My theory on why ps3 software sales are terrible!

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#1 Nin360
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I cotribute it to several factors:

1. People wanted a blu-ray player. At the time the ps3 release, blu ray players were exensive. (still are but less) That is what alot of ps3 owners use their system for, movies.

2. Lackluster software: Only a handful of ps3 games can be said as being "quality." No exclusive AAA's and bad ports. yuck.

3. Even the ps3's "premium" games aren't that great. Some of the biggest hits like: Heavinly sword and Uncharted are very short games. These are games that could be beat in a rental period and don't offer alot of replay value.

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#2 jonesy1911
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Uncharted offers no replay value? well you probably haven't even played the damn game, don't speak on what you don't know.
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#3 Foxhound_spy
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Uncharted offers no replay value? well you probably haven't even played the damn game, don't speak on what you don't know.jonesy1911

Look at his username NIN360 , maybe he & Reyes360, biggest lems ever are relative.......So what do you expect from him....

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#4 EPaul
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Didnt the NPD show that the Ps3 has a higher tie-in ratio than the Wii(excluding wii sports)
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#5 jonesy1911
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yes i noticed his username but surely everyone knows that Uncharted has alot of replay value.
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#6 MrPostman4Chi
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Uncharted offers no replay value? well you probably haven't even played the damn game, don't speak on what you don't know.jonesy1911
Well how many times are you gonna replay uncharted till you finally get tired of it lol?
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#7 jonesy1911
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No idea, but there is deffinitly incentive to play through collecting all treasures, mirror world, flip mode etc.
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#8 ms555
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I both agree and do not agree. The ps3 is actually a system with alot of potential. The bluray is a topic that comes second to its abilities with games. ps3 does not sell well because it not fulfill all of its promises and therefore as a terrible and unnecessary reputation.When you see articles in Time's magazine, for example, labeling ps3 as the biggest dissapointment of 2006, who is going to want to buy it? The 360 sells well because of its Blockbuster titles and it has been around longer, therefore has a more developed system and library. Wii sells like crazy because it makes a good profit on ebay and is also a must for die-hard nintendo fans. Therefore, ps3 is left to the side towards the end. The ps3 is still a great system, just not what was necessarily promised at E3. I myself did not feel like getting the system the other day because of its bad reputation. But, honestly, it is well put together, and its great games are coming very soon. Bluray......not too much of my concern. normal dvd still reigns, as well as free movie downloads all over the internet. Just wait, and the ps3 will pay for itself.You will see!
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#9 JohnGerstmann
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I tend to agree with you. So far, I've enjoyed Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm, Uncharted and Call of Duty 4. My friend has about 20 games on his Xbox but I am getting one too so I can play lost odyssey. It will be cool to own a 360 so I can trade games with my friends since most of them have the 360s and lots of games.
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#10 MrPostman4Chi
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No idea, but there is deffinitly incentive to play through collecting all treasures, mirror world, flip mode etc.jonesy1911
Yeah but what do you get after getting all that stuff?
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#11 beckhambender
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Look at his username NIN360 , maybe he & Reyes360, biggest lems ever are relative.......So what do you expect from him.... Foxhound_spy

Mommy and Daddy drew the line at 2 consoles. I mean, there's really no other choice but to bash the 3rd in order to feel better about missing out.

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#12 Eponique
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It's because they're casual

They buy Madden, Call of Duty 4 and Assassin's Creed in masses. But they leave Ratchet and Uncharted in the bargain bin.

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#13 EmperorSupreme
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PS3 has had a rush of good games lately and it's hard to afford them all. In my case I bought Lego StarWars and Eye of Judgement in October. So I skipped Ratchet and Clank, In November I bought COD4 and Rockband, so I haven't bought Unreal or Uncharted. Only so much money you know and too many games :)
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Yeah, I know Mario Galxy is hundreds of hours of fun. :lol:
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#15 TimeToPartyHard
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I'd have to say because 1.) its over priced and 2.) it has almost no critical acclaim. and 3.) that the madden, fps, racing, etc gamer that makes up much of Sony's customers got a 360 because it released first and don't have much of a reason to buy a PS3 now.
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It's because they're casual

They buy Madden, Call of Duty 4 and Assassin's Creed in masses. But they leave Ratchet and Uncharted in the bargain bin.

Eponique
But they buy Mass Effect and Bioshock, more niche games than a platformer and a action game?
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#17 Eponique
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[QUOTE="Eponique"]

It's because they're casual

They buy Madden, Call of Duty 4 and Assassin's Creed in masses. But they leave Ratchet and Uncharted in the bargain bin.

whocares4peace

But they buy Mass Effect and Bioshock, more niche games than a platformer and a action game?

I'm sorry, but what?

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#18 RIZDRAVER
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There's a major downside to the PS3 taking off in Europe and severly faltering in America:

1.) European PS3 games cost double of what Americans pay. For instance in the UK, games are £49.99 = $104.15 US!

2.) Europeans generally do not spend nearly as much as Americans on entertainment/leisure. Studies have shown that Americans spend roughly more than 1/3 of their annual income on household entertainment. Americans spend 3 times as much time shopping than Western Europeans. No other nation as a whole spends more on consumer entertainment products than America.

Thus if you want to win the war, you MUST win America. There's no way around it. Europeans will NEVER buy the same amount of games as Americans this gen simply due to the price. And the NPD sales clearly show that.
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#19 Bread_or_Decide
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8 isn't quality? Wow then what is?

Bad ports? Ports so bad they score just as well here at gamespot? Right.

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#20 whocares4peace
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[QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="Eponique"]

It's because they're casual

They buy Madden, Call of Duty 4 and Assassin's Creed in masses. But they leave Ratchet and Uncharted in the bargain bin.

Eponique

But they buy Mass Effect and Bioshock, more niche games than a platformer and a action game?

I'm sorry, but what?

You imply that PS3 sales are low because casuals buy Madden,CoD4 and Assasins Creed , but not uncharted and Rachet.

Yet the same "casual" crowd buys games like Mass Effect and Bioshock for the 360.

The casual "crowd excuse" for the ps3's low games sales doesnt really hold up.

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#21 Eponique
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[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="Eponique"]

It's because they're casual

They buy Madden, Call of Duty 4 and Assassin's Creed in masses. But they leave Ratchet and Uncharted in the bargain bin.

whocares4peace

But they buy Mass Effect and Bioshock, more niche games than a platformer and a action game?

I'm sorry, but what?

You imply that PS3 sales are low because casuals buy Madden,CoD4 and Assasins Creed , but not uncharted and Rachet.

Yet the same "casual" crowd buys games like Mass Effect and Bioshock for the 360.

The casual "crowd excuse" for the ps3's low games sales doesnt really hold up.

How are you sure that the casuals are the ones buying Mass Effect?

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#22 whocares4peace
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[QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="Eponique"]

It's because they're casual

They buy Madden, Call of Duty 4 and Assassin's Creed in masses. But they leave Ratchet and Uncharted in the bargain bin.

Eponique

But they buy Mass Effect and Bioshock, more niche games than a platformer and a action game?

I'm sorry, but what?

You imply that PS3 sales are low because casuals buy Madden,CoD4 and Assasins Creed , but not uncharted and Rachet.

Yet the same "casual" crowd buys games like Mass Effect and Bioshock for the 360.

The casual "crowd excuse" for the ps3's low games sales doesnt really hold up.

How are you sure that the casuals are the ones buying Mass Effect?

The same way you're sure the casuals are buying CoD4 and Assasins Creed
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My theory is that the industry is dominated by casuals whose #1 concern is the games they already know. When have casuals ever cared about new, unknown titles? Especially titles that aren't hyped to the hills? Casuals want shooters, twitch games that require no thinking, and games that have a 2 or higher in the title.

The PS3 right now is getting some really good games, but there are none of the new titles are super hyped (outside game forums) and none of the big hits or franchises are out. Their two million sellers are games that took time to really sink in and sell over time.

Look at some of the best sellers on the 360...sequals that people KNOW about and look forward to (The Halo's, Splinter Cells, PGR, etc), you have the new titles that really break through into the mainstream due to super hype (Bioshock and Mass Effect) and you have a bunch of casual titles like shooters and arcade racers to fill in the gaps.

On the other hand, the PS3 has none of its big franchises out yet (and many are still pushed back), its big new ideas never had the break through hype for some reason despite advertising (Heavenly Sword and Uncharted). While the PS3 does have some shooters and other casual titles, they are all multiplat which, unlike with the 360 where they work to fill gaps, won't appeal to any casual waiting for a REsident Evil or Metal Gear type title. Actually, the only real franchise out has been Ratchet and Clank which for whatever reason didn't do that great. Perhaps casuals aren't buying the PS3 (up until the $399) and instead only Sony faithful, tech-nerds and people who buy every console have the PS3 so far.

Who knows what the reason is?

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You imply that PS3 sales are low because casuals buy Madden,CoD4 and Assasins Creed , but not uncharted and Rachet.

Yet the same "casual" crowd buys games like Mass Effect and Bioshock for the 360.

The casual "crowd excuse" for the ps3's low games sales doesnt really hold up.

whocares4peace

How are you sure that the casuals are the ones buying Mass Effect?

The same way you're sure the casuals are buying CoD4 and Assasins Creed

I'm sure CoD4 and AC are being bought by casuals because it was advertised to death, had a massive (mainstream) hype behind them. As did Bioshock so I don't know where you're going with that one.

Oh and Mass Effect is selling about same as Uncharted considering the userbase:

473,000 / 7,862,000 = 6.01%
117,000 / 2,447,000 = 4.78%

So yeah, they're both about ~5%.

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#25 SeekeRuk
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I cotribute it to several factors:

1. People wanted a blu-ray player. At the time the ps3 release, blu ray players were exensive. (still are but less) That is what alot of ps3 owners use their system for, movies.

Nin360

i think we will find this very true as everyone i know got one for this reason and only use it for this reason.

and most of the av forums i go to people did the same itwas the best and cheapest blu-ray player out at the time.

it still is the best blu-ray player imo!

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#26 lhughey
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[QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

You imply that PS3 sales are low because casuals buy Madden,CoD4 and Assasins Creed , but not uncharted and Rachet.

Yet the same "casual" crowd buys games like Mass Effect and Bioshock for the 360.

The casual "crowd excuse" for the ps3's low games sales doesnt really hold up.

Eponique

How are you sure that the casuals are the ones buying Mass Effect?

The same way you're sure the casuals are buying CoD4 and Assasins Creed

I'm sure CoD4 and AC are being bought by casuals because it was advertised to death, had a massive (mainstream) hype behind them. As did Bioshock so I don't know where you're going with that one.

Oh and Mass Effect is selling about same as Uncharted considering the userbase:

473,000 / 7,862,000 = 6.01%
117,000 / 2,447,000 = 4.78%

So yeah, they're both about ~5%.

Your numbers are off because Mass Effect has broken the 1,000,000 barrier (or is very close to doing that). So you would need to double your numbers for ME.