Just keeps getting better everyday. Environments are AWESOME!! Discuss.......
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[QUOTE="sillaris"]Hope your not serious. Sadly...I think he is...:( Please, let's not turn this into another Forza vs GT war. Forza 3 is as much a racing sim as GT.forza 3 is a arcade racer, its not ment to be taken serious like GT5 is a sim
kingtito
[QUOTE="sillaris"]Hope your not serious. Why do you say that? Anyhow the video was great till they did that replay trash, and started smashing into cars(no damage at over 140mph, and no loss of steering):| Didn't like it in Madden or Grid, and its great in POP....not a racing sim thing to do. Other than should be a great game...forza 3 is a arcade racer, its not ment to be taken serious like GT5 is a sim
kingtito
wow notice alot of pops up. also the graphics arent as good as i thought it would be. but none the less it looks better then forza2, but not close to GT5p :(
game play rewind = racing for newbs?
spike6566
Um, the art style maybe confusing you but forza's cars are easily on par with GT5s not to mention that the environments are far superior with more things going on (like the waterfall in an earlier trailer).
[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="sillaris"]Hope your not serious. Why do you say that? Anyhow the video was great till they did that replay trash, and started smashing into cars(no damage at over 140mph, and no loss of steering):| Didn't like it in Madden or Grid, and its great in POP....not a racing sim thing to do. Other than should be a great game...forza 3 is a arcade racer, its not ment to be taken serious like GT5 is a sim
Adrian_Cloud
It was on arcade mode.
[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="sillaris"]Hope your not serious. Why do you say that? Anyhow the video was great till they did that replay trash, and started smashing into cars(no damage at over 140mph, and no loss of steering):| Didn't like it in Madden or Grid, and its great in POP....not a racing sim thing to do. Other than should be a great game... Or, the damage could've been set to cosmetic...:| And seriously...GT4 and GT5: P don't have any damage (cosmetic or not) and yet I don't see you bashing that...forza 3 is a arcade racer, its not ment to be taken serious like GT5 is a sim
Adrian_Cloud
Precisely, people don't use rewind to learn more about the track. They just use it to undo their mistakes, its not about getting the perfect line its about correcting the error you made. In some areas it looks better than GT5: P is alot of areas it doesn't. But i really am on your side with the replay thing, i won't be using it, in fact no serious gamer is going to use it. Its like cheating yourself. You make a mistake, you pay for it.wow notice alot of pops up. also the graphics arent as good as i thought it would be. but none the less it looks better then forza2, but not close to GT5p :(
game play rewind = racing for newbs?
spike6566
[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="sillaris"]Hope your not serious. Why do you say that? Anyhow the video was great till they did that replay trash, and started smashing into cars(no damage at over 140mph, and no loss of steering):| Didn't like it in Madden or Grid, and its great in POP....not a racing sim thing to do. Other than should be a great game...forza 3 is a arcade racer, its not ment to be taken serious like GT5 is a sim
Adrian_Cloud
There were assists on. All of those things you mentioned can be turned off.
[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="kingtito"] Hope your not serious. The_Game21xWhy do you say that? Anyhow the video was great till they did that replay trash, and started smashing into cars(no damage at over 140mph, and no loss of steering):| Didn't like it in Madden or Grid, and its great in POP....not a racing sim thing to do. Other than should be a great game... Or, the damage could've been set to cosmetic...:| And seriously...GT4 and GT5: P don't have any damage (cosmetic or not) and yet I don't see you bashing that...
It's hilarious you said don't turn it into a Forza vs GT thread yet that's exactly what you did here.
So you two aren't impressed with Forza 3, Adrian and Spike? Imagine that.
Anyways, Flopza 3 is looking quite nice.
Why do you say that? Anyhow the video was great till they did that replay trash, and started smashing into cars(no damage at over 140mph, and no loss of steering):| Didn't like it in Madden or Grid, and its great in POP....not a racing sim thing to do. Other than should be a great game...[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="kingtito"] Hope your not serious. dracula_16
There were assists on. All of those things you mentioned can be turned off.
Thats great and all, i would really like to believe that. So your telling me with assists on you can roll over a car, but still have no damage or loss of steering? Really, i'd like to believe. But i can't, its a great looking game though. Its a definite rental for me.Or, the damage could've been set to cosmetic...:| And seriously...GT4 and GT5: P don't have any damage (cosmetic or not) and yet I don't see you bashing that...[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Why do you say that? Anyhow the video was great till they did that replay trash, and started smashing into cars(no damage at over 140mph, and no loss of steering):| Didn't like it in Madden or Grid, and its great in POP....not a racing sim thing to do. Other than should be a great game... Espada12
It's hilarious you said don't turn it into a Forza vs GT thread yet that's exactly what you did here.
:roll:
And yet you say nothing to the others who bashed Forza before me. Nice.
He hit a car going over 140 mph. 140 mph...ONE HUNDRED FORTY MILES PER HOUR. Its really fantastic that the cars can roll over, but getting it at 140mph, there just fine:| I'm not complaining because GT4 is over 4 years old and GT5: P is just a demo. Yes, let me complain four years after the fact. There was no damage in GT4, I am SOO unhappy. Adrian_Cloud
What part of "there were assists" is hard to understand?
wow notice alot of pops up. also the graphics arent as good as i thought it would be. but none the less it looks better then forza2, but not close to GT5p :(
game play rewind = racing for newbs?
spike6566
In response to the bolded. I think thats the whole point of the rewind feature. Its there to try to make the game more accessible to play for those who don't really play racing games but really have an interest in cars. For hardcore racing game fans you don't have to use it and infact I'd bet that its not even possible to use on the harder difficulty settings.
Not really Forza 3 really isn't pushing the genre forward with the same dedication as the GT serious. Nascar and WRC offer different challenges and make it much more diverse than any racer in the market and any upcoming racer. Both those motorsports take different kinds of skill, and will truly convert Nascar haters who think the sport is boring. Forza 3 seems like just an improved Forza 2, they took everything people complained about or just wanted added to the game and did that. In that they have truly succeeded in what Polyphony did with GT5: P. yes, anyways Forza 3 looks really good.So you two aren't impressed with Forza 3, Adrian and Spike? Imagine that.
Anyways, Flopza 3 is looking quite nice.
BioShockOwnz
[QUOTE="dracula_16"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Why do you say that? Anyhow the video was great till they did that replay trash, and started smashing into cars(no damage at over 140mph, and no loss of steering):| Didn't like it in Madden or Grid, and its great in POP....not a racing sim thing to do. Other than should be a great game... Adrian_Cloud
There were assists on. All of those things you mentioned can be turned off.
Thats great and all, i would really like to believe that. So your telling me with assists on you can roll over a car, but still have no damage or loss of steering? Really, i'd like to believe. But i can't, its a great looking game though. Its a definite rental for me.No you wouldn't-- otherwise you wouldn't be disregarding facts that are documented, which is precisely what you're doing now.
[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] He hit a car going over 140 mph. 140 mph...ONE HUNDRED FORTY MILES PER HOUR. Its really fantastic that the cars can roll over, but getting it at 140mph, there just fine:| I'm not complaining because GT4 is over 4 years old and GT5: P is just a demo. Yes, let me complain four years after the fact. There was no damage in GT4, I am SOO unhappy. dracula_16
What part of "there were assists" is hard to understand?
I wasn't replying to you?[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Why do you say that? Anyhow the video was great till they did that replay trash, and started smashing into cars(no damage at over 140mph, and no loss of steering):| Didn't like it in Madden or Grid, and its great in POP....not a racing sim thing to do. Other than should be a great game... Adrian_CloudOr, the damage could've been set to cosmetic...:| And seriously...GT4 and GT5: P don't have any damage (cosmetic or not) and yet I don't see you bashing that... He hit a car going over 140 mph. 140 mph...ONE HUNDRED FORTY MILES PER HOUR. Its really fantastic that the cars can roll over, but getting it at 140mph, there just fine:| I'm not complaining because GT4 is over 4 years old and GT5: P is just a demo. Yes, let me complain four years after the fact. There was no damage in GT4, I am SOO unhappy.
On the cosmetic assist setting, the damage is just that, cosmetic. What's so hard to understand about that? :?
Let's not act like the damage won't impact your car when the damge is turned on to limited or simulation levels.
Thats great and all, i would really like to believe that. So your telling me with assists on you can roll over a car, but still have no damage or loss of steering? Really, i'd like to believe. But i can't, its a great looking game though. Its a definite rental for me.Adrian_CloudYou obviously haven't watched the video, because exactly 11 seconds in it shows Greenawalt selecting the difficulty, where you can clearly see he is using the "Easy" settings and has all driver aids except for "Auto-Brake" on. He is literally using the easiest setting that lets you drive for yourself.
[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Not really Forza 3 really isn't pushing the genre forward with the same dedication as the GT serious. Nascar and WRC offer different challenges and make it much more diverse than any racer in the market and any upcoming racer. Both those motorsports take different kinds of skill, and will truly convert Nascar haters who think the sport is boring. Forza 3 seems like just an improved Forza 2, they took everything people complained about or just wanted added to the game and did that. In that they have truly succeeded in what Polyphony did with GT5: P. yes, anyways Forza 3 looks really good.So you two aren't impressed with Forza 3, Adrian and Spike? Imagine that.
Anyways, Flopza 3 is looking quite nice.
Adrian_Cloud
Hmm, uh huh.
"They've obviously played the game unlike many people here. Crysis and Killzone 2 are on the same level. There really isn't enough difference in the fidelity of graphics to put one game way ahead of the other. I think they were just impressed more by what killzone 2 did with its graphics"
Remember that one?
So yeah, I'll take your Forza 3 complaints as a pro, not a con.
Thats great and all, i would really like to believe that. So your telling me with assists on you can roll over a car, but still have no damage or loss of steering? Really, i'd like to believe. But i can't, its a great looking game though. Its a definite rental for me.[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]
There were assists on. All of those things you mentioned can be turned off.
dracula_16
No you wouldn't-- otherwise you wouldn't be disregarding facts that are documented, which is precisely what you're doing now.
I'm not, assists were on. Yet the developers said you could still roll over. :|Not really Forza 3 really isn't pushing the genre forward with the same dedication as the GT serious. Nascar and WRC offer different challenges and make it much more diverse than any racer in the market and any upcoming racer. Both those motorsports take different kinds of skill, and will truly convert Nascar haters who think the sport is boring. Forza 3 seems like just an improved Forza 2, they took everything people complained about or just wanted added to the game and did that. In that they have truly succeeded in what Polyphony did with GT5: P. yes, anyways Forza 3 looks really good.[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]
So you two aren't impressed with Forza 3, Adrian and Spike? Imagine that.
Anyways, Flopza 3 is looking quite nice.
BioShockOwnz
Hmm, uh huh.
"They've obviously played the game unlike many people here. Crysis and Killzone 2 are on the same level. There really isn't enough difference in the fidelity of graphics to put one game way ahead of the other. I think they were just impressed more by what killzone 2 did with its graphics"
Remember that one?
So yeah, I'll take your Forza 3 complaints as a pro, not a con.
Yea I remember that one, i guess i'm a bit jaded. I still get impressed when i play resident evil 4 and otogi, blasted. My opinion differs from yours so i must be discredited.. The only complaint ... real complaint about Forza 3 is the blasted Rewind feature.. it should discarded. Everything else is fine, whats wrong with improving on whats already been proven to be AAA? You guys really need to learn how to accept different perspectives, i haven't been negative about this game in this thread at all.You obviously haven't watched the video, because exactly 11 seconds in it shows Greenawalt selecting the difficulty, where you can clearly see he is using the "Easy" settings and has all driver aids except for "Auto-Brake" on. He is literally using the easiest setting that lets you drive for yourself. So once again, in the easiest setting. You can roll over, yet have no damage. THATS FANTASTIC!!![QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Thats great and all, i would really like to believe that. So your telling me with assists on you can roll over a car, but still have no damage or loss of steering? Really, i'd like to believe. But i can't, its a great looking game though. Its a definite rental for me.PBSnipes
All these people bringing GT5 into this Forza discussion are tarring all of us legitimate Forza haters with the same brush. :P
But seriously, why, if the screenshots are really "screenshots" do they always look better than the actual gameplay when it comes to console games? I thought they said this was unbelievable in terms of visual finesse... I wouldn't mind if they hadn't lied about the bullshots.
[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]You obviously haven't watched the video, because exactly 11 seconds in it shows Greenawalt selecting the difficulty, where you can clearly see he is using the "Easy" settings and has all driver aids except for "Auto-Brake" on. He is literally using the easiest setting that lets you drive for yourself. So once again, in the easiest setting. You can roll over, yet have no damage. THATS FANTASTIC!!![QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Thats great and all, i would really like to believe that. So your telling me with assists on you can roll over a car, but still have no damage or loss of steering? Really, i'd like to believe. But i can't, its a great looking game though. Its a definite rental for me.Adrian_Cloud
Oh dear oh dear. If it is such a problem then just play on the harder difficulties. Oh wait you can't because you can't play this game on a PS3.
[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Not really Forza 3 really isn't pushing the genre forward with the same dedication as the GT serious. Nascar and WRC offer different challenges and make it much more diverse than any racer in the market and any upcoming racer. Both those motorsports take different kinds of skill, and will truly convert Nascar haters who think the sport is boring. Forza 3 seems like just an improved Forza 2, they took everything people complained about or just wanted added to the game and did that. In that they have truly succeeded in what Polyphony did with GT5: P. yes, anyways Forza 3 looks really good.Adrian_Cloud
Hmm, uh huh.
"They've obviously played the game unlike many people here. Crysis and Killzone 2 are on the same level. There really isn't enough difference in the fidelity of graphics to put one game way ahead of the other. I think they were just impressed more by what killzone 2 did with its graphics"
Remember that one?
So yeah, I'll take your Forza 3 complaints as a pro, not a con.
Yea I remember that one, i guess i'm a bit jaded. I still get impressed when i play resident evil 4 and otogi, blasted. My opinion differs from yours so i must be discredited.. The only complaint ... real complaint about Forza 3 is the blasted Rewind feature.. it should discarded. Everything else is fine, whats wrong with improving on whats already been proven to be AAA? You guys really need to learn how to accept different perspectives, i haven't been negative about this game in this thread at all.Yet you've bashed Forza 2 and now Forza 3 for its graphics. So that's your defense after you said Killzone 2 looks as good as Crysis (lolwut?), and now that doesn't even match up to your prior posts.
So once again, in the easiest setting. You can roll over, yet have no damage. THATS FANTASTIC!!![QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"] You obviously haven't watched the video, because exactly 11 seconds in it shows Greenawalt selecting the difficulty, where you can clearly see he is using the "Easy" settings and has all driver aids except for "Auto-Brake" on. He is literally using the easiest setting that lets you drive for yourself.
Ross_the_B0SS
Oh dear oh dear. If it is such a problem then just play on the harder difficulties. Oh wait you can't because you can't play this game on a PS3.
I can still rent it, for my 360. Its 200 cheaper, of course i have one.Hey Adrian,
To be fair this arguement is lame. there has been damage modeling before Forza and PGR. I don't see why this is such a big deal. damage modeling does not make one game better than the other or realistic. especially when its purely aesthetic. I don't know anymore, this place doesn't make sense.Adrian_Cloud
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26737246&msg_id=308562867#308562867
Care to explain?
Hey Adrian,
[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]To be fair this arguement is lame. there has been damage modeling before Forza and PGR. I don't see why this is such a big deal. damage modeling does not make one game better than the other or realistic. especially when its purely aesthetic. I don't know anymore, this place doesn't make sense.BioShockOwnz
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26737246&msg_id=308562867#308562867
Care to explain?
Oh dear. :lol: I remember that thread.
I think someone either didn't know the meaning of "aesthetic", or they had never played Forza or Forza 2...
Yea I remember that one, i guess i'm a bit jaded. I still get impressed when i play resident evil 4 and otogi, blasted. My opinion differs from yours so i must be discredited.. The only complaint ... real complaint about Forza 3 is the blasted Rewind feature.. it should discarded. Everything else is fine, whats wrong with improving on whats already been proven to be AAA? You guys really need to learn how to accept different perspectives, i haven't been negative about this game in this thread at all.[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]
Hmm, uh huh.
"They've obviously played the game unlike many people here. Crysis and Killzone 2 are on the same level. There really isn't enough difference in the fidelity of graphics to put one game way ahead of the other. I think they were just impressed more by what killzone 2 did with its graphics"
Remember that one?
So yeah, I'll take your Forza 3 complaints as a pro, not a con.
BioShockOwnz
Yet you've bashed Forza 2 and now Forza 3 for its graphics. So that's your defense after you said Killzone 2 looks as good as Crysis (lolwut?), and now that doesn't even match up to your prior posts.
Its not my defense,and Forza 2 looks well, lets just say it has problems (where are my textures, i'm getting cut just by watching the screen). Forza 3 has great graphics...uhnm it has great graphics.Hey Adrian,
[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]To be fair this arguement is lame. there has been damage modeling before Forza and PGR. I don't see why this is such a big deal. damage modeling does not make one game better than the other or realistic. especially when its purely aesthetic. I don't know anymore, this place doesn't make sense.BioShockOwnz
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26737246&msg_id=308562867#308562867
Care to explain?
I don't see how this relates to anything i posted? This argument is lame.. that relates to what was being said in the thread. Do you know what the argument was? and to the poster under this quote its funny that you say that considering the damage wasn't even aesthetic or affected performance :| So.. let not go off topic now.[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Hey Adrian,
[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]To be fair this arguement is lame. there has been damage modeling before Forza and PGR. I don't see why this is such a big deal. damage modeling does not make one game better than the other or realistic. especially when its purely aesthetic. I don't know anymore, this place doesn't make sense.Adrian_Cloud
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26737246&msg_id=308562867#308562867
Care to explain?
I don't see how this relates to anything i posted? This argument is lame.. that relates to what was being said in the thread. Do you know what the argument was? and to the poster under this quote its funny that you say that considering the damage wasn't even aesthetic or affected performance :| So.. let not go off topic now. Are you referring to me? If so, are you once again falsely arguing that the damage in Forza 1 and 2 is aesthetic and doesn't affect performance? :| Surely you jest...[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I don't see how this relates to anything i posted? This argument is lame.. that relates to what was being said in the thread. Do you know what the argument was? and to the poster under this quote its funny that you say that considering the damage wasn't even aesthetic or affected performance :| So.. let not go off topic now. Are you referring to me? If so, are you once again falsely arguing that the damage in Forza 1 and 2 is aesthetic and doesn't affect performance? :| Surely you jest... oh nice. we were all talking about the Forza 3 vid, glad you came out.http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26737246&msg_id=308562867#308562867
Care to explain?
The_Game21x
Are you referring to me? If so, are you once again falsely arguing that the damage in Forza 1 and 2 is aesthetic and doesn't affect performance? :| Surely you jest... oh nice. we were all talking about the Forza 3 vid, glad you came out. Once again, you're dodging my questions. Nice. :|[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] I don't see how this relates to anything i posted? This argument is lame.. that relates to what was being said in the thread. Do you know what the argument was? and to the poster under this quote its funny that you say that considering the damage wasn't even aesthetic or affected performance :| So.. let not go off topic now.Adrian_Cloud
[QUOTE="Espada12"]
[QUOTE="The_Game21x"] Or, the damage could've been set to cosmetic...:| And seriously...GT4 and GT5: P don't have any damage (cosmetic or not) and yet I don't see you bashing that...The_Game21x
It's hilarious you said don't turn it into a Forza vs GT thread yet that's exactly what you did here.
:roll:
And yet you say nothing to the others who bashed Forza before me. Nice.
Because they didn't make the statement.
[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]oh nice. we were all talking about the Forza 3 vid, glad you came out. Once again, you're dodging my questions. Nice. :| I'm not much for digression. Sorry.[QUOTE="The_Game21x"] Are you referring to me? If so, are you once again falsely arguing that the damage in Forza 1 and 2 is aesthetic and doesn't affect performance? :| Surely you jest...The_Game21x
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