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#1 Zero5000X
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http://swtor.com/media/trailers/video-documentary-3

looks like it's coming along famously.

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#2 moose_knuckler
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Wow just when I thought this idea was bringing the KOTOR storyline down the tubes, Bioware reminds me that they're developing it. This game will certainly bring something to MMO's I've been waiting to see for a long time.
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#3 cobrax75
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looks great

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#4 FrozenLiquid
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The art direction is simply fantastic. I'm loving it.

Still, it looks like you're paying an online subscription for a single player RPG. Not once in that video did they try relate the voice-over experience and how it will truly redefine the MMO playing field. They didn't have to explicitly state it, but neither did any of the game-play actually show any indication of an ultimately large playing field where lots of people help shape the world together.

If Bioware truly wants to redefine the MMO experience, it's not simply trying to turn MMOs into single-player RPGs, which is what they seem to be doing here. Voice acting won't change the game, and neither will a dozen scriptwriters.

Another thing I'm worried about is that that bounty hunter is wielding a lightsaber. In fact, he's even dual-wielding two lightsabers. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I really hope the world is not going to be packed with thousands of players each with their own lightsaber. That's not what the Star Wars universe is like at all.

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#5 Zero5000X
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The art direction is simply fantastic. I'm loving it.

Still, it looks like you're paying an online subscription for a single player RPG. Not once in that video did they try relate the voice-over experience and how it will truly redefine the MMO playing field. They didn't have to explicitly state it, but neither did any of the game-play actually show any indication of an ultimately large playing field where lots of people help shape the world together.

If Bioware truly wants to redefine the MMO experience, it's not simply trying to turn MMOs into single-player RPGs, which is what they seem to be doing here. Voice acting won't change the game, and neither will a dozen scriptwriters.

Another thing I'm worried about is that that bounty hunter is wielding a lightsaber. In fact, he's even dual-wielding two lightsabers. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I really hope the world is not going to be packed with thousands of players each with their own lightsaber. That's not what the Star Wars universe is like at all.

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The bounty hunter didn't have a lightsaber that was the Sith. The Sith was the thin one with the British accent and the Bounty Hunter was the big one with the gritty American accent.
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#6 Gamerz1569
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Nice. This game actually might actually rival WoW.

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#7 finalfantasy94
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I wish this wasint an mmo. I dont have a good PC and I dont want to pay a fee to play.

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#8 funsohng
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aww man what's wrong with my eyes... i thought the title said Star Fox: The Old Repbulic... anyways, i dont think it will interest me much since i think it requires monthly fees... i still havent finished kotor yet either
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#9 Vaasman
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The only bad thing so far is that it's pretty much going to take up a whole external HDD to play.

Should be awesome, can't freakin wait.

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#10 enterawesome
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Thats great and all, really, but um, where does the whole MMO part come in?
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aww man what's wrong with my eyes... i thought the title said Star Fox: The Old Repbulic... anyways, i dont think it will interest me much since i think it requires monthly fees... i still havent finished kotor yet eitherfunsohng
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I think it's the ears not the eyes.

Star Fox would have been even better though :(

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#12 zyrumtumtuggerm
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I don't play MMO's, but I might actually make an exception for this one. I hope there's a Bioware employee lurking around this place.
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Hopefully they can live up to what their saying unlike funcom...

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The bounty hunter didn't have a lightsaber that was the Sith. The Sith was the thin one with the British accent and the Bounty Hunter was the big one with the gritty American accent.Zero5000X

My bad, I thought they were one and the same. It seems everyone's wielding lightsabers in Star Wars nowadays though -- just look at Episode III and the Clone Wars saga.

Nevertheless, my point still stands. Bioware's letting everyone become a Jedi or Sith to the point where it's going to be rarer to see a smuggler instead of a Jedi Master. When that happens, I doubt The Old Republic will be as immersive as they want it to be.

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#15 rybe1025
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I finally broke free of my addiction to WoW I would hate to start on another MMO but dang that does look good.
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#16 rybe1025
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[QUOTE="Zero5000X"] The bounty hunter didn't have a lightsaber that was the Sith. The Sith was the thin one with the British accent and the Bounty Hunter was the big one with the gritty American accent.FrozenLiquid

My bad, I thought they were one and the same. It seems everyone's wielding lightsabers in Star Wars nowadays though -- just look at Episode III and the Clone Wars saga.

Nevertheless, my point still stands. Bioware's letting everyone become a Jedi or Sith to the point where it's going to be rarer to see a smuggler instead of a Jedi Master. When that happens, I doubt The Old Republic will be as immersive as they want it to be.

As long as the skills for all the classes are balanced out the game will be fine. Jedis may be huge at first but it will balance out I am sure. Also the3 flavor of the month class is always the over powered one. So if a smuggler is more powerfull then a jedi for whatever reasons then more poeple will want to play them. If I did play I personally would rather have a Chewbacca style. The big Wookie warrior
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#17 Yandere
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God, they honestly need to work on the graphics/character animations.. Being a huge dev and all Bioware has no excuse to have a MMORPG looking like that.

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#18 rybe1025
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God, they honestly need to work on the graphics/character animations.. Being a huge dev and all Bioware has no excuse to have a MMORPG looking like that.

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They are making it so as many people as possible can enjoy the game. For example look at WoW. or look how badly some of Sony's MMOs did because of the high graphics. Such as EQ2 and Vanguard. MMOs that players need higher end PCs will fail.
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#19 rogerjak
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God, they honestly need to work on the graphics/character animations.. Being a huge dev and all Bioware has no excuse to have a MMORPG looking like that.

Yandere

Oh thank God I am not the only one!!

Visually? Crap. Also I think the art direction doesn't fit the SW universe....just saying.

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#20 hywel69
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Impressive voice work, but what's gonna happen six weeks into the game? Re-roll, find a slightly different story for each character? How is it going to keep people engaged?

Also, all they've showed so far is what looks like an online singe player game? The graphics are nice to look at as stills, the animations however are terrible, I mean really choppy, rather than swing the light sabre around they seem to jerk from place to place like a Charlie Chaplin movie.

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#21 full_disclosure
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As good as bioware is MMO's are ripoffs. On top of that most are trash and even the best aren't very good. I hate what they've done to kotor hate hate hate it!

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#22 KungfuKitten
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Impressive voice work, but what's gonna happen six weeks into the game? Re-roll, find a slightly different story for each character? How is it going to keep people engaged?

Also, all they've showed so far is what looks like an online singe player game? The graphics are nice to look at as stills, the animations however are terrible, I mean really choppy, rather than swing the light sabre around they seem to jerk from place to place like a Charlie Chaplin movie.

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To be honest the only mmo i have seen with decent combat animation (that is what You mean right?) is conan.
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#23 gamedude00
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Im pretty sure the game is still in its alpha stage, thats why it doesnt look good. By the time its released, im sure it will look amazing.

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#24 KungfuKitten
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Im pretty sure the game is still in its alpha stage, thats why it doesnt look good. By the time its released, im sure it will look amazing.

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Strength of MMO's is definitely not the visuals anyway. What i'm really interested in is character customization, career path and whether they can keep the combat interesting... That latter one is almost impossible. If they pull that off, to some degree, it will beat any mmo out there.
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#25 Dead-Memories
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[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]

http://swtor.com/media/trailers/video-documentary-3

looks like it's coming along famously.

I hope they get a beta out soon, game will be excellent.
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#26 ManicAce
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I'm extremely excited at how it's shaping up, I don't normally play MMORPGs but that just looks damn good. If they could pull off the choices and good vs evil with an actual ending it would almost be like Kotor3, wouldn't mind that at all.

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#27 AGMing
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this WILL be the game to pull me away from SWG. ever since it was announced iv wanted this game, really cant wait to see how well bioware have pulled it together. in all honesty i think bioware write better SW scripts and storys than LA, i would love to see what kinds of games they could produce with full control over the star wars licence.

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#28 KungfuKitten
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this WILL be the game to pull me away from SWG. ever since it was announced iv wanted this game, really cant wait to see how well bioware have pulled it together. in all honesty i think bioware write better SW scripts and storys than LA, i would love to see what kinds of games they could produce with full control over the star wars licence.

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[QUOTE="Zero5000X"] The bounty hunter didn't have a lightsaber that was the Sith. The Sith was the thin one with the British accent and the Bounty Hunter was the big one with the gritty American accent.FrozenLiquid

My bad, I thought they were one and the same. It seems everyone's wielding lightsabers in Star Wars nowadays though -- just look at Episode III and the Clone Wars saga.

Nevertheless, my point still stands. Bioware's letting everyone become a Jedi or Sith to the point where it's going to be rarer to see a smuggler instead of a Jedi Master. When that happens, I doubt The Old Republic will be as immersive as they want it to be.

Actually it's probably what they are expecting considering the timeline of this game is where the jedi and sith were extremely numerous.

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Thats great and all, really, but um, where does the whole MMO part come in?enterawesome

Well that's just footage from the E3 demo they had that was behind closed doors, the bounty hunter and the sith are both different players there I believe (when they both are on the deck)

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#31 KungfuKitten
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"] The bounty hunter didn't have a lightsaber that was the Sith. The Sith was the thin one with the British accent and the Bounty Hunter was the big one with the gritty American accent.Espada12

My bad, I thought they were one and the same. It seems everyone's wielding lightsabers in Star Wars nowadays though -- just look at Episode III and the Clone Wars saga.

Nevertheless, my point still stands. Bioware's letting everyone become a Jedi or Sith to the point where it's going to be rarer to see a smuggler instead of a Jedi Master. When that happens, I doubt The Old Republic will be as immersive as they want it to be.

Actually it's probably what they are expecting considering the timeline of this game is where the jedi and sith were extremely numerous.

Yeah they are seemingly using timelines and plots to make the lightsaber a common sight. Understandable, since if You make a starwars game You better make sure people can use a lightsaber. I mean, everyone wants to have a lightsaber right? Well, i for one hope that i can make a perfectly well functioning character who doesn't have a lightsaber or only uses it in the most extreme rare circumstances as a backup.
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I'm usually not into MMO, but this looks fantastic.
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This game is going to ruleeeeee. I'm diggin the artstyle, I think..

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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

My bad, I thought they were one and the same. It seems everyone's wielding lightsabers in Star Wars nowadays though -- just look at Episode III and the Clone Wars saga.

Nevertheless, my point still stands. Bioware's letting everyone become a Jedi or Sith to the point where it's going to be rarer to see a smuggler instead of a Jedi Master. When that happens, I doubt The Old Republic will be as immersive as they want it to be.

KungfuKitten

Actually it's probably what they are expecting considering the timeline of this game is where the jedi and sith were extremely numerous.

Yeah they are seemingly using timelines and plots to make the lightsaber a common sight. Understandable, since if You make a starwars game You better make sure people can use a lightsaber. I mean, everyone wants to have a lightsaber right? Well, i for one hope that i can make a perfectly well functioning character who doesn't have a lightsaber or only uses it in the most extreme rare circumstances as a backup.

I'm honestly leaning towards bounter hunter but I'm still waiting for them to announce the rest of the professions. Why is c l a s s a banned word?

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#35 agentfred
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Looked pretty good, except for the little bits of over-hyping they threw in there.

"Nobody has ever tried to deliver this amount of immersion in a videogame so far"

Uh-huh. :roll:

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#36 spinecaton
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Like many have already said, it looks great but it is also looks like a single player MMO which I do not want. Looks like I'm going to experience majority of the game by myself but have a chat window to talk to friends, ummm yipee? Coming from FFXI I was a strong community aspect, I don't really care too much about voice acting at all. Actually I prefer not to have it because then I am force fed a accent for every character.

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#37 Eddie-Vedder
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All they've talked about is voice over's... That's not what MMORPG gamer's are looking for, it's welcome, but they should be showing other stuff like pvp systems, raids etc.

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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

Actually it's probably what they are expecting considering the timeline of this game is where the jedi and sith were extremely numerous.

Espada12

Yeah they are seemingly using timelines and plots to make the lightsaber a common sight. Understandable, since if You make a starwars game You better make sure people can use a lightsaber. I mean, everyone wants to have a lightsaber right? Well, i for one hope that i can make a perfectly well functioning character who doesn't have a lightsaber or only uses it in the most extreme rare circumstances as a backup.

I'm honestly leaning towards bounter hunter but I'm still waiting for them to announce the rest of the professions. Why is c l a s s a banned word?

It interferes with their code i think. I can't use my favorite smilies because i can't use some symbols. Try to use a capital i instead of l. Looks basically the same: cIass.
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#40 LookAnDrolL
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It looks a little scripted... Also what happened to Revan?
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#41 Im_single
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Looks great, hopefully they have some form of public testing some time soon...I want to get my hands on this.
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#42 AGMing
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It looks a little scripted... Also what happened to Revan?LookAnDrolL
think its set a few hundred years after KOTOR so dead probably.
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#43 mo0ksi
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This might actually be the one MMO I care about in the coming years. I just wish BioWare wasn't over hyping it like they were doing in the video.
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"] The bounty hunter didn't have a lightsaber that was the Sith. The Sith was the thin one with the British accent and the Bounty Hunter was the big one with the gritty American accent.Espada12

My bad, I thought they were one and the same. It seems everyone's wielding lightsabers in Star Wars nowadays though -- just look at Episode III and the Clone Wars saga.

Nevertheless, my point still stands. Bioware's letting everyone become a Jedi or Sith to the point where it's going to be rarer to see a smuggler instead of a Jedi Master. When that happens, I doubt The Old Republic will be as immersive as they want it to be.

Actually it's probably what they are expecting considering the timeline of this game is where the jedi and sith were extremely numerous.

Um, numerous compared to the population that was in the New Republic, not to the point where everywhere you look there's a Jedi Master and Sith Lord running about.

If this MMO is predictable enough, Bioware is making this knowing full well their universe's number one profession is going to be Jedi and Sith. The second most popular profession after that will be bounty hunter. Everything else will make up a single digit percentage.

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#45 RoOodriGowW
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Meh , couldn't care less about MMO's , don't get me wrong I loved KOTOR , I just hate the genre.

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Move over Blizzard, Bioware is coming.

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#47 Espada12
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Move over Blizzard, Bioware is coming.

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I hope it's at least 1/2 as successful as wow.