N64 would've been a big pile of fail without Rare.

Yeah and now that they are gone poeple see it as nintendo giving up on the hardcore gamers. Imo their support is just as good as it was back in the day except they just dont have a rare to perfectly fill the holes that they leave.

I agree with the first sentence not the second alot of n64 games are still fun to play i never played banjo kazooie before last month and i love it

My god, that one company actually saved Nintendo's ass. Although, the N64 is an average system and is only praised today because of nostalgia factor. Almost all of its games have aged very poorly whilst games from the 16-bit era are fun to play.Meltedweasel

[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"]My god, that one company actually saved Nintendo's ass. Although, the N64 is an average system and is only praised today because of nostalgia factor. Almost all of its games have aged very poorly whilst games from the 16-bit era are fun to play.Blazerdt47

Without Rare Nintendo wouldn't have been able to sustain the system. They were always delaying their games for example. If it wasn't for Goldeneye (which outsold OOT) and Diddy Kong Racing, the N64 would've been dead before Ocarina of Time hit shelves.

N64 was fine without rare, hell the 360 would be fine without rare.

N64 was fine without rare, hell the 360 would be fine without rare.

emorainbo

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"][QUOTE="Meltedweasel"]My god, that one company actually saved Nintendo's ass. Although, the N64 is an average system and is only praised today because of nostalgia factor. Almost all of its games have aged very poorly whilst games from the 16-bit era are fun to play.AHUGECAT

Without Rare Nintendo wouldn't have been able to sustain the system. They were always delaying their games for example. If it wasn't for Goldeneye (which outsold OOT) and Diddy Kong Racing, the N64 would've been dead before Ocarina of Time hit shelves.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"] Are you kidding me? Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Banjo Kazooie, and especially Conker did not save the system. You have no knowledge of what made the system great.Blazerdt47

Without Rare Nintendo wouldn't have been able to sustain the system. They were always delaying their games for example. If it wasn't for Goldeneye (which outsold OOT) and Diddy Kong Racing, the N64 would've been dead before Ocarina of Time hit shelves.

Rare's games > all PS1 games

So yah I mostly agree with this thread.

Youre totally right the BEST games were straight from Rare. God they were truly amazing back in the day. N64 was truly their peak period.

[QUOTE="emorainbo"]

N64 was fine without rare, hell the 360 would be fine without rare.

Meltedweasel

:lol: seriously??

[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"][QUOTE="emorainbo"]

N64 was fine without rare, hell the 360 would be fine without rare.

Espada12

:lol: seriously??

My god, that one company actually saved Nintendo's ass. Although, the N64 is an average system and is only praised today because of nostalgia factor. Almost all of its games have aged very poorly whilst games from the 16-bit era are fun to play.Meltedweasel

Exhibit A of someone who does not know what they're talking about.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"] YOu've got to be kidding me dude. I will go out and say that Rare made more better games for Nintendo then Nintendo did.Meltedweasel

:lol: seriously??

Zelda:OOT, Mario 64, paper mario, Zelda: Majora's mask, Mario Tennis, Mario Kart, Mario party, super smash bros, starfox 64, mario golf, wave race 64, pokemon snap, pokemon stadium 1+2, F-zero X, etc vs

Perfect dark, Golden eye, DK64, Conker, Banjo 1, banjo 2, jet force jemini and Diddy kong racing.

So I ask again.. seriously??

[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

:lol: seriously??

Espada12

Zelda:OOT, Mario 64, paper mario, Zelda: Majora's mask, Mario Tennis, Mario Kart, Mario party, super smash bros, starfox 64, mario golf, wave race 64, pokemon snap, pokemon stadium 1+2, F-zero X, etc vs

Perfect dark, Golden eye, DK64, Conker, Banjo 1, banjo 2, jet force jemini and Diddy kong racing.

So I ask again.. seriously??

[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"]My god, that one company actually saved Nintendo's ass. Although, the N64 is an average system and is only praised today because of nostalgia factor. Almost all of its games have aged very poorly whilst games from the 16-bit era are fun to play.WTA2k5

Exhibit A of someone who does not know what they're talking about.

Well at that time Rare was owned by Nintendo, so Nintendo had a lot of input in those games, for proof, just check Rare games without Nintendo. Maybe it is the other way around, without Nintendo, Rare would never got all the recognition it has,

LOL Starfox 64 was from Rare too.Meltedweasel

Seriously?

Well at that time Rare was owned by Nintendo, so Nintendo had a lot of input in those games, for proof, just check Rare games without Nintendo. Maybe it is the other way around, without Nintendo, Rare would never got all the recognition it has,

Bukowski81

I agree, rare really has fallen from their pedestal since leaving nintendo.

If you had said Rare + Nintendo I would have agreed with you. But without Rare the system would still have great games like Majora's Mask, Ocarina of Time, Super Mario 64, Paper Mario, Mario Kart 64, Star Fox, F-Zero, Pilotwings, 1080, Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, the three Mario Party games and others.

[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"]LOL Starfox 64 was from Rare too.Espada12

Seriously?

[QUOTE="WTA2k5"]

[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"]My god, that one company actually saved Nintendo's ass. Although, the N64 is an average system and is only praised today because of nostalgia factor. Almost all of its games have aged very poorly whilst games from the 16-bit era are fun to play.Meltedweasel

Exhibit A of someone who does not know what they're talking about.

While it would be stupid to downplay Rare's importance in developing games for the N64, Nintendo themselves put out the best games for that system. Super Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Star Fox 64, Super Smash Bros., Mario Kart. There were plenty of non-Rare third-party games as well: Tony Hawk, Paper Mario, Excitebike, Resident Evil 2, NFL Blitz, and Rayman 2 just to give some examples.

Not as good without Rare? Sure. Still pretty damn awesome? Yep.

[QUOTE="Bukowski81"]

Well at that time Rare was owned by Nintendo, so Nintendo had a lot of input in those games, for proof, just check Rare games without Nintendo. Maybe it is the other way around, without Nintendo, Rare would never got all the recognition it has,

Espada12

I agree, rare really has fallen from their pedestal since leaving nintendo.

[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"][QUOTE="WTA2k5"]

Exhibit A of someone who does not know what they're talking about.

WTA2k5

While it would be stupid to downplay Rare's importance in developing games for the N64, Nintendo themselves put out the best games for that system. Super Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Star Fox 64, Super Smash Bros., Mario Kart. There were plenty of non-Rare third-party games as well: Tony Hawk, Paper Mario, Excitebike, Resident Evil 2, NFL Blitz, and Rayman 2 just to give some examples.

Not as good without Rare? Sure. Still pretty damn awesome? Yep.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"] Is that the best reply? Instead of giving me a list of games you just waste it on "seriously???"?Meltedweasel

Zelda:OOT, Mario 64, paper mario, Zelda: Majora's mask, Mario Tennis, Mario Kart, Mario party, super smash bros, starfox 64, mario golf, wave race 64, pokemon snap, pokemon stadium 1+2, F-zero X, etc vs

Perfect dark, Golden eye, DK64, Conker, Banjo 1, banjo 2, jet force jemini and Diddy kong racing.

So I ask again.. seriously??

[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"][QUOTE="WTA2k5"]

Exhibit A of someone who does not know what they're talking about.

WTA2k5

While it would be stupid to downplay Rare's importance in developing games for the N64, Nintendo themselves put out the best games for that system. Super Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Star Fox 64, Super Smash Bros., Mario Kart. There were plenty of non-Rare third-party games as well: Tony Hawk, Paper Mario, Excitebike, Resident Evil 2, NFL Blitz, and Rayman 2 just to give some examples.

Not as good without Rare? Sure. Still pretty damn awesome? Yep.

[QUOTE="WTA2k5"]

[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"] Prove me wrong then. This is the only crap I'm reading from butthurt Nintendo fanboys.Meltedweasel

While it would be stupid to downplay Rare's importance in developing games for the N64, Nintendo themselves put out the best games for that system. Super Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Star Fox 64, Super Smash Bros., Mario Kart. There were plenty of non-Rare third-party games as well: Tony Hawk, Paper Mario, Excitebike, Resident Evil 2, NFL Blitz, and Rayman 2 just to give some examples.

Not as good without Rare? Sure. Still pretty damn awesome? Yep.

Who are you to judge that? I like games from the 16-bit era, and N64 games even today. In fact I replayed Majora's Mask not too long ago and still had fun with it.

[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"][QUOTE="WTA2k5"]

While it would be stupid to downplay Rare's importance in developing games for the N64, Nintendo themselves put out the best games for that system. Super Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Star Fox 64, Super Smash Bros., Mario Kart. There were plenty of non-Rare third-party games as well: Tony Hawk, Paper Mario, Excitebike, Resident Evil 2, NFL Blitz, and Rayman 2 just to give some examples.

Not as good without Rare? Sure. Still pretty damn awesome? Yep.

WTA2k5

Who are you to judge that? I like games from the 16-bit era, and N64 games even today. In fact I replayed Majora's Mask not too long ago and still had fun with it.

[QUOTE="WTA2k5"]

[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"] The games have aged poorly unlike the games from 16-bit era like I mentioned in my original post. Only reason why you think they're awesome is because it reminds you of the good ol days.Meltedweasel

Who are you to judge that? I like games from the 16-bit era, and N64 games even today. In fact I replayed Majora's Mask not too long ago and still had fun with it.

Really? How do you know that? Where did you get "people in general" from?

[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"][QUOTE="WTA2k5"]

Who are you to judge that? I like games from the 16-bit era, and N64 games even today. In fact I replayed Majora's Mask not too long ago and still had fun with it.

WTA2k5

Really? How do you know that? Where did you get "people in general" from?

[QUOTE="WTA2k5"]

[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"] People in general would not wnat to go back to Goldeneye unless if the graphics and sound were upgraded. Only a few games like Mario 64 and Banjo Kazooie are still fun to play. Meltedweasel

Really? How do you know that? Where did you get "people in general" from?

Even if that were true, that's only one game on one message board, not enough to pass judgment that all N64 games haven't aged well.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Bukowski81"]

Well at that time Rare was owned by Nintendo, so Nintendo had a lot of input in those games, for proof, just check Rare games without Nintendo. Maybe it is the other way around, without Nintendo, Rare would never got all the recognition it has,

Meltedweasel

I agree, rare really has fallen from their pedestal since leaving nintendo.

I was talking about the N64 era, all Rare games on the N64 era were made for Nintendo, Rare was part of Nintendo. Jut like today is part of Microsoft so Microsoft has an input in all the games they release, Nintendo had an input an all the games they released on the N64 era.

N64 wouldn't have been as good. But this was back when Rare was actually good. Now their medicore. bobaban

[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

I agree, rare really has fallen from their pedestal since leaving nintendo.

Bukowski81

I was talking about the N64 era, all Rare games on the N64 era were made for Nintendo, Rare was part of Nintendo. Jut like today is part of Microsoft so Microsoft has an input in all the games they release, Nintendo had an input an all the games they released on the N64 era.

Wow alot of these people posting are really funny. Look at the new franchises Rare created and all of the games people have named are all triple AAA or AA franchises.

I would take Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie, Diddy Kong Racing, Jet Force Gemini, DONKEY KONG 64 (that no one named), Killer Instinct, Blast Corps, and Mickey' Speedway USA ANYWAY over....

Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Super Mario 64, Smash Bros and the rest of the crappy Mario Sport and Party games.

Rare didn't necessarily make the N64 because Nintendo had alot of popularity from the SNES but they definitly saved them.

Whoever disagrees is just hating on them because they aren't with Nintendo anymore.

Kinda agree cuz N64 with out Golden eye,PD,Get Force Gemini,Banjo and Conker would be just another nothing special console but since it had RARE=best console ever.Syferonik

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"][QUOTE="Meltedweasel"]

Without Rare Nintendo wouldn't have been able to sustain the system. They were always delaying their games for example. If it wasn't for Goldeneye (which outsold OOT) and Diddy Kong Racing, the N64 would've been dead before Ocarina of Time hit shelves.

AHUGECAT

Rare was to N64 as Square was to PS1. Unfortunately for the N64, every other Japanese developer supported the PS1 so it stands with the better library.

Rare's games > all PS1 games

So yah I mostly agree with this thread.

treedoor

Xenogears > all Rare games.