Nevermind hardware....WHY ISNT SOFTWARE SELLING ON THE PS3?

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#1 jedigemini
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The PS3 has exactly 0 third party million selling games... and 0 games in the top 20 in the June NDP... yes count em again... 0.

This problem is ... perhaps even more serious than PS3's poor showing on the hardware front.

With the PS3's supposed hardcore fanbase (who supposedly buy the most games)... why is it that software is selling so much better on the Wii... which boasts 4 of the top10 titles on June NPD.

Don't bother offering the excuse that it's because of Nintendo's first party dominance as RE4 Wii edition just broke the top ten this month and the Wii already has 2 third party million sellers (Rayman/Red Steel).

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#2 jt8b2z
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to be honest there really arent that many great games on the ps3 at the moment. Its the sole reason i havent got one yet.Will all change come next year though me thinks.
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#3 jedigemini
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Where did all teh Cows go?
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#4 NobuoMusicMaker
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You tout Rayman and Redsteel? It's always quantity over quality with Nintendo isn't it.
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#5 darkmario123
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I would hate to be Konami or Square Enix right now.
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to be honest there really arent that many great games on the ps3 at the moment. Its the sole reason i havent got one yet.Will all change come next year though me thinks.jt8b2z
Oh so it's the lack of quality in PS3 software you speak of?

Funny when considering Cows are always touting having superior games to the Sheep ;)

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You tout Rayman and Redsteel? It's always quantity over quality with Nintendo isn't it.NobuoMusicMaker
At least theres something the evaluate as quality. PS3's got nothing.
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#8 Smakkjoo
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Uhg, the PS3 just doesn't have good games right now...

the HS Demo is out Thurs, so people will be all over that.. I suspect even worse DL Rates (I'm going to DL it asap early morning)

But, Lair looks more promising than it did last year.. HS looks incredible, and R&C, well who doesn't love those 2 lugnuts.

Anyways, as of now, it sucks. Later in the year? I think I'm going to go broke

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[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]You tout Rayman and Redsteel? It's always quantity over quality with Nintendo isn't it.nytrospawn
At least theres something the evaluate as quality. PS3's got nothing.

Resistance is already better than those 2 -_-

Of course, Rayman RR2 looks great. Can't wait to wash some undies

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#11 jedigemini
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Uhg, the PS3 just doesn't have good games right now...

the HS Demo is out Thurs, so people will be all over that.. I suspect even worse DL Rates (I'm going to DL it asap early morning)

But, Lair looks more promising than it did last year.. HS looks incredible, and R&C, well who doesn't love those 2 lugnuts.

Anyways, as of now, it sucks. Later in the year? I think I'm going to go broke

Smakkjoo
So is this an admission that the Wii's games are better?
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[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]You tout Rayman and Redsteel? It's always quantity over quality with Nintendo isn't it.nytrospawn
At least theres something the evaluate as quality. PS3's got nothing.

Oh, you mean like the 3 AAAs on PS3. Yeeaaah.

Be proud of your 5.5 Redsteel. Even the devs knew it was crap and apologized for it.

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#13 deathtrap90
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You tout Rayman and Redsteel? It's always quantity over quality with Nintendo isn't it.NobuoMusicMaker

Wii still has an exclusive AAA on their system,the PS3 doesnt

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#14 NorthlandMan
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resistance sold 2 million which is OK
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#15 Vandalvideo
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Its a combination of: A) Attachment rates are always constant and B) The PS3 has the smallest built in user base. Combine those two and you get? BAD SALES! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! Oh wait, sad.
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#16 Smakkjoo
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[QUOTE="Smakkjoo"]

Uhg, the PS3 just doesn't have good games right now...

the HS Demo is out Thurs, so people will be all over that.. I suspect even worse DL Rates (I'm going to DL it asap early morning)

But, Lair looks more promising than it did last year.. HS looks incredible, and R&C, well who doesn't love those 2 lugnuts.

Anyways, as of now, it sucks. Later in the year? I think I'm going to go broke

jedigemini

So is this an admission that the Wii's games are better?

Oh, no, they're both abysmal right now.

But, the PS3 will snatch in the good games in 1 or 2 months. Thats good!

The Wii gets MP3 next month right? I'll pick that up...

SSBB doesn't pop till Dec.3

and.. SMG? I dunno

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#17 wiistation360
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i'll make a game on the ps3 called WAITING,where ps3 owners will insert the disc and watch their ps3 fold while waiting for a good game,it'll be #1 on the chart for months ;)
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#18 DeadMan1290
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The PS3 is in process of getting possibly the best games in the business at the end of this year and beginning of 2008 so don't worry, you'll see when PS3 starts getting these games people will rush out to buy a PS3..

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#19 Smakkjoo
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i'll make a game on the ps3 called WAITING,where ps3 owners will insert the disc and watch their ps3 fold while waiting for a good game,it'll be #1 on the chart for months ;)wiistation360

Oh wait, people already do that

Like me...

Till HS!!!

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#20 flashattackfina
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resistance sold 2 million which is OKNorthlandMan
3 million exactly
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[QUOTE="wiistation360"]i'll make a game on the ps3 called WAITING,where ps3 owners will insert the disc and watch their ps3 fold while waiting for a good game,it'll be #1 on the chart for months ;)Smakkjoo

Oh wait, people already do that

Like me...

Till HS!!!

sony stole my idea (sad)

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#22 jedigemini
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[QUOTE="jedigemini"][QUOTE="Smakkjoo"]

Uhg, the PS3 just doesn't have good games right now...

the HS Demo is out Thurs, so people will be all over that.. I suspect even worse DL Rates (I'm going to DL it asap early morning)

But, Lair looks more promising than it did last year.. HS looks incredible, and R&C, well who doesn't love those 2 lugnuts.

Anyways, as of now, it sucks. Later in the year? I think I'm going to go broke

Smakkjoo

So is this an admission that the Wii's games are better?

Oh, no, they're both abysmal right now.

But, the PS3 will snatch in the good games in 1 or 2 months. Thats good!

The Wii gets MP3 next month right? I'll pick that up...

SSBB doesn't pop till Dec.3

and.. SMG? I dunno

So why are games selling so much better on the Wii?
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The PS3 has exactly 0 third party million selling games... and 0 games in the top 20 in the June NDP... yes count em again... 0.

This problem is ... perhaps even more serious than PS3's poor showing on the hardware front.

With the PS3's supposed hardcore fanbase (who supposedly buy the most games)... why is it that software is selling so much better on the Wii... which boasts 4 of the top10 titles on June NPD.

Don't bother offering the excuse that it's because of Nintendo's first party dominance as RE4 Wii edition just broke the top ten this month and the Wii already has 2 third party million sellers (Rayman/Red Steel).

jedigemini

Honestly, name me a good game At the moment on the PS3 other than Resistance and Motorstorm :p Theres hardly any, we are all waiting for the Exclusives

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#24 flashattackfina
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i'll make a game on the ps3 called WAITING,where ps3 owners will insert the disc and watch their ps3 fold while waiting for a good game,it'll be #1 on the chart for months ;)wiistation360
aren't lemming waiting for Halo 3, mass effect, bioshock, blue dragon etc etc etc
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[QUOTE="jt8b2z"]to be honest there really arent that many great games on the ps3 at the moment. Its the sole reason i havent got one yet.Will all change come next year though me thinks.jedigemini

Oh so it's the lack of quality in PS3 software you speak of?

Funny when considering Cows are always touting having superior games to the Sheep ;)

the only good game on the wii right now is resi 4, and i already have that on my gamecube. Zelda flopped.

even now the ps3 has a better library of games than the wii. The majority like variety games. Honestly if wii-fit outsells mass effector mgs4 *shakes fist

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[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]resistance sold 2 million which is OKflashattackfina
3 million exactly

More like 1.5 million.

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#27 deathtrap90
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[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]resistance sold 2 million which is OKflashattackfina
3 million exactly

1.46 million according to VGcharts

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=1893

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#28 Sushbag88
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Software isn't selling because there is no software to sell. People have already bought Resistance, so they have the only software worth buying. Now they are waiting.
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#29 jedigemini
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[QUOTE="jedigemini"]

The PS3 has exactly 0 third party million selling games... and 0 games in the top 20 in the June NDP... yes count em again... 0.

This problem is ... perhaps even more serious than PS3's poor showing on the hardware front.

With the PS3's supposed hardcore fanbase (who supposedly buy the most games)... why is it that software is selling so much better on the Wii... which boasts 4 of the top10 titles on June NPD.

Don't bother offering the excuse that it's because of Nintendo's first party dominance as RE4 Wii edition just broke the top ten this month and the Wii already has 2 third party million sellers (Rayman/Red Steel).

naughtydog360

Honestly, name me a good game At the moment on the PS3 other than Resistance and Motorstorm :p Theres hardly any, we are all waiting for the Exclusives

So is this an admission that Wii games are currently better?
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#30 hackslash
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Most people watch movies on their Bluray player PS3. It's secondary function is as a game console.farrell2k

Funny how people say something like this, I would have thought this argument

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]You tout Rayman and Redsteel? It's always quantity over quality with Nintendo isn't it.deathtrap90

Wii still has an exclusive AAA on their system,the PS3 doesnt

Ninja Gainden Sigma? Technically, its exclusive.

Anyways, of course the PS3 isn't selling much software, theres no games to buy, and nobody to buy them. Yet.

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#31 flashattackfina
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[QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]resistance sold 2 million which is OKNike_Air

3 million exactly

More like 1.5 million.

it sold more than that and i know you are a lemming
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[QUOTE="nytrospawn"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]You tout Rayman and Redsteel? It's always quantity over quality with Nintendo isn't it.NobuoMusicMaker

At least theres something the evaluate as quality. PS3's got nothing.

Oh, you mean like the 3 AAAs on PS3. Yeeaaah.

Be proud of your 5.5 Redsteel. Even the devs knew it was crap and apologized for it.

2 of those AAA games were out on PC and 360 before it came to ps3 and the 3rd one is a remake of a xbox port. ;)

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#33 jedigemini
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Software isn't selling because there is no software to sell. People have already bought Resistance, so they have the only software worth buying. Now they are waiting.Sushbag88
Don't Sony fanboys always like to point out how much better the PS3's software is than the Wii's?

And now all of a sudden when confronted with these figures the PS3 has no games?

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[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]You tout Rayman and Redsteel? It's always quantity over quality with Nintendo isn't it.deathtrap90

Wii still has an exclusive AAA on their system,the PS3 doesnt



That is a moot debate there. Also, how dare ANY of you agree with jedigemini.

And jedi, you really should lay off the caffine. First I wanna see a link (which you will no doubt provide), and second, when Nobuo was saying quantity over quality with nintendo, he was saying that Sony seemingly vaules quality over quantity. Which is true. They may not have a ton of games right now, but they have a few pretty good ones. and in the months coming, they have some HIGHLY anticipated, pretty large titles coming, at least one a month. So to think that Sony won't sell more copies in the future is just simply foolish.

I for one haven't bought a game since Motorstorm. I've been waiting for the upcomming storm of awesome games. Like Lair and such.

But hey, You just go ahead and keep playing red steel, and keep hoping that MP3 will score anything over a 7.5-8.0. lol
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#35 deathtrap90
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]resistance sold 2 million which is OKflashattackfina

3 million exactly

More like 1.5 million.

it sold more than that and i know you are a lemming

Wheres your proof ?

I gave you a link

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=1893

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[QUOTE="wiistation360"]i'll make a game on the ps3 called WAITING,where ps3 owners will insert the disc and watch their ps3 fold while waiting for a good game,it'll be #1 on the chart for months ;)flashattackfina
aren't lemming waiting for Halo 3, mass effect, bioshock, blue dragon etc etc etc

Yeah, but we have way more games to play in the meantime.

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[QUOTE="farrell2k"]Most people watch movies on their Bluray player PS3. It's secondary function is as a game console.hackslash

Funny how people say something like this, I would have thought this argument

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]You tout Rayman and Redsteel? It's always quantity over quality with Nintendo isn't it.deathtrap90

Wii still has an exclusive AAA on their system,the PS3 doesnt

Ninja Gainden Sigma? Technically, its exclusive.

Anyways, of course the PS3 isn't selling much software, theres no games to buy, and nobody to buy them. Yet.

i played sigma and black is to what re4 gamecube is to ps2 version with the exceptional of making from the ground up for the ps3. still a good game.

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The PS3 is in process of getting possibly the best games in the business at the end of this year and beginning of 2008 so don't worry, you'll see when PS3 starts getting these games people will rush out to buy a PS3..

DeadMan1290

And you think MS and Nintendo dont have a great line-up too for 08???........lol. Possibly is not a fact. But I believe their sales will rise significantly, but no enough to be number one.

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didn't NGS sell a million? i don't know but expect that to change with the good games coming out this holiday season
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#40 Nike_Air
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]resistance sold 2 million which is OKflashattackfina

3 million exactly

More like 1.5 million.

it sold more than that and i know you are a lemming

I am a lemming !!!! FEAR me !! I while back Sony said they sold (shipped) 2 million copies to retailers. They haven't sold all of those yet from what I can see. I am sure it will get there by the end of this year with a "greatest hits" price reduction.

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[QUOTE="wiistation360"]i'll make a game on the ps3 called WAITING,where ps3 owners will insert the disc and watch their ps3 fold while waiting for a good game,it'll be #1 on the chart for months ;)flashattackfina
aren't lemming waiting for Halo 3, mass effect, bioshock, blue dragon etc etc etc

they are playing games like forza 2,dead rising,dirt,overlord etc whiles waiting for "more" great game.but cows fold and wait for games on their ps3:lol:

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didn't NGS sell a million? i don't know but expect that to change with the good games coming out this holiday seasonRagashahs
You're kidding right?
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[QUOTE="farrell2k"]Most people watch movies on their Bluray player PS3. It's secondary function is as a game console.hackslash

Funny how people say something like this, I would have thought this argument

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]You tout Rayman and Redsteel? It's always quantity over quality with Nintendo isn't it.deathtrap90

Wii still has an exclusive AAA on their system,the PS3 doesnt

Ninja Gainden Sigma? Technically, its exclusive.

Anyways, of course the PS3 isn't selling much software, theres no games to buy, and nobody to buy them. Yet.

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#44 wiistation360
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[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]didn't NGS sell a million? i don't know but expect that to change with the good games coming out this holiday seasonjedigemini
You're kidding right?

when was ng:s released?

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[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]You tout Rayman and Redsteel? It's always quantity over quality with Nintendo isn't it.nytrospawn
At least theres something the evaluate as quality. PS3's got nothing.

But the PS3 would sell 5 million even without games!! :shock:

"We have built up a certain brand equity over time since the launch of PlayStation in 1995 and PS2 in 2000 that the first five million are going to buy it, whatever it is, even if it didn't have games,"

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[QUOTE="hackslash"]

[QUOTE="farrell2k"]Most people watch movies on their Bluray player PS3. It's secondary function is as a game console.wiistation360

Funny how people say something like this, I would have thought this argument

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]You tout Rayman and Redsteel? It's always quantity over quality with Nintendo isn't it.deathtrap90

Wii still has an exclusive AAA on their system,the PS3 doesnt

Ninja Gainden Sigma? Technically, its exclusive.

Anyways, of course the PS3 isn't selling much software, theres no games to buy, and nobody to buy them. Yet.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma's an exclsuive? lmao

Cows always like to point out that PS3 software is so much better than Wii software.... yet now they're saying the PS3 has no software?

Im confused.

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[QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]resistance sold 2 million which is OKdeathtrap90

3 million exactly

More like 1.5 million.

it sold more than that and i know you are a lemming

Wheres your proof ?

I gave you a link

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=1893

http://www.psu.com/node/11678
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#48 jedigemini
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[QUOTE="jedigemini"][QUOTE="Ragashahs"]didn't NGS sell a million? i don't know but expect that to change with the good games coming out this holiday seasonwiistation360

You're kidding right?

when was ng:s released?

In July which is why it puzzles me why this guy seems to think it sold over a million when we have no sales data on it other than Japan, where it doesnt seem to be doing very well :(

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#49 ZicoPT
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when was ng:s released?

wiistation360

In US, 3rd of July andin Europe, 6th of July.

I think it was earlier in Japan, 14th of June, but I'm not sure about this one.

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#50 NorthlandMan
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[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]resistance sold 2 million which is OKflashattackfina
3 million exactly

That's really good

and i expect alot of it has to do with the paltry userbase at the moment. When there are around 10 million + units in homes and some real great exclusives then maybe we can talk, until then it is unfair to make a judgement