New JRPG for PS3: Tears to Tiara

People (especially Lemmings) are gonna argue with you about this game being a JRPG. Because it has some strategy element to it, they claim it's not a JRPG but a SRPG, even if it's made in Japan, it's not a JRPG. LOL

Looks ok, but Valkyria Chronicles seems better than this RPG by a mile.

Looks alright but is it really a JRPG?fenwickhotmail

See? I told you :P

Looks alright but is it really a JRPG?fenwickhotmail

[QUOTE="fenwickhotmail"]Looks alright but is it really a JRPG?dream431ca

See? I told you :P

New? Huh? I've known about this game for ages. Odd.Floppy_Jim

People (especially Lemmings) are gonna argue with you about this game being a JRPG. Because it has some strategy element to it, they claim it's not a JRPG but a SRPG, even if it's made in Japan, it's not a JRPG. LOL

Looks ok, but Valkyria Chronicles seems better than this RPG by a mile.

dream431ca

yeah when this game flops people (cows), will say its not an JRPG .

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[QUOTE="fenwickhotmail"]Looks alright but is it really a JRPG?fenwickhotmail

See? I told you :P

That's fine. I just don't understand why people can't understand that, if an RPG is made in Japan, it's a JRPG. JRPG is a generic term being all RPGs made in Japan, whether, turn based, strategy or non turn based.

Um, it's an SRPG.xsubtownerx

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People (especially Lemmings) are gonna argue with you about this game being a JRPG. Because it has some strategy element to it, they claim it's not a JRPG but a SRPG, even if it's made in Japan, it's not a JRPG. LOL

Looks ok, but Valkyria Chronicles seems better than this RPG by a mile.

oTHE_FLOPo

yeah when this game flops people (cows), will say its not an JRPG .

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Um, it's an SRPG.nervmeister

Um, it's an SRPG.. I guess you can call the PS3 the king of SRPGs and the 360 the king of JRPGs. Doesn't look that great tho. Disgaea 3 is the way to go, imo.xsubtownerx

JRPG is generic, meaning made in Japan, not the type of RPG. This game is made in Japan, therefore it's a JRPG but it's a strategy RPG so it would be called a strategy JRPG.

[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Um, it's an SRPG.xsubtownerx

Is Disagea made in Japan?

[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Um, it's an SRPG.xsubtownerx

People (especially Lemmings) are gonna argue with you about this game being a JRPG. Because it has some strategy element to it, they claim it's not a JRPG but a SRPG, even if it's made in Japan, it's not a JRPG. LOL

Looks ok, but Valkyria Chronicles seems better than this RPG by a mile.

dream431ca

Um no that is the exuse being used by cows lately in response that 360 JRPGs sell better then PS3 JRPGS in Japan. Cow defense is that they are SRPGS and not your traditional JRPGS hence why they don't sell as good.

This is in reference to games such as Disgaea 3 and Valkyria Chronicles not beating out 360 JRPGs in sales even though they are games of quality.

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]Yes, that and a JRPG in general.nervmeister

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Um, it's an SRPG.. I guess you can call the PS3 the king of SRPGs and the 360 the king of JRPGs. Doesn't look that great tho. Disgaea 3 is the way to go, imo.dream431ca

JRPG is generic, meaning made in Japan, not the type of RPG. This game is made in Japan, therefore it's a JRPG but it's a strategy RPG so it would be called a strategy JRPG.

You are a good man dream431ca. Any RPG that comes out of Japan Strategy, online, turned based whatever is a JRPG. JRPG just means Japanese RPG. Japanese can make Strategy RPGS as well.  

[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"] So Disgaea is a JRPG now? :lol:Ragnarok1051

[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"] So Disgaea is a JRPG now? :lol:Ragnarok1051

Yes, difference in game mechanics. Here is what I mean:

RPG A = Turn based free roaming RPG made in Japan

RPG B = Stratgey RPG, using only a map to move around a some free roaming areas but the main focus is on the strategy combat also made in Japan.

To tell me that RPG B (the strategy RPG) even though it is made in Japan, is not a JRPG, is simply ridiculous. 

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]Yes, that and a JRPG in general.nervmeister

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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Um, it's an SRPG.. I guess you can call the PS3 the king of SRPGs and the 360 the king of JRPGs. Doesn't look that great tho. Disgaea 3 is the way to go, imo.Blackbond

JRPG is generic, meaning made in Japan, not the type of RPG. This game is made in Japan, therefore it's a JRPG but it's a strategy RPG so it would be called a strategy JRPG.

You are a good man dream431ca. Any RPG that comes out of Japan Strategy, online, turned based whatever is a JRPG. JRPG just means Japanese RPG. Japanese can make Strategy RPGS as well.  

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]It's always been a JRPG. The term "SRPG" is and will always be a sub-category.nervmeister

[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] There's always been a difference between two.Ragnarok1051

Thats because we live in the west. Over in Japan I'm sure they don't label their games Japanese Rpgs they probably just call them RPGs or SRPGS as well. The only thing the W or J means is the origin of its creation. In the ned they are all just RPGS. 

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]What does the "J" in JRPG stand for, Ragnarok?Blackbond

Thats because we live in the west. Over in Japan I'm sure they don't label their games Japanese Rpgs they probably just call them RPGs or SRPGS as well. The only thing the W or J means is the origin of its creation. In the ned they are all just RPGS. 

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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] Yeah but if a western company makes one we now have to call it a WSRPG? A SRPG is just that a SRPG.Ragnarok1051

Thats because we live in the west. Over in Japan I'm sure they don't label their games Japanese Rpgs they probably just call them RPGs or SRPGS as well. The only thing the W or J means is the origin of its creation. In the ned they are all just RPGS. 

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

People (especially Lemmings) are gonna argue with you about this game being a JRPG. Because it has some strategy element to it, they claim it's not a JRPG but a SRPG, even if it's made in Japan, it's not a JRPG. LOL

Looks ok, but Valkyria Chronicles seems better than this RPG by a mile.

Blackbond

Um no that is the exuse being used by cows lately in response that 360 JRPGs sell better then PS3 JRPGS in Japan. Cow defense is that they are SRPGS and not your traditional JRPGS hence why they don't sell as good.

This is in reference to games such as Disgaea 3 and Valkyria Chronicles not beating out 360 JRPGs in sales even though they are games of quality.

Anyways is this game even gonna see a U.S release? This is an adult rated game. Meaning um well yeah Hentai or whatever you want to call it. This is a remake of the 2005 PC release. I doubt this game comes to America or even outside of Japan. No way an orgoe/hentai game is coming outside Japan unless it goes through some serious changes.

I really don't think we should list SRPGs made in Japan as JRPGs. To me a WSRPG like Silent Storm has more in common with JSRPGs than a JRPG like Final Fantasy and Tales of with a WRPG like Fallout or Fable. And SRPGs are a very small fanbase.

That being said this game will never come out here because it is an adult rated game, even if it isn't it is a SRPG, and Japan has a ton of them that doesn't come out here. I'm surprised Atlus brought Operation Darkness, Spectral Force 3 and Zoids Assault here (really surprised on Zoids Assault, how many people know what they are besides me *Hugs his Command Wolf and Shild Liger modles*).

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Thats because we live in the west. Over in Japan I'm sure they don't label their games Japanese Rpgs they probably just call them RPGs or SRPGS as well. The only thing the W or J means is the origin of its creation. In the ned they are all just RPGS.

dream431ca

Lemmings calll SJRPGS JRPGs as they like to compare the sales of the JRPGS they have on 360 to that of the JRPGS the PS3 has which is an arguement in their favor.

The cows are saying that SRPGS are not JRPGS so when the lemmings say are JRPGS sell better then yours they can claim that games like Disgaea 3 and Valkryia Chronciles are not JRPGS.

Fact of the matter is though that any RPG made in Japan is a JRPG. if its a Strategy game then its a Japanese Strategy game. Calling an RPG Japanese in essense the J isn't a matter of genre distinction only whether the game is of Western or Japanese origin.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] Still doesn't seem right. I haven't heard a SRPG called a JRPG up until now. Just seems like something the cows are starting to make up for their lack of JRPGs.Blackbond

Lemmings calll SJRPGS JRPGs as they like to compare the sales of the JRPGS they have on 360 to that of the JRPGS the PS3 has which is an arguement in their favor.

The cows are saying that SRPGS are not JRPGS so when the lemmings say are JRPGS sell better then yours they can claim that games like Disgaea 3 and Valkryia Chronciles are not JRPGS.

Fact of the matter is though that any RPG made in Japan is a JRPG. if its a Strategy game then its a Japanese Strategy game. Calling an RPG Japanese in essense the J isn't a matter of genre distinction only whether the game is of Western or Japanese origin.

That's exactly my point. Some people just don't get it, or don't want to get it.

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] Still doesn't seem right. I haven't heard a SRPG called a JRPG up until now. Just seems like something the cows are starting to make up for their lack of JRPGs.DragonFlyJ

Wow -renegade how many ALT accounts do you have first it was jakari now this?:roll:

[QUOTE="DragonFlyJ"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] Still doesn't seem right. I haven't heard a SRPG called a JRPG up until now. Just seems like something the cows are starting to make up for their lack of JRPGs.oTHE_FLOPo

Wow -renegade how many ALT accounts do you have first it was jakari now this?:roll:

And what does that have to do with said above post? 

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[QUOTE="DragonFlyJ"] Final Fantasy Tactics, Battle Orge, and Diseaga has always been consider Jrpgs. J means Japanese in case you didn't know...Blackbond

Wow -renegade how many ALT accounts do you have first it was jakari now this?:roll:

And what does that have to do with said above post? 

nothing..he's just using the "change subject" skill. :lol:

Um, it's an SRPG.. I guess you can call the PS3 the king of SRPGs and the 360 the king of JRPGs. Doesn't look that great tho. Disgaea 3 is the way to go, imo.xsubtownerx

JRPG is generic, meaning made in Japan, not the type of RPG. This game is made in Japan, therefore it's a JRPG but it's a strategy RPG so it would be called a strategy JRPG.

You are a good man dream431ca. Any RPG that comes out of Japan Strategy, online, turned based whatever is a JRPG. JRPG just means Japanese RPG. Japanese can make Strategy RPGS as well.  

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

 

JRPG is generic, meaning made in Japan, not the type of RPG. This game is made in Japan, therefore it's a JRPG but it's a strategy RPG so it would be called a strategy JRPG.

xsubtownerx

You are a good man dream431ca. Any RPG that comes out of Japan Strategy, online, turned based whatever is a JRPG. JRPG just means Japanese RPG. Japanese can make Strategy RPGS as well.

You realize that when games get reviewed at GS they don't say JRPG or WRPG. Its just RPG right. The JRPG and WRPG pretty much comes from the fans not the industry. The industry doesn't see the place of origin as a genre. In reality these games are just Role Playing games and then they go into the subdivions there such as strategy RPG, MMORPG or whatever. Can you really define place of creation as a genre? Maybe you can. After hearing all sides I really don't even know anymore myself to be honest.