Name some reasons why Naughty Dog Games are not shallow gameplay experiences

I would really like to hear from people here who proclaim to be such big Unhcarted fans, of the complex and intruiging elements of gameplay it offers.

Lets see if anyone can answer this without avoiding the subject.

Speak now or forever hold your peace.

The games are great fun to play :?

Uncharted is fun.

Done.

This thread is now about chicken vs beef. JC_Spot

That's a lame topic :P

More simple than shallow. Unless shallow = simple. In which case shallow doesn't mean much. I always thought shallow would bemash square every time an enemy appears!Uncharted is a LOT of fun, it doesn't need to have loads of complexities. What makes Gears less shallow? Also, I will list a reason. I loved Uncharted 2's online because the platforming added another dimension to the maps and made getting the drop on the other team fun, exciting, and possible. My favorite multiplayer game this gen. Too bad Uncharted 3's is utter trash!

[QUOTE="JC_Spot"]This thread is now about chicken vs beef. dream431ca

That's a lame topic :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SncBymV7sIs

platforming on a moving object, coupled with aiming while the train turns, coupled with avoiding obstacle, coupled with the choice of going inside, on top, or at the side of the train, coupled with which weapon to carry, coupled with the choice of melee, ranged, or grenade

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugSbR2HcB4w&feature=relmfu

big playground arena. you can sneak your way all throughout and not get reinforcements coming, or go guns-blazing and having to deal with a second wave of enemies with snipers at the top.

CHICKEN VS BEEF IS GOOD. THANKS JC DO NOT RESPOND TO OP FRIED CHICKEN FTWBlabadon

Mary Browns or KFC??

[QUOTE="Blabadon"]CHICKEN VS BEEF IS GOOD. THANKS JC DO NOT RESPOND TO OP FRIED CHICKEN FTWdream431ca

Mary Browns or KFC??

The games are great fun to play :?

dream431ca

CHICKEN VS BEEF IS GOOD. THANKS JC DO NOT RESPOND TO OP FRIED CHICKEN FTWBlabadon

Blasphemy! Beef has this on lockdown!

actually naughty dog is a bit samey if you think about it. all their playable characters are white - semi white males with emotional/pschological problems. wouldnt be suprised if the guy in last of us isnt a heavy drinker or something.

more importantly all of em cant go mroe than 30 mintues of gameplay without something blowing up

I hated UC1, but I just beat UC2 and really enjoyed it. Try playing it on Hard and use stealth.

actually naughty dog is a bit samey if you think about it. all their playable characters are white - semi white males with emotional/pschological problems. wouldnt be suprised if the guy in last of us isnt a heavy drinker or something.

more importantly all of em cant go mroe than 30 mintues of gameplay without something blowing up

ionusX

Yes and crash bandicoot had a weird mask fetish while Jak's best friend is an squirrel or something like that.

Why would I want to waste time trying to convince someone who already made up their mind?

actually naughty dog is a bit samey if you think about it. all their playable characters are white - semi white males with emotional/pschological problems. wouldnt be suprised if the guy in last of us isnt a heavy drinker or something.

more importantly all of em cant go mroe than 30 mintues of gameplay without something blowing up

ionusX

I just hate how Drake stumbles everywhere and continues to fall off of something the entire game. He's the clumsiest character ever created.

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actually naughty dog is a bit samey if you think about it. all their playable characters are white - semi white males with emotional/pschological problems. wouldnt be suprised if the guy in last of us isnt a heavy drinker or something.

more importantly all of em cant go mroe than 30 mintues of gameplay without something blowing up

GD1551

Yes and crash bandicoot had a weird mask fetish while Jak's best friend is an squirrel or something like that.

jax's primary problems were that he had split personality problems. he had his three forms (normal, light eco, dark eco) each fighting to be free of the others in their own way. if you had played jax 4 you would see how this actually all fits togeather. naughty dog may not have made that one but it is a jax franchised game and it does explain this quite clearly.

drakes is obvious he has daddy issues combined with being a bit of a habitual sh!t disturber

the last of us dude clearly has either divorce or dead wife stress to deal with. he also doesnt give two cents about himself which meaning he either has a destructive problem or he has 0 self respect

daxter.. daxter is self centered.

I smell jelly.:PNYrockinlegend

Gross.. we don't need to know about your K-Y Jelly or your boyfriends (keep that to yourself).

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[QUOTE="Blabadon"]CHICKEN VS BEEF IS GOOD. THANKS JC DO NOT RESPOND TO OP FRIED CHICKEN FTWsenses_fail_06

Mary Browns or KFC??

I buy my meth from that place!

I mean, uh, my "chicken". Its the best damn chicken ever, tweak for days!

why only list uncharted? They made crash/jak as well .. 100% gameplay.campzor

Probably because its the most talked about and critically acclaimed PS exclusive, and has the highest MC score of any PS3 title (eclipsing any 360 exclusive, right on the area of PC games and just behind some amazing multiplats and Nintendo games).

If I had to, I'd say its the amazing polish, great characterization, open ended combat (allowing you to utilize your platforming skills and environment), pacing (switching between platforming, exlporation, puzzles and shooting throughout), well done puzzles (too easy in Uncharted 2, but just right in Uncharted 3 and very challenging), and top notch gunplay (which haters tend to over hate for U3 because of lessened accuracy, ignoring the patch and Uncharted 2's fantastic gunplay).

Its an all around amazing title, even super games critic Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw has to grudgingly admit its a fantastic game, even if he doesn't particularly like Drake (likening him to a genocidal white supremacist). Considering he'll completely poop on other amazing games like Super Smash Brothers, Halo, Call of Duty (post 4, which he liked) and Gears of War, praise from him is rare.

because wasting time explaining a failure troll xbox fanboy it's the smart thing to do.

why only list uncharted? They made crash/jak as well .. 100% gameplay.campzor

It's shallow obv, but very smooth and fun! It's even better if you refuse to stay at the same spot for more than a couple of seconds and just keep moving (UC3 did a good job of forcing even the lazy players to move a bit :) ). Most areas are small playground. Also traversal, melee, shootouts and stealth blends well (all four are pretty shallow) which makes it a varied experience. Also awesome set pieces at a steadily rate. So in summary: Yes they are very shallow, but also super fun :D! Sushiglutton

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]It's shallow obv, but very smooth and fun! It's even better if you refuse to stay at the same spot for more than a couple of seconds and just keep moving (UC3 did a good job of forcing even the lazy players to move a bit :) ). Most areas are small playground. Also traversal, melee, shootouts and stealth blends well (all four are pretty shallow) which makes it a varied experience. Also awesome set pieces at a steadily rate. So in summary: Yes they are very shallow, but also super fun :D! ionusX

Another person that's jealous he doesn't get to play Uncharted on his Xbox.
If Uncharted was a Xbox exclusive i'm sure you would make tons of threads about how great the game is.

Anyway you can say whatever you like it's not going to change my view on the game or anyone else's. Uncharted is one of the best games this generation.

Go play another edition of Halo, a boring shooter with childish aliens. :d While we are getting ready to play some new aaae IP's.

Another person that's jealous he doesn't get to play Uncharted on his Xbox.
If Uncharted was a Xbox exclusive i'm sure you would make tons of threads about how great the game is.

Anyway you can say whatever you like it's not going to change my view on the game or anyone else's. Uncharted is one of the best games this generation.

Go play another edition of Halo, a boring shooter with childish aliens. :d While we are getting ready to play some new aaae IP's.

Davekeeh

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]It's shallow obv, but very smooth and fun! It's even better if you refuse to stay at the same spot for more than a couple of seconds and just keep moving (UC3 did a good job of forcing even the lazy players to move a bit :) ). Most areas are small playground. Also traversal, melee, shootouts and stealth blends well (all four are pretty shallow) which makes it a varied experience. Also awesome set pieces at a steadily rate. So in summary: Yes they are very shallow, but also super fun :D! ionusX

You've never played Uncharted lol

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Another person that's jealous he doesn't get to play Uncharted on his Xbox.
If Uncharted was a Xbox exclusive i'm sure you would make tons of threads about how great the game is.

Anyway you can say whatever you like it's not going to change my view on the game or anyone else's. Uncharted is one of the best games this generation.

Go play another edition of Halo, a boring shooter with childish aliens. :d While we are getting ready to play some new aaae IP's.

ionusX

I'm not interested starting a personal conversation with you lol

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]It's shallow obv, but very smooth and fun! It's even better if you refuse to stay at the same spot for more than a couple of seconds and just keep moving (UC3 did a good job of forcing even the lazy players to move a bit :) ). Most areas are small playground. Also traversal, melee, shootouts and stealth blends well (all four are pretty shallow) which makes it a varied experience. Also awesome set pieces at a steadily rate. So in summary: Yes they are very shallow, but also super fun :D! Davekeeh

You've never played Uncharted lol

i can believe whatever i like about a game having played it or not

finally you clearly dont wish to tell me your name therefore you arent worth ever lsitening to /block

Uncharted is fun.

Done.

MonsieurX

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SncBymV7sIs

platforming on a moving object, coupled with aiming while the train turns, coupled with avoiding obstacle, coupled with the choice of going inside, on top, or at the side of the train, coupled with which weapon to carry, coupled with the choice of melee, ranged, or grenade

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugSbR2HcB4w&feature=relmfu

big playground arena. you can sneak your way all throughout and not get reinforcements coming, or go guns-blazing and having to deal with a second wave of enemies with snipers at the top.

rumbalumba

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="ionusX"] UC as a series is actually pretty bland when you think about it. its most just nice scenery and mediocre gunplay

ionusX

You've never played Uncharted lol

i can believe whatever i like about a game having played it or not

I just knew that you were going to tell me that it didn't matter what my name was. I could see that Rock impersonation miles away. You need to grow up, fast.

[QUOTE="rumbalumba"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SncBymV7sIs

platforming on a moving object, coupled with aiming while the train turns, coupled with avoiding obstacle, coupled with the choice of going inside, on top, or at the side of the train, coupled with which weapon to carry, coupled with the choice of melee, ranged, or grenade

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugSbR2HcB4w&feature=relmfu

big playground arena. you can sneak your way all throughout and not get reinforcements coming, or go guns-blazing and having to deal with a second wave of enemies with snipers at the top.

princeofshapeir

Same goes for Gears of War, but unlike Gears Uncharted is immersive. There was never a dull moment in Uncharted ever, not even the desert because it made you feel truly alone and hopeless which was the point.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="rumbalumba"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SncBymV7sIs

platforming on a moving object, coupled with aiming while the train turns, coupled with avoiding obstacle, coupled with the choice of going inside, on top, or at the side of the train, coupled with which weapon to carry, coupled with the choice of melee, ranged, or grenade

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugSbR2HcB4w&feature=relmfu

big playground arena. you can sneak your way all throughout and not get reinforcements coming, or go guns-blazing and having to deal with a second wave of enemies with snipers at the top.

Davekeeh

Same goes for Gears of War, but unlike Gears Uncharted is immersive. There was never a dull moment in Uncharted ever, not even the desert because it made you feel truly alone and hopeless which was the point.

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

You've never played Uncharted lol

Davekeeh

i can believe whatever i like about a game having played it or not

I just knew that you were going to tell me that it didn't matter what my name was. I could see that Rock impersonation miles away. You need to grow up, fast.

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] The core gameplay itself isn't deep at all. It has extremely mediocre gunplay that hardly feels impactful or rewarding of skill, and the game attempts to compensate for that by throwing you into crazy situations or interspersing shooting segments with platforming segments. Typically Uncharted games go by the formula of climb a few walls, then engage in a shootout, look in your book to figure out which statues to turn, jump around some more, shoot some more, and then a cutscene. It's a lot like Wal-Mart: it's not the best place to go for if you're looking for something specific, but it does readily offer a bit of everything, though when those things are analyzed closely they're subpar at best.princeofshapeir

Same goes for Gears of War, but unlike Gears Uncharted is immersive. There was never a dull moment in Uncharted ever, not even the desert because it made you feel truly alone and hopeless which was the point.

Tell me the difference between Gears of War's shooting aspect and Uncharted's please because they are on par.

And mediocre? Oh man give me a break. Did you see the cruise ship level? What about that is mediocre? You tell me.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Same goes for Gears of War, but unlike Gears Uncharted is immersive. There was never a dull moment in Uncharted ever, not even the desert because it made you feel truly alone and hopeless which was the point.

Davekeeh

Tell me the difference between Gears of War's shooting aspect and Uncharted's please because they are on par.

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] I haven't played a Gears game but it's unfair to compare an action-adventure game to a cover shooter. Gears' shooting is the focus of the game, whereas Uncharted tries to smash together set pieces, shooting, platforming, and cinematic sequences to compensate for the mediocrity of each individual gameplay aspect.ionusX

Tell me the difference between Gears of War's shooting aspect and Uncharted's please because they are on par.

This is my first account, my name on PSN is Davekeeh as well, so there.

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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Tell me the difference between Gears of War's shooting aspect and Uncharted's please because they are on par.

Davekeeh

This is my first account, my PSN is Davekeeh as well, so there.

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="ionusX"]doging the question eh ill figure it out eventually

ionusX

This is my first account, my PSN is Davekeeh as well, so there.