New York Times advocates buying Playstation 3

"For the price of a low-end Blu-ray player ($399), you get a pretty spectacular game system. This is as close as it gets to a free lunch."

source

This is precisely the nexus between the game and home video industry that analysts like Michael Pachter were predicting years back.

As much as I don't care for NY, they are right.Chutebox

why does this matter?angrymouse

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]As much as I don't care for NY, they are right.jg4xchamp

What's the difference?

I've always said the PS3 has the best value.. just not the best games and sadly for it that's where it counts.jangojay

Indeed, but they've had a hell of time trying to demonstrate that. And they are still struggling to do so in the games department.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]As much as I don't care for NY, they are right.jangojay

What's the difference?

Well at least my PS3 is starting to get a lot more action lately.

We added more to our Netflix list then just Star Trek. So now I get blu-ray movies once in awhile. Simpsons on BR was pretty good :)

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]As much as I don't care for NY, they are right.jg4xchamp

Never been to NY, I just hate Giants with a passion.

The way I see things.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]As much as I don't care for NY, they are right.Chutebox

Never been to NY, I just hate Giants with a passion.

The way I see things.

catlin_czirr

The way I see things.

catlin_czirr

Haha! Are people un-buying their systems or something?

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]As much as I don't care for NY, they are right.jg4xchamp

Never been to NY, I just hate Giants with a passion.

'Skins fan lol.

[QUOTE="catlin_czirr"]

The way I see things.

jg4xchamp

[QUOTE="angrymouse"]why does this matter?jg4xchamp

EXACTLY. (well written)

[QUOTE="catlin_czirr"]

The way I see things.

drewtwo99

Haha! Are people un-buying their systems or something?

why does this matter?angrymouse

Because at launch they were bashing the PS3 for being overpriced and forcing gamers to by an unproven format. Funny how things change in 1 year.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="catlin_czirr"]

The way I see things.

catlin_czirr

"For the price of a low-end Blu-ray player ($399), you get a pretty spectacular game system. This is as close as it gets to a free lunch."

source

This is precisely the nexus between the game and home video industry that analysts like Michael Pachter were predicting years back.

fuzzysquash

That seems like a complete 180 from what they were saying a year ago.

[QUOTE="catlin_czirr"]

The way I see things.

jg4xchamp

Wii sales are on the decline while PS3 sales are on the rise not to mention I would love for a sheep to name 5 more big exclusive titles coming ot the Wii this year.

[QUOTE="catlin_czirr"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="catlin_czirr"]

The way I see things.

jg4xchamp

360 could still beat the PS3 in the US and the rest of NA. But the PS3 will win worldwide.

THe wii will still trump both, it wont even be close.

The PS3 and 360 have many games they share together that the Wii doesnt have though. Both consoles have a far superior lineup to the Wii. Like most Nintendo consoles its thriving off first party titles and thats about it.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="catlin_czirr"]

The way I see things.

Polaris_choice

Wii sales are on the decline while PS3 sales are on the rise not to mention I would love for a sheep to name 5 more big exclusive titles coming ot the Wii this year.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="catlin_czirr"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="catlin_czirr"]

The way I see things.

Polaris_choice

360 could still beat the PS3 in the US and the rest of NA. But the PS3 will win worldwide.

THe wii will still trump both, it wont even be close.

The PS3 and 360 have many games they share together that the Wii doesnt have though. Both consoles have a far superior lineup to the Wii. Like most Nintendo consoles its thriving off first party titles and thats about it.

[QUOTE="angrymouse"]why does this matter?Polaris_choice

Because at launch they were bashing the PS3 for being overpriced and forcing gamers to by an unproven format. Funny how things change in 1 year.

Well, their initial judgments aren't the sharpest.

They did endorse Hillary, after all.

I kid, I kid :P

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="catlin_czirr"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="catlin_czirr"]

The way I see things.

jg4xchamp

360 could still beat the PS3 in the US and the rest of NA. But the PS3 will win worldwide.

THe wii will still trump both, it wont even be close.

The PS3 and 360 have many games they share together that the Wii doesnt have though. Both consoles have a far superior lineup to the Wii. Like most Nintendo consoles its thriving off first party titles and thats about it.

Yes but thats misleading why does it matter when the PS3 has the overall better library? And the Wii only titles will most likely be behind the PS3 only titles by the end of this year. Not to mention the Wii has more D grade titles then both consoles combined.

If I cared about HD movies I might agree with them.

As it stands, I am still annoyed with Sony for caring more about their format war than gaming. Despite 2008 often being labeled as "The year of the PS3" I still find more than enough games coming to 360 that I cannot justify buying a PS3.

Not that its a bad system, but for gamers like me Sony basically screwed themselves with the initial price tag. I'm plenty satisfied with my 360 as a gaming platform... well at least until I get the RRoD, then we'll see how I really feel...

Interesting to see it's still pushed as a BluRay player. With so many non gamers buying the Wii and PS3 it's going to make hardware numbers less relevant towards potential software sales.

Though I suppose the ps2 suffered the same fate eventually, except it was so far ahead it didn't matter.

why does this matter?angrymouse

WOAH the NY Times. This affects me in no way what so ever as im from England! Why do i care what some non-gamer who doesn't know anything at all about computer games has to say about consoles! its like going to a hospital and seeing the receptionist about your chronic fungus on your leg!!

If i wanna watch movies i will stick with my DVD player! If i wanna play games i will stick with my Wii!! If i want something which is no more usefull than a oversized paper weight then i will buy a PS3.

If I cared about HD movies I might agree with them.

As it stands, I am still annoyed with Sony for caring more about their format war than gaming. Despite 2008 often being labeled as "The year of the PS3" I still find more than enough games coming to 360 that I cannot justify buying a PS3.

Not that its a bad system, but for gamers like me Sony basically screwed themselves with the initial price tag. I'm plenty satisfied with my 360 as a gaming platform... well at least until I get the RRoD, then we'll see how I really feel...

Corvin

Well, I have to say, I disagree with the statement that Sony "cares more about their format war than about gaming." They care for both. Blu-ray and the PS3 have a symbiotic relationship--that was the plan from the outset, and judging by Blu-ray's victory and recent PS3 sales, that plan is being realized (albeit much later than Sony wanted).

Sony cares about the same thing that Microsoft or Nintendo care about. Profit. It's not about "caring more" for games or "caring less." It's whether games are going to be a vehicle to bring Sony profit, and in that sense, Sony is not impartial towards movies or games.

I've always said that the PS3 is bar none the best blu-ray player available. If you keep up with tech, you know about the royal shaft to all other blu ray owners that is known as spec 1.1 and 2.0. The PS3 is the only non paperweight Blu-Ray player currently sold. Its also the cheapest.

People know this. Well, americans know this. NPD data has PS3s flying off shelves and games sitting there to rot. Not too many are in the dark about the wonderful video potential of the PS3.

why does this matter?angrymouse

A blu-ray player alone can cost upward of £1000... if we do the sensible thing, we could have a deal of the century. One way or another we will all be buying a blu-ray player one day, might as well be a fully functional ps3. To say that doesn't matter is like saying price doesn't matter.

"For the price of a low-end Blu-ray player ($399), you get a pretty spectacular game system. This is as close as it gets to a free lunch."

source

This is precisely the nexus between the game and home video industry that analysts like Michael Pachter were predicting years back.

fuzzysquash

Notice how one of the biggest media outlet describes the PS3 as a low-end blu ray player first and then game system second. The PS3 will always be known as a blu ray player first, game system second machine. Get use to it, because that's what it is.

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

"For the price of a low-end Blu-ray player ($399), you get a pretty spectacular game system. This is as close as it gets to a free lunch."

source

This is precisely the nexus between the game and home video industry that analysts like Michael Pachter were predicting years back.

ReverseCycology

Notice how one of the biggest media outlet describes the PS3 as a low-end blu ray player first and then game system second. The PS3 will always be known as a blu ray player first, game system second machine. Get use to it, because that's what it is.

I don't think anyone but you would actually give a flying piss.

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

"For the price of a low-end Blu-ray player ($399), you get a pretty spectacular game system. This is as close as it gets to a free lunch."

source

This is precisely the nexus between the game and home video industry that analysts like Michael Pachter were predicting years back.

leejohnson7

Notice how one of the biggest media outlet describes the PS3 as a low-end blu ray player first and then game system second. The PS3 will always be known as a blu ray player first, game system second machine. Get use to it, because that's what it is.

I don't think anyone but you would actually give a flying piss.

The 280, 000 new PS3 blu ray player owners did.

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

"For the price of a low-end Blu-ray player ($399), you get a pretty spectacular game system. This is as close as it gets to a free lunch."

source

This is precisely the nexus between the game and home video industry that analysts like Michael Pachter were predicting years back.

ReverseCycology

Notice how one of the biggest media outlet describes the PS3 as a low-end blu ray player first and then game system second. The PS3 will always be known as a blu ray player first, game system second machine. Get use to it, because that's what it is.

Is there a problem with that?

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

"For the price of a low-end Blu-ray player ($399), you get a pretty spectacular game system. This is as close as it gets to a free lunch."

source

This is precisely the nexus between the game and home video industry that analysts like Michael Pachter were predicting years back.

fuzzysquash

Notice how one of the biggest media outlet describes the PS3 as a low-end blu ray player first and then game system second. The PS3 will always be known as a blu ray player first, game system second machine. Get use to it, because that's what it is.

Is there a problem with that?

Yes when half of PS3 owners aren't gamers.

[QUOTE="leejohnson7"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

"For the price of a low-end Blu-ray player ($399), you get a pretty spectacular game system. This is as close as it gets to a free lunch."

source

This is precisely the nexus between the game and home video industry that analysts like Michael Pachter were predicting years back.

ReverseCycology

Notice how one of the biggest media outlet describes the PS3 as a low-end blu ray player first and then game system second. The PS3 will always be known as a blu ray player first, game system second machine. Get use to it, because that's what it is.

I don't think anyone but you would actually give a flying piss.

The 280, 000 new PS3 blu ray player owners did.

Yes, but you say it like multimedia is a bad thing.

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

"For the price of a low-end Blu-ray player ($399), you get a pretty spectacular game system. This is as close as it gets to a free lunch."

source

This is precisely the nexus between the game and home video industry that analysts like Michael Pachter were predicting years back.

ReverseCycology

Notice how one of the biggest media outlet describes the PS3 as a low-end blu ray player first and then game system second. The PS3 will always be known as a blu ray player first, game system second machine. Get use to it, because that's what it is.

Is there a problem with that?

Yes when half of PS3 owners aren't gamers.

...see my thread on the naturalistic fallacy.