New Xbox One IP In The Works That Will "Push The Boundaries"

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#51  Edited By TheGreatGeneral
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@RR360DD said:

@thegreatgeneral said:

Sony vocabulary:

"push the boundaries."

"Best place to play"

You should watch some Sony conferences if you dont get it.

Sony have etablished:

Region Free

Renting games, but better games

Apps outside of paid service

No need for weak damage control. MS are chasing/copying Sony (But without much luck).

I find it ridiculous that you're implying Sony have some sort of ownership over such general terms. I hear that kind of PR fluff in the studio all the time, I guess they're all using "Sony" vocabulary too LOL

Ah, you misunderstood. Im not saying that Sony alone can use those phrases. I just think its extremly funny how MS and phil started to ape Sony right away after they got their asses kicked. They didn't use those phrases before.

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Such small, insignificant 'features'. The only one I will give credit for is the offering of 'free' games every month.

Big enough for MS to copy them and to make lemmings celebrate.

@RR360DD said:

MS are chasing Sony in hardware sales, but thats where it ends. They've steamed ahead in UI and Online. I mean they've always been ahead in infrastructure, Sony never have and never will come close. They're producing better quality exclusives despite being widely perceived as a company that has no games.

Theres really nothing on the PS4 that they need to be chasing or copying. Not even Sony know why the PS4 is selling, and they've admitted that themselves.

I already said that I dont need your weak damage control. Just accept that you were wrong and Xbox will forever be looked as the inferior brand.

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#53 Shewgenja
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A Rare game about pushing boundaries?

I predict a Kinect game about stocking warehouses with XBones that aren't selling.

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#54  Edited By jeezers
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I would love a fresh new platformer from rare, nuts n bolts didn't do it for me. I wanted a real banjo sequel

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#55 AznbkdX
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A new ip from Rare that is actually good might push me to go get an x1 a long side mcc, Sunset Overdrive and Ori.

Banjo Threeie collectathon similar to Banjo Tooie would make x1 an instant purchase though.

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#56 R4gn4r0k
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Ryse and Forza 5 pushed the boundaries too

of what people find acceptable when it comes to the amount of microtransactions in games.

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#57  Edited By chikenfriedrice
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@Shewgenja said:

A Rare game about pushing boundaries?

I predict a Kinect game about stocking warehouses with XBones that aren't selling.

Did you even bother to read the article?......the new "pushing boundaries" IP Phil is referring to is not from Rare. Troll harder.

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#58  Edited By Grey_Eyed_Elf
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"Push the boundaries"...

  • Boundaries...
  • Borders...
  • Borderlands...
  • Borderlands has 3 console releases...

HALF LIFE 3 CONFIRMED!

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#59  Edited By TheGreatGeneral
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@magicalclick said:

@thegreatgeneral:

You know you can be right about 5club. Just saying.

What are you on about?

Try to make sense or are your tears in the way?

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#60 hrt_rulz01
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Yes! Bring the old Rare back!

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#61  Edited By RR360DD
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@thegreatgeneral said:

@RR360DD said:

@thegreatgeneral said:

Sony vocabulary:

"push the boundaries."

"Best place to play"

You should watch some Sony conferences if you dont get it.

Sony have etablished:

Region Free

Renting games, but better games

Apps outside of paid service

No need for weak damage control. MS are chasing/copying Sony (But without much luck).

I find it ridiculous that you're implying Sony have some sort of ownership over such general terms. I hear that kind of PR fluff in the studio all the time, I guess they're all using "Sony" vocabulary too LOL

Ah, you misunderstood. Im not saying that Sony alone can use those phrases. I just think its extremly funny how MS and phil started to ape Sony right away after they got their asses kicked. They didn't use those phrases before.

@RR360DD said:

Such small, insignificant 'features'. The only one I will give credit for is the offering of 'free' games every month.

Big enough for MS to copy them and to make lemmings celebrate.

@RR360DD said:

MS are chasing Sony in hardware sales, but thats where it ends. They've steamed ahead in UI and Online. I mean they've always been ahead in infrastructure, Sony never have and never will come close. They're producing better quality exclusives despite being widely perceived as a company that has no games.

Theres really nothing on the PS4 that they need to be chasing or copying. Not even Sony know why the PS4 is selling, and they've admitted that themselves.

I already said that I dont need your weak damage control. Just accept that you were wrong and Xbox will forever be looked as the inferior brand.

"They didn't use those phrases before."

Umm, that would probably be because Phil was only appointed head of Xbox in March.

Implying Sony set such standards LOL. Sony didn't invent the idea of a region free console. Try harder.

And lets not forget the fact the PS4 is effectively a beefed up 360. Sony copied MS is everything but the name.

"I already said that I dont need your weak damage control"

In other words, you have no rebuttal. Thought so

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#62  Edited By lglz1337
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

Phil did say that Rare is going back to its roots. Bring on the megatons (and butthurt for cows).

yes using students ?

Rare is not the studio it used to be back in the days the yall gone after kinect shovelware

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#63 Krelian-co
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@millerlight89 said:

A rare game? Does it push the boundaries of mediocrecy?

lol lems got destroyed in a single sentence

nice damage control by microsoft though after the ps4 news of a new game reveal.

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#64 speedfog
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@GrenadeLauncher said:

Rare? lmao. Please shitbin.

If you read the article this isn't just about Rare....Rare was mentioned towards the end. The new "pushing the boundaries" IP is not from Rare.

He ain't even trying.

Read the article Grenade

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#66  Edited By Jolt_counter119
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Rare isn't a name anymore. They're a no name studio until they prove themselves, which they haven't yet.

edit: And no I do not want a Banjo Three from them. Even though it's my most wanted sequel ever, I do not want these impostors touching that franchise again. Just sell the ips to Nintendo already, I hate Microsoft man.

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#67 TheGreatGeneral
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@RR360DD said:

"They didn't use those phrases before."

Umm, that would probably be because Phil was only appointed head of Xbox in March.

The first time I heard them imitate Sony was at gamescom when they shamelessly used the catchphrase "the best place to play"

@RR360DD said:

Implying Sony set such standards LOL. Sony didn't invent the idea of a region free console. Try harder.

Neither Nintendo or MS had Region free or a PS+ service. You are the one who needs to try harder.

@RR360DD said:

And lets not forget the fact the PS4 is effectively a beefed up 360. Sony copied MS is everything but the name.

Yeah? How so?

Will it stop getting games after 3 years?

Will it have a 50%+ failure rate?

Will it have a payway for everything online without any kind of compensation?

Will it only be relevant in the US?

Will it have a yearly Halo/Forza/Gears cycle?

No the PS4 is nothing like the 360.

But its still funny how you as a lemming are using the 360 as a insult.

@RR360DD said:

"I already said that I dont need your weak damage control"

In other words, you have no rebuttal. Thought so

Just for fun I just did and even in the post before I rebuffed some of your bullshit.

QQ more.

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#68 smashed_pinata
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Xbone ~ Pushing the boundaries of boredom. Now with 30 FPS!

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#70 Jolt_counter119
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@scottpsfan14 said:

A Banjo Kazooie game or a new Conkers. That would be great. BK Nuts and Bolts was okay, I think if they got a little further back to the N64 game roots, it would be amazing.

I honestly think Rare aren't dead. I just think they're dormant at the moment. And will awaken this gen.

Awaken from what? The Rare team is gone. It will be a miracle if this mediocre team can do anything with the great ips that an amazing team made before.

I think Rare died when they removed all the Rare memorabilia from their building. It was them pretty much admitting "Yeah, we aren't Rare, and we don't want anything to do with Rare...but were keeping the name."

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@RR360DD said:

And lets not forget the fact the PS4 is effectively a beefed up 360. Sony copied MS is everything but the name.

Yeah? How so?

Will it stop getting games after 3 years?

Will it have a 50%+ failure rate?

Will it have a payway for everything online without any kind of compensation?

Will it only be relevant in the US?

Will it have a yearly Halo/Forza/Gears cycle?

No the PS4 is nothing like the 360.

But its still funny how you as a lemming are using the 360 as a insult.

@RR360DD said:

"I already said that I dont need your weak damage control"

In other words, you have no rebuttal. Thought so

Just for fun I just did and even in the post before I rebuffed some of your bullshit.

QQ more.

No, you just posted cow drivel.

They copied everything about the 360. They ditched the Cell (fail) and developed a console thats developer friendly. They built a unified UI that incorporated and focused on their social and online features. They starting charging for online multiplayer (LOL). They adopted a greater emphasis on attracting indies. They finally changed the dualshock and made it more ergonomic (with grips that look identical to the 360's). They started shipping every console with a mic etc. etc.

I could go on. They saw how successful the 360 was so they built one themselves, and who can blame them? Its just a pity they didn't copy the fact the 360 launched with great games in its first year. Still no AAAE on the PS4 :(

"Will it have a yearly Halo/Forza/Gears cycle?"

At least those games are quality. I'd rather have a quality sequel than a garbage new IP (Knack, FiveClub, The Corridor1886 LOL).

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#72  Edited By StrifeDelivery
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Push the boundaries? I doubt it.

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#73 deactivated-57de35bf0f08e
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I'd love to see Rare make a strong comeback and make quality games again.

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#74 TheGreatGeneral
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@RR360DD said:

@RR360DD said:

And lets not forget the fact the PS4 is effectively a beefed up 360. Sony copied MS is everything but the name.

Yeah? How so?

Will it stop getting games after 3 years?

Will it have a 50%+ failure rate?

Will it have a payway for everything online without any kind of compensation?

Will it only be relevant in the US?

Will it have a yearly Halo/Forza/Gears cycle?

No the PS4 is nothing like the 360.

But its still funny how you as a lemming are using the 360 as a insult.

@RR360DD said:

"I already said that I dont need your weak damage control"

In other words, you have no rebuttal. Thought so

Just for fun I just did and even in the post before I rebuffed some of your bullshit.

QQ more.

No, you just posted cow drivel.

They copied everything about the 360. They ditched the Cell (fail) and developed a console thats developer friendly. They built a unified UI that incorporated and focused on their social and online features. They starting charging for online multiplayer (LOL). They adopted a greater emphasis on attracting indies. They finally changed the dualshock and made it more ergonomic (with grips that look identical to the 360's). They started shipping every console with a mic etc. etc.

I could go on. They saw how successful the 360 was so they built one themselves, and who can blame them? Its just a pity they didn't copy the fact the 360 launched with great games in its first year. Still no AAAE on the PS4 :(

"Will it have a yearly Halo/Forza/Gears cycle?"

At least those games are quality. I'd rather have a quality sequel than a garbage new IP (Knack, FiveClub, The Corridor1886 LOL).

"They ditched the Cell (fail) and developed a console thats developer friendly."

You mean developer friendly like the PS1? Which was a goal like they stated?

"They built a unified UI that incorporated and focused on their social and online features."

And exceed MS in that.

"They starting charging for online multiplayer (LOL)."

They incopirated PS+ which to this day shits on GWG while being cheaper.

"They adopted a greater emphasis on attracting indies."

Again, exceed MS after they dropped them and are still demanding some parity. They brought Indies for consoles to a new high.

"They started shipping every console with a mic"

Another 180 MS made before releasing the xbone (Copying Sony again). Did you forget that backpedaling from MS?

"At least those games are quality. I'd rather have a quality sequel than a garbage new IP"

Not hard, because its practically those are same games made with a template. I dont like them.

And Sony released a 95 Metacritic new IP just last year. QQ

Looks like my original point of MS chasing/Copying Sony still stands tall over your mad fanboy nonsense.

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#75  Edited By cantloginnow
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Great article,nothing but good news.

Its got the Cows freaked out,TheGreatGeneral couldnt hold back his tears or GrenadeLauncher but that guy's always upset.

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Under normal circumstances, and given Rare's recent history of games, I wouldn't hold my hopes up. But the thing is I recently listened to the IGN podcast with Mr Spencer, and also based on what he's done to Xbox One since he came onbaord, well I will just say that I have a hard time dismissing what he is saying, this guy seems to be hitting all the right notes as far as XOne is concerned, so who knows something could come out Rare as it used to.

The thing is it sounds like more hope from his end rather than a promise....sounds like he wants them to be as they were before, but he cannot make promises because this kind of thing is easier said than done in practice.....you cannot simply replicate employees that were there before, the talent is different today, things are different.

But, one thing is for sure I expect to see some nice new IP in the future on Xbox One, if you listen to the Podcast you'll see some of the things he said about Sunset OD, he really likes giving new IPs a chance.....it seems to be the reason why they went with a Sunset Overdrive bundle rather than a Halo MCC bundle, because he wanted to emphasize the new IP which is Sunset Overdrive, he really sounds like he wants solid & varied games on the Xbox One and that's the most important thing in the end.

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#77  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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and when it flops you're going to blame the gaming media for hyping games

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#78 UnbiasedPoster
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I bet it will be cancelled for another Gears sequel.

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#79 PernicioEnigma
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It'll be a shit kinect game.

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@Lulu_Lulu said:

LoL... Microsoft doesn't know what boundries are.

Couldn't have put it better. In Phil I trust.

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@thegreatgeneral said:

"They ditched the Cell (fail) and developed a console thats developer friendly."

You mean developer friendly like the PS1? Which was a goal like they stated?

"They built a unified UI that incorporated and focused on their social and online features."

And exceed MS in that.

"They starting charging for online multiplayer (LOL)."

They incopirated PS+ which to this day shits on GWG while being cheaper.

"They adopted a greater emphasis on attracting indies."

Again, exceed MS after they dropped them and are still demanding some parity. They brought Indies for consoles to a new high.

"They started shipping every console with a mic"

Another 180 MS made before releasing the xbone (Copying Sony again). Did you forget that backpedaling from MS?

"At least those games are quality. I'd rather have a quality sequel than a garbage new IP"

Not hard, because its practically those are same games made with a template. I dont like them.

And Sony released a 95 Metacritic new IP just last year. QQ

Looks like my original point of MS chasing/Copying Sony still stands tall over your mad fanboy nonsense.

And the PS2 / PS3? They saw MS's success last gen with their dev-friendly architecture and knew they had to follow.

Again, you're falling back on cow drivel. They certainly have not exceeded the Xbox UI, there is so much the PS4 can't do in comparison its scary.

I was talking about online multiplayer, but nice deflection there.

Yeah, a "new high" where they depend on indies at the expense of blockbuster exclusives. Sony's E3/Gamescom conferences were a joke. If thats a route you're happy to buy into, then fair enough. But for me, I'm not going to get behind a console with all the bells and whistles and teh GDDR5 just to play indie flash games. There needs to be a balance there, something Sony are not hitting.

Your point? Funny how the Xbox still outdoes the PS4 with a proper mic and not some cheap mobile phone ear piece.

And, now you're having to scrape back to last gen to find a good Sony game LOL that desperation.

Come back to me when the PS4 finally gets its AAAE. Until then, you'll remain a joke.

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#82  Edited By FoxbatAlpha
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@lglz1337 said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Phil did say that Rare is going back to its roots. Bring on the megatons (and butthurt for cows).

yes using students ?

Rare is not the studio it used to be back in the days the yall gone after kinect shovelware

Yes Rare got screwed. You can un-screw this mess too. That what Phil is doing. Think positive dude.

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#83 SolidGame_basic
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

@lglz1337 said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Phil did say that Rare is going back to its roots. Bring on the megatons (and butthurt for cows).

yes using students ?

Rare is not the studio it used to be back in the days the yall gone after kinect shovelware

Yes Rare got screwed. You can un-screw this mess too. That what Phil is doing. Think positive dude.

lol hard to think positive when you have an X1. might as well just switch sides to Sony

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It is *Rare* but it happen sometimes developers manage to come up with a good new IP

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#85 SUD123456
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@chikenfriedrice said:

@Shewgenja said:

A Rare game about pushing boundaries?

I predict a Kinect game about stocking warehouses with XBones that aren't selling.

Did you even bother to read the article?......the new "pushing boundaries" IP Phil is referring to is not from Rare. Troll harder.

What you meant to say is:

Multiple new IPs from internal and external studios that push the boundaries and are not space marine shooters or racing games

Plus

A proposal for a new game from Rare which could be a new IP or resurrecting an IP, but which won't be Kinect based regardless of whether it is an old or new IP

Equals a minimum of 3 new games, of which at least two are based on new IP.

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#86 FoxbatAlpha
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@SolidGame_basic said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

@lglz1337 said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Phil did say that Rare is going back to its roots. Bring on the megatons (and butthurt for cows).

yes using students ?

Rare is not the studio it used to be back in the days the yall gone after kinect shovelware

Yes Rare got screwed. You can un-screw this mess too. That what Phil is doing. Think positive dude.

lol hard to think positive when you have an X1. might as well just switch sides to Sony

Wait that doesn't make sense. I have a Xbox ONE and think positively, you have a Sony and are thinking negatively. Rare will return. I don't care if it is Viva Pinata 2: Dawn of Something or whatever. Kinect games are pretty much on the down low and that studio should be firing on all 8 cylinders again soon.

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It will push the boundaries at 900p/30FPS, niiiice!

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#88 mems_1224
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@Chutebox said:

What are people expecting from Rare? I mean, does that team have any of the old Rare members there still? If not, why expect anything like what they used to do?

The old Rare guys weren't there when they made Viva Pinata and Banjo either were they? Those were great games

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#89 SolidGame_basic
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@FoxbatAlpha: I'm just offering you a better life dude. Just looking out for you.

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#90 j_assassin
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looks like Phil's been reading SW forum

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#91 Chutebox
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@mems_1224 said:

@Chutebox said:

What are people expecting from Rare? I mean, does that team have any of the old Rare members there still? If not, why expect anything like what they used to do?

The old Rare guys weren't there when they made Viva Pinata and Banjo either were they? Those were great games

Honestly have no clue man. I've never really followed Rare at all.

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#92 cainetao11
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Of Kinect 2.0?

LOL I couldn't resist TC.

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#93 cainetao11
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@SecretPolice:

Just another example of Spencer listening to Xbox feedback. Hope they do make something good. Nuts & Bolts was fun, imo. But since?

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#94 GrenadeLauncher
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@speedfog said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Rare? lmao. Please shitbin.

If you read the article this isn't just about Rare....Rare was mentioned towards the end. The new "pushing the boundaries" IP is not from Rare.

He ain't even trying.

Read the article Grenade

But that would involve me caring enough about the future of the (dead) Xbox brand.

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#95 delta3074
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@SecretPolice said:

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/new-xbox-one-ip-in-the-works-that-will-push-the-bo/1100-6423154/

Don't know if posted but figured could make for good SW material. :P

Few things stick out but for me, this caught my eye and I like what I'm hearing...

"Also in the interview, Spencer was asked what its British internal studio, Rare, is working on. He teased that he'd love to see them doing "something new that feels like a Rare game," going on to say that he's flying to the studio's office next month to see a pitch for the new game.

"I don't want Rare to become the Kinect Sports team," Spencer said, reiterating a point he's made previously. He added that while no new Kinect Sports titles are in the works now, the brand is important to Xbox and another team could work on a Kinect Sports title."

Any thoughts?

I will be honest with you SP, the best part of RARE left and became Free Radical (Crytek UK) Before MS bought them so i am not going to hold my Breath with this one.

Don't get me wrong, i would love to see an awesome Game From RARE again i am just going to be cautious about this and not get my hopes up.

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#97 delta3074
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@thegreatgeneral said:

"I don't need another military space marine game" -- Phil Spencer

So even Phil makes fun of the lemmings hyping yet another halo.

"push the boundaries."

Another thing I noticed is that Phil and xbox even started to copy Sonys vocabulary not to mention every feature Sony established in the last few years. Funny how they are chasing Apple in the smartphone market and Sony in the gaming market. MS in complete identity crisis.

'push the boundaries' a phrase that has been around as long as the English language is SONY's vocabulary despite them being a japanese company.

What a Dickhead, People have been using the Phrase 'push the boundaries' as far as console are concerned since Consoles Began.

I could say that By using 'pushing the boundaries' SONY are copying nintendos Vocabulary because i am sure at one point they said that about one of there consoles before SONY even entered the Console market.

Claiming that a generalised Phrase like that somehow belongs to someone is just plain being a cock at the end of the day.

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#98 lhughey
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@Chutebox said:

What are people expecting from Rare? I mean, does that team have any of the old Rare members there still? If not, why expect anything like what they used to do?

My thoughts exactly. thanks for saving me the typing.

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#99 lamprey263
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Weren't they saying similar things about Quantum Break... and after watching the latest video I'm not sold on that idea.