New japanese book asks why the PS3 "failed"

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"][QUOTE="tango90101"][

tango90101

Yea again as you say OPINION not fact. You can say more then one guys opinion, but thats what it is an opinion. Opinion doesint=fact.

it's a fact. they lost 95% of the their usebase, losing money faster than ever before, and their LAST place stance is only getting farther behind...

the ONLY ones who don't see the ps3 as being a failure are those with fanboy goggles....

approaching one year on the market and still haven't hit 5 million sold? = failure..

go ahead... believe what you want, but the FACTS prove otherwise...

FACT 360 was out first and longer thefore it got more sells. Thats a fact you cant fight. Also some gamers who own a 360 already either dont have the money to spend on a new system or just dont want it.

yes, the 360 came out first.

but it wasn't supposed to matter according to cows and sony... after all, all sony users are LOYAL ...:roll:

maybe the customers didn't get the memo....

you're right tho.... most casuals haven't made the jump to next gen... and do you know why? because of pricing...

and the ps3 will perpetually be behind the others in pricing... due to sony's poor business plan....

when you move from first to LAST... that is a failure...sorry...

I give it to MS even with all the dieing 360's. That was a smat business move to come out first because if it was vice-versa PS3 would most likely be on top.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="threegodhalo"]Damn, the rules state to not quote more than 4!

And Again, Sony messed up big time and is selling crap.

2-3 million in more than half a year now. The 360 was close to 10 million in a year's time.
threegodhalo

DID you put in the fact that the 360 was the ONLY next-gen system around at the time and having the newest system was the thing. Its kind of like saying when madden was the only football game around. Why you think it sold so well? because consumers had no other choice at the time.

An Xbot in action! Wii is doing great because of the price. It's only a matter of time before PS3 and 360 drops prices to mainstream level and sales start to surge. Oh Wait! The 360 is already a very cheap console and people are still not embrasing it. Since when is MGS4 a failure. Don't be such a dumb-ass.

[QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="threegodhalo"]Damn, the rules state to not quote more than 4!

And Again, Sony messed up big time and is selling crap.

2-3 million in more than half a year now. The 360 was close to 10 million in a year's time.
finalfantasy94

DID you put in the fact that the 360 was the ONLY next-gen system around at the time and having the newest system was the thing. Its kind of like saying when madden was the only football game around. Why you think it sold so well? because consumers had no other choice at the time.

Yea mainly cause wii is cheaply priced. If PS3 came out first before 360 who you think would be on top? PS3 you know why because people whould say "I already spend 600 bucks on a new system and I cant spare money at the moment" Thats fact. Also I think you mean quantity because quality means your system wont die out on you everytime.

[QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="threegodhalo"]Damn, the rules state to not quote more than 4!

And Again, Sony messed up big time and is selling crap.

2-3 million in more than half a year now. The 360 was close to 10 million in a year's time.
azad_champ

DID you put in the fact that the 360 was the ONLY next-gen system around at the time and having the newest system was the thing. Its kind of like saying when madden was the only football game around. Why you think it sold so well? because consumers had no other choice at the time.

An Xbot in action! Wii is doing great because of the price. It's only a matter of time before PS3 and 360 drops prices to mainstream level and sales start to surge. Oh Wait! The 360 is already a very cheap console and people are still not embrasing it. Since when is MGS4 a failure. Don't be such a dumb-ass.

[QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="tango90101"][

tango90101

Yea again as you say OPINION not fact. You can say more then one guys opinion, but thats what it is an opinion. Opinion doesint=fact.

it's a fact. they lost 95% of the their usebase, losing money faster than ever before, and their LAST place stance is only getting farther behind...

the ONLY ones who don't see the ps3 as being a failure are those with fanboy goggles....

approaching one year on the market and still haven't hit 5 million sold? = failure..

go ahead... believe what you want, but the FACTS prove otherwise...

Yeah, Sony totally lost 100 million PS2 owners. That's why there are 50 million Wii and 50 million 360's sold.The only ones who can't admit that PS3 isn't failure until a few years is a fanboy. And besides, the PS3 is almostsellingat the same speed as 360 in their respective lifetime.

that's weird because sony THEMSELVES called the xbox a failure only after 6 months on the market...

but it's different now? sorry... no double standards...;)

That's weird. MS called PS3 a failure at launch. Corporate dudes will do everything to badmouth each other.

:lol:

[QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="threegodhalo"]Damn, the rules state to not quote more than 4!

And Again, Sony messed up big time and is selling crap.

2-3 million in more than half a year now. The 360 was close to 10 million in a year's time.
threegodhalo

DID you put in the fact that the 360 was the ONLY next-gen system around at the time and having the newest system was the thing. Its kind of like saying when madden was the only football game around. Why you think it sold so well? because consumers had no other choice at the time.

An Xbot in action! Wii is doing great because of the price. It's only a matter of time before PS3 and 360 drops prices to mainstream level and sales start to surge. Oh Wait! The 360 is already a very cheap console and people are still not embrasing it. Since when is MGS4 a failure. Don't be such a dumb-ass.

Lost Planet,Saints Row,Dead Rising were hyped AAA but all flopped. Don't try to messiah the 360. Warhawk hasn't failed by the way and it's funny how you ignored my post.

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="tango90101"][

azad_champ

Yea again as you say OPINION not fact. You can say more then one guys opinion, but thats what it is an opinion. Opinion doesint=fact.

it's a fact. they lost 95% of the their usebase, losing money faster than ever before, and their LAST place stance is only getting farther behind...

the ONLY ones who don't see the ps3 as being a failure are those with fanboy goggles....

approaching one year on the market and still haven't hit 5 million sold? = failure..

go ahead... believe what you want, but the FACTS prove otherwise...

Yeah, Sony totally lost 100 million PS2 owners. That's why there are 50 million Wii and 50 million 360's sold.The only ones who can't admit that PS3 isn't failure until a few years is a fanboy. And besides, the PS3 is almostsellingat the same speed as 360 in their respective lifetime.

that's weird because sony THEMSELVES called the xbox a failure only after 6 months on the market...

but it's different now? sorry... no double standards...;)

That's weird. MS called PS3 a failure at launch. Corporate dudes will do everything to badmouth each other.

i don't remember that... got a quote..?

mine was from sony's press conference at E3 2002....

but, if MS did say that, they were the only ones telling the truth then, weren't they...;)

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="threegodhalo"]Damn, the rules state to not quote more than 4!

And Again, Sony messed up big time and is selling crap.

2-3 million in more than half a year now. The 360 was close to 10 million in a year's time.
threegodhalo

DID you put in the fact that the 360 was the ONLY next-gen system around at the time and having the newest system was the thing. Its kind of like saying when madden was the only football game around. Why you think it sold so well? because consumers had no other choice at the time.

Yea mainly cause wii is cheaply priced. If PS3 came out first before 360 who you think would be on top? PS3 you know why because people whould say "I already spend 600 bucks on a new system and I cant spare money at the moment" Thats fact. Also I think you mean quantity because quality means your system wont die out on you everytime.

[QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="threegodhalo"]Damn, the rules state to not quote more than 4!

And Again, Sony messed up big time and is selling crap.

2-3 million in more than half a year now. The 360 was close to 10 million in a year's time.
azad_champ

DID you put in the fact that the 360 was the ONLY next-gen system around at the time and having the newest system was the thing. Its kind of like saying when madden was the only football game around. Why you think it sold so well? because consumers had no other choice at the time.

An Xbot in action! Wii is doing great because of the price. It's only a matter of time before PS3 and 360 drops prices to mainstream level and sales start to surge. Oh Wait! The 360 is already a very cheap console and people are still not embrasing it. Since when is MGS4 a failure. Don't be such a dumb-ass.

Lost Planet,Saints Row,Dead Rising were hyped AAA but all flopped. Don't try to messiah the 360. Warhawk hasn't failed by the way and it's funny how you ignored my post.

[QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="threegodhalo"]Damn, the rules state to not quote more than 4!

And Again, Sony messed up big time and is selling crap.

2-3 million in more than half a year now. The 360 was close to 10 million in a year's time.
castlevaniaX

DID you put in the fact that the 360 was the ONLY next-gen system around at the time and having the newest system was the thing. Its kind of like saying when madden was the only football game around. Why you think it sold so well? because consumers had no other choice at the time.

Yea mainly cause wii is cheaply priced. If PS3 came out first before 360 who you think would be on top? PS3 you know why because people whould say "I already spend 600 bucks on a new system and I cant spare money at the moment" Thats fact. Also I think you mean quantity because quality means your system wont die out on you everytime.

the ps2 sold a ton even as sony was being sued for poor workmanship..

apparently consumers care more about price than perceived quality....;)

let me guess..."this is different"...right? :roll:

[QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="threegodhalo"]Damn, the rules state to not quote more than 4!

And Again, Sony messed up big time and is selling crap.

2-3 million in more than half a year now. The 360 was close to 10 million in a year's time.
threegodhalo

DID you put in the fact that the 360 was the ONLY next-gen system around at the time and having the newest system was the thing. Its kind of like saying when madden was the only football game around. Why you think it sold so well? because consumers had no other choice at the time.

An Xbot in action! Wii is doing great because of the price. It's only a matter of time before PS3 and 360 drops prices to mainstream level and sales start to surge. Oh Wait! The 360 is already a very cheap console and people are still not embrasing it. Since when is MGS4 a failure. Don't be such a dumb-ass.

Lost Planet,Saints Row,Dead Rising were hyped AAA but all flopped. Don't try to messiah the 360. Warhawk hasn't failed by the way and it's funny how you ignored my post.

LMAO thats opinion not fact buddy.

[QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="threegodhalo"]Damn, the rules state to not quote more than 4!

And Again, Sony messed up big time and is selling crap.

2-3 million in more than half a year now. The 360 was close to 10 million in a year's time.
finalfantasy94

DID you put in the fact that the 360 was the ONLY next-gen system around at the time and having the newest system was the thing. Its kind of like saying when madden was the only football game around. Why you think it sold so well? because consumers had no other choice at the time.

An Xbot in action! Wii is doing great because of the price. It's only a matter of time before PS3 and 360 drops prices to mainstream level and sales start to surge. Oh Wait! The 360 is already a very cheap console and people are still not embrasing it. Since when is MGS4 a failure. Don't be such a dumb-ass.

Lost Planet,Saints Row,Dead Rising were hyped AAA but all flopped. Don't try to messiah the 360. Warhawk hasn't failed by the way and it's funny how you ignored my post.

LMAO thats opinion not fact buddy.

Gears and Halo 3 say hi.

6 million preorders?
Number 1 top selling game of 2007?
Multi-player of the year?
Game of the Year goes to us again?

Yeah, I thought so...haters will be owned on September 25th.

[QUOTE="castlevaniaX"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="threegodhalo"]Damn, the rules state to not quote more than 4!

And Again, Sony messed up big time and is selling crap.

2-3 million in more than half a year now. The 360 was close to 10 million in a year's time.
tango90101

DID you put in the fact that the 360 was the ONLY next-gen system around at the time and having the newest system was the thing. Its kind of like saying when madden was the only football game around. Why you think it sold so well? because consumers had no other choice at the time.

Yea mainly cause wii is cheaply priced. If PS3 came out first before 360 who you think would be on top? PS3 you know why because people whould say "I already spend 600 bucks on a new system and I cant spare money at the moment" Thats fact. Also I think you mean quantity because quality means your system wont die out on you everytime.

the ps2 sold a ton even as sony was being sued for poor workmanship..

apparently consumers care more about price than perceived quality....;)

let me guess..."this is different"...right? :roll:

sony has never (even now) owned up to the probs of the ps2, so who know how many were affected...

no sony never said "certain units"

sony DID lie about it; they stated "nothing" was wrong with the ps2, refusing to replace units until they were SUED... and lost...;)

you need to do more research, kid...

ps..yes... you have been OWNED... but hey...you brought it on yourself...;)

[QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="threegodhalo"]Damn, the rules state to not quote more than 4!

And Again, Sony messed up big time and is selling crap.

2-3 million in more than half a year now. The 360 was close to 10 million in a year's time.
threegodhalo

DID you put in the fact that the 360 was the ONLY next-gen system around at the time and having the newest system was the thing. Its kind of like saying when madden was the only football game around. Why you think it sold so well? because consumers had no other choice at the time.

An Xbot in action! Wii is doing great because of the price. It's only a matter of time before PS3 and 360 drops prices to mainstream level and sales start to surge. Oh Wait! The 360 is already a very cheap console and people are still not embrasing it. Since when is MGS4 a failure. Don't be such a dumb-ass.

Lost Planet,Saints Row,Dead Rising were hyped AAA but all flopped. Don't try to messiah the 360. Warhawk hasn't failed by the way and it's funny how you ignored my post.

No, i'm sure that those titles were hyped AAA by SW. Has 360 better online because it charges 60$/year and and that a online-only game costs 60$? And stop trying to use that stupid statements in you sig. You're 100% biased and a puppet to MS.

[QUOTE="LordXelNaga"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"]Haha, and Cows say that FlopStation 3 is doing well in Japan. Oh well, at least Microsoft and Nintendo are doing okay. Halo 3.

Remember, remember, the 25th of September.
ForgottenDemon

What?!! 360 is the best in the console sales YO! Why do you say that it failed *sigh*

well its being outsold by the ps3 over there. i think that says a little something about japanese love for the 360, there isnt any.

[QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="threegodhalo"]Damn, the rules state to not quote more than 4!

And Again, Sony messed up big time and is selling crap.

2-3 million in more than half a year now. The 360 was close to 10 million in a year's time.
azad_champ

DID you put in the fact that the 360 was the ONLY next-gen system around at the time and having the newest system was the thing. Its kind of like saying when madden was the only football game around. Why you think it sold so well? because consumers had no other choice at the time.

An Xbot in action! Wii is doing great because of the price. It's only a matter of time before PS3 and 360 drops prices to mainstream level and sales start to surge. Oh Wait! The 360 is already a very cheap console and people are still not embrasing it. Since when is MGS4 a failure. Don't be such a dumb-ass.

Lost Planet,Saints Row,Dead Rising were hyped AAA but all flopped. Don't try to messiah the 360. Warhawk hasn't failed by the way and it's funny how you ignored my post.

No, i'm sure that those titles were hyped AAA by SW. Has 360 better online because it charges 60$/year and and that a online-only game costs 60$? And stop trying to use that stupid statements in you sig. You're 100% biased and a puppet to MS.

[QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="threegodhalo"]Damn, the rules state to not quote more than 4!

And Again, Sony messed up big time and is selling crap.

2-3 million in more than half a year now. The 360 was close to 10 million in a year's time.
threegodhalo

DID you put in the fact that the 360 was the ONLY next-gen system around at the time and having the newest system was the thing. Its kind of like saying when madden was the only football game around. Why you think it sold so well? because consumers had no other choice at the time.

An Xbot in action! Wii is doing great because of the price. It's only a matter of time before PS3 and 360 drops prices to mainstream level and sales start to surge. Oh Wait! The 360 is already a very cheap console and people are still not embrasing it. Since when is MGS4 a failure. Don't be such a dumb-ass.

Lost Planet,Saints Row,Dead Rising were hyped AAA but all flopped. Don't try to messiah the 360. Warhawk hasn't failed by the way and it's funny how you ignored my post.

No, i'm sure that those titles were hyped AAA by SW. Has 360 better online because it charges 60$/year and and that a online-only game costs 60$? And stop trying to use that stupid statements in you sig. You're 100% biased and a puppet to MS.

I was referring to Shadowrun and Warhawk comes with a 40$ headset.

[QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="threegodhalo"]Damn, the rules state to not quote more than 4!

And Again, Sony messed up big time and is selling crap.

2-3 million in more than half a year now. The 360 was close to 10 million in a year's time.
azad_champ

DID you put in the fact that the 360 was the ONLY next-gen system around at the time and having the newest system was the thing. Its kind of like saying when madden was the only football game around. Why you think it sold so well? because consumers had no other choice at the time.

An Xbot in action! Wii is doing great because of the price. It's only a matter of time before PS3 and 360 drops prices to mainstream level and sales start to surge. Oh Wait! The 360 is already a very cheap console and people are still not embrasing it. Since when is MGS4 a failure. Don't be such a dumb-ass.

Lost Planet,Saints Row,Dead Rising were hyped AAA but all flopped. Don't try to messiah the 360. Warhawk hasn't failed by the way and it's funny how you ignored my post.

No, i'm sure that those titles were hyped AAA by SW. Has 360 better online because it charges 60$/year and and that a online-only game costs 60$? And stop trying to use that stupid statements in you sig. You're 100% biased and a puppet to MS.

I was referring to Shadowrun and Warhawk comes with a 40$ headset.

it's funny you say it's a bargain because of a $40 headset...

yet xbox live comes with one too and somehow a "ripoff"...

btw; ONLY the br verson of warhawk comes with a headset...;)

[QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="threegodhalo"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

tango90101

it's funny you say it's a bargain because of a $40 headset...

yet xbox live comes with one too and somehow a "ripoff"...

btw; ONLY the br verson of warhawk comes with a headset...;)

The headset comes with the 360, not Live. And you have to pay for Live Gold yearly. During the lifetime of 360 wich will be around 5 years considering Xbox, The Live Gold 350$. Add that to the original Xbox360 cost and you have a console more expensive than PS3.

And the Downloadable version of Warhawk wich is the full game is only 40$ not 60$

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]

I just thought this was funny how cows always called Japan Sony country. Seems not everyone in Japan feels the same.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/paper-stuff/new-japanese-book-asks-why-ps3-failed-297947.php

azad_champ

Not all books needs to be true.Calling a console failure after 8 month is short-sided and dumb. Besides, few killer-apps have been released to PS3 in Japan. I'm not surpiresed that the sales are slow there

failed thus far.

The Japanese also wrote 'The Art of War'. Didn't give em much help in WW2........Stumpt25

that was Chinese not Japanese. :roll:

PS3 has been out 11 months not 8. It came out in Nov of last year. So been out almost a full year now.Eltroz

Haha, and Cows say that FlopStation 3 is doing well in Japan. Oh well, at least Microsoft and Nintendo are doing okay. Halo 3.

threegodhalo

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

I just thought this was funny how cows always called Japan Sony country. Seems not everyone in Japan feels the same.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/paper-stuff/new-japanese-book-asks-why-ps3-failed-297947.php

tango90101

Not all books needs to be true.Calling a console failure after 8 month is short-sided and dumb. Besides, few killer-apps have been released to PS3 in Japan. I'm not surpiresed that the sales are slow there

moving from "100 million" to 4 million is a pretty good indicator of failure to anyone w/ any fanboy sense.

it's odd, that only one year ago cows were swearing japan was sony's territory and will singlehandidly move sony back to #1...

Fixed

keep the dream alive... i'm sure the ps3 will make up their lost 92 million customers any day now...:lol:

Keep your dream alive, im sure Halo 3 will save M$..just like halo 1 and halo 2 did.on the xbox..oh and :lol:

I dont understand why YOU and the rest of you fanboys have to do this to each other. nobody EVER makes sense here. What are you trying to prove? if we're talking about sales then why dont we look at the 360. how many systems have been sold from launch till now? 11 million? thats an estimate, dont quote me on that. its been TWO+ years and only an estimated 11 million systems have been sold. and thats including your "must" have games such as Geow,Bioshock etc. 6 million ps3's sold and no "MUST" have games out yet is pretty damn good if you ask me. and yes ive admitted that AND im 100% cow

[QUOTE="Stumpt25"]The Japanese also wrote 'The Art of War'. Didn't give em much help in WW2........Ontain

that was Chinese not Japanese. :roll:

:lol: What has "The Art of War" and WW2 got to do with "New Japanese book asks why the PS3 "failed""?!

[QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="Stumpt25"]The Japanese also wrote 'The Art of War'. Didn't give em much help in WW2........Jeimseu

that was Chinese not Japanese. :roll:

:lol: What has "The Art of War" and WW2 got to do with "New Japanese book asks why the PS3 "failed""?!

i think he was attempting to say that books don't always mean much. though he had no cute of any books written by the japanese and used a Chinese book instead. heck even if it was a Japanese book he point would be terrible since The Art of War is still read in military schools.

just a little premature, perhaps...?chutup

No i think its pretty dead on. Only ridiculous blindfanboys can't see the Ps3 is one of the biggest flops of all time.

Lemmings, WHY do you self-own so much? If a Japanese book is asking why PS3 "failed" then what is 360 doing in Japan?

Can you say Self-Destruct

So...360 sold say 10.5million or so in 2 years and PS3 has sold 5million in 8 months...

Call that "failing" ? Lets try and THINK fanboys

just a little premature, perhaps...?chutup

Right...just wait until the FF7 remake then all the Japanese will be like "HOLY ****!!!!!111!!! WHAT??!!!1!! MUST BUY NOW!!11!!!! because we all know they love their Final Fantasy :D

So...360 sold say 10.5million or so in 2 years and PS3 has sold 5million in 8 months...

Call that "failing" ? Lets try and THINK fanboys

Armored_cell

5 Million already?? Interesting.....

[QUOTE="Armored_cell"]

So...360 sold say 10.5million or so in 2 years and PS3 has sold 5million in 8 months...

Call that "failing" ? Lets try and THINK fanboys

dream431ca

5 Million already?? Interesting.....

No GeOW's or Biohsock's

[QUOTE="dream431ca"][QUOTE="Armored_cell"]

So...360 sold say 10.5million or so in 2 years and PS3 has sold 5million in 8 months...

Call that "failing" ? Lets try and THINK fanboys

Armored_cell

5 Million already?? Interesting.....

No GeOW's or Biohsock's

you do realize your estimates are null and void as sony has not claimed to have sold that much....;)

keep the dream alive tho...

Lemmings, WHY do you self-own so much? If a Japanese book is asking why PS3 "failed" then what is 360 doing in Japan?

Can you say Self-Destruct

Armored_cell

ms never claimed that japan would take them to #1 worldwide like sony and the cows did...;)

ms knows they will never be #1 in japan...then again, they don't have to be...