is very, very easy to use, even if it may not be as powerful, it's close enough, and since it's easier to use, voila.

Besides, the other issue is almost all games are made on 360 and ported over, and when that's not the case, you have the "easy to use 360" answer stated above this sentence.

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Games like Uncharted, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 etc...are designed for ONE Hardware, the PS3, so the devs don't have to worry about making the game in question run good on MULTIPLE Hardware (PC/360). IT's all about the PS3 for those devs.

It's a shame that devs have to work harder to exploit the PS3, but that's how Sony designed it, you have to take the good with the bad.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 looks amazing for example, but it is coming a year later on PS3, same for the amazing looking Oblivion on PS3.

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I must say that the Graphics Issue is So Small, so minute, it's crazy that people are still looking for tiny pixels for OWNAGE. The PC blows the 360 and PS3 away, yet these console gamers are digging desperately for tiny ownage.

Only HUGE graphical issues should really even be looked at (Like When Fallout 3 first shipped, although now it's fine...even the DLC is equal for Fallout 3 now).

SolidTy

[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Actually, it depends on where you are looking. Batman for instance was voted better looking at LensofTruth, whereas IGN just mentioned Xbox was better, Lens broke it down. Digital foundry did a breakdown of Batman's DEMO, but that doesn't mean much, it was just a DEMO. Basically, on 360, Batman is more ZOOMED in so the 360 hardware doesn't draw as much as the PS3, but there are other small things, just read about Batman in the LINK above. Also, the PS3 has had not just the EXCLUSIVE JOKER Content for BATMAN, but even more EXCLUSIVE DLC for Batman Since then!

Iit's true that the games are about equal, but many do have a slight 360 advantage, but it's quite simple.

PS3 has a LOT of juice under the hood, however, it's HARD to use all of it.

THe 360 is very, very easy to use, even if it may not be as powerful, it's close enough, and since it's easier to use, voila.

Besides, the other issue is almost all games are made on 360 and ported over, and when that's not the case, you have the "easy to use 360" answer stated above this sentence.

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Games like Uncharted, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 etc...are designed for ONE Hardware, the PS3, so the devs don't have to worry about making the game in question run good on MULTIPLE Hardware (PC/360). IT's all about the PS3 for those devs.

It's a shame that devs have to work harder to exploit the PS3, but that's how Sony designed it, you have to take the good with the bad.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 looks amazing for example, but it is coming a year later on PS3, same for the amazing looking Oblivion on PS3...same for Fight Night Round 3, etc.

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I must say that the Graphics Issue is So Small, so minute, it's crazy that people are still looking for tiny pixels for OWNAGE. The PC blows the 360 and PS3 away, yet these console gamers are digging desperately for tiny ownage.

Only HUGE graphical issues should really even be looked at (Like When Fallout 3 first shipped, although now it's fine...even the DLC is equal for Fallout 3 now).

SolidTy

Actually, Lens Of Truth was being pretty biased on Batman: AA, where they missed some details such as the 360 having 2xAA, while the PS3 version doesn't have AA at all. I think that the reason they went for the PS3 version is because of the exclusive joker content. Plus Oblivion, I believe, has even got a patch which updates the graphics for the 360 version.

I put the link above, they weren't biased, they broke it all down. Did you see Batman's ZOOMED in on 360? Also, the PS3 got more than JOKER as exclusive DLC, just last week PS3 got even MORE exclusive DLC! It's true that the 360 got a patch, but that patch didn't improve the game up to the PS3's graphical fidelity, but it did improve the game more, yes. Have you popped in the game in your own PS3 and 360 to see the differences?

I never understand why someone says something Like AA, Textures, or something for ownage, when it's about All the graphics, not a part of it. Prototype looks better on PS3 because of some textures, whoopee! It's so beneath us to bother with minute details like this, I think.

I am not going to argue about Batman or other games, it's pointless pixel counting, when clearly the PC destroys both anyways. It's so, so, so, so pointless.

Anyways, the bigger issue was the PS3 is Powerful BUT the PS3 is also harder to exploit, the 360 was better designed for developers giving comparable power.

I'll take Eurogamer/Digital Foundry's & B3D Forums words over Lens Of Truth about Batman. Oblivion was also better on the 360 on something else; I forgot what it is. As far as the PC goes, very true, the PC destroy's consoles in terms of graphics, but then it wouldn't be a fair fight when comparing them to consoles.

Also, having AA definitely helps when it comes to visuals/graphics.

[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Actually, it depends on where you are looking. Batman for instance was voted better looking at LensofTruth, whereas IGN just mentioned Xbox was better, Lens broke it down. Digital foundry did a breakdown of Batman's DEMO, but that doesn't mean much, it was just a DEMO. Basically, on 360, Batman is more ZOOMED in so the 360 hardware doesn't draw as much as the PS3, but there are other small things, just read about Batman in the LINK above. Also, the PS3 has had not just the EXCLUSIVE JOKER Content for BATMAN, but even more EXCLUSIVE DLC for Batman Since then!

Iit's true that the games are about equal, but many do have a slight 360 advantage, but it's quite simple.

PS3 has a LOT of juice under the hood, however, it's HARD to use all of it.

THe 360 is very, very easy to use, even if it may not be as powerful, it's close enough, and since it's easier to use, voila.

Besides, the other issue is almost all games are made on 360 and ported over, and when that's not the case, you have the "easy to use 360" answer stated above this sentence.

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Games like Uncharted, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 etc...are designed for ONE Hardware, the PS3, so the devs don't have to worry about making the game in question run good on MULTIPLE Hardware (PC/360). IT's all about the PS3 for those devs.

It's a shame that devs have to work harder to exploit the PS3, but that's how Sony designed it, you have to take the good with the bad.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 looks amazing for example, but it is coming a year later on PS3, same for the amazing looking Oblivion on PS3...same for Fight Night Round 3, etc.

-----------

I must say that the Graphics Issue is So Small, so minute, it's crazy that people are still looking for tiny pixels for OWNAGE. The PC blows the 360 and PS3 away, yet these console gamers are digging desperately for tiny ownage.

Only HUGE graphical issues should really even be looked at (Like When Fallout 3 first shipped, although now it's fine...even the DLC is equal for Fallout 3 now).

SolidTy

Actually, Lens Of Truth was being pretty biased on Batman: AA, where they missed some details such as the 360 having 2xAA, while the PS3 version doesn't have AA at all. I think that the reason they went for the PS3 version is because of the exclusive joker content. Plus Oblivion, I believe, has even got a patch which updates the graphics for the 360 version.

I put the link above, they weren't biased, they broke it all down. Did you see Batman's ZOOMED in on 360? Also, the PS3 got more than JOKER as exclusive DLC, just last week PS3 got even MORE exclusive DLC! It's true that the 360 got a patch, but that patch didn't improve the game up to the PS3's graphical fidelity, but it did improve the game more, yes. Have you popped in the game in your own PS3 and 360 to see the differences?

I never understand why someone says something Like AA, Textures, or something for ownage, when it's about All the graphics, not a part of it. Prototype looks better on PS3 because of some textures, whoopee! It's so beneath us to bother with minute details like this, I think.

I am not going to argue about Batman or other games, it's pointless pixel counting, when clearly the PC destroys both anyways. It's so, so, so, so pointless.

Anyways, the bigger issue was the PS3 is Powerful BUT the PS3 is also harder to exploit, the 360 was better designed for developers giving comparable power.

I played both them side by side and honestly the difference is small but the 360 looks a bit better. The ps3 version was quite jaggy.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]

Actually, Lens Of Truth was being pretty biased on Batman: AA, where they missed some details such as the 360 having 2xAA, while the PS3 version doesn't have AA at all. I think that the reason they went for the PS3 version is because of the exclusive joker content. Plus Oblivion, I believe, has even got a patch which updates the graphics for the 360 version.

garland51

I put the link above, they weren't biased, they broke it all down. Did you see Batman's ZOOMED in on 360? Also, the PS3 got more than JOKER as exclusive DLC, just last week PS3 got even MORE exclusive DLC! It's true that the 360 got a patch, but that patch didn't improve the game up to the PS3's graphical fidelity, but it did improve the game more, yes. Have you popped in the game in your own PS3 and 360 to see the differences?

I never understand why someone says something Like AA, Textures, or something for ownage, when it's about All the graphics, not a part of it. Prototype looks better on PS3 because of some textures, whoopee! It's so beneath us to bother with minute details like this, I think.

I am not going to argue about Batman or other games, it's pointless pixel counting, when clearly the PC destroys both anyways. It's so, so, so, so pointless.

Anyways, the bigger issue was the PS3 is Powerful BUT the PS3 is also harder to exploit, the 360 was better designed for developers giving comparable power.

I'll take Eurogamer/Digital Foundry's & B3D Forums words over Lens Of Truth about Batman. Oblivion was also better on the 360 on something else; I forgot what it is. As far as the PC goes, very true, the PC destroy's consoles in terms of graphics, but then it wouldn't be a fair fight when comparing them to consoles.

Well, Digital Foundry never bothered to review Batman, but some old Batman Demo, so they are useless in Batman (Besides their breakdown wasn't as in depth.) B3D just mentioned AA or not, useless as well...No one but Lens mentioned the 360's Zoomed in Camera, which enabled less rendering for the 360.

Ah well, in the end, both games look fabulous, so it doesn't matter.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Actually, it depends on where you are looking. Batman for instance was voted better looking at LensofTruth, whereas IGN just mentioned Xbox was better, Lens broke it down. Digital foundry did a breakdown of Batman's DEMO, but that doesn't mean much, it was just a DEMO. Basically, on 360, Batman is more ZOOMED in so the 360 hardware doesn't draw as much as the PS3, but there are other small things, just read about Batman in the LINK above. Also, the PS3 has had not just the EXCLUSIVE JOKER Content for BATMAN, but even more EXCLUSIVE DLC for Batman Since then!

Iit's true that the games are about equal, but many do have a slight 360 advantage, but it's quite simple.

PS3 has a LOT of juice under the hood, however, it's HARD to use all of it.

THe 360 is very, very easy to use, even if it may not be as powerful, it's close enough, and since it's easier to use, voila.

Besides, the other issue is almost all games are made on 360 and ported over, and when that's not the case, you have the "easy to use 360" answer stated above this sentence.

------------

Games like Uncharted, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 etc...are designed for ONE Hardware, the PS3, so the devs don't have to worry about making the game in question run good on MULTIPLE Hardware (PC/360). IT's all about the PS3 for those devs.

It's a shame that devs have to work harder to exploit the PS3, but that's how Sony designed it, you have to take the good with the bad.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 looks amazing for example, but it is coming a year later on PS3, same for the amazing looking Oblivion on PS3.

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I must say that the Graphics Issue is So Small, so minute, it's crazy that people are still looking for tiny pixels for OWNAGE. The PC blows the 360 and PS3 away, yet these console gamers are digging desperately for tiny ownage.

Only HUGE graphical issues should really even be looked at (Like When Fallout 3 first shipped, although now it's fine...even the DLC is equal for Fallout 3 now).

2mrw

I'm not blaming anyone for anything. What the...?

Of course it's important to have great developers exploiting hardware...

I don't understand, did you skip parts of my post or something?

[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I put the link above, they weren't biased, they broke it all down. Did you see Batman's ZOOMED in on 360? Also, the PS3 got more than JOKER as exclusive DLC, just last week PS3 got even MORE exclusive DLC! It's true that the 360 got a patch, but that patch didn't improve the game up to the PS3's graphical fidelity, but it did improve the game more, yes. Have you popped in the game in your own PS3 and 360 to see the differences?

I never understand why someone says something Like AA, Textures, or something for ownage, when it's about All the graphics, not a part of it. Prototype looks better on PS3 because of some textures, whoopee! It's so beneath us to bother with minute details like this, I think.

I am not going to argue about Batman or other games, it's pointless pixel counting, when clearly the PC destroys both anyways. It's so, so, so, so pointless.

Anyways, the bigger issue was the PS3 is Powerful BUT the PS3 is also harder to exploit, the 360 was better designed for developers giving comparable power.

SolidTy

I'll take Eurogamer/Digital Foundry's & B3D Forums words over Lens Of Truth about Batman. Oblivion was also better on the 360 on something else; I forgot what it is. As far as the PC goes, very true, the PC destroy's consoles in terms of graphics, but then it wouldn't be a fair fight when comparing them to consoles.

Well, Digital Foundry never bothered to review Batman, but some old Batman Demo, so they are useless in Batman (Besides their breakdown wasn't as in depth.) B3D just mentioned AA or not, useless as well...No one but Lens mentioned the 360's Zoomed in Camera, which enabled less rendering for the 360.

Ah well, in the end, both games look fabulous, so it doesn't matter.

Huh both version have the same view. The way I see it in the left pic he just starts running and the view zooms out, the right one is standing still

Well, Digital Foundry never bothered to review Batman, but some old Batman Demo, so they are useless in Batman (Besides their breakdown wasn't as in depth.) SolidTy

Well, it's been updated now (PC version is also on there, by the way):

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/face-off-batman-arkham-asylum-face-off

About Oblivion, by the way, the only comparison where the PS3 has a genuine advantage is the ones with the sharper textures at a distance. Otherwise they look exactly the same.

I do agree with you that the graphics are very nice on both versions, by the way.

who cares just play the damn games.

who cares just play the damn games.

bokiloki

we're not talking about just playing games...i want to talk about the advantages, graphic wise, of the ps3 or the 360 graphic architecture...

of course graphics dont matter when your having fun,,,but it does add on to the atmosphere...

i mean, the differences are minute but the 360 sometimes has like better shadows, or lighting, or color, or smoke...

its just that why couldnt those be the same on the ps3?

[QUOTE="bokiloki"]

who cares just play the damn games.

Mister_korea

we're not talking about just playing games...i want to talk about the advantages, graphic wise, of the ps3 or the 360 graphic architecture...

of course graphics dont matter when your having fun,,,but it does add on to the atmosphere...

i mean, the differences are minute but the 360 sometimes has like better shadows, or lighting, or color, or smoke...

its just that why couldnt those be the same on the ps3?

Well, you got your answer, so... /Thread, right?

Sometimes in the 360 forums, I see guys that own PS3 pretending to be thinking about buying a 360, and ask for comparisons.;)

I remember you in the PS3 forums talking about 360 all the time, glad you finally left the PS3 forums and came to SW, since "comparing the two machines while owning a 360" is more your forte.

You were about to buy a "PS3"...did you?8)

Don't worry, I've seen that old tactic used for years, that's why SW is around.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Well, Digital Foundry never bothered to review Batman, but some old Batman Demo, so they are useless in Batman (Besides their breakdown wasn't as in depth.) garland51

Well, it's been updated now (PC version is also on there, by the way):

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/face-off-batman-arkham-asylum-face-off

About Oblivion, by the way, the only comparison where the PS3 has a genuine advantage is the ones with the sharper textures at a distance. Otherwise they look exactly the same.

I do agree with you that the graphics are very nice on both versions, by the way.

Yep, the superior draw distance on Oblivion PS3, I knew all about that. :P

After all, I bought the CE version of Oblivion on 360, so I know my Oblivion, as I was surprised when I got the PS3 version on my desk.

I will have to check out your link. :)

A lot "A LOT" of 360 exclusives use Havok 6/Unreal 3.0/3.5 these engines were not designed just for the 360. Tons more mutiplats use the same engines. The reason Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 look good is because they are created from the ground up for the PS3. The 360 can use the same coding tools for PC easier than the PS3. The 360 will always shine in mutiplats and games that are built on mutiplat engines. I think the Cry engine will be in the same boat as well. They say the PS3 version runs better (maybe due to the cell) but the 360 version clearly looks better (probably due to the better graphics card). Now, apparently, the 360 has its own custom engine...and rumor feather has it that it is being used in Halo: Reach. If this is all true...it should be in interesting couple of years for the 360...Shattered007

[QUOTE="Shattered007"]A lot "A LOT" of 360 exclusives use Havok 6/Unreal 3.0/3.5 these engines were not designed just for the 360. Tons more mutiplats use the same engines. The reason Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 look good is because they are created from the ground up for the PS3. The 360 can use the same coding tools for PC easier than the PS3. The 360 will always shine in mutiplats and games that are built on mutiplat engines. I think the Cry engine will be in the same boat as well. They say the PS3 version runs better (maybe due to the cell) but the 360 version clearly looks better (probably due to the better graphics card). Now, apparently, the 360 has its own custom engine...and rumor feather has it that it is being used in Halo: Reach. If this is all true...it should be in interesting couple of years for the 360...vaderhater

LOL. :lol:

Yes, that's why he was ignored, but you saved the thread! :roll:

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

[QUOTE="Shattered007"]A lot "A LOT" of 360 exclusives use Havok 6/Unreal 3.0/3.5 these engines were not designed just for the 360. Tons more mutiplats use the same engines. The reason Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 look good is because they are created from the ground up for the PS3. The 360 can use the same coding tools for PC easier than the PS3. The 360 will always shine in mutiplats and games that are built on mutiplat engines. I think the Cry engine will be in the same boat as well. They say the PS3 version runs better (maybe due to the cell) but the 360 version clearly looks better (probably due to the better graphics card). Now, apparently, the 360 has its own custom engine...and rumor feather has it that it is being used in Halo: Reach. If this is all true...it should be in interesting couple of years for the 360...SolidTy

LOL. :lol:

Yes, that's why he was ignored, but you saved the thread! :roll:

I forgot to mention, not all PC versions of games are better than console versions. Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition & Resident Evil 4 are examples. Not to mention for backwards compatibility that it's also a pain to play older games like Final Fantasy 7 on the PC when you're upgrading your computer (I have that, as well as the PS1 version still, by the way). You also must find patches, etc. in order to play the PC versions of games on your upgraded PC. That's another flaw for PC owners. For consoles, you can just easily put the disc or cartridge inside of the system, & it'll boot the game up, no prob.

[QUOTE="Mister_korea"]

[QUOTE="bokiloki"]

who cares just play the damn games.

SolidTy

we're not talking about just playing games...i want to talk about the advantages, graphic wise, of the ps3 or the 360 graphic architecture...

of course graphics dont matter when your having fun,,,but it does add on to the atmosphere...

i mean, the differences are minute but the 360 sometimes has like better shadows, or lighting, or color, or smoke...

its just that why couldnt those be the same on the ps3?

Well, you got your answer, so... /Thread, right?

Sometimes in the 360 forums, I see guys that own PS3 pretending to be thinking about buying a 360, and ask for comparisons.;)

I remember you in the PS3 forums talking about 360 all the time, glad you finally left the PS3 forums and came to SW, since "comparing the two machines while owning a 360" is more your forte.

You were about to buy a "PS3"...did you?8)

Don't worry, I've seen that old tactic used for years, that's why SW is around.

its about asking other people for opinions...if you think that your all smart...maybe you should start knowing somthing about the person before you make accusations...oh and when i get my ps3 ill show you my psn id and prove that i did mean to get a ps3...and stop accusing people...this thread is to discuss the advantages and the disadvantages of both systems...

anyway continuing on...i noticed that the ps3 uses quinix...why do they use that...is there an advantage of quinix over AA?

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="shatterd"]"...The 360 will always shine in mutiplats..."

vaderhater

LOL. :lol:

Yes, that's why he was ignored, but you saved the thread! :roll:

Why would I prove him wrong when I agree with him, other than his use of the word "ALWAYS", which is obviously untrue. A better, more accurate word would have been "USUALLY" or "Mostly".

:lol:

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Mister_korea"]

we're not talking about just playing games...i want to talk about the advantages, graphic wise, of the ps3 or the 360 graphic architecture...

of course graphics dont matter when your having fun,,,but it does add on to the atmosphere...

i mean, the differences are minute but the 360 sometimes has like better shadows, or lighting, or color, or smoke...

its just that why couldnt those be the same on the ps3?

Mister_korea

Well, you got your answer, so... /Thread, right?

Sometimes in the 360 forums, I see guys that own PS3 pretending to be thinking about buying a 360, and ask for comparisons.;)

I remember you in the PS3 forums talking about 360 all the time, glad you finally left the PS3 forums and came to SW, since "comparing the two machines while owning a 360" is more your forte.

You were about to buy a "PS3"...did you?8)

Don't worry, I've seen that old tactic used for years, that's why SW is around.

its about asking other people for opinions...if you think that your all smart...maybe you should start knowing somthing about the person before you make accusations...oh and when i get my ps3 ill show you my psn id and prove that i did mean to get a ps3...and stop accusing people...this thread is to discuss the advantages and the disadvantages of both systems...

anyway continuing on...i noticed that the ps3 uses quinix...why do they use that...is there an advantage of quinix over AA?

Hey, it's possible you are not like the 99.999% of the guys that I've seen on those boards over the years, so I'll grant that.

That's why I asked if you got a PS3, instead of assuming you didn't get a PS3 (It turned out you didn't get a PS3 though, like I thought.).

My bigger issue was that you seem to have gotten your answers, and you didn't comment or acknowledge them.

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I do like that your question was answered, and you moved on to Quinix/AA, that's all I wanted to see, was some sort of acknowledgement that all the words/time dedicated to you for free was appreciated.

You see, the conversation could go no farther, and you've just created a reason to make the thread better, by asking a new question, so seriously, congrats. :)

[QUOTE="Mister_korea"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Well, you got your answer, so... /Thread, right?

Sometimes in the 360 forums, I see guys that own PS3 pretending to be thinking about buying a 360, and ask for comparisons.;)

I remember you in the PS3 forums talking about 360 all the time, glad you finally left the PS3 forums and came to SW, since "comparing the two machines while owning a 360" is more your forte.

You were about to buy a "PS3"...did you?8)

Don't worry, I've seen that old tactic used for years, that's why SW is around.

SolidTy

its about asking other people for opinions...if you think that your all smart...maybe you should start knowing somthing about the person before you make accusations...oh and when i get my ps3 ill show you my psn id and prove that i did mean to get a ps3...and stop accusing people...this thread is to discuss the advantages and the disadvantages of both systems...

anyway continuing on...i noticed that the ps3 uses quinix...why do they use that...is there an advantage of quinix over AA?

Hey, it's possible you are not like the 99.999% of the guys that I've seen on those boards over the years, so I'll grant that.

That's why I asked if you got a PS3, instead of assuming you didn't get a PS3 (It turned out you didn't get a PS3 though, like I thought.).

My bigger issue was that you seem to have gotten your answers, and you didn't comment or acknowledge them.

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I do like that your question was answered, and you moved on to Quinix/AA, that's all I wanted to see, was some sort of acknowledgement that all the words/time dedicated to you for free was appreciated.

You see, the conversation could go no farther, and you've just created a reason to make the thread better, by asking a new question, so seriously, congrats. :)

i sometimes dont answer them because either there is too much...or i just want them to continue discussing so i can find out more...either way this thread is about dying now...

thanks for all the guys that answered...i see now that the ps3 is as just as capable as the 360 and would be worth my cost...

to SOLIDTY: ill def show you the pix of my ps3 and my psn id just to prove that i was not fake (also lets try not to argue next time)

p.s. maybe ill make another thread on the ps3 forum about quinix/aa

p.s.s i usually do not acknowledge this way because it makes me feel...lame...

Actually, it depends on where you are looking. Batman for instance was voted better looking at LensofTruth, whereas IGN just mentioned Xbox was better, Lens broke it down. Digital foundry did a breakdown of Batman's DEMO, but that doesn't mean much, it was just a DEMO. Basically, on 360, Batman is more ZOOMED in so the 360 hardware doesn't draw as much as the PS3, but there are other small things, just read about Batman in the LINK above. Also, the PS3 has had not just the EXCLUSIVE JOKER Content for BATMAN, but even more EXCLUSIVE DLC for Batman Since then! The PS3 has had 3 DLC's for Batman so far this year.

Look at the Camera in both games, the PS3 is rendering more on screen, while the 360 has a Zoomed in Camera.

Then there's Killzone 2, which right now is arguably the Console Graphics King. Why? Because it took about 3 1/2 to develop, and no other platform to worry about. That's why it looks so great, however, Uncharted 2 only took two years, and it's also considered a BEAST in Graphics (although it's not out yet).

It's true that the games are about equal, but many do have a slight 360 advantage, but it's quite simple.

PS3 has a LOT of juice under the hood, however, it's HARD to use all of it.

THe 360 is very, very easy to use, even if it may not be as powerful, it's close enough, and since it's easier to use, voila.

Besides, the other issue is almost all games are made on 360 and ported over, and when that's not the case, you have the "easy to use 360" answer stated above this sentence.

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Games like Uncharted, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 etc...are designed for ONE Hardware, the PS3, so the devs don't have to worry about making the game in question run good on MULTIPLE Hardware (PC/360). IT's all about the PS3 for those devs.

It's a shame that devs have to work harder to exploit the PS3, but that's how Sony designed it, you have to take the good with the bad.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 looks amazing for example, but it is coming a year later on PS3, same for the amazing looking Oblivion on PS3...same for Fight Night Round 3, etc.

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I must say that the Graphics Issue is So Small, so minute, it's crazy that people are still looking for tiny pixels for OWNAGE. The PC blows the 360 and PS3 away, yet these console gamers are digging desperately for tiny ownage.

Only HUGE graphical issues should really even be looked at (Like When Fallout 3 first shipped, although now it's fine...even the DLC is equal for Fallout 3 now).

SolidTy

Eurogamer did a new one with the retail version.

[QUOTE="Shattered007"]A lot "A LOT" of 360 exclusives use Havok 6/Unreal 3.0/3.5 these engines were not designed just for the 360. Tons more mutiplats use the same engines. The reason Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 look good is because they are created from the ground up for the PS3. The 360 can use the same coding tools for PC easier than the PS3. The 360 will always shine in mutiplats and games that are built on mutiplat engines. I think the Cry engine will be in the same boat as well. They say the PS3 version runs better (maybe due to the cell) but the 360 version clearly looks better (probably due to the better graphics card). Now, apparently, the 360 has its own custom engine...and rumor feather has it that it is being used in Halo: Reach. If this is all true...it should be in interesting couple of years for the 360...vaderhater

This is all just an educated guess. I've notice that the Unreal/Havok based games look better. Usually sporting 2 times AA. I don't think I've seen a single game using these engines Running at 1080P with AA (or any other resolution).

I really dont care if the PS3 versions of multiplatform games have slightly inferior graphics. I'd rather the PS3 and 360 games be released at the same time instead of a developer taking extra time to squeeze extra juice out of the PS3. The results are good enough.