New Square-Enix RGP for both PS3 and 360?!

Do you think the news about SE making "The Remnants" for both the PS3 and 360 is a n indication that FFXIII is coming to the 360 as well? It seems like the 360 is starting to get some SE luv.

And why would they do this?

How many psp exclusive titles did they announce even though the DS is dominating it?  They already announced FFXIII exclusive for the ps3, and it will stay that way.  Announcing a NEW game as multiplatform isn't much of a surprise at all.  It's not like the game was exclusive and then suddenly went multiplat out of nowhere.

And why would they do this?

How many psp exclusive titles did they announce even though the DS is dominating it?  They already announced FFXIII exclusive for the ps3, and it will stay that way.  Announcing a NEW game as multiplatform isn't much of a surprise at all.  It's not like the game was exclusive and then suddenly went multiplat out of nowhere.

makingmusic476

No, they didnt announce FFXIII as "exclusive" for the PS3 unless I missed a press release in the last 2 weeks. Last word was they were considering a multi-plat release.

 NEWS = http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/finalfantasy13/news.html?sid=6167864

Also, remember this:

FFXIII is being developed using the White Engine (actually, they are being developed simultaneously).  The White Engine is made from the gorund up for the ps3.

The Last Remnant, however, is being developed using the UNreal Engine 3.0, because it is multiplat.

They wouldn't suddenly completey restart development of FFXIII using another engine just to make it multiplat.  It would make any monetary gains from sales on the 360 null and void.

It was like this before the PS1 took the crown from the N64, the N64 was succesfull on name alone but the PS1 was such a better console with it's CD capacity games. When devs start anouncing projects on platforms they normally don't support, it's a sign, that the devs are nervous about making money on single platform exclusives. Just how many XBOX games did square make, last gen??

Do you think the news about SE making "The Remnants" for both the PS3 and 360 is a n indication that FFXIII is coming to the 360 as well? It seems like the 360 is starting to get some SE luv.

kindredmachine

idk about FFXIII but I do think they are testing the 360 to see what happens. 

So, some ppl actually think that one game for 360 (and it's also on PS3) from Square means they turning the support all to 360 too, huh.tegovoltio

Doesn;t it mean just that though? In the last gen you NEVER saw an SE RPG on a M$ system... and now we do..

[QUOTE="makingmusic476"]

And why would they do this?

How many psp exclusive titles did they announce even though the DS is dominating it?  They already announced FFXIII exclusive for the ps3, and it will stay that way.  Announcing a NEW game as multiplatform isn't much of a surprise at all.  It's not like the game was exclusive and then suddenly went multiplat out of nowhere.

kindredmachine

No, they didnt announce FFXIII as "exclusive" for the PS3 unless I missed a press release in the last 2 weeks. Last word was they were considering a multi-plat release.

 NEWS = http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/finalfantasy13/news.html?sid=6167864

But didnt SE say that the White Engine actually wasn't build for the PS3. It built as a dynamic engine to enable them the option to release FFXIII on the PC or 360 which is why the exclusivity for the PS3 is even under discussion? I've been trying to keep up on all of the SE news and believe this to be correct. But I could be wrong I guess.kindredmachine

[QUOTE="tegovoltio"]So, some ppl actually think that one game for 360 (and it's also on PS3) from Square means they turning the support all to 360 too, huh.kindredmachine

Doesn;t it mean just that though? In the last gen you NEVER saw an SE RPG on a M$ system... and now we do..

Actually, if I can add something. Technically there are already 3 Square-Enix games for the 360... The Remnanats, FFXI and Project Sipheed. Personally, I think FFXIII coming to the 360 is a 50/50 chance. They're already considering it. I find it odd that SE hasn't actually announced exclusivity for the PS3 yet... hmm...

[QUOTE="tegovoltio"]So, some ppl actually think that one game for 360 (and it's also on PS3) from Square means they turning the support all to 360 too, huh.kindredmachine

Doesn;t it mean just that though? In the last gen you NEVER saw an SE RPG on a M$ system... and now we do..

[QUOTE="kindredmachine"]

[QUOTE="tegovoltio"]So, some ppl actually think that one game for 360 (and it's also on PS3) from Square means they turning the support all to 360 too, huh.kindredmachine

Doesn;t it mean just that though? In the last gen you NEVER saw an SE RPG on a M$ system... and now we do..

Actually, if I can add something. Technically there are already 3 Square-Enix games for the 360... The Remnanats, FFXI and Project Sipheed. Personally, I think FFXIII coming to the 360 is a 50/50 chance. They're already considering it. I find it odd that SE hasn't actually announced exclusivity for the PS3 yet... hmm...

How many ps2 games were announced specifically as "exlusive"?  Most were just annouced for the ps2, and nothing else.

You people are reading far too much into nothing.

Also, remember this:

FFXIII is being developed using the White Engine (actually, they are being developed simultaneously).  The White Engine is made from the gorund up for the ps3.

The Last Remnant, however, is being developed using the UNreal Engine 3.0, because it is multiplat.

They wouldn't suddenly completey restart development of FFXIII using another engine just to make it multiplat.  It would make any monetary gains from sales on the 360 null and void.

makingmusic476

[QUOTE="makingmusic476"]

Also, remember this:

FFXIII is being developed using the White Engine (actually, they are being developed simultaneously).  The White Engine is made from the gorund up for the ps3.

The Last Remnant, however, is being developed using the UNreal Engine 3.0, because it is multiplat.

They wouldn't suddenly completey restart development of FFXIII using another engine just to make it multiplat.  It would make any monetary gains from sales on the 360 null and void.

Ultimas_Blade

Either way, it is designed around the ps3.  I don't think they are going to spend a bunch of money to completey rework the engine just to get the game to run on the 360.

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="makingmusic476"]

Also, remember this:

FFXIII is being developed using the White Engine (actually, they are being developed simultaneously).  The White Engine is made from the gorund up for the ps3.

The Last Remnant, however, is being developed using the UNreal Engine 3.0, because it is multiplat.

They wouldn't suddenly completey restart development of FFXIII using another engine just to make it multiplat.  It would make any monetary gains from sales on the 360 null and void.

makingmusic476

Either way, it is designed around the ps3.  I don't think they are going to spend a bunch of money to completey rework the engine just to get the game to run on the 360.

... they will if it means a few million extra sales :-)kindredmachine

I'm not sure which way they'd end up ahead, but i'm leaning more towards exclusivity, seeing as Sony would most likely cough up a little money if they mentioned anything about multiplat.

[QUOTE="makingmusic476"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="makingmusic476"]

Also, remember this:

FFXIII is being developed using the White Engine (actually, they are being developed simultaneously).  The White Engine is made from the gorund up for the ps3.

The Last Remnant, however, is being developed using the UNreal Engine 3.0, because it is multiplat.

They wouldn't suddenly completey restart development of FFXIII using another engine just to make it multiplat.  It would make any monetary gains from sales on the 360 null and void.

Ultimas_Blade

Either way, it is designed around the ps3.  I don't think they are going to spend a bunch of money to completey rework the engine just to get the game to run on the 360.

Chris-Hansen ... I would appreciate it if you didnlt take my words out of context. I never stated that FFXIII was coming ot the 360, I asked what you believed the chances are. Re-read the posts.kindredmachine

All that effort, time, and money to port the game to a console that is dead in Japan?  Not too mention most of the jrpg types in the states and elsewhere most likely have not gone with a 360.

ROTFL..

You're absolutely right. "All that effort, time, and money to port the game to a console that is dead in Japan" you say? You did know that Japan is only 20% of the worldwide market right?

But you make a good point, if it's dead in Japan then what's the point? It's no wonder that games made by Japanese developers like Ace Combat 6, Virtua Fighter 5, DMC4 and SE's own "The Remnants" aren't coming to the 360.... Oh wait..

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="makingmusic476"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="makingmusic476"]

Also, remember this:

FFXIII is being developed using the White Engine (actually, they are being developed simultaneously).  The White Engine is made from the gorund up for the ps3.

The Last Remnant, however, is being developed using the UNreal Engine 3.0, because it is multiplat.

They wouldn't suddenly completey restart development of FFXIII using another engine just to make it multiplat.  It would make any monetary gains from sales on the 360 null and void.

makingmusic476

Either way, it is designed around the ps3.  I don't think they are going to spend a bunch of money to completey rework the engine just to get the game to run on the 360.

[QUOTE="makingmusic476"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="makingmusic476"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="makingmusic476"]

Also, remember this:

FFXIII is being developed using the White Engine (actually, they are being developed simultaneously).  The White Engine is made from the gorund up for the ps3.

The Last Remnant, however, is being developed using the UNreal Engine 3.0, because it is multiplat.

They wouldn't suddenly completey restart development of FFXIII using another engine just to make it multiplat.  It would make any monetary gains from sales on the 360 null and void.

kindredmachine

Either way, it is designed around the ps3.  I don't think they are going to spend a bunch of money to completey rework the engine just to get the game to run on the 360.

ROTFL..

You're absolutely right. "All that effort, time, and money to port the game to a console that is dead in Japan" you say? You did know that Japan is only 20% of the worldwide making market right?

But you make a good point, if it's dead in Japan then what's the point? It's no wonder that games like Ace Combat 6, DMC4 and SE's own "The Remnants" aren't coming to the 360.... Oh wait..

[QUOTE="makingmusic476"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="makingmusic476"]

Also, remember this:

FFXIII is being developed using the White Engine (actually, they are being developed simultaneously).  The White Engine is made from the gorund up for the ps3.

The Last Remnant, however, is being developed using the UNreal Engine 3.0, because it is multiplat.

They wouldn't suddenly completey restart development of FFXIII using another engine just to make it multiplat.  It would make any monetary gains from sales on the 360 null and void.

Ultimas_Blade

Either way, it is designed around the ps3.  I don't think they are going to spend a bunch of money to completey rework the engine just to get the game to run on the 360.

... and you guys did know that there are more JRPGs in development right now for the 360 than for the PS3 right?;)kindredmachine

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="makingmusic476"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="makingmusic476"]

Also, remember this:

FFXIII is being developed using the White Engine (actually, they are being developed simultaneously).  The White Engine is made from the gorund up for the ps3.

The Last Remnant, however, is being developed using the UNreal Engine 3.0, because it is multiplat.

They wouldn't suddenly completey restart development of FFXIII using another engine just to make it multiplat.  It would make any monetary gains from sales on the 360 null and void.

Chris-Hansen

Either way, it is designed around the ps3.  I don't think they are going to spend a bunch of money to completey rework the engine just to get the game to run on the 360.

[QUOTE="makingmusic476"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="makingmusic476"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="makingmusic476"]

Also, remember this:

FFXIII is being developed using the White Engine (actually, they are being developed simultaneously).  The White Engine is made from the gorund up for the ps3.

The Last Remnant, however, is being developed using the UNreal Engine 3.0, because it is multiplat.

They wouldn't suddenly completey restart development of FFXIII using another engine just to make it multiplat.  It would make any monetary gains from sales on the 360 null and void.

Ultimas_Blade

Either way, it is designed around the ps3.  I don't think they are going to spend a bunch of money to completey rework the engine just to get the game to run on the 360.

All that effort, time, and money to port the game to a console that is dead in Japan?  Not too mention most of the jrpg types in the states and elsewhere most likely have not gone with a 360.kindredmachine

ROTFL..

You're absolutely right. "All that effort, time, and money to port the game to a console that is dead in Japan" you say? You did know that Japan is only 20% of the worldwide market right?

But you make a good point, if it's dead in Japan then what's the point? It's no wonder that games made by Japanese developers like Ace Combat 6, Virtua Fighter 5, DMC4 and SE's own "The Remnants" aren't coming to the 360.... Oh wait..

 

 

 

Also, it would cost more money to port the game to the 360 than it would be to simultaneously build a game for both systems.  Remember, FFXIII uses the White Engine, and has been in development for the ps3 only for well over a year.  A 360 version would have begun six months ago at the earliest.

The Last Remnant won't cost them too much money because they are using UE3.0 and have been develping it for both platforms from the get-go.  They don't need to drastically alter it to port it or anything.  If they did port it, they wouldn't slack off and pull a Ubisoft, either.  They put attention to details, and that would cost money.

Hes onto something guys.....The Club is multiplatform so maybe PGR4 IS GOING TO BE ON THE PS3 TOO!!!! AND MAYBE GOD OF WAR 3 WILL BE ON A CELL PHONE SEEING AS HOW THERES A GOD OF WAR CELL PHONE GAME!!!!!!!

I dont think it would be a massive downgrade. u act as if the PS3 is head and shoulders above the 360 in terms of graphics. the two happen to be very close. The PS3 version might look better, but nothing amazingly different. Oh and i do remember something about that Whiteenging being possible on the 360. I think it was in an article or an interview with one of the devs. but im not sure.jg4xchamp

Do you think the news about SE making "The Remnants" for both the PS3 and 360 is a n indication that FFXIII is coming to the 360 as well? It seems like the 360 is starting to get some SE luv.

kindredmachine

Not a sign, it is now like 1000% confirmed, FF13 and Star Ocean are multiplatform games

BTW with 10.000/week PS3 sales in Japan and PS3 selling terrible worldwide, just expect them to have already begun with FF13 for 360 production and conversion

[QUOTE="kindredmachine"]

Do you think the news about SE making "The Remnants" for both the PS3 and 360 is a n indication that FFXIII is coming to the 360 as well? It seems like the 360 is starting to get some SE luv.

greg_splicer

Not a sign, it is now like 1000% confirmed, FF13 and Star Ocean are multiplatform games

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] I dont think it would be a massive downgrade. u act as if the PS3 is head and shoulders above the 360 in terms of graphics. the two happen to be very close. The PS3 version might look better, but nothing amazingly different. Oh and i do remember something about that Whiteenging being possible on the 360. I think it was in an article or an interview with one of the devs. but im not sure.Chris-Hansen

Also, remember this:

FFXIII is being developed using the White Engine (actually, they are being developed simultaneously).  The White Engine is made from the gorund up for the ps3.

The Last Remnant, however, is being developed using the UNreal Engine 3.0, because it is multiplat.

They wouldn't suddenly completey restart development of FFXIII using another engine just to make it multiplat.  It would make any monetary gains from sales on the 360 null and void.

makingmusic476

Actually not, with 1/10 the cost to just port the engine, they will sell 2-3x the PS3 copies in the larger 360 install base, if what you said was true, then not only with PS3 sales would not make a profit, but be 1000% in debt, or 9 times more in debt than with the 360 version that costed 1/10 to make

They would not have to compeltly redone the whole game you knwo, like change the videos - AI - animations - models - textures - etc et etc, the game is 90% ready for 360, they will port first thing after it is released on PS3

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="kindredmachine"]

Do you think the news about SE making "The Remnants" for both the PS3 and 360 is a n indication that FFXIII is coming to the 360 as well? It seems like the 360 is starting to get some SE luv.

makingmusic476

Not a sign, it is now like 1000% confirmed, FF13 and Star Ocean are multiplatform games

[QUOTE="makingmusic476"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="kindredmachine"]

Do you think the news about SE making "The Remnants" for both the PS3 and 360 is a n indication that FFXIII is coming to the 360 as well? It seems like the 360 is starting to get some SE luv.

jg4xchamp

Not a sign, it is now like 1000% confirmed, FF13 and Star Ocean are multiplatform games

*puts him on my ignore list*

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] I dont think it would be a massive downgrade. u act as if the PS3 is head and shoulders above the 360 in terms of graphics. the two happen to be very close. The PS3 version might look better, but nothing amazingly different. Oh and i do remember something about that Whiteenging being possible on the 360. I think it was in an article or an interview with one of the devs. but im not sure.Chris-Hansen

You are so wrong!

 This guy hand a hand in FFXII, FFX, FFVIII, Chrono Trigger, Vagrant Story, and MUCH MORE!  That statement is nothing less then fanboyism.  If anything SE would be a very different company without this guy's influence!

And the Xbox 360 and PS3 are much more similar in terms of power than fanboys are willing to believe.

[QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] I dont think it would be a massive downgrade. u act as if the PS3 is head and shoulders above the 360 in terms of graphics. the two happen to be very close. The PS3 version might look better, but nothing amazingly different. Oh and i do remember something about that Whiteenging being possible on the 360. I think it was in an article or an interview with one of the devs. but im not sure.Ultimas_Blade

You are so wrong!

 This guy hand a hand in FFXII, FFX, FFVIII, Chrono Trigger, Vagrant Story, and MUCH MORE!  That statement is nothing less then fanboyism.  If anything SE would be a very different company without this guy's influence!

And the Xbox 360 and PS3 are much more similar in terms of power than fanboys are willing to believe.

[QUOTE="kindredmachine"]... and you guys did know that there are more JRPGs in development right now for the 360 than for the PS3 right?;)Chris-Hansen

So do care to explain White Knight Story being published by Sony?

[QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] I dont think it would be a massive downgrade. u act as if the PS3 is head and shoulders above the 360 in terms of graphics. the two happen to be very close. The PS3 version might look better, but nothing amazingly different. Oh and i do remember something about that Whiteenging being possible on the 360. I think it was in an article or an interview with one of the devs. but im not sure.Ultimas_Blade

You are so wrong!

 This guy hand a hand in FFXII, FFX, FFVIII, Chrono Trigger, Vagrant Story, and MUCH MORE!  That statement is nothing less then fanboyism.  If anything SE would be a very different company without this guy's influence!

And the Xbox 360 and PS3 are much more similar in terms of power than fanboys are willing to believe.

Actually there would be no Square-Enix if it wasn't for Sakaguchi.