Natal Released in October

http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/microsoft-confirms-natal-launch-in-october-video/

As title says, we can expect Natal to arrive in october. As far as Sony Move there isnt a clear release date only fall right? I wonder if Sony will release expected arrival soon in response. Or they may just wait till E3, but so far it seems a lot of companies are releasing a lot of information pre-E3. I wonder if MS has gotten rid of some of the earlier problems such as it not recognizing skin colors, etc.

What do you guys think of Natal/Move? Nintendo knock offs, gimicks, or innovative tech?

Innovative, ripoff etc... Useless words that add nothing to the debate about wether or not these motion controls will improve gaming.

As far as I'm concerned, the Wii controls themselves have done nothing to improve gaming. I found myself wishing I had a normal controller for SMG and I do believe MH TRI also recommends you use a classic controller :? I don't exect MOVE to be much different.

As far Natal.... Well, did the Eyetoy do anything to iprove games? Nope. Will a more advanced version? Nope.

I think natal's major Adavantage is that it Can be used like eye toy, but you can also use it with your controller as if it were a Wiimote or a Sixaxis. Or you could just use it for the voice recognition feature.ohthemanatee

can someone explain how a team sports game will work with this... i cant see how im supposed to play as 5 basketball players and defeat an nba team by myself...

all motion controllers are gimicks, Natal will sell well with a good marketing campaign but will suck and Move will sell ok with marketing campaign with other games and also suckKevinButlerVP

Fixed that for ya ;)

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]I think natal's major Adavantage is that it Can be used like eye toy, but you can also use it with your controller as if it were a Wiimote or a Sixaxis. Or you could just use it for the voice recognition feature.KevinButlerVP

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]I think natal's major Adavantage is that it Can be used like eye toy, but you can also use it with your controller as if it were a Wiimote or a Sixaxis. Or you could just use it for the voice recognition feature.KevinButlerVP

Got any proof of that, I did a google search the only thng that I found that is close to the Natal not tracking the Z-Axis is a commen by Sony after E3 saying that Natal has trouble tracking the Z-Axis (having trouble=/=can't sense. The only other things that relate to this is links to your posts.

once again they are rushing out the gate to beat sony like they did with the 360, Natal will be as dodgey as the first consoles they released, expect massive game breaking lag. casuals might have fun jumping around like idiots though.Totalgym9000

sony was the one who tried to rush out move, but decided to delay it as well

Ever wonder what the bottom of a avatar shoe looks like?

WELL BAM ! There it is XD

Comming this october

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]I think natal's major Adavantage is that it Can be used like eye toy, but you can also use it with your controller as if it were a Wiimote or a Sixaxis. Or you could just use it for the voice recognition feature.ohthemanatee

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]Natals main disadvantage is that it can't sense on the zed axis, kinda like wii before motion +Sollet

I hadn't read that, still it could be either the game, the camera or of just early beta for the camera

[QUOTE="Sollet"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"] It can't detect the Z axis? I never heard of that, you got a link?ohthemanatee

I hadn't read that, still it could be either the game, the camera or of just early beta for the camera

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]I think natal's major Adavantage is that it Can be used like eye toy, but you can also use it with your controller as if it were a Wiimote or a Sixaxis. Or you could just use it for the voice recognition feature.ohthemanatee

"it has issues around the Z axis" you could see how move in recent tech demos that they look at a map and can actually look down at it. with natal you won't be able to do things like that

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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] Natals main disadvantage is that it can't sense on the zed axis, kinda like wii before motion +KevinButlerVP

"it has issues around the Z axis" you could see how move in recent tech demos that they look at a map and can actually look down at it. with natal you won't be able to do things like that

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A 2009 article in which sony criticizes a Microsoft product that isn't even out? Yeah i'll take that with a grain of salt thank you

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]

It can't detect the Z axis? I never heard of that, you got a link?ohthemanatee

"it has issues around the Z axis" you could see how move in recent tech demos that they look at a map and can actually look down at it. with natal you won't be able to do things like that

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A 2009 article in which sony criticizes a Microsoft product that isn't even out? Yeah i'll take that with a grain of salt thank you

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"] It can't detect the Z axis? I never heard of that, you got a link?ohthemanatee

"it has issues around the Z axis" you could see how move in recent tech demos that they look at a map and can actually look down at it. with natal you won't be able to do things like that

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A 2009 article in which sony criticizes a Microsoft product that isn't even out? Yeah i'll take that with a grain of salt thank you

Didnt ya know, Sony are the most reliable source for up to date Microsoft project updates and news.

I'll make up my mind on Natal at E3.... if MS shows us some good games, then I'm in.... but if all I see are Party Game comilations, then no thank you.

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] " Microsoft will be prohibiting attendees at the Natal conference from taking photos or video at the event." will you take that with a grain of salt? how can ones product be good if they won't even allow media coverage let alone public hands on with it and it's coming out in October? they won't allow someone to see it 4 monthes away from release :lol:ohthemanatee

Its funny, his Z-axis thing fell through so he immediatly switched to an entirely other form of bashing it. :lol:

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] " Microsoft will be prohibiting attendees at the Natal conference from taking photos or video at the event." will you take that with a grain of salt? how can ones product be good if they won't even allow media coverage let alone public hands on with it and it's coming out in October? they won't allow someone to see it 4 monthes away from release :lol:ohthemanatee

Yay October and it's launch games include Natal Conker right ? :o

Also I can't wait to see some Natal infused Diddy Kong Racing 2 as well. :twisted:

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] " Microsoft will be prohibiting attendees at the Natal conference from taking photos or video at the event." will you take that with a grain of salt? how can ones product be good if they won't even allow media coverage let alone public hands on with it and it's coming out in October? they won't allow someone to see it 4 monthes away from release :lol:KevinButlerVP

You didnt consider they dont want any press photography at the Natal show because maybe they want to make a big announcement at E3 about Natal?

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] " Microsoft will be prohibiting attendees at the Natal conference from taking photos or video at the event." will you take that with a grain of salt? how can ones product be good if they won't even allow media coverage let alone public hands on with it and it's coming out in October? they won't allow someone to see it 4 monthes away from release :lol:KevinButlerVP

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] " Microsoft will be prohibiting attendees at the Natal conference from taking photos or video at the event." will you take that with a grain of salt? how can ones product be good if they won't even allow media coverage let alone public hands on with it and it's coming out in October? they won't allow someone to see it 4 monthes away from release :lol:Snugenz

Its funny, his Z-axis thing fell through so he immediatly switched to an entirely other form of bashing it. :lol:

:question: natal can't sense on the z-axis so what is ur point? heres a 2010 article for ya ;)

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2010/04/08/move-does-it-better-than-natal/

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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"] so now i'm supposed to take the word of an internet fanboy? my grain of salt just got biggerKevinButlerVP

Its funny, his Z-axis thing fell through so he immediatly switched to an entirely other form of bashing it. :lol:

:question: natal can't sense on the z-axis so what is ur point? heres a 2010 article for ya ;)

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2010/04/08/move-does-it-better-than-natal/

From another Sony spokesperson on another Sony site. LMAO :lol:

all motion controllers are gimicks, Natal will sell well with a good marketing campaign but will suck and Move will sell ok with marketing campaign with other gamesKevinButlerVP

ha ha h. you reckon all motion controllers are gimmicks but think move will sell ok but suck, and Move ok but reckon it will not suck because what?..it's not a gimmick?

your fanboy is showing.

Nintendo's Wiimote and motion controls must be one of the longest most succesfull gimmicks then that I have seen.

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

Its funny, his Z-axis thing fell through so he immediatly switched to an entirely other form of bashing it. :lol:

Snugenz

:question: natal can't sense on the z-axis so what is ur point? heres a 2010 article for ya ;)

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2010/04/08/move-does-it-better-than-natal/

From another Sony spokesperson on another Sony site. LMAO :lol:

It should be obvious to everyone here where he sits.

look at his picture? Kevin Butler?!?

He reckons motion controls suck and are gimmicks yet champions Sony's Move as it is the holy grail or something and dismissess the Wimote plus when Sony's concept is a complete rip off of it.

This is is not the first time he uses Sony fanboy websites either.

TC, can you send us that link from Playstation Universities critical response as to MS is so secret about Project Natal again?

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

Its funny, his Z-axis thing fell through so he immediatly switched to an entirely other form of bashing it. :lol:

:question: natal can't sense on the z-axis so what is ur point? heres a 2010 article for ya ;)

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2010/04/08/move-does-it-better-than-natal/

From another Sony spokesperson on another Sony site. LMAO :lol:

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]

:question: natal can't sense on the z-axis so what is ur point? heres a 2010 article for ya ;)

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2010/04/08/move-does-it-better-than-natal/

KevinButlerVP

From another Sony spokesperson on another Sony site. LMAO :lol:

The Sixth Axis ...

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

From another Sony spokesperson on another Sony site. LMAO :lol:

The Sixth Axis ...

Waits for another link from www.playstation.com or Sony Defence Force ...

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] ooh yeah, so an article proves you wrong and immediately you call them "sony owned" and I'm the fanboy right :lol:KevinButlerVP

The Sixth Axis ...

Waits for another link from www.playstation.com or Sony Defence Force ...

I'm sure they do. :D

Im not interested in Natal but im very interested in Rare games that will come for it. I just hope they are able to play with normal controls

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]

"it has issues around the Z axis" you could see how move in recent tech demos that they look at a map and can actually look down at it. with natal you won't be able to do things like that

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A 2009 article in which sony criticizes a Microsoft product that isn't even out? Yeah i'll take that with a grain of salt thank you

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

A 2009 article in which sony criticizes a Microsoft product that isn't even out? Yeah i'll take that with a grain of salt thank you

Anjunaddict

he ignored the acutal overal positive feedback of journalists who had hands on tries with Project Natal.

If TC is lucky Project Natal has gotten worse and Game journalist who try it behind at E3 will state this as well.

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] ooh yeah, so an article proves you wrong and immediately you call them "sony owned" and I'm the fanboy right :lol:KevinButlerVP

The Sixth Axis ...

Waits for another link from www.playstation.com or Sony Defence Force ...

And the SDF will be jumping like a kid because of the so called 1:1 motion controller...of LAG LIKE HELL...:cry: