My issues with these so called AMAZING titles/technology

SPLINTER CELL: CONVICTION

Okay, Lets start with Splinter Cell Convictions. WTH happened? Stealth is thrown out and replaced with uncharted mechanics....Ubisoft might aswell rename that game( Uncharted: We couldn't think of anything else.)

So much for carrying the tag (true stealth)...i'm honestly NOT suprised, They looked at whats popular out there and just did it, knowing it wouldn't match MGS or any other game with its previous efforts/style of gameplay. How else to wow the audience than to change the mechanics completely into an action game. Now SC looks like every other Gears/Uncharted wannabe out there. Honestly sick of these new sequals using those aspects...and that now brings me to Halo ODST.

HALO 3: ODST

WTF is this? A reskined Halo 3 with barely if any gameplay mechanic changes (action gunplay/additions to gameplay/animations) And this is what i was afraid of, i've given Halo 3 enough crap regarding how its too much like Halo 2 gameplay wise, and i'll let that pass, but ODST with all the influences out there and competition they stuck with the same crap, and now what with this horrid story of needing to explore a massive city to find clues, with some AI giving you directions? Bungie could have atleast gave it a fresh look and its unique gameplay eliments for the simple fact that you're NOT the chief but marines with different styles and tactic..but NOOO, lets make it play like chief and just add or rip of the horde mode the left side of the screen 3rd person camera system (gears/uncharted) that should be enough. then again bungie don't have to try, they have enough nostalgic fans to eat it up, just to keep the game on TOP, even tho they have there critisisms...cute.

BTW bungie..get a new graphics engine...its getting real stale. the art work just isn't impressive.

ALAN WAKE

another game that just rips of the mechanics of Uncharted/gears with its own additions of course... and just adds some weird looking ghosts and some great atmosphere. I honestly expected something fresh and different mechanics, but no..another game that looks to be heavy on shooting.

Now enough about that..now to MS Natal garbage.

PROJECT NATAL:

WTH is this ****?

a wannabe eyetoy...just advanced, with some dream of it being the next big thing in gaming...LOL. GTFO, this is just an answer to what nintendo has done from the get go, MS just mindlessly needed something to stick out, so they rushed it and set them self a huge goal which looks doubtfull to reach, so they shot out with some supposably fake real tech demo and a preview of a family enjoying it. (straight rip off from the wii commercials)

like someone said earlier, i'm willing to bet its just something to get people to NOT talk about the wii and what it has done. I'm am willing to bet much more that the final product won't be what was originally claimed..it will be some casual party tool that hardcore gamers won't care about since it won't even work right, with standard games. I'M honestly real surprised at everyone riding on this hype...considering it isn't even running any game and just isn't REAL for that matter..but already claim it will change gaming as we know it. LOL. MS hasn't even thought the project through and just seem to be dreaming of what the possibilitys could be. Trust them with some hardware/software knowing what they produced with the RROD. Worlds worst console fault everrrr!!!

before you go..bu bu teh sony is da worse....lets take a look:

Sony's Motion wiimote:

Yes, its a a wiimote rip off, yes it isn't something new...but Sony actually played this one smart, not only did they adopt a popular motion controller design..but they perfected it and just made it work better, something the wii mote should have been like from the get go. 1:1 detection and just seems incredible when demoed. We know it will work, because the wiimote works...so we can base it off that and with the needed modifcations and adjustments it'll be incredible with certain games.

okay...thats it, keep in mind this is MY opinion, feel free to critisize and do what you all do best to impress one another.

So, all things MS bad, all things sony good?

Your a cow, and no one cares about what you think or say

Immortalzxx

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I stopped reading at 'by Slambo86'

I mean, you're only the biggest Sony fanboy in System Wars, so this is no surprise for me.

Well, I agree with you that these AMAZING games, really aren't doing anything new. It's basically just the same old shooting games with moderately improved graphics. It makes me angry that people just eat this stuff up. But whatever. I don't have to buy the games if I don't want to.

I think Natal is a pretty amazing idea, but I'm not totally sold on it. There are some things you just need a controller for. So, we'll just have to wait and see with that one.

So much for carrying the tag (true stealth)...i'm honestly NOT suprised, They looked at whats popular out there and just did it, knowing it wouldn't match MGS or any other game with its previous efforts/style of gameplay. How else to wow the audience than to change the mechanics completely into an action game. Now SC looks like every other Gears/Uncharted wannabe out there. Honestly sick of these new sequals using those aspects...and that now brings me to Halo ODST.

HALO 3: ODST

WTF is this? A reskined Halo 3 with barely if any gameplay mechanic changes (action gunplay/additions to gameplay/animations) And this is what i was afraid of, i've given Halo 3 enough crap regarding how its too much like Halo 2 gameplay wise, and i'll let that pass, but ODST with all the influences out there and competition they stuck with the same crap, and now what with this horrid story of needing to explore a massive city to find clues, with some AI giving you directions? Bungie could have atleast gave it a fresh look and its unique gameplay eliments for the simple fact that you're NOT the chief but marines with different **** and tactic..but NOOO, lets make it play like chief and just add or rip of the horde mode the left side of the screen 3rd person camera system (gears/uncharted) that should be enough. then again bungie don't have to try, they have enough nostalgic fans to eat it up, just to keep the game on TOP, even tho they have there critisisms...cute.

BTW bungie..get a new graphics engine...its getting real stale. the art work just isn't impressive.

Slambo86

You once made a thread about changes you wanted to see implemented into the next Halo game, which included such things as a sprint button, prone, and alot of other tweaks that many agreed would make the game like CoD or something similar.

Now, you're criticising Halo for maintaining the Halo feel, while saying SC is trying to copy off another franchise? CAN YOU NOT SEE HOW HYPOCRITICAL THAT SOUNDS?

It doesn't sound like you'd be happy with the games no matter how they turn out.

Also, my opinion is that Halo has very impressive artwork. It's easily one of the most colorful and recognizable shooters this gen -perhaps you meant to say the engine itself isn't very impressive?

It's amazing that fanboys like you actually need to write walls of text to justify why they think their console is the best. Let me tear that wall down.

Firstly, I'm not a Splinter Cell fan at all, and know nothing about this new game, but I gather from what you said that they have introduced a cover system. So you say, Oh it's just another GeOW rip off. But you don't seem to think that Uncharted is a Gears rip off (which it isn't of course). It's like you think every game which was released after 2006 with a cover system is instantly a GeOW rip off (with the convenient exception of Uncharted). For God's sake, GeOW wasn't even the first game to introduce that mechanic, so what you said is entirely pointless. And what's wrong with Splinter Cell changing a little bit? Nothing. If you don't like change, GTFO.

Secondly, how different do you expect ODST to be from Halo 3? Realistically it's an expansion, but of course there are going to be changes, just not a massive leap. Bagging out the graphics engine? I think Halo 3 looks great, certainly not top of the cl@ss but it's a clean graphical 's'tyle that works just fine for me. And how can you claim anything that you've said about ODST to even be true, you obviously haven't played, nobody has played the finished product. You are jumping to unfounded conclusions, something that fanboys like yourself are very good at doing.

Thirdly, I must admit I don't know anything about Alan Wake either, apart from the fact that it's an Xbox 360 exclusive, and you are claiming that it's crap. What a coincidence. Again your "mechanic rip-off" argument is invalid. What really makes me laugh is that you actually complain about a game by saying it's "heavy on shooting". What sense does that make when you have a sig that talk about Killzone 2 killing Halo? Seriously dude, WTF!?

Now I have to agree with you on project Natal, I too am very sceptical about it. But what you said puts the icing on the fanboy cake. You go on saying, 'Oh this is a total Wii rip off, they'll only use it for casual games and they want to reach goals that are unrealistic'.

Most of that I agree with, but of course I'm not going to jump to conclusions as we really don't know what will happen. But then you said at one point "It's an eyetoy rip off, just more advanced", as well as saying how bad it looks. But then you turn around and say that Sony's Motion sensor controllers are OK, when they too are infact "A rip off, just more advanced". So you say one thing about Microsoft, and turn around and say the complete opposite about Sony for the exact same situation.

You are a blatant fanboy and your blind ways disgust me.

Take it easy guys

Slambo86 is probably in tears now

Good, he deserves it.

[QUOTE="Slambo86"]

So much for carrying the tag (true stealth)...i'm honestly NOT suprised, They looked at whats popular out there and just did it, knowing it wouldn't match MGS or any other game with its previous efforts/style of gameplay. How else to wow the audience than to change the mechanics completely into an action game. Now SC looks like every other Gears/Uncharted wannabe out there. Honestly sick of these new sequals using those aspects...and that now brings me to Halo ODST.

HALO 3: ODST

WTF is this? A reskined Halo 3 with barely if any gameplay mechanic changes (action gunplay/additions to gameplay/animations) And this is what i was afraid of, i've given Halo 3 enough crap regarding how its too much like Halo 2 gameplay wise, and i'll let that pass, but ODST with all the influences out there and competition they stuck with the same crap, and now what with this horrid story of needing to explore a massive city to find clues, with some AI giving you directions? Bungie could have atleast gave it a fresh look and its unique gameplay eliments for the simple fact that you're NOT the chief but marines with different **** and tactic..but NOOO, lets make it play like chief and just add or rip of the horde mode the left side of the screen 3rd person camera system (gears/uncharted) that should be enough. then again bungie don't have to try, they have enough nostalgic fans to eat it up, just to keep the game on TOP, even tho they have there critisisms...cute.

BTW bungie..get a new graphics engine...its getting real stale. the art work just isn't impressive.

Kickinurass

You once made a thread about changes you wanted to see implemented into the next Halo game, which included such things as a sprint button, prone, and alot of other tweaks that many agreed would make the game like CoD or something similar.

Now, you're criticising Halo for maintaining the Halo feel, while saying SC is trying to copy off another franchise? CAN YOU NOT SEE HOW HYPOCRITICAL THAT SOUNDS?

It doesn't sound like you'd be happy with the games no matter how they turn out.

Also, my opinion is that Halo has very impressive artwork. It's easily one of the most colorful and recognizable shooters this gen -perhaps you meant to say the engine itself isn't very impressive?

Good, he deserves it.

curtdoggLP5

Take it easy guys

Slambo86 is probably in tears now

Immortalzxx

What stupid points on ODST...walkingdream

Well, I agree with you that these AMAZING games, really aren't doing anything new. It's basically just the same old shooting games with moderately improved graphics. It makes me angry that people just eat this stuff up. But whatever. I don't have to buy the games if I don't want to.

I think Natal is a pretty amazing idea, but I'm not totally sold on it. There are some things you just need a controller for. So, we'll just have to wait and see with that one.

blankshore

[QUOTE="walkingdream"]What stupid points on ODST...Slambo86

Well, I agree with you that these AMAZING games, really aren't doing anything new. It's basically just the same old shooting games with moderately improved graphics. It makes me angry that people just eat this stuff up. But whatever. I don't have to buy the games if I don't want to.

I think Natal is a pretty amazing idea, but I'm not totally sold on it. There are some things you just need a controller for. So, we'll just have to wait and see with that one.

blankshore

Because making quadruple posts is totally cool. Ever heard of the edit option?

Your sig alone shows how much of a Sony fanboy/Halo hateboy you are.

Because making quadruple posts is totally cool. Ever heard of the edit option?

Your sig alone shows how much of a Sony fanboy/Halo hateboy you are.

Longcat2

yet you distoled the virtues of killzone 2 to a fault for the longest time, and you unsuprisingly pick a majority of 360 titles and only mention one ps3 thing and thats the motion camera...how bout you find some stuff wrong with some ps3 titles?

yet you distoled the virtues of killzone 2 to a fault for the longest time, and you unsuprisingly pick a majority of 360 titles and only mention one ps3 thing and thats the motion camera...how bout you find some stuff wrong with some ps3 titles?

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

yet you distoled the virtues of killzone 2 to a fault for the longest time, and you unsuprisingly pick a majority of 360 titles and only mention one ps3 thing and thats the motion camera...how bout you find some stuff wrong with some ps3 titles?

Slambo86

[QUOTE="Slambo86"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

yet you distoled the virtues of killzone 2 to a fault for the longest time, and you unsuprisingly pick a majority of 360 titles and only mention one ps3 thing and thats the motion camera...how bout you find some stuff wrong with some ps3 titles?

WilliamRLBaker

I disagree that MS copied anyone or rushed a gimmick with regard to Natal; this is a smart, synergistic move drawing from their vast research in visual and auditory recognition. It probably has more applications outside gaming than within it, and similar implementations exist in other products (MS Surface). But not only will this allow Microsoft to translate its research into immediate profits, it'll work the other way. Natal is as much an advertisement for this research as it is a derivative of it. There's no doubt that MS is going to be pushing its smart home projects HARD in the upcoming years, a natural progression for the company. And Natal is a natural derivative of that. I'm not excited about Natal, but I am excited about its descendents, which will give me the ability to name my home and interact with it by voice or motion anywhere within it. And Natal signals to consumers that these kinds of projects are ready to be implemented, and functional.

But as I said, I don't see it meshing particularly well with interactive ENTERTAINMENT at this point. Sony's motion controls put the emphasis on your hands, granting more accuracy where you need it. If the controls are 1:1 like in the tech demo, I don't think Natal can match it, and as the Wii shows us, inaccurate controls, even if more "natural," will increase rather than decrease the barrier between the gamer and the game. Wii controls are sufficient for fun minigames, but not for what Nintendo constantly promotes: a further erosion of the fourth wall. Accurate motion controls can do that, and in doing so can really add to the very narrative, very immersive experience we get from "hardcore" games.

[QUOTE="Longcat2"]

Because making quadruple posts is totally cool. Ever heard of the edit option?

Your sig alone shows how much of a Sony fanboy/Halo hateboy you are.

Slambo86

Your posts in general make it easy for me to determine you ARE THE BIGGEST COW IN THE HISTORY OF FOREVER.

[QUOTE="Slambo86"][QUOTE="Longcat2"]

Because making quadruple posts is totally cool. Ever heard of the edit option?

Your sig alone shows how much of a Sony fanboy/Halo hateboy you are.

Longcat2

Your posts in general make it easy for me to determine you ARE THE BIGGEST COW IN THE HISTORY OF FOREVER.

have fun with your glowsticks

have fun with your glowsticks

F4t4lity

And Cows wonder why they are the most hated faction on SW

They just like to ramble and will do anything to get a cheap bash on the competition

Immortalzxx

Fanboy moron, just accept it Splinter Cell and Alan Wake looked good and Natal is clearly more original than what Sony is pulling off.

Well, Alan Wake looks good to me at the least.

How many buttons does ball-on-a-stick have?

SPLINTER CELL: CONVICTION

Okay, Lets start with Splinter Cell Convictions. WTH happened? Stealth is thrown out and replaced with uncharted mechanics....Ubisoft might aswell rename that game( Uncharted: We couldn't think of anything else.)

So much for carrying the tag (true stealth)...i'm honestly NOT suprised, They looked at whats popular out there and just did it, knowing it wouldn't match MGS or any other game with its previous efforts/style of gameplay. How else to wow the audience than to change the mechanics completely into an action game. Now SC looks like every other Gears/Uncharted wannabe out there. Honestly sick of these new sequals using those aspects...and that now brings me to Halo ODST.

Slambo86

not sure if any of this has been confirmed or if its just speculation but if they have moved away from stealth then, after their constant stream of overhyped crap in recent years, i will never buy another ubisoft game again:evil: doubt they would be that stupid though tbh. theres a lot riding on this game ubi, dont balls it up ffs

So, all things MS bad, all things sony good?

goblaa

umm...what? it isn't the same thing. Halo has used that FORMULA for way to long. I'm just criticising SC for throwing out what looks to be what made it so damn good in the first place. I didn't say i hated the change, but did they have to just rip another game off and kill the core stealth mechanic? As for Halo's art work, it looks bland...and ugly, building, colors just look horrid. I have no idea what they're going for. the engine is impressive, model wise..everything else its become stale. IMO. Slambo86

So you're criticizing SC for throwing out gameplay elements that have been in place since its predecessors yet attacking Halo for not changing the award-winning gameplay that has made it one of the most popular series in gaming :?

You have no idea how either of the games will turn out, and at the moment it seems like you're mindlessly bashing the game on anything you can find.

Splinter Cell : Loving it.

Halo ODST : Hating it,they could have made a better game rather than copying and pasting Halo 1,2,3 into ODST.

Alan Wake : meh.....First off the graphics were over hyped by fabnoys(should have known/360 version).Second the gameplay is like just another resident evil,only a bit fast paced.I thought its a GTAs free roam + Heavy Rains intensity + Silent Hills horror game.

Natal/Sonys wiimote : meh...never been into this crap...

Leave Halo the same.... "Oh it's stale and sucky, and Bungie has no more ideas... blah blah blah"

Change Halo... "LOL BUngie knew Halo sucked so they had to change it up, only now it sucks even more"

Concerning Natal... MS has already sent dev kits to devs... Burnout Paradise is already playable using it.

LOL... Sony's "stick & ball" (it turns red when you cast fireballs :lol: ) is just a prototype and complete rip off of Nintendo.... AGAIN!

Sony is playing catch up in every aspect this gen.... Sales, Online Functionality, Motion Controls....

Sony "rumble is last gen"...... short time later... they incorporate rumble.

MS has Achievements.... Sony in their infinite wisdom create "Trophies"

Nintendo has a Wii-mote.... Sony makes their own ummm..... ugly stick and ball thingy.

Splinter Cell : Loving it.

Halo ODST : Hating it,they could have made a better game rather than copying and pasting Halo 1,2,3 into ODST.

Alan Wake : meh.....First off the graphics were over hyped by fabnoys(should have known/360 version).Second the gameplay is like just another resident evil,only a bit fast paced.I thought its a GTAs free roam + Heavy Rains intensity + Silent Hills horror game.

Natal/Sonys wiimote : meh...never been into this crap...

mcgreddy

ALAN WAKE >>>>>>HEAVY RAIN

and we'll see what looks better.... I'll post my ALAN WAKE - PC pics when it releases against your HEavy Rain pics..... still feel confident?

funny how TC tries to hidehis cow-ness by writing that he dislikes sony motion controller too :lol: dude Splinter Cell Conviction will own, how the hell is it like uncharted? just coz you can climb in uncharted and do the same in SC C doesnt mean its copying uncharted

lets make it play like chief and just add or rip of the horde mode the left side of the screen 3rd person camera system (gears/uncharted)Slambo86