My take on Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts

Many of you will end up crying "Blog" but I think this is something everyone needs to understand.

There are a lot of people complaining that the vehicles are somehow going to make the game less of a platformer. In my opinion, adding fully customizable vehicles to the classic platforming aspects of a game only makes the platforming deeper. Half the fun in a platforming is find out how to get from point A to point B and then doing it. Add in on the fly vehicle creation and the possibilities and fun is endless. And don't think it will make the game any "easier" because I am sure that Rare recognizes and is planning that out. Just imagine the possibilties of vehicular platforming where the user can essentially create his/her own solution to various problems in the levels.

And from what has been said, it will also be possible to play the game without vehicles, but why would you when you can have so much fun messing around with different designs to solve different platforming puzzles.

Also, this game appears to be a return to something that needs to be focused on more in games... It is a return to FUN. It is a return to just pure amusement playing a game. And that is exactly what a Banjo game needed to be.

I enjoyed watching the spring loaded boxing glove work as a weapon and then work as a way to jump. That kind of design ability caught my interest.-RPGamer-

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]I enjoyed watching the spring loaded boxing glove work as a weapon and then work as a way to jump. That kind of design ability caught my interest.THE_Rob_Himself

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/33904.html

that trailer. It also had a tiny bit of cla ssic platforming.

and it reinforces my idea that the vehicles will be used to augment the platforming, not make the game into some massive racing game.

I'm all for changing things up abit...but not at the cost of taking out most of the platforming sections to focus on vehicles.

I'm on the fence.

I enjoyed watching the spring loaded boxing glove work as a weapon and then work as a way to jump. That kind of design ability caught my interest.-RPGamer-

I LOVE the new idea. a collectathon would not resonate with modern games.

also, as a former avid lego builder, i love how you can simply put a propeller on top of comething and its a helicopter, or put wings on it and it flies. incredible

now regarding your post, i think that the new philosophy magnifies the platforming. in tooie, there were WAY too may moves. now, they give you a limited number of bear and bird moves, but give you hundreds of parts, which you create new moves out of. genius

I'm all for changing things up abit...but not at the cost of taking out most of the platforming sections to focus on vehicles.

I'm on the fence.

Shinobishyguy

did you not read what i just posted?

I said the vehicles are there to AUGMENT the platforming. The vehicles you can create will be used as solutions to cla ssic platforming problems that would normally be solved by different powers or other ways, but now are solved by vehicles.

Yeah I agree. It only adds to the game. Rare could have took the easy way out and made a standard platformer and be done but no they wanted to do something innovative.

I LOVE the new idea. a collectathon would not resonate with modern games.

also, as a former avid lego builder, i love how you can simply put a propeller on top of comething and its a helicopter, or put wings on it and it flies. incredible

now regarding your post, i think that the new philosophy magnifies the platforming. in tooie, there were WAY too may moves. now, they give you a limited number of bear and bird moves, but give you hundreds of parts, which you create new moves out of. genius

Awinagainov

thank you... someone who read my post and actually thought about it.

I think that Rare is going to be asking themselves "Why do we even try to make something awesome when all that happens when we do it is people complain because they don't understand its point..."

It's funny because if Rare would've sticked to the original Banjo formula, people would've complained about it's just 'more of the same' or a rehash. But now that Rare is actually innovating, people still find a way in which to complain.

Vehicular platforming may be a bit too radical though.

It's funny because if Rare would've sticked to the original Banjo formula, people would've complained about it's just 'more of the same' or a rehash. But now that Rare is actually innovating, people still find a way in which to complain.

Vehicular platforming may be a bit too radical though.

Kritical_Strike

maybe but I can't help but applaud Rare for really trying to improve upon the old, tried and true platforming conventions. And I think that this is a perfect way to improve upon it.

Platformers are so lame. Who wants to go from point A to B in a linear ass level, collecting pointless crap.

I don't understand the whiners, crying because they didn't get a carbon copy of the same game they played 8 years ago.

Let's see:

You get a Banjo universe,

Familiar characters,

A game where you have to collect things (including parts), use them to figure out solutions to problems, and follow along a presumably engaging story with humour (assuming those elements are kept),

While making any kind of machine your imagination can come up with to overcome the problems and progress the story

And compete online with your inventions against other people's inventions

= pure awesomeness and something different

Great job, can't wait, day 1 buy

P.S. I don't care too much for living in the past. Nor do I want rinse and repeat.

Again great job.

It's funny because if Rare would've sticked to the original Banjo formula, people would've complained about it's just 'more of the same' or a rehash. But now that Rare is actually innovating, people still find a way in which to complain.

Vehicular platforming may be a bit too radical though.

Kritical_Strike

I just wanted a platformer. :cry:NAPK1NS

As did I. :cry:

[QUOTE="THE_Rob_Himself"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]I enjoyed watching the spring loaded boxing glove work as a weapon and then work as a way to jump. That kind of design ability caught my interest.horrowhip

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/33904.html

that trailer. It also had a tiny bit of cla ssic platforming.

and it reinforces my idea that the vehicles will be used to augment the platforming, not make the game into some massive racing game.

when is it used as a weapon? lol i still cant find itTHE_Rob_Himself

it isn't but it is obvious that it could be... I mean it is a spring loaded boxing glove... Mount it on the front of the vehicle and it could easily be used as a weapon.

[QUOTE="THE_Rob_Himself"]

when is it used as a weapon? lol i still cant find ithorrowhip

it isn't but it is obvious that it could be... I mean it is a spring loaded boxing glove... Mount it on the front of the vehicle and it could easily be used as a weapon.

I honestly thought this post sums up everything perfectly: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11155238&postcount=252yellowandmushy

Haha that's freaking awesome!

[QUOTE="yellowandmushy"]I honestly thought this post sums up everything perfectly: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11155238&postcount=252lantus

Haha that's freaking awesome!

and that about sums it up... people are too close minded to actually comprehend the applications of it in game.

[QUOTE="THE_Rob_Himself"]

when is it used as a weapon? lol i still cant find ithorrowhip

it isn't but it is obvious that it could be... I mean it is a spring loaded boxing glove... Mount it on the front of the vehicle and it could easily be used as a weapon.

[QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="THE_Rob_Himself"]

when is it used as a weapon? lol i still cant find itTHE_Rob_Himself

it isn't but it is obvious that it could be... I mean it is a spring loaded boxing glove... Mount it on the front of the vehicle and it could easily be used as a weapon.

when he gets the propeller/helicopter blade...

He jumps up into the air. If you look closely, you can see that the boxing glove is what launched him up.

[QUOTE="lantus"]

[QUOTE="yellowandmushy"]I honestly thought this post sums up everything perfectly: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11155238&postcount=252horrowhip

Haha that's freaking awesome!

and that about sums it up... people are too close minded to actually comprehend the applications of it in game.

That's exactly the case, when everything was first leaked, I was as skeptical as anyone else, but after the interviews, previews and footage, I'm definitely convinced this will be an amazing game.

[QUOTE="horrowhip"]

[QUOTE="lantus"]

[QUOTE="yellowandmushy"]I honestly thought this post sums up everything perfectly: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11155238&postcount=252lantus

Haha that's freaking awesome!

and that about sums it up... people are too close minded to actually comprehend the applications of it in game.

That's exactly the case, when everything was first leaked, I was as skeptical as anyone else, but after the interviews, previews and footage, I'm definitely convinced this will be an amazing game.

well... the screenshots without context didn't tell much. But after seeing the gameplay it was obvious that the vehicles were put in place to essentially replace the "powers" and give the user more freedom to enjoy the platforming.

[QUOTE="THE_Rob_Himself"][QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="THE_Rob_Himself"]

when is it used as a weapon? lol i still cant find ithorrowhip

it isn't but it is obvious that it could be... I mean it is a spring loaded boxing glove... Mount it on the front of the vehicle and it could easily be used as a weapon.

when he gets the propeller/helicopter blade...

He jumps up into the air. If you look closely, you can see that the boxing glove is what launched him up.

My take from that video - looks pretty terrible all around.Lazy_Boy88

That has been your opinion since we had NO media on the game.

And i agree with your post TC. No more, no less. I want to tear up some landscapes in a 4x4.

I honestly think this post sums up everything perfectly: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11155238&postcount=252yellowandmushy

*bookmarks*

Thank you for that. The post was perfect.:lol:

[QUOTE="Lazy_Boy88"]My take from that video - looks pretty terrible all around.ZeldaMaster32

That has been your opinion since we had NO media on the game.

And i agree with your post TC. No more, no less. I want to tear up some landscapes in a 4x4.

[QUOTE="ZeldaMaster32"]

[QUOTE="Lazy_Boy88"]My take from that video - looks pretty terrible all around.THE_Rob_Himself

That has been your opinion since we had NO media on the game.

And i agree with your post TC. No more, no less. I want to tear up some landscapes in a 4x4.

Hello thar! I grew up on BK , and so far, im really excited to see the possibilites with BK3, I mean it's literally endless ways to platform.

BK3 fo Life!

looks like another traditional banjo fan likes the new approach, looks amazing to me. my most anticipated game of 08THE_Rob_Himself

Same here. I've been anticipating it for 8 years now!

Im with you TC. Banjo is back baby, and im going to be there day one to welcome him to the XBOX family.

HOW YOU DOIN?

[QUOTE="THE_Rob_Himself"][QUOTE="ZeldaMaster32"]

[QUOTE="Lazy_Boy88"]My take from that video - looks pretty terrible all around.Vis-a-Vis

That has been your opinion since we had NO media on the game.

And i agree with your post TC. No more, no less. I want to tear up some landscapes in a 4x4.

Hello thar! I grew up on BK , and so far, im really excited to see the possibilites with BK3, I mean it's literally endless ways to platform.

BK3 fo Life!