My Break-Down on Halo 2(Vista)

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#1 isaach11687
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GameSpot Review

    9.4 superb

Gameplay 10

Graphics 9

Sound 10

Value 9

Tilt 9

 

GameSpot Review

     7.0 good

Gameplay 7

Graphics 6

Sound 8

Value 7

Tilt 7

Now we see two reviews. In one, theres a 9.4 and in another, a 7.0.

Lets break it down.

Gameplay:

     -Xbox: 10

     -PC:7

In Jeff's review, he stated that the auto-aim significantly lower the fun. Did he have to use it though? He said there was an option to use M/KB. He said using the M/KB was a disadvantage. This makes no sense to me. Having pinpoint accuracy is always better then using a pad. Even with auto-aim, people with pads will still have a disadvantage to a KB/M. At least that is what PC gamers say. Correct? A well rounded KB/M player will always beat a pad play. Pad players do no have that much freedom. I think Jeff wasn't the greatest at the game and maybe never had the opportunity to see what pinpoint accuracy can do. So from 10 to 7 the autoaim caused a 3 point deduction from one problem. Remember now, the story isn't in this option. It's gameplay which means how well the "Game plays."

Graphics:

     -Xbox: 9

     -PC: 6

Agreed. It is a 3 year old port with 3 year old graphics.

Sound:

     -Xbox: 10

     -PC: 8

I'm not sure how it went down so significantly. There wasn't any problems in the review. Marty McDonnell is a very good music composer and brought everything amazing from the original game back ro the PC. Maybe the PC supports a better sound quality. I don't know. But maybe a 9 would have been more thankful.

Value:

     -Xbox: 9

     -PC: 7

Agreed. It's a 3 year old game. But saying it is a bad story is just his opinion. I really enjoyed the story. I lovded the epic cut-scenes and intriging story line. But going by his opinion, he did not enjoy it at all. It still has the great multiplayer with a new addition of a Map maker.

Tilt:

     -Xbox: 9

     -PC: 7

Ususally the tilt takes everything in the game and pretty much determines the reviewers experience. Taking in the fact that he didn't enjoy the story, didn't like the auto-aim, and thought it wasn't at a PC FPS standards makes his tilt a 7.

Conclusion:

Now after seeing everything from the review compared to the original games ratings, I will try to sway the rating in a positive look at the game.

Gameplay: 8

     -By reading the review, the only thing i see is the auto-aim being a con. That still shouldn't lower the rating 3 points. Maybe Jeff just doesn't enjoy the gameplay from Halo. Which would be his opinion and is he right.

Graphics: 6

Sound: 9

     -Since nothing really became a probablem and the orignal had great sound, i do not see why this game didn't have just as good sound as the xbox version.

Value: 8

     -Lets say someone really enjoys the games story and loves the new map maker. Just opinion.

Tilt: 8

     -Like above, if someone enjoys the gameplay and the story then the tilt possibly should be higher.

Review: 8.1

I believe that this score would have been a better result for Halo 2 on the PC. It takes the opinion of an average gamer who would pick up this game for the first time.

PS: Remember review scores never made a game better. Scores are just for fancy. Good games are determind by the player.

 
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#2 XaosII
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An average shooter deserves an average score. Not much else to say.
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An average shooter deserves an average score. Not much else to say.XaosII

Alegebra day!

3 year old game = Average Shooter

Average Shooter = Average score

I agree with you.

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sorry but it was pretty average 3 years ago as well.
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sorry but it was pretty average 3 years ago as well.loonski

Do you have reasoning?

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His complaint about the auto aim is that it's there for controller users but not Keyboard/Mouse users, making the multiplayer unbalanced. The controller is essentially a hack in Halo 2.
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My breakdown of it:
In perfect agreeance with most reviewers.

I see no graphical reason this "Needs vista!" to operate, and studders in quite a few places. It's got a very bad story and it's level desine in singleplayer is lazy.  There's that odd thing about the autoaim and it's gameplay just doesn't feel right... on xbox or pc. Personally, this score is what the original halo 2 should have gotten.

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His complaint about the auto aim is that it's there for controller users but not Keyboard/Mouse users, making the multiplayer unbalanced. The controller is essentially a hack in Halo 2.TyrantDragon55

If you are a good KB/M player then is it really a disadvantage? I believe if you give a KB/M player without autoaim but with pinpoint accuracy on a mouse the same amount of time as the xbox Halo 2 players, then the KB/M players will quote on quote "Own" the xbox players.A skilled PC player with always own a pad user. Thats why the autoaim is essential.

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My breakdown of it:
In perfect agreeance with most reviewers.

 

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I can name 4 million players who disagree.

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His complaint about the auto aim is that it's there for controller users but not Keyboard/Mouse users, making the multiplayer unbalanced. The controller is essentially a hack in Halo 2.TyrantDragon55
I don't see how that works, after playing Halo 2 and 3 online there is no way a controller with autoaim would give you any advantage over keyboard and mouse unless the turned up the autoaim for the PC version.
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[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]His complaint about the auto aim is that it's there for controller users but not Keyboard/Mouse users, making the multiplayer unbalanced. The controller is essentially a hack in Halo 2.pundog
I don't see how that works, after playing Halo 2 and 3 online there is no way a controller with autoaim would give you any advantage over keyboard and mouse unless the turned up the autoaim for the PC version.

From hearing opinions on the game from people who have played it, it is the same auto-aim in halo 2.

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If I were Jeff, I would've given it an even lower score. I'm about halfway through the game and can safely say that this was not a good Xbox-to-PC port. It's merely an average game. It has mediocre graphics (basically, it's a high resolution Halo 2), uninteresting gameplay, and boring level design. The music and sound effects are good, though.
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[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]His complaint about the auto aim is that it's there for controller users but not Keyboard/Mouse users, making the multiplayer unbalanced. The controller is essentially a hack in Halo 2.isaach11687

I don't see how that works, after playing Halo 2 and 3 online there is no way a controller with autoaim would give you any advantage over keyboard and mouse unless the turned up the autoaim for the PC version.

From hearing opinions on the game from people who have played it, it is the same auto-aim in halo 2.

I was just playing Halo 3 (same overall feel of Halo 2), and believe me there is absolutely no way a controller with the same autoaim has any advantage over kb/m, they are definitely at a disadvantage.

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[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]His complaint about the auto aim is that it's there for controller users but not Keyboard/Mouse users, making the multiplayer unbalanced. The controller is essentially a hack in Halo 2.pundog
I don't see how that works, after playing Halo 2 and 3 online there is no way a controller with autoaim would give you any advantage over keyboard and mouse unless the turned up the autoaim for the PC version.

It does when you consider that your reticle will follow a player when he's jumping, or snap over someone when you're within melee range. A skilled player could probably compensate but that doesn't mean the other player doesn't have a slight edge. 

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[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]His complaint about the auto aim is that it's there for controller users but not Keyboard/Mouse users, making the multiplayer unbalanced. The controller is essentially a hack in Halo 2.TyrantDragon55

I don't see how that works, after playing Halo 2 and 3 online there is no way a controller with autoaim would give you any advantage over keyboard and mouse unless the turned up the autoaim for the PC version.

It does when you consider that your reticle will follow a player when he's jumping, or snap over someone when you're within melee range. A skilled player could probably compensate but that doesn't mean the other player doesn't have a slight edge. 

Jeff exagerated the auto-aim. Yes it's there but not like what he described. It doesn't snap over to a player so you can melee him

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Are you kidding me? Halo is a mediocre game next to the likes of HL and many other PC FPS's. Get over it. PC Gamers just don't care about a 3 year old console FPS.

Way to waste your time.

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[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]His complaint about the auto aim is that it's there for controller users but not Keyboard/Mouse users, making the multiplayer unbalanced. The controller is essentially a hack in Halo 2.TyrantDragon55

I don't see how that works, after playing Halo 2 and 3 online there is no way a controller with autoaim would give you any advantage over keyboard and mouse unless the turned up the autoaim for the PC version.

It does when you consider that your reticle will follow a player when he's jumping, or snap over someone when you're within melee range. A skilled player could probably compensate but that doesn't mean the other player doesn't have a slight edge. 

If it is the same autoaim as the one in Halo 2/3 on the Xbox/360 then the controller users are at a disadvantage, because unless you have the two single worst gamers in the history of mankind fighting eachother the Halo autoaim will not give you an advantage over kb/m.
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[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]

[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]His complaint about the auto aim is that it's there for controller users but not Keyboard/Mouse users, making the multiplayer unbalanced. The controller is essentially a hack in Halo 2.isaach11687

I don't see how that works, after playing Halo 2 and 3 online there is no way a controller with autoaim would give you any advantage over keyboard and mouse unless the turned up the autoaim for the PC version.

It does when you consider that your reticle will follow a player when he's jumping, or snap over someone when you're within melee range. A skilled player could probably compensate but that doesn't mean the other player doesn't have a slight edge.

Jeff exagerated the auto-aim. Yes it's there but not like what he described. It doesn't snap over to a player so you can melee him

If it's anything like the X Box version than it does something similar. You can melee someone in Halo 2 without your reticle even being over them.

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[QUOTE="isaach11687"]
[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]

[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]His complaint about the auto aim is that it's there for controller users but not Keyboard/Mouse users, making the multiplayer unbalanced. The controller is essentially a hack in Halo 2.TyrantDragon55

I don't see how that works, after playing Halo 2 and 3 online there is no way a controller with autoaim would give you any advantage over keyboard and mouse unless the turned up the autoaim for the PC version.

It does when you consider that your reticle will follow a player when he's jumping, or snap over someone when you're within melee range. A skilled player could probably compensate but that doesn't mean the other player doesn't have a slight edge.

Jeff exagerated the auto-aim. Yes it's there but not like what he described. It doesn't snap over to a player so you can melee him

If it's anything like the X Box version than it does something similar. You can melee someone in Halo 2 without your reticle even being over them.

Yes its like it but a KB/M player could easily out-gun a pad player. Its a good balancing method.

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Are you kidding me? Halo is a mediocre game next to the likes of HL and many other PC FPS's. Get over it. PC Gamers just don't care about a 3 year old console FPS.

Way to waste your time.

mismajor99

Thanks for your opinion. I did not enjoy Half-Life. WHAT!?! Yes i did not enjoy it. Sorry to burst your bubble but eveyone has an opinion. By the way, i think you wasted more time posting in this thread. Thanks for the free bump!

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#21 mismajor99
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[QUOTE="mismajor99"]

Are you kidding me? Halo is a mediocre game next to the likes of HL and many other PC FPS's. Get over it. PC Gamers just don't care about a 3 year old console FPS.

Way to waste your time.

isaach11687

Thanks for your opinion. I did not enjoy Half-Life. WHAT!?! Yes i did not enjoy it. Sorry to burst your bubble but eveyone has an opinion. By the way, i think you wasted more time posting in this thread. Thanks for the free bump!

Your entitled to your opinion, and I'm fine with that. My point is that you shouldn't have wasted your time writing up such a long post, if you enjoy playing Halo, that's all that counts. Who cares about what game scores what. All these Halo 2 threads are just absolutely over exhausting.