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#1 nini200
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I have a Wii and a PS3. I play the Wii everyday but rarely play the PS3. Just me being honest, not bashing or anything. From my personal experience from playing the Wii, and then playing the HD consoles, I can honestly say that HD is nice but I can have fun without it. I, for one, can say that I wouldn't mind if the Wii had an HD update though. I won't speak for all the Wii gamers here but for me at least, Graphics are good to have along with Great Gameplay. You'd notice that everytime a graphically good game comes out on the Wii,the Wii forums light up massively and those games are hyped to no extentfor instance Monster HunterTri, Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare: Reflex, Metroid Prime TrilogyandResident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles so I, for one would be lying out of my teeth for saying that graphics aren't good to have just to justify the Wii's one issue (Graphics, which are good but not HD). This is coming from a Nintendo fan since the 80's, can't say since the beginning seeing as how Nintendo is over 100 years old. Anyway,Not bashing any console here but HD is nice.

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#2 topgunmv
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Where's your thesis statement?

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#3 Lionheart08
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I agree. Good graphics isn't as make or break as Hardcore fanboys make it on here, but speaking fro experience, really good graphics does help to increase the overall experience. It's no different then people who loved the special effects the first time they saw The Matrix.

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#4 Dystopian-X
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I have a Wii and a PS3. I play the Wii everyday but rarely play the PS3. Just me being honest, not bashing or anything. From my personal experience from playing the Wii, and then playing the HD consoles, I can honestly say that HD is nice but I can have fun without it. I, for one, can say that I wouldn't mind if the Wii had an HD update though. I won't speak for all the Wii gamers here but for me at least, Graphics are good to have along with Great Gameplay. Anyway,Not bashing any console here but HD is nice.

nini200

Well I guess that's all there is to be said.

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#5 LordQuorthon
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The funny thing about the HD consoles is that the games that sort of defined them, the ones people will be talking about in the future, like Metal Gear Solid 4, Call of Duty 4, Halo 3, and both Gears of War games all run in sub-HD resolutions.

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#6 Dystopian-X
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The funny thing about the HD consoles is that the games that sort of defined them, the ones people will be talking about in the future, like Metal Gear Solid 4, Call of Duty 4, Halo 3, and both Gears of War games all run in sub-HD resolutions.

LordQuorthon

GeoW isn't "sub-HD" Also the Wii can't even pull those "sub-HD" resolutions either. Just saying.

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#7 oajlu
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what tv do you have?

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#8 110million
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HD looks too amazing for me to not want it in every game, the Wii looks considerably worse, the games are still fun, but some atari games are still fun, graphics have nothing to do with it, but HD graphics are amazing in a lot of games, and to want less would be.. stupid.
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The funny thing about the HD consoles is that the games that sort of defined them, the ones people will be talking about in the future, like Metal Gear Solid 4, Call of Duty 4, Halo 3, and both Gears of War games all run in sub-HD resolutions.

LordQuorthon

HD is nice to have but not really needed, but what seperates the games you mentioned from the wii games are the way they run on more powerful consoles, and the number of things going on.

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#10 LordQuorthon
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HD is nice to have but not really needed, but what seperates the games you mentioned from the wii games are the way they run on more powerful consoles, and the number of things going on.

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Awesome. Too bad all I see is brown.

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#11 110million
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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

HD is nice to have but not really needed, but what seperates the games you mentioned from the wii games are the way they run on more powerful consoles, and the number of things going on.

LordQuorthon

Awesome. Too bad all I see is brown.

Welcome to 2006, where your comment is almost relevant.
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#12 PSdual_wielder
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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

HD is nice to have but not really needed, but what seperates the games you mentioned from the wii games are the way they run on more powerful consoles, and the number of things going on.

LordQuorthon

Awesome. Too bad all I see is brown.

Are you referring to Killzone 2? If so then I'm not going to bother.

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The problem with the Wii isn't the graphics, it's the (crap) games.
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The problem with the Wii isn't the graphics, it's the (crap) games.Jandurin
Oh no you didn't D;. "Runs from the herd before listing over 9000 different games with dubious quality"

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#15 gago-gago
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I agree, graphics isn't everything. I can still pop in an old game like Battlefront 2 and still have fun without caring about the graphics.

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The problem with the Wii isn't the graphics, it's the (crap) games.Jandurin
i couldnt agree with u more......do we have to bring back the whole kiddy statments from Gamecube?
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#17 mouz1989
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The problem with the Wii isn't the graphics, it's the (crap) games.Jandurin

To be fair this is only half true, there a quite a few really good games on the wii witch i play all the time (just so you know i prefer the 360 overall) but the bad games outway the good buy miles, but what many of the games i think are bad 5-10 year olds think are amazing. which isnt necessarily a bad thing. youve got to start some were

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]The problem with the Wii isn't the graphics, it's the (crap) games.mouz1989

To be fair this is only half true, there a quite a few really good games on the wii witch i play all the time (just so you know i prefer the 360 overall) but the bad games outway the good buy miles, but what many of the games i think are bad 5-10 year olds think are amazing. which isnt necessarily a bad thing. youve got to start some were

lol @ underlined statement. It's just that even the "good" games are nowhere near as good as the "good" games on the other systems. That said, there are a few Wii games which blow 95-100% of the other system's games out of the water. and by "a few", I mean 2.
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My 50" plasma craves HD games. I wouldn't dare subject it to 480p. :P

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#20 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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My 50" plasma craves HD games. I wouldn't dare subject it to 480p. :P

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you got a new tv? :o
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My 50" plasma craves HD games. I wouldn't dare subject it to 480p. :P

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Well I could strap you down to a chair and make you watch VHS tapes through your 50" plasma via an coax line :P
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Well I could strap you down to a chair and make you watch VHS tapes through your 50" plasma via an coax line :PWasdie
it'd be more sinister to make him play PS3 games through a coaxial connection. i guess you'd need a composite to coax converter just to pull that off? :lol:
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#23 Teuf_
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

My 50" plasma craves HD games. I wouldn't dare subject it to 480p. :P

Jandurin

you got a new tv? :o

Oh yes. This one.

I think it makes me the new president of teh plasma club. 8)

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#24 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

My 50" plasma craves HD games. I wouldn't dare subject it to 480p. :P

you got a new tv? :o

Oh yes. This one.

I think it makes me the new president of teh plasma club. 8)

:o what the hell does "mega contrast" even mean? :P
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My issue with the Wii is not the graphics but the horrible control scheme of the Wii-mote and the dire gameplay on most of its games. I realise that not everyone will agree with me but thats my opinion of the damned thing (and yes I hate super mario bros too)
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#26 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

My 50" plasma craves HD games. I wouldn't dare subject it to 480p. :P

you got a new tv? :o

you got back? :o
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#27 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

My 50" plasma craves HD games. I wouldn't dare subject it to 480p. :P

blue_hazy_basic
you got a new tv? :o

you got back? :o

safe and sound with all limbs and fingers/toes in the correct places!
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Jandurin
safe and sound with all limbs and fingers/toes in the correct places!

Good to have you back, we expect photos! I feel like this thread has gone badly OT and I feel I was a little harsh on the Wii perhaps in my previous statement I did quite enjoy play wii resorts for a couple of hours but thats about it in a long long time ...
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#29 mouz1989
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[QUOTE="mouz1989"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]The problem with the Wii isn't the graphics, it's the (crap) games.Jandurin

To be fair this is only half true, there a quite a few really good games on the wii witch i play all the time (just so you know i prefer the 360 overall) but the bad games outway the good buy miles, but what many of the games i think are bad 5-10 year olds think are amazing. which isnt necessarily a bad thing. youve got to start some were

lol @ underlined statement. It's just that even the "good" games are nowhere near as good as the "good" games on the other systems. That said, there are a few Wii games which blow 95-100% of the other system's games out of the water. and by "a few", I mean 2.

whoops, bk to school 4 me lol, gotta give me some slack 13 hour shifts can turn wisdom intosloppy grammer ;P and when i saya few i mean 3 or 4. common give the wii more credit than that ;)

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#30 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

My 50" plasma craves HD games. I wouldn't dare subject it to 480p. :P

you got a new tv? :o

Oh yes. This one.

I think it makes me the new president of teh plasma club. 8)

*looks at link* I have teh jealously!
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#31 donalbane
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I'm guessing the TC has a tiny TV. If not, perhaps he's just a die-hard Nintendo fan, of which there are many. Personally, I love High Def. But don't forget, HD gaming didn't start this generation... PC gamers have been playing on high resolutions for many years prior to the 360's launch. It's nice to see someone prefer the Wii to an HD console, but personally, I'm a graphics snob. I never buy Wii games anymore because they look horrible, and no devs do anything that great with the controls. (Here's hoping Red Steel 2 turns that around.)
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

My 50" plasma craves HD games. I wouldn't dare subject it to 480p. :P

Teufelhuhn

you got a new tv? :o

Oh yes. This one.

I think it makes me the new president of teh plasma club. 8)

i just bought this one over black friday for $1009 with a free bluray player....best deal ive seen

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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

HD is nice to have but not really needed, but what seperates the games you mentioned from the wii games are the way they run on more powerful consoles, and the number of things going on.

LordQuorthon

Awesome. Too bad all I see is brown.

Probably need to get your eyes checked then. That's a bad sign if all you see is brown.
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#34 nini200
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I'm guessing the TC has a tiny TV. If not, perhaps he's just a die-hard Nintendo fan, of which there are many. Personally, I love High Def. But don't forget, HD gaming didn't start this generation... PC gamers have been playing on high resolutions for many years prior to the 360's launch. It's nice to see someone prefer the Wii to an HD console, but personally, I'm a graphics snob. I never buy Wii games anymore because they look horrible, and no devs do anything that great with the controls. (Here's hoping Red Steel 2 turns that around.)donalbane
I guess, if you consider 62 inches small. I am a die-hard Nintendo fan but I do realize that HD is nice and me saying otherwise is just fanboyism. I've found the controls in most games to be great but that's because I'm willing to put the time into learning them. I admit, you can't just pick up the Wii-mote and Nunchuck and master the controls in a matter of minutes like you can with a controller but once you take the time to actually learn them, in most games I play, I can't go back to normal controls, it makes me feel to constraint. Especially FPS. When I pick up a HD consoles controller and play a FPS and see the fixed crosshairs, it is really constraining to me. That's just my opinion though.
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#35 110million
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My 50" plasma craves HD games. I wouldn't dare subject it to 480p. :P

Teufelhuhn
Pretty much, I mean, I got all 3 of the current-gen consoles hooked up to my HDTV, I'm not going to hook up the Wii to a seprate TV.. Wii graphics are for the most part, fairly bad, on a stretched resolution, its quite a bit worse, I shoulden't have to use one console differently..
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il stick to my psbox thank you :D - the wii just annoys me
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#37 HavocV3
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Gameplay always comes first.

Graphics this and that is an ignorant mentality. Let's just watch a movie then, because that's what detail is. Movies must be THE best video games also.

gameplay is still first-thing. I have an Xbox, and no, I've always gone by gameplay...an MMO I quit playing always had crappy graphics, but I preferred it for the gameplay and was never bothered by the graphics. So that's where my gameplay mentality came from.

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#38 Sword-Demon
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I dont find HD necessary at all (except when playing an HD game with small text).

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#39 VendettaRed07
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Of course you don't need to have hd for gaming to be fun. But come on... if the wii had hd graphics that would be a total plus for the system and make alot of games more enjoyable because videogames are just a visual experience lol

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#40 monson21502
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I agree. Good graphics isn't as make or break as Hardcore fanboys make it on here, but speaking fro experience, really good graphics does help to increase the overall experience. It's no different then people who loved the special effects the first time they saw The Matrix.

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not sure what it is. but i cant go back and play last gen systems after i have spent time on the current gens games. ever since games went from 2D to 3D models or what ever its called. i just cant do it. think thats why i couldnt play my wii after i bought my first hd system this gen which was ps3. im used to having systems close in power both hooked up to my tv. like the nes/master system, snes/sega gen, n64/ps1**didnt own a saturn**, gamecube/dreamcast/ps2/xbox, the wii broke that streak and might cause it happen again next gen and maybe forever.... having the big 3 focus more on gimmick then power
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#41 bri360
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Of course u can have fun without HD, how do u think ppl played on all consoles leading up to this gens. HD isnt necessary its just a logical improvement. Its one of those things i dont rly need but now I couldnt never go back to SD either.

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#42 shawn7324
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I love HD & would much rather stick with it than without it.

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I think it has a lot to do with my upbringing. We didn't have much money, and I didn't even have a color TV until I was 12. HD is really cool, but no. I can easily live without it, and game in SD.
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#44 shawn7324
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I think it has a lot to do with my upbringing. We didn't have much money, and I didn't even have a color TV until I was 12. HD is really cool, but no. I can easily live without it, and game in SD.cainetao11
Yeah I didn't have anything growing up either & could live without a lot of things, however if I don't have to I'm not going to. If you can afford a game console then you should be able to pick up a HDTV.
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#45 jsmoke03
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you my friend are a minority. i cant see 5 games i would want on the wii...its why i'm skipping it this gen. i don't normally like 2 do that...but that god awful controls....it was fun for 10 minutes....

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#46 nini200
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you my friend are a minority. i cant see 5 games i would want on the wii...its why i'm skipping it this gen. i don't normally like 2 do that...but that god awful controls....it was fun for 10 minutes....

jsmoke03
Are you basing the complete system controls off of Wii Sports? I'm perfectly fine with being a minority as I don't like to be like everyone else anyway. Where's the fun in that? Anyway, what game(s) have you played that you're basing your statement off of?
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yeah HD is extremely overrated and i cant believe people treat HD like some game changing experience....i used to play 360 and PS3 on SDTV and had same amount of fun as i have now playing on HDTV...its the same exact experience

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#48 Filthybastrd
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Graphics certainly don't make games but every single Wii game does look somewhat underwhelming; enough to be gamebreaking imo.

yeah HD is extremely overrated and i cant believe people treat HD like some game changing experience....i used to play 360 and PS3 on SDTV and had same amount of fun as i have now playing on HDTV...its the same exact experience

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Well, yes. The resolution is'nt the only graphical difference between the Wii and the HD consoles.

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#49 sikanderahmed
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Graphics certainly don't make games but every single Wii game does look somewhat underwhelming; enough to be gamebreaking imo.

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

yeah HD is extremely overrated and i cant believe people treat HD like some game changing experience....i used to play 360 and PS3 on SDTV and had same amount of fun as i have now playing on HDTV...its the same exact experience

Filthybastrd

Well, yes. The resolution is'nt the only graphical difference between the Wii and the HD consoles.

yes thats why i always say that having "Wii HD" wont make any difference other thenmake crap wii graphics look a bit more clear

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#50 Filthybastrd
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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Graphics certainly don't make games but every single Wii game does look somewhat underwhelming; enough to be gamebreaking imo.

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

yeah HD is extremely overrated and i cant believe people treat HD like some game changing experience....i used to play 360 and PS3 on SDTV and had same amount of fun as i have now playing on HDTV...its the same exact experience

sikanderahmed

Well, yes. The resolution is'nt the only graphical difference between the Wii and the HD consoles.

yes thats why i always say that having "Wii HD" wont make any difference other thenmake crap wii graphics look a bit more clear

I always assumed that by "Wii HD" people meant a Wii 1.5. You know, 720p graphics, B/C and a bit of extra power to make the HD capability worth something. A plain HD Wii is rather pointless.