New 360 games at VGA?

One of the biggest alarms to 360 owners is that so far, the only announcement has been for a game that has already been announced and has been around for a while, so long that gameplay has already been shown. Does MS have anything planned? Geoff Keighly responds to someone who tweeted:

@geoffkeighley "Too many PS3 stuff at the VGA, K.Butler, Resistance, New Exclusive. C'mon! Nothing awesome and exclusive for 360? Not Fair"

He tweeted back: @Fernando_TMC "Many games still to announce."

But I agree, right now there is nothing that makes a person who is deciding between a PS3 or a 360 go for MS. I know the VGA's isn't MS's X Event but what do other people think? MS already dropped the ball at E3 and GamesCom, IMO.

This is an issue in System Wars. It is not an issue in the real world.

This is an issue in System Wars. It is not an issue in the real world.

dommeus

I'm pretty sure that's why I posted it here in SW. Video Games =/= real world. We all know that.

^^^^ wrong, its an issue for gamers.Kokuro_Kun

[QUOTE="dommeus"]

This is an issue in System Wars. It is not an issue in the real world.

Hatiko

I'm pretty sure that's why I posted it here in SW. Video Games =/= real world. We all know that.

^^^^ wrong, its an issue for gamers.Kokuro_Kun

No not really most people only care that there are games coming out for the system they own. Only on fanboy (system) wars is the exclusive issue such a big deal.

Microsoft dosent "blow their Load" of games prematurly. its always been like that.

[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

One of the biggest alarms to 360 owners is that so far, the only announcement has been for a game that has already been announced and has been around for a while, so long that gameplay has already been shown. Does MS have anything planned? Geoff Keighly responds to someone who tweeted:

@geoffkeighley "Too many PS3 stuff at the VGA, K.Butler, Resistance, New Exclusive. C'mon! Nothing awesome and exclusive for 360? Not Fair"

He tweeted back: @Fernando_TMC "Many games still to announce."

But I agree, right now there is nothing that makes a person who is deciding between a PS3 or a 360 go for MS. I know the VGA's isn't MS's X Event but what do other people think? MS already dropped the ball at E3 and GamesCom, IMO.

AncientDozer

I certainly hope so, 360 needs some more exclusives, come on MS bring your A game.

I have never been alarmed because for the past two years Microsoft's games have been announced very late to the party. That's just how they do it. AncientDozer

I hope MS announces something. And not just anything, like a Kinect title I don't care about, but something good!

I read a report that there will be 13 reveals at the awards lol. MS has to fit in somewhere right?

There facebook thin says to tune in for a Gears of War announcement that'll have everyone talking.
And IGN had sources saying that they were going to announce a GeoW/Kinect game...

There's not really any math to be done on what their announcement is going to be.

I certainly hope so, 360 needs some more exclusives, come on MS bring your A game.

[QUOTE="AncientDozer"]I have never been alarmed because for the past two years Microsoft's games have been announced very late to the party. That's just how they do it. FIipMode

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

I certainly hope so, 360 needs some more exclusives, come on MS bring your A game.

[QUOTE="AncientDozer"]I have never been alarmed because for the past two years Microsoft's games have been announced very late to the party. That's just how they do it. Giancar

Why not. :P

* Gears of War 3 announced April 2010 - prospective release September 2011 - 18 months
* Halo 3 announced E3 May 2006 - released September 2007 - 16 months
* Halo 3 ODST announced at TGS Oct 2008 - released September 2009 - 11 months
* Halo: Reach announced E3 June 2009 - released September 2010 - 15 months
* Halo Wars announced Sept 2006 - released Feb 2009 - 28 months
* Crackdown announced Oct 2005 - released Feb 2007 - 16 months
* Crackdown 2 announced E3 June 2009 - released June 2010 - 12 months
* Fable II announced E3 May 2006 - released Oct 2008 - 29 months
* Fable III announced GamesCom Aug 2009 - prospective release Oct 2010 - 14 months
* Forza Motorsport 2 announced E3 May 2006 - released May 2007 - 12 months
* Lost Odyssey announced E3 May 2005 - released Dec 2007 - 31 months
* Blue Dragon announced E3 May 2006? - released Aug 2007 - 15 months
* Mass Effect announced Oct 2005 - released Nov 2007 - 25 months
* Alan Wake announced god knows when - released May 2010 - too long to count
* Too Human

Take out Alan wake and Too human which had really long dev times, it averages out to a year and a half between the time a game is announced and the time it releases, without even adding the 6 year AW and Too Human, which god knows how long that was in development. I really don't understand this, announces quickly idea.

We go through this EVERY year, and just like this year the 360 will have games. Come one people, most of you were here last year.....in one form or another :Pnavyguy21

And yet the 360 still outsells PS3 in North America.

I'm hoping for a real Banjo adventure...but I've been hoping for a long time. Or Perfect Dark 2. Or to "stop worrying and let Rare make a AAA this gen".

Wait the pgony Kevin Butler is going to be there? Instant fail for Sony...

This is an issue in System Wars. It is not an issue in the real world.

dommeus

Since when does Keighly make good on his hype?

This is an issue in System Wars. It is not an issue in the real world.

dommeus

So when is VGA so we could see what microsoft shows?johny300

What, 360? isn't that thing dead from E3 when it had nothing and totally failed and just died. Seriously, every time some conference is held MS is declared dead, it's quite funny seeing how the thing usually ends up selling better right after these conferences. themyth01

[QUOTE="johny300"]So when is VGA so we could see what microsoft shows?shinrabanshou

[QUOTE="themyth01"] What, 360? isn't that thing dead from E3 when it had nothing and totally failed and just died. Seriously, every time some conference is held MS is declared dead, it's quite funny seeing how the thing usually ends up selling better right after these conferences. Zero_epyon

[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

One of the biggest alarms to 360 owners is that so far, the only announcement has been for a game that has already been announced and has been around for a while, so long that gameplay has already been shown. Does MS have anything planned? Geoff Keighly responds to someone who tweeted:

@geoffkeighley "Too many PS3 stuff at the VGA, K.Butler, Resistance, New Exclusive. C'mon! Nothing awesome and exclusive for 360? Not Fair"

He tweeted back: @Fernando_TMC "Many games still to announce."

But I agree, right now there is nothing that makes a person who is deciding between a PS3 or a 360 go for MS. I know the VGA's isn't MS's X Event but what do other people think? MS already dropped the ball at E3 and GamesCom, IMO.

AncientDozer

[QUOTE="AncientDozer"][QUOTE="Hatiko"] [QUOTE="spookykid143"]

[QUOTE="AncientDozer"][QUOTE="Hatiko"]

One of the biggest alarms to 360 owners is that so far, the only announcement has been for a game that has already been announced and has been around for a while, so long that gameplay has already been shown. Does MS have anything planned? Geoff Keighly responds to someone who tweeted:

@geoffkeighley "Too many PS3 stuff at the VGA, K.Butler, Resistance, New Exclusive. C'mon! Nothing awesome and exclusive for 360? Not Fair"

He tweeted back: @Fernando_TMC "Many games still to announce."

But I agree, right now there is nothing that makes a person who is deciding between a PS3 or a 360 go for MS. I know the VGA's isn't MS's X Event but what do other people think? MS already dropped the ball at E3 and GamesCom, IMO.

spookykid143

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[QUOTE="AncientDozer"]I have never been alarmed because for the past two years Microsoft's games have been announced very late to the party. That's just how they do it. themyth01

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] I don't think that's the impression. At least that's not what I'm getting. I think it's that MS is doing very little in terms of keeping the Fan Base interested in the 360. If the 360 isn't putting out decent games that can only be played on it then what's the point of having it?themyth01

As far as I can find Microsoft Game Studios published games aren't announced any earlier than other platform holders. I have no idea why this idea persists.

• Gears of War 3 announced April 2010 - prospective release September 2011 - 18 months
• Halo 3 announced E3 May 2006 - released September 2007 - 16 months
• Halo 3 ODST announced at TGS Oct 2008 - released September 2009 - 11 months
• Halo: Reach announced E3 June 2009 - released September 2010 - 15 months
• Halo Wars announced Sept 2006 - released Feb 2009 - 28 months
• Crackdown announced Oct 2005 - released Feb 2007 - 16 months
• Crackdown 2 announced E3 June 2009 - released June 2010 - 12 months
• Fable II announced E3 May 2006 - released Oct 2008 - 29 months
• Fable III announced GamesCom Aug 2009 - prospective release Oct 2010 - 14 months
• Forza Motorsport 2 announced E3 May 2006 - released May 2007 - 12 months
• Lost Odyssey announced E3 May 2005 - released Dec 2007 - 31 months
• Blue Dragon announced E3 May 2006? - released Aug 2007 - 15 months
• Mass Effect announced Oct 2005 - released Nov 2007 - 25 months
• Alan Wake announced god knows when - released May 2010 - too long to count
• Too Human - Too Human
• Codename: Kingdoms announced E3 June 2010 - prospective release ??? - prospective getting an actual name ???

There are a few Microsoft Game Studios games that I can find that were announced and released in the same year, like Gears of War 2 (Feb 08 - Nov 08 - still 10 months) and Forza Motorsport 3 (June 2009 - Oct 2009 - 5 months - but known since E3 2008 ).

But these are exceptions, not norms.

shinrabanshou

Oh it was already posted, and yet this idea continues to persist in the thread anyway. This post has become quite useful.

[QUOTE="themyth01"]

[QUOTE="spookykid143"]Where does this myth come from?

spookykid143

Well I stand partly corrected (ODST, Gears 2, Left 4 Dead 2, ...), some games are about 4-5 months more than 12 as I stated which is like about 12 months (just a guesstiamte) less than Sony announcements (GT5, TLG, KZ2, etc).

This is an issue in System Wars. It is not an issue in the real world.

dommeus

[QUOTE="spookykid143"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] From the fact that Halo Reach, ODST, Gears 2, Fable 2/3 etc have all been announced about a year or less before release.

themyth01

Well I stand partly corrected (ODST, Gears 2, Left 4 Dead 2, ...), some games are about 4-5 months more than 12 as I stated which is like about 12 months (just a guesstiamte) less than Sony announcements (GT5, TLG, KZ2, etc).

So how do you expect them to get a game out in less than 12 months? Most of their big releases take more than 12 months.

[QUOTE="themyth01"]

[QUOTE="spookykid143"]* Gears of War 3 announced April 2010 - prospective release September 2011 - 18 months
* Halo 3 announced E3 May 2006 - released September 2007 - 16 months
* Halo 3 ODST announced at TGS Oct 2008 - released September 2009 - 11 months
* Halo: Reach announced E3 June 2009 - released September 2010 - 15 months
* Halo Wars announced Sept 2006 - released Feb 2009 - 28 months
* Crackdown announced Oct 2005 - released Feb 2007 - 16 months
* Crackdown 2 announced E3 June 2009 - released June 2010 - 12 months
* Fable II announced E3 May 2006 - released Oct 2008 - 29 months
* Fable III announced GamesCom Aug 2009 - prospective release Oct 2010 - 14 months
* Forza Motorsport 2 announced E3 May 2006 - released May 2007 - 12 months
* Lost Odyssey announced E3 May 2005 - released Dec 2007 - 31 months
* Blue Dragon announced E3 May 2006? - released Aug 2007 - 15 months
* Mass Effect announced Oct 2005 - released Nov 2007 - 25 months
* Alan Wake announced god knows when - released May 2010 - too long to count

Ragnarok1051

Well I stand partly corrected (ODST, Gears 2, Left 4 Dead 2, ...), some games are about 4-5 months more than 12 as I stated which is like about 12 months (just a guesstiamte) less than Sony announcements (GT5, TLG, KZ2, etc).

So how do you expect them to get a game out in less than 12 months? Most of their big releases take more than 12 months.

of course Microsoft is going to announce more games....dont worry guys, core games too.... They seem to sell...

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"]

Well I stand partly corrected (ODST, Gears 2, Left 4 Dead 2, ...), some games are about 4-5 months more than 12 as I stated which is like about 12 months (just a guesstiamte) less than Sony announcements (GT5, TLG, KZ2, etc).

themyth01

So how do you expect them to get a game out in less than 12 months? Most of their big releases take more than 12 months.

[QUOTE="themyth01"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

So how do you expect them to get a game out in less than 12 months? Most of their big releases take more than 12 months.

Ragnarok1051

[QUOTE="dommeus"]

This is an issue in System Wars. It is not an issue in the real world.

XVision84

When was this?

I really want to see some kingdoms footagebigboss5ak

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="themyth01"] What, 360? isn't that thing dead from E3 when it had nothing and totally failed and just died. Seriously, every time some conference is held MS is declared dead, it's quite funny seeing how the thing usually ends up selling better right after these conferences. themyth01

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="themyth01"] They do take more than 12 months as most games, they just don't announce them at conferences at the beginning of development. We can probably assume Rare is working on something but MS has said absolutely nothing on it, yet they've probably been working on something for about 2 years now. There are cases like Left 4 Dead 2 where devs will actually develop something in about a year though. In any case, I've been hearing the same argument for a while (check GS during 09) and here we are.

themyth01

MS will have 3-4 exclusives out by the end of 2011, which is perfectly fine. AAA exclusives.

Gears, Codename Kingdoms, Forza and im sure MS will announce a few more during the year for the holidays. Its gonna be a good year.

Which ones? Gears 2 was announced on Feb. 20th, 2008, Left 4 Dead 2 was announced on June 1, 2009, ODST was announced on Oct 28, 2008, Banjo was announced May 13, 2008. All those games were announced less than 12 months before release...themyth01

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Sony

God of War III announced E3 July 2008 – released March 2010 – 20 months
Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction announced GDC March 2006 – released October 2007 – 19 months
Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time announced GDC March 2009 – released October 2009 – 7 months
Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One announced Gamescom August 2010 - released October 2011 - 14 months
LittleBigPlanet announced GDC March 2007 – released October 2008 – 19 months
LittleBigPlanet 2 announced May 2010 – released January 2011 – 7 months
Motorstorm announced E3 May 2005 – released March 2007 – 22 months
Motorstorm: Pacific Rift announced TGS September 2007 – released October 2008 – 13 months
Motorstorm: Apocalypse announced June 2010 – released May 2011 – 11 months
Resistance: Fall of Man announced E3 May 2006 – released November 2006 – 6 months
Resistance 2 announced January 2008 – released November 2008 – 10 months
Resistance 3 announced Gamescom August 2010 - released September 2011 - 13 months
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune announced E3 May 2006 – released November 2007 – 18 months
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves announced December 2008 – released October 2009 – 10 months
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception announced SPIKE VGAs December 2010 - released November 2011 - 11 months
inFamous announced E3 July 2007 – released May 2009 – 22 months
inFamous 2 announced June 2010 - released June 2011 - 12 months
Killzone 2 announced E3 May 2005 – released February 2009 – 45 months
Killzone 3 announced May 2010 – released February 2011 – 9 months
ModNation Racers announced E3 June 2009 – released May 2010 – 11 months
Warhawk announced May 2005 – released August 2007 – 27 months
Starhawk announced May 2011 - prospective release February 2012 - 8 months
Folklore announced E3 May 2006 – released October 2007 – 17 months
MAG announced E3 July 2008 – released January 2010 – 17 months
SOCOM 4 announced March 2010 - released April 2011 - 13 months
Twisted Metal announced E3 June 2010 - prospective release February 2011 - 7 months
The Last Guardian announced E3 June 2009 – prospective release 2012 – a long long long time
Heavy Rain announced E3 May 2006 – released February 2010 – 45 months
Gran Turismo 5 – Gran Turismo 5
MLB: The Show released annually with less than 12 months between announcement and release

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Microsoft

Gears of War announced E3 May 2005 – released November 2006 – 18 months
Gears of War 2 announced February 2008 – released November 2008 – 9 months
Gears of War 3 announced April 2010 - released September 2011 - 17 months
Viva Pinata announced March 2006 – released November 2006 – 7 months
Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise announced May 2008 – released September 2008 – 4 months
Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts announced September 2006 – released November 2008 – 26 months
Halo 3 announced E3 May 2006 - released September 2007 - 16 months
Halo 3: ODST announced at TGS October 2008 - released September 2009 - 11 months
Halo: Reach announced E3 June 2009 - released September 2010 - 15 months
Halo 4 announced E3 June 2011 - prospective release Holiday 2012 - 12+ months
Halo Wars announced September 2006 - released February 2009 - 29 months
Crackdown announced October 2005 - released February 2007 - 16 months
Crackdown 2 announced E3 June 2009 – released June 2010 - 12 months
Fable II announced E3 May 2006 - released October 2008 - 29 months
Fable III announced GamesCom August 2009 – released October 2010 - 14 months
Forza Motorsport 2 announced E3 May 2006 – released May 2007 - 12 months
Forza Motorsport 3 announced E3 June 2009 – released October 2009 – 4 months
Forza Motorsport 4 announced SPIKE VGAs December 2010 - released October 2011 - 10 months
Lost Odyssey announced E3 May 2005 - released December 2007 - 31 months
Blue Dragon announced E3 May 2006 - released August 2007 - 15 months
Mass Effect announced October 2005 - released November 2007 - 25 months
Alan Wake announced god knows when - released May 2010 - too long to count
Too Human - Too Human

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Games released 11 months or less after announcement

Games released 12 - 23 months after announcement

Games released 24 or more months after announcement

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In other words neither company announces games super early or super late in general. Typically games are announced 12-18 months prior to release.