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Mario.

What is intended to be an easy going, happy go lucky, cheeky scamp, just comes across as cloying and sycophantic to me.

It is the definitive mascot for Nintendo and perfectly encapsulates it’s design philosophy. Which is… Treat them like children. That way, they can’t be critical of the quality of the game design as it’s aimed at kids, so therefore has set a lower bar lower in terms of game complexity, both mechanically and thematically.

He is always wearing a stupid smug, self satisfied grin with the wide unblinking eyes of a physchopathic killer. His choice in women are mute timid beauty queens and he brutally strikes animals round the back of the head and slaughters wildlife by the million.

There’s nothing to relate Mario to a real human who has doubts, thoughts or emotions. Life for Mario is just one big long walk in the park. Sure he has to rescue the princess (first name irrelevant, apparently, she’s just a squeeze) but he never breaks a sweat and his dumb unflinching grinning mug never falters.

I hate Mario because he is a racist stereotype, cruel to animals and depiction of humanity that sidesteps any allusion to depth or complexity, in favour of simply grinning and being upbeat.

Sure, you can say "It's just a game, it's meant to be relaxing . Why are you taking it so seriously?!"

Well, because, as a creator of fiction and mass media, Nintendo has a responsibility to it's audience to both entertain and educate. Education isn't stupid spelling games or "can you say, 'bank'? B.A.N.K.". No. Education is preparing young minds for the horror that is real life, not coddling them into a primary coloured blanket of simplistic platitudes.

Mario is the most 2 dimensional character ever created and a detriment to human culture as a whole.

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#1 Fedor
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Mario is Hitler confirmed?

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#2  Edited By Jackamomo
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@fedor: The moustache is suspicious...

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#3 JustPlainLucas
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How can you not love that face, though?

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#4 True_Link
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Are you really complaining about characters in a media where you have KIDS playing mass murder games like the Battle Royale genre, call of duty, Battlefield and are constantly yelling on voice chat that they'll kill you and rape your mother? Like, for real? lol

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#5 lamprey263
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Adam Jensen ruins Deus Ex for me... that and the games just suck, but yeah, think I hate him the most.

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#6 Jackamomo
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@JustPlainLucas: it's when you shave him he gets really sinister.

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#7 uninspiredcup
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Be hard to top this prick.

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#8 onesiphorus
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I really do not see how this is even relevant to System Wars.

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#9  Edited By Jackamomo
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@uninspiredcup: that's a standard Capcom/Square Enix teenage 'heart-throb' character of know-it-all smugness I've come to expect from Japan as whole really.

TBH he could be any one of hundreds of characters. Call me racist, but I can't tell the difference.

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Lara croft. By far worst character ever. All she does is whine like oh oh this is sooo hard.

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#11 Fedor
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He besmirched Mario and therefore Nintendo. This post is about as System wars as it gets.

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#12 Robbie23
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Lightning from Final Fantasy 13.

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@onesiphorus said:

I really do not see how this is even relevant to System Wars.

He hates Nintendo, and hates it that they're not dead and Sega alive.

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#14 AcidTango
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I really hate this character

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#15 Jackamomo
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@FireEmblem_Man: When Nintendo puts out a game I want to play I might change my mind.

Sega still makes money! Sega are still cool! :'(

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#16 FireEmblem_Man
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@jackamomo: That's because Nintendo knows how to make money with their IP's, Sega sucked at promoting their's that wasn't Sonic

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I hate Wrench from Watch Dogs 2 man he is annoying.

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#18  Edited By Jackamomo
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I also can't stand Alys Brangwin but for completely different reasons.

It is because she represent the transition of every anime character ever into an assh*le.

Alys Brangwin - Smug
Alys Brangwin - Smug

Alis Landale - Likeable
Alis Landale - Likeable

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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@onesiphorus said:

I really do not see how this is even relevant to System Wars.

He hates Nintendo, and hates it that they're not dead and Sega alive.

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Nathan Drake and Geralt

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#21 dimebag667
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BOI!!!! That little punk ruined that game for me.

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@uninspiredcup said:

Be hard to top this prick.

Lol, well I guess we all have different taste.

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@jackamomo said:

I also can't stand Alys Brangwin but for completely different reasons.

It is because she represent the transition of every anime character ever into an assh*le.

Alys Brangwin - Smug
Alys Brangwin - Smug
Alis Landale - Likeable
Alis Landale - Likeable

Technically not Alis Landale. At least according to this pre-2000 Geocities page.

http://users.skynet.be/fa258499/beyondalgo/theory/alis-alys.html

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#24  Edited By Techhog89
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Why are Sony fanboys here so salty over everything related to Nintendo? Lmao

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#25 Jackamomo
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@techhog89: I have no opinion on Sony, they are a faceless corporation as far as I'm concerned. Nintendo's existence on the other hand, seems malevolent and offends me.

@uninspiredcup I know they're two different (fictional) people.

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#26 uninspiredcup
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@jackamomo: The limited character interpretation in the original Phantasy lends to it's outlandish otherworldly feel I think. Almost like you are (and sort of are) controlling mythical avatars of heroes.

I find it draws you in a million times more so than something like Mass Effect where every character is defined and every character has something to say and every character has a story-arc.

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#27 Jackamomo
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@uninspiredcup: quite.

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#28 Speeny
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I think some people dislike Sora from Kingdom Hearts. Too much of a "goody two-shoes" type of character.

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Who hates Mario?

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#30 uninspiredcup
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@jcrame10 said:

Who hates Mario?

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#31 mojito1988
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I hate Princess Peach.

30 years of saving that female dog and all Mario gets is a stupid kiss on the nose! (end of Super Mario 64) We all know she never gives it up.

Not only that, has she never heard of home security? No one gets kidnapped THAT MUCH!!

Princess Peach is the WORST.

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#32  Edited By Techhog89
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@jackamomo said:

@techhog89: I have no opinion on Sony, they are a faceless corporation as far as I'm concerned. Nintendo's existence on the other hand, seems malevolent and offends me.

@uninspiredcup I know they're two different (fictional) people.

Imagine being offended by a company existing.

Reminder that gaming as it is today would not exist if Nintendo and Mario never came along.

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#33  Edited By The_Deepblue
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I figured the OP would have Mario because it’s easy to dislike him. It’s also easy to like him. Characters in the Mario games are archetypes meant to convey a simple plot. Those games focus on gameplay. You’re not supposed to fall in love with Mario or feel some great empathy with him. You’re supposed to think about getting from point A to point B and have fun with the standard-setting platforming gameplay while doing it. I’d rather have an intentionally simple character than a pretentiously underdeveloped one. Game characters don’t have any real complexity. It doesn’t matter how many tear-jerking, infantile plot elements provoke these shallow characters to react, to emote. They’re all dull and lame.

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@uninspiredcup: that’s easy...Tidus.

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#35  Edited By deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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The OP is a bit heavy when he describes Mario as most despised, but Mario sure is a simplistic little fella, and a boring one at that lol.

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My most despised is just about any boy-band-looking guy from any Japanese game that has them.

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@JustPlainLucas said:

How can you not love that face, though?

Don't forget about the giant penis.

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#37  Edited By Jackamomo
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@uninspiredcup said:

I find it draws you in a million times more so than something like Mass Effect where every character is defined and every character has something to say and every character has a story-arc.

Mass Effect is a space opera and more like an extended version of Home and Away but Summer Bay is the cosmos.

Phantasy Star is an epic like Homer's Odyssey. I didn't realise Alys appeared to Rhys as Alis. How confusing.

@techhog89: Reminder that gaming as it is today would not exist if Nintendo and Mario never came along.

The above absurd statement is why I hate Nintendo. Not only do they put out inferior product. They have convinced many people they are a christlike figure within the industry of computer gaming when in fact they are it's biggest hindrance to progress.

I will elaborate in an essay I'm still working on.

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Rico from killzone is the obvious pick for me.

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#39 uninspiredcup
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Home And Away is better than Mass Effect.

Fucking squid aliens is nowhere near on the same level as Alf Stewart.

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#40 Jackamomo
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@uninspiredcup: Alf is an alien (but not the US sitcom puppet Alf), or a ghost... It got really weird towards the end.

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#41 Techhog89
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@jackamomo said:
@uninspiredcup said:

I find it draws you in a million times more so than something like Mass Effect where every character is defined and every character has something to say and every character has a story-arc.

Mass Effect is a space opera and more like an extended version of Home and Away but Summer Bay is the cosmos.

Phantasy Star is an epic like Homer's Odyssey. I didn't realise Alys appeared to Rhys as Alis. How confusing.

@techhog89: Reminder that gaming as it is today would not exist if Nintendo and Mario never came along.

The above absurd statement is why I hate Nintendo. Not only do they put out inferior product. They have convinced many people they are a christlike figure within the industry of computer gaming when in fact they are it's biggest hindrance to progress.

I will elaborate in an essay I'm still working on.

But it's a 100% true statement. Nintendo played a key role in how gaming has turned out today. How could anyone possibly deny that? You feel that they've contributed nothing to gaming in the past 40 years? Nothing at all?

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#42  Edited By Jackamomo
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@techhog89:But it's a 100% true statement. Nintendo played a key role in how gaming has turned out today.

They have undoubtably affected the gaming landscape, that is true. But only in the US and Japan with any significance and it's not really all that significant.

You can buy a Wii for £20 which is cool if you are dirt poor but you won't find anything worth playing on it.

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#43 Techhog89
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@jackamomo said:

@techhog89:But it's a 100% true statement. Nintendo played a key role in how gaming has turned out today.

They have undoubtably affected the gaming landscape, that is true. But only in the US and Japan with any significance and it's not really all that significant.

You can buy a Wii for £20 which is cool if you are dirt poor but you won't find anything worth playing on it.

lmao

This is the most insane case of reverse fanboyism I've ever seen.

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He does blink.

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I hate Princess Peach, I disliked since the original Mario Kart, but after the ending in Odyssey I realized that i hate her, that's why i was cool with that bowsette fad not for bowsette herself, just because Peach deserves to be treated the way she treats the people around her.

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@uninspiredcup said:

Home And Away is better than Mass Effect.

Fucking squid aliens is nowhere near on the same level as Alf Stewart.

As an Aussie all I can say is H&A is fucking embarrassing, and you've got to be a pommy right?

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#47  Edited By Raining51
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Mario! Well he's not e for everyone I guess.....

The voice actor who plays his him is pretty amazing though Ilearned about him some time ago his name is Charles Martinet and he's got a great personality IMO.

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#48  Edited By Jackamomo
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@raining51: The only version of Mario I like.

Bob mo-fo-ing Hoskins baby
Bob mo-fo-ing Hoskins baby

...was drunk all the way through filming.

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That annoying owl from Zelda OOT which never shuts up.