New PS3 pricing model might not be as dumb as people think...

The PS3 should have been $200 like last year. But with that being said I understand Sony's logic behind their new sku.

Keeping the price of the PS3 near the WiiU Sonys intention is to highlight the fact that the WiiU is a current gen console. And make no mistake the WiiU graphically speaking is indeed a current gen console. Look at previous gens graphical jumps:

NES

to SNES

PS2

to PS3

See, the WiiU might be a hot seller this holiday but it won't go much further than that. A few tech geeks might note that the WiiU has more ram than the PS3 or whatever but when the average gamer brings home that WiiU and plays that year old port of Mass effect 3 or Arkham city that runs in the same resolution and looks pretty much the same as it did on PS3 and 360 last year they're gonna start to wonder what they just spent $350 on. It will be years before the WiiU has a game that will be graphically as impressive as Killzone 3 or Uncharted 3 and more likely than not will never have a game which truly eclipses them visually.

I agree with those who belive that Sony is not in any position to release a PS4. the question is why should they? The Genesis was 3 years older than the SNES, could display 1/5 the ammount of colors on screen had a vastly inferior sound processor but at the end of the day Genesis competed very well with the SNES because truth be told they were both 16 bit systems. They both had the Street Fighters, the NBA Jams, the Maddens. The Xbox and Gamecube were more powerful than PS2 but again it didn't matter they were not a "gen" ahead and most of the big name games wound up on all 3 systems anyway.

Keeping PS3's price in line with the WiiU Sony will indeed be concede the 2012 holiday season but will set the up the PS3 to compete with the the WiiU for years to come. Sony is not worried about letting the WiiU have a headstart on the PS4. From their Perspective, and the perspective they want to convey is that it's not the WiiU that has a headstart on the PS4, it's the PS3 that has a 60 million headstart on the WiiU. That the Wii U and the PS3 are in fact of the same generation. As far as hardware goes that's more or less the truth.

The PS3 should have been $200 like last year. But with that being said I understand Sony's logic behind their new sku.

Keeping the price of the PS3 near the WiiU Sonys intention is to highlight the fact that the WiiU is a current gen console. And make no mistake the WiiU graphically speaking is indeed a current gen console. Look at previous gens graphical jumps:

NES

to SNES

PS2

to PS3

See, the WiiU might be a hot seller this holiday but it won't go much further than that. A few tech geeks might note that the WiiU has more ram than the PS3 or whatever but when the average gamer brings home that WiiU and plays that year old port of Mass effect 3 or Arkham city that runs in the same resolution and looks pretty much the same as it did on PS3 and 360 last year they're gonna start to wonder what they just spent $350 on. It will be years before the WiiU has a game that will be graphically as impressive as Killzone 3 or Uncharted 3 and more likely than not will never have a game which truly eclipses them visually.

I agree with those who belive that Sony is not in any position to release a PS4. the question is why should they? The Genesis was 3 years older than the SNES, could display 1/5 the ammount of colors on screen had a vastly inferior sound processor but at the end of the day Genesis competed very well with the SNES because truth be told they were both 16 bit systems. They both had the Street Fighters, the NBA Jams, the Maddens. The Xbox and Gamecube were more powerful than PS2 but again it didn't matter they were not a "gen" ahead and most of the big name games wound up on all 3 systems anyway.

Keeping PS3's price in line with the WiiU Sony will indeed be concede the 2012 holiday season but will set the up the PS3 to compete with the the WiiU for years to come. Sony is not worried about letting the WiiU have a headstart on the PS4. From their Perspective, and the perspective they want to convey is that it's not the WiiU that has a headstart on the PS4, it's the PS3 that has a 60 million headstart on the WiiU. That the Wii U and the PS3 are in fact of the same generation. As far as hardware goes that's more or less the truth.

another brilliant decision in a long string of brilliant decisions this gen!

amiright herd?

those guys just can't stop wit dat win.

an yous is all jelly!

Consumers are gonna walk right past the ps3 this holiday season and go right to the WiiU. The ps3 is garbage and everyone knows it. If I can sell my ps3, that would be awesome. But in case I can't unload that smelly turd, I think I will go with my backup plan, peeing on it and throwing it in a sewer. todd2r_Partdeux

Consumers are gonna walk right past the ps3 this holiday season and go right to the WiiU. The ps3 is garbage and everyone knows it. If I can sell my ps3, that would be awesome. But in case I can't unload that smelly turd, I think I will go with my backup plan, peeing on it and throwing it in a sewer. todd2r_Partdeux

I think it's a good thing, the PS3 is still being supported and has plenty of life left, so it still has value. Where as the Wii is done and Nintendo is launching the Wii U, the 360 is pretty much done too, the 720 will be revealed next E3 and launched in holiday 2013.

This is why there are NO games planned for 2013 on 360 holiday, not even multiplats. This is because MS is done with it and they won't be supporting it, 360 only owners better save up some money because they have no choice but to buy the next Xbox when it comes out, or get a PS3 or Wii U.

But I am not an analyst so I don't know what's best for Sony, nor do I really care. 360 fanboys care though because they don't want PS3 to be successful, they already lost in every category, sales is all they got.

I think Sony knows what they are doing, they are a huge corporation with very well paid experts.

Once again hardware specs DO NOT DETERMINE a consoles gen. Seriously cows need to love it, learn it, live itkingtito

A console that runs 2d mario sidescrollers in 720p is not next gen.

[QUOTE="kingtito"]Once again hardware specs DO NOT DETERMINE a consoles gen. Seriously cows need to love it, learn it, live itPray_to_me

A console that runs 2d mario sidescrollers in 720p is not next gen.

Next gen we will not see massive graphics leaps like we have in the past. Graphics are getting to the point where only active gamers will be able to really notice the difference/care. So its not a smart business decision to launch a system for 500$ just for power because that isn't what drives sales anymore. All next gen systems will be moderately more powerful, but with some unique gimmick to make it seem cool and unique to add value to consumers.

I agree. I bought a $60,000 Ford Focus instead of a $60,000 Mercedes Benz E class. It is genius marketing by Sony.

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[QUOTE="kingtito"]Once again hardware specs DO NOT DETERMINE a consoles gen. Seriously cows need to love it, learn it, live itbbkkristian

A console that runs 2d mario sidescrollers in 720p is not next gen.

And your criteria would be?

I will laugh hard at you TC when the specs are leaked for the WiiU.The console's feels more like a next gen console then current gen hardware because it can most likely do things current gen hardware can't do that easily or an't at all.

Next gen we will not see massive graphics leaps like we have in the past. Graphics are getting to the point where only active gamers will be able to really notice the difference/care. So its not a smart business decision to launch a system for 500$ just for power because that isn't what drives sales anymore. All next gen systems will be moderately more powerful, but with some unique gimmick to make it seem cool and unique to add value to consumers.

VendettaRed07

The WiiU doesn't represent a graphical leap at all. A graphical improvent of any measure would invalidate the argument.

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

Next gen we will not see massive graphics leaps like we have in the past. Graphics are getting to the point where only active gamers will be able to really notice the difference/care. So its not a smart business decision to launch a system for 500$ just for power because that isn't what drives sales anymore. All next gen systems will be moderately more powerful, but with some unique gimmick to make it seem cool and unique to add value to consumers.

Pray_to_me

The WiiU doesn't represent a graphical leap at all. A graphical improvent of any measure would invalidate the argument.

Most of the rumors point to the WiiU being able to output subHD games or barely HD games at 1080P most likely.Can the 360 or PS3 do that on big games.Nope.

[QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

Next gen we will not see massive graphics leaps like we have in the past. Graphics are getting to the point where only active gamers will be able to really notice the difference/care. So its not a smart business decision to launch a system for 500$ just for power because that isn't what drives sales anymore. All next gen systems will be moderately more powerful, but with some unique gimmick to make it seem cool and unique to add value to consumers.

super600

The WiiU doesn't represent a graphical leap at all. A graphical improvent of any measure would invalidate the argument.

Most of the rumors point to the WiiU being able to output subHD games or barely HD games at 1080P most likely.Can the 360 or PS3 do that on big games.Nope.

Upscaled not native and yes PS3 and 360 can upscale.

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[QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

The WiiU doesn't represent a graphical leap at all. A graphical improvent of any measure would invalidate the argument.

Pray_to_me

Most of the rumors point to the WiiU being able to output subHD games or barely HD games at 1080P most likely.Can the 360 or PS3 do that on big games.Nope.

Upscaled not native and yes PS3 and 360 can upscale.

There's a good chance they may not be upscaled.Even if some of the WiiU games don't display at 1080P you may see improvements in areas like lightning,textures,shadows,particle effects and more depending on how long devs take to optimize their gams for the relatively new hardware design.

I think it's a good thing, the PS3 is still being supported and has plenty of life left, so it still has value. Where as the Wii is done and Nintendo is launching the Wii U, the 360 is pretty much done too, the 720 will be revealed next E3 and launched in holiday 2013.

This is why there are NO games planned for 2013 on 360 holiday, not even multiplats. This is because MS is done with it and they won't be supporting it, 360 only owners better save up some money because they have no choice but to buy the next Xbox when it comes out, or get a PS3 or Wii U.

But I am not an analyst so I don't know what's best for Sony, nor do I really care. 360 fanboys care though because they don't want PS3 to be successful, they already lost in every category, sales is all they got.

I think Sony knows what they are doing, they are a huge corporation with very well paid experts.

ShadowMoses900

how in the world are there no games planned for 360 in 2013???? did u just wake up? Gears Judment is just one of them... there are others... where have u been?

That makes zero sense. The best thing to do, would be to undercut whilst maintaining a profit. The WiiU is your competition... Why the f*ck would Sony want to highlight that the WiiU is a "current-gen" console (current-gen in quotations, because you're dumb).

That makes zero sense. The best thing to do, would be to undercut whilst maintaining a profit. The WiiU is your competition... Why the f*ck would Sony want to highlight that the WiiU is a "current-gen" console (current-gen in quotations, because you're dumb).

lundy86_4

No, it's pretty dumb no matter how you spin it.charizard1605

They ought a just throw the hail marry and start including the Vita with the ps3 for $350.Heirren

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

Next gen we will not see massive graphics leaps like we have in the past. Graphics are getting to the point where only active gamers will be able to really notice the difference/care. So its not a smart business decision to launch a system for 500$ just for power because that isn't what drives sales anymore. All next gen systems will be moderately more powerful, but with some unique gimmick to make it seem cool and unique to add value to consumers.

Pray_to_me

The WiiU doesn't represent a graphical leap at all. A graphical improvent of any measure would invalidate the argument.

I think it's a good thing, the PS3 is still being supported and has plenty of life left, so it still has value. Where as the Wii is done and Nintendo is launching the Wii U, the 360 is pretty much done too, the 720 will be revealed next E3 and launched in holiday 2013.

This is why there are NO games planned for 2013 on 360 holiday, not even multiplats. This is because MS is done with it and they won't be supporting it, 360 only owners better save up some money because they have no choice but to buy the next Xbox when it comes out, or get a PS3 or Wii U.

But I am not an analyst so I don't know what's best for Sony, nor do I really care. 360 fanboys care though because they don't want PS3 to be successful, they already lost in every category, sales is all they got.

I think Sony knows what they are doing, they are a huge corporation with very well paid experts.

ShadowMoses900

I was going to get a PS3 at the end of the year to play some exclusives I've been missing out on but it doesn't seem like it will happen. Biggest question from me is: why is a 12 GB console $250 ++? I rather get a vita which was my plan B

They have to raise the price cause its such a great value. Do you expect them to just give PS3s away for free? Domination Continuation :cool:

They have to raise the price cause its such a great value. Do you expect them to just give PS3s away for free? Domination Continuation :cool:

DarthClark

Was expecting something more along the lines of "You are jelly because your folks can't afford to buy you one :P"

Then new sku price would not be "dumb" if they lowered the price of the current PS3 slims. Why charge the same price for two skus when one has a much larger HDD? :| This is a last minute ploy for Sony to secure profits on the PS3 before the launch of the PS4. And quite honestly... only those who can't seem to take Sony's **** out of their mouths (and wipe their chins) can't see that.

Then new sku price would not be "dumb" if they lowered the price of the current PS3 slims. Why charge the same price for two skus when one has a much larger HDD? :| This is a last minute ploy for Sony to secure profits on the PS3 before the launch of the PS4. And quite honestly... only those who can't seem to take Sony's **** out of their mouths (and wipe their chins) can't see that.

OhSnapitz

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

Then new sku price would not be "dumb" if they lowered the price of the current PS3 slims. Why charge the same price for two skus when one has a much larger HDD? :| This is a last minute ploy for Sony to secure profits on the PS3 before the launch of the PS4. And quite honestly... only those who can't seem to take Sony's **** out of their mouths (and wipe their chins) can't see that.

tormentos

Dude..

The 360 250 gig should be $200 & the 4 gig should be $150 by November of this year. The Wii was overpriced when it launched.

I don't defend ANY of these companies when it comes to SKU pricing.. They're All greedy bastards..

Only in SW would you have people trying to make you believe that if you lower the quality of a product and then raise the price, it's a good thing....

It's Sony and the majority of their decisions really make no sense. Real reason, they can't afford to sell it for less without making investors mad, nice try on spinning it though Sony. Wii U will outsell the PS3 this holiday, 360 will outsell the PS3 this holiday just like every other year. Sony releasing what the yearly PS3 model? What are they on, model 20 or something?

Can anyone name all the PS3 models they have had?

I think it's a good thing, the PS3 is still being supported and has plenty of life left, so it still has value. Where as the Wii is done and Nintendo is launching the Wii U, the 360 is pretty much done too, the 720 will be revealed next E3 and launched in holiday 2013.

This is why there are NO games planned for 2013 on 360 holiday, not even multiplats. This is because MS is done with it and they won't be supporting it, 360 only owners better save up some money because they have no choice but to buy the next Xbox when it comes out, or get a PS3 or Wii U.

But I am not an analyst so I don't know what's best for Sony, nor do I really care. 360 fanboys care though because they don't want PS3 to be successful, they already lost in every category, sales is all they got.

I think Sony knows what they are doing, they are a huge corporation with very well paid experts.

ShadowMoses900

MS has never really announced games a year out like Sony does. They tend to be more secrative, then announce it a few months before launch. Sony announces games years in advance. (The Last Guardian)