Newsweek article about the state of the PS3

It is very long and not to positive. It goes into a bunch of areas for example developer intrest with the PS3. The current state of PS3 sales.

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/levelup/archive/2007/05/21/monday-morning-quarterback-for-april-2007.aspx

I would copy and past the article but it is way to long.

The flow of time is everchanging, so is life....

In other words, the current issue of PS3 will change. Not "may" but will. Better or worse? Who knows. But people shouldn't count Sony out just yet.

The flow of time is everchanging, so is life....

In other words, the current issue of PS3 will change. Not "may" but will. Better or worse? Who knows. But people shouldn't count Sony out just yet.

yoshi_64

Concidering Sony's been appeasing consumers more in the past 6 months, then ever before...

...hopefully Sony continues this trend.

Hey that's great. You've created another PS3 bash thread. :roll: Do you have anything better to do? Lemmings say Cows troll here on the boards because the PS3 has no games. At this point in time, I think it's safe to say Lemmings are suffering the same fate at the moment.hotdaisy18

N'gai Croal is actually one of the most respected game journalists out there -- maybe try reading things before you fly off the handle. He's no lemming, he's right behind Sony when they perform.. but when they're laggin (like now) he'll tell it like it is.

And sorry, but 360 has Forza 2 and Shadowrun on the 29th, and the Wii has the new mario party game and MK coming out 29th too... we're sorted until next month, what's the PS3 have to keep ya busy? heh.. lord knows I haven't touched mine in a couple of weeks.

Analysis of the NPD's from two of the most informed, connected, and reputable journalists in the gaming industry?
I'd say it's worth a read.

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]

The flow of time is everchanging, so is life....

In other words, the current issue of PS3 will change. Not "may" but will. Better or worse? Who knows. But people shouldn't count Sony out just yet.

hotdaisy18

Concidering Sony's been appeasing consumers more in the past 6 months, then ever before...

...hopefully Sony continues this trend.

Then again, after the giant "**** you!" Sony had been sending the year or so before that, it may be too little too late...

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]Hey that's great. You've created another PS3 bash thread. :roll: Do you have anything better to do? Lemmings say Cows troll here on the boards because the PS3 has no games. At this point in time, I think it's safe to say Lemmings are suffering the same fate at the moment.3picuri3

N'gai Croal is actually one of the most respected game journalists out there -- maybe try reading things before you fly off the handle. He's no lemming, he's right behind Sony when they perform.. but when they're laggin (like now) he'll tell it like it is.

And sorry, but 360 has Forza 2 and Shadowrun on the 29th, and the Wii has the new mario party game and MK coming out 29th too... we're sorted until next month, what's the PS3 have to keep ya busy? heh.. lord knows I haven't touched mine in a couple of weeks.

I can give you Forza 2, it should be awesome, and maybe even Shadowrun (I don't care for it, but I know others who are looking forward to it), but you can't be serious listing Mario Party and an MK game as reasons why Wii is better than PS3. The Wii is just as bad, if not worse, than the PS3 right now and has NOTHING until MP 3 on Aug. 20, PS3 on the other hand has Ninja Gaiden Sigma and The Darkness headed its way in coming months.

Hey that's great. You've created another PS3 bash thread. :roll: Do you have anything better to do? Lemmings say Cows troll here on the boards because the PS3 has no games. At this point in time, I think it's safe to say Lemmings are suffering the same fate at the moment.hotdaisy18

he is quoting newsweek.

jeeeeezzzz, get over it and calm down.

this isn't an ethical place where peace and nirvana is abundant, okay? 

Hey that's great. You've created another PS3 bash thread. :roll: Do you have anything better to do? Lemmings say Cows troll here on the boards because the PS3 has no games. At this point in time, I think it's safe to say Lemmings are suffering the same fate at the moment.hotdaisy18

do you mean game drought? just wondering. I kind of understand what you mean by that if thats what you mean.

I been reading the blog N'Gai been posting from the link. He isnt anti-sony at all. He ends up putting the pros and cons of each console. Some of his perspective he wrote down were things i wouldnt have known or wondered about. At least he knows what he is talking about instead of other analyst who gives random BS that i usually hear from the news and dont know much about the game industry,

Hey that's great. You've created another PS3 bash thread. :roll: Do you have anything better to do? Lemmings say Cows troll here on the boards because the PS3 has no games. At this point in time, I think it's safe to say Lemmings are suffering the same fate at the moment.hotdaisy18

Is posting the facts really trolling? Even if its bad???....really is it?

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]Hey that's great. You've created another PS3 bash thread. :roll: Do you have anything better to do? Lemmings say Cows troll here on the boards because the PS3 has no games. At this point in time, I think it's safe to say Lemmings are suffering the same fate at the moment.Gamer46

N'gai Croal is actually one of the most respected game journalists out there -- maybe try reading things before you fly off the handle. He's no lemming, he's right behind Sony when they perform.. but when they're laggin (like now) he'll tell it like it is.

And sorry, but 360 has Forza 2 and Shadowrun on the 29th, and the Wii has the new mario party game and MK coming out 29th too... we're sorted until next month, what's the PS3 have to keep ya busy? heh.. lord knows I haven't touched mine in a couple of weeks.

I can give you Forza 2, it should be awesome, and maybe even Shadowrun (I don't care for it, but I know others who are looking forward to it), but you can't be serious listing Mario Party and an MK game as reasons why Wii is better than PS3. The Wii is just as bad, if not worse, than the PS3 right now and has NOTHING until MP 3 on Aug. 20, PS3 on the other hand has Ninja Gaiden Sigma and The Darkness headed its way in coming months.

Mario Party is big, despite what you think.  Plus,Manhunt 2, Pokemon Battle Revolution, Mario Strikers, and possiblyAlien Syndrome make the summer for the Wii not as bad as most people are saying.

Sony is really in a hard place.  With all the first party devs they employ, the should've had a bunch working on at least two games set to relase in the April/May time frame.  I know they had originally planned for Warhawk, Lair, and Heavenly Sword to release about now, and all the delays have really screwed up the first leg of this race for them.

What the need is a really good marketing campaign.  Their ads so far have been absolute garbage.  They need one ad that will highlight all the features of the ps3, and then show a bunch of the games.  It should start off saying, "the ps3 is one of the top Blu-Ray players on the market, can upscale dvds and ps1/2 games to 1080p, can stream stuf off of your computer, and not only that, plays awesome looking ps3 games!" And then it cuts to a bunch of clips of games like Ratchet & Clank, heavenly Sword, MGS4, Uncharted and LittleBigPlanet and finally fades out with the "PLAYSTATION 3" logo. The first bit of the commercial that details the ps3's features should be about half a minute, then they can have another half a minute of just clips of the aforementioned ps3 games.  Maybe show some clips of new Blu-Ray titles like PotC after the Blu-Ray comment as well.

It would be easy to design, cheap, and would describe the ps3 way better than any ad they've had thus far.  It would explain why the thing costs $600 and i think it would do a hell of a lot for sales. It would help convince a lot of the fencesitters trying to decide between the 360 and the ps3. 

An ad blitz like this is really the only thing i could see saving the ps3's sales right now.  Hell, they could even have two or three commercials, each focusing on different aspects of the machine, from Blu-Ray, to backwards compatibility, to the new games, to the machine being a full-on multimedia device.

The problem is that most people don't know what the ps3 does.  They only look at it as "the next playstation" and have no clue why it costs twice the price the ps2 did.

And there are a lot of fence sitters, i know.  They had some guy in GameStop the other day contemplating buying a ps3 just for MLB07, Madden, and a few other multiplat sports titles.  MLB07 was the only exclusive he wanted.  It's people like these, people that only know playstation, that need to be convinced.  The brand loyalty is there, it's just the price is really holding people back.

[QUOTE="Gamer46"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]Hey that's great. You've created another PS3 bash thread. :roll: Do you have anything better to do? Lemmings say Cows troll here on the boards because the PS3 has no games. At this point in time, I think it's safe to say Lemmings are suffering the same fate at the moment.gnarlychar

N'gai Croal is actually one of the most respected game journalists out there -- maybe try reading things before you fly off the handle. He's no lemming, he's right behind Sony when they perform.. but when they're laggin (like now) he'll tell it like it is.

And sorry, but 360 has Forza 2 and Shadowrun on the 29th, and the Wii has the new mario party game and MK coming out 29th too... we're sorted until next month, what's the PS3 have to keep ya busy? heh.. lord knows I haven't touched mine in a couple of weeks.

I can give you Forza 2, it should be awesome, and maybe even Shadowrun (I don't care for it, but I know others who are looking forward to it), but you can't be serious listing Mario Party and an MK game as reasons why Wii is better than PS3. The Wii is just as bad, if not worse, than the PS3 right now and has NOTHING until MP 3 on Aug. 20, PS3 on the other hand has Ninja Gaiden Sigma and The Darkness headed its way in coming months.

Mario Party is big, despite what you think.  Plus,Manhunt 2, Pokemon Battle Revolution, Mario Strikers, and possiblyAlien Syndrome make the summer for the Wii not as bad as most people are saying.

Mario Party- trash mini-game compilation

Manhunt 2- may be good, but could just as easily be bad.

Pokemon Battle Revolution- kids game

Mario Strikers- :lol:

Alien Syndrome- just no

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]Hey that's great. You've created another PS3 bash thread. :roll: Do you have anything better to do? Lemmings say Cows troll here on the boards because the PS3 has no games. At this point in time, I think it's safe to say Lemmings are suffering the same fate at the moment.3picuri3

N'gai Croal is actually one of the most respected game journalists out there -- maybe try reading things before you fly off the handle. He's no lemming, he's right behind Sony when they perform.. but when they're laggin (like now) he'll tell it like it is.

And sorry, but 360 has Forza 2 and Shadowrun on the 29th, and the Wii has the new mario party game and MK coming out 29th too... we're sorted until next month, what's the PS3 have to keep ya busy? heh.. lord knows I haven't touched mine in a couple of weeks.

I can give you Forza 2, it should be awesome, and maybe even Shadowrun (I don't care for it, but I know others who are looking forward to it), but you can't be serious listing Mario Party and an MK game as reasons why Wii is better than PS3. The Wii is just as bad, if not worse, than the PS3 right now and has NOTHING until MP 3 on Aug. 20, PS3 on the other hand has Ninja Gaiden Sigma and The Darkness headed its way in coming months.

Gamer46

This iteration of MP is going to have online play, a first in the series. It's a medium-to-high-profile game as it is, so I imagine it'll be fairly successful. Not a killer-app or anything, but probably a million seller at least. I doubt it'll match Forza 2's success though. Unless it scores very highly, I flat out refuse to touch Shadowrun, turning such a good RPG system into yet another shooter is just wrong IMO. NGS looks like it'll be awesome, not so sure about The Darkness yet though.

I think its intersting how ps3 fans made alot of noise about how launch firgures were better than 360's ( but thats was down to supply if you ask me ) but the 6 months totals are 1.3 mil for ps3 and 1.5 for 360. Even with a better launch the ps3 is struggling to compete with the new boy, just as nintendo 64 did with the ps1, and history would seem to faviour the 360.

Things will probably pick up when some games are released later this year.

Just as the article says, Nintendo's Wii is ruining the games industry.  I just hope and pray this wii fad will pass sooner rather than later or in 2 years all games will be trash like wii play.ironwarrior2

How is the Wii ruining the game industry? Casual games have been on the rise for awhile now it was only a matter of time before some one took advantage of it.

[QUOTE="ironwarrior2"]Just as the article says, Nintendo's Wii is ruining the games industry. I just hope and pray this wii fad will pass sooner rather than later or in 2 years all games will be trash like wii play.books83

How is the Wii ruining the game industry? Casual games have been on the rise for awhile now it was only a matter of time before some one took advantage of it.

the wii is expanding the gaming industry. the hardcore games which you want will never disappear even if the wii will win. 

[QUOTE="books83"]

[QUOTE="ironwarrior2"]Just as the article says, Nintendo's Wii is ruining the games industry. I just hope and pray this wii fad will pass sooner rather than later or in 2 years all games will be trash like wii play.lordlors

How is the Wii ruining the game industry? Casual games have been on the rise for awhile now it was only a matter of time before some one took advantage of it.

the wii is expanding the gaming industry. the hardcore games which you want will never disappear even if the wii will win.

You are about half right... what he mainly meant was that Microsoft and Sony may look over at Nintendo and think... "Hey we dont need to put in great graphics cards to make a lot of money." If everyone did that there would be no hardcore games with great graphics...

The flow of time is everchanging, so is life....

In other words, the current issue of PS3 will change. Not "may" but will. Better or worse? Who knows. But people shouldn't count Sony out just yet.

yoshi_64

some of the wisest words i've seen in SW ever.

Hey that's great. You've created another PS3 bash thread. :roll: Do you have anything better to do? Lemmings say Cows troll here on the boards because the PS3 has no games. At this point in time, I think it's safe to say Lemmings are suffering the same fate at the moment.hotdaisy18

Eltroz you got owned hotdaisy18 is right why is there a need to bash the PS3 right now honestly?

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]Hey that's great. You've created another PS3 bash thread. :roll: Do you have anything better to do? Lemmings say Cows troll here on the boards because the PS3 has no games. At this point in time, I think it's safe to say Lemmings are suffering the same fate at the moment.Medjai

Eltroz you got owned hotdaisy18 is right why is there a need to bash the PS3 right now honestly?

That's nice. I don't think PS3 is going to start to really shine till it actually gets the most anticipated games for the console, like GTAIV, MGSIV, FFXIII, GT5, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword and Haze.the-very-best

Yea but the price would scare off consumers to buy such games. Square-Enix has already relised this and made FFXIII multiplat. 

Wow....no neo-conservative has jumped in , towed the party line, nd dismissed Newsweek as "liberal garbage"? :roll:  There might be hope afterall.

On Topic: The PS3 needs a drastic price cut before sales will take off. History has proven time and time again that consoles enjoy their best sales at the $200 pricepoint and below.

Great articel. N'Gai is a great writer who isn't afraid to tell it how he sees it.

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]Hey that's great. You've created another PS3 bash thread. :roll: Do you have anything better to do? Lemmings say Cows troll here on the boards because the PS3 has no games. At this point in time, I think it's safe to say Lemmings are suffering the same fate at the moment.3picuri3

N'gai Croal is actually one of the most respected game journalists out there -- maybe try reading things before you fly off the handle. He's no lemming, he's right behind Sony when they perform.. but when they're laggin (like now) he'll tell it like it is.

And sorry, but 360 has Forza 2 and Shadowrun on the 29th, and the Wii has the new mario party game and MK coming out 29th too... we're sorted until next month, what's the PS3 have to keep ya busy? heh.. lord knows I haven't touched mine in a couple of weeks.

Ownage approved!!:D

You have to take it easy on the cows though. They are still very upset about April's NPD numbers and the lack of games to play. I've only turned my PS3 to watch blu-ray movies. No game has been played on my PS3 in about a month.

The PS3 needs good, exclusive games ... and soon ... to help with the sales ... daqua_99

no kidding, and to keep my interest...

[QUOTE="daqua_99"]The PS3 needs good, exclusive games ... and soon ... to help with the sales ... SkyCastleDan

no kidding, and to keep my interest...

When was the last time you played your PS3?  I haven't played mine in about a month.....other than blu-ray movies.

Hey that's great. You've created another PS3 bash thread. :roll: Do you have anything better to do? Lemmings say Cows troll here on the boards because the PS3 has no games. At this point in time, I think it's safe to say Lemmings are suffering the same fate at the moment.hotdaisy18

[QUOTE="ironwarrior2"]Just as the article says, Nintendo's Wii is ruining the games industry. I just hope and pray this wii fad will pass sooner rather than later or in 2 years all games will be trash like wii play.books83

How is the Wii ruining the game industry? Casual games have been on the rise for awhile now it was only a matter of time before some one took advantage of it.

That article is a great read, I don't mind what consol "wins" as long as I can get some good games for the one I have. I just love watching all the jockeying for position.

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]Hey that's great. You've created another PS3 bash thread. :roll: Do you have anything better to do? Lemmings say Cows troll here on the boards because the PS3 has no games. At this point in time, I think it's safe to say Lemmings are suffering the same fate at the moment.Medjai

Eltroz you got owned hotdaisy18 is right why is there a need to bash the PS3 right now honestly?

[QUOTE="Medjai"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]Hey that's great. You've created another PS3 bash thread. :roll: Do you have anything better to do? Lemmings say Cows troll here on the boards because the PS3 has no games. At this point in time, I think it's safe to say Lemmings are suffering the same fate at the moment.Eltroz

Eltroz you got owned hotdaisy18 is right why is there a need to bash the PS3 right now honestly?

:) I was mostly just kidding honestly...but you do bash the PS3 alot, not nice to kick a man while he down ;)

[QUOTE="Medjai"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]Hey that's great. You've created another PS3 bash thread. :roll: Do you have anything better to do? Lemmings say Cows troll here on the boards because the PS3 has no games. At this point in time, I think it's safe to say Lemmings are suffering the same fate at the moment.Eltroz

Eltroz you got owned hotdaisy18 is right why is there a need to bash the PS3 right now honestly?

If you actually read what I wrote, you'd understand that the consistancy of your posts or new threads are all PS3 bash sessions. But whatever helps you sleep better at night.

[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="Medjai"]

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]Hey that's great. You've created another PS3 bash thread. :roll: Do you have anything better to do? Lemmings say Cows troll here on the boards because the PS3 has no games. At this point in time, I think it's safe to say Lemmings are suffering the same fate at the moment.hotdaisy18

Eltroz you got owned hotdaisy18 is right why is there a need to bash the PS3 right now honestly?

If you actually read what I wrote, you'd understand that the consistancy of your posts or new threads are all PS3 bash sessions. But whatever helps you sleep better at night.

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]Hey that's great. You've created another PS3 bash thread. :roll: Do you have anything better to do? Lemmings say Cows troll here on the boards because the PS3 has no games. At this point in time, I think it's safe to say Lemmings are suffering the same fate at the moment.michael098

Is posting the facts really trolling? Even if its bad???....really is it?

When it is done countless times everyday by the same people it is. We know that Sony is in a rough spot right now, but why not find more focus on some of the more positive things that are just over the horizon, instead of trying to obscure whatever good news that the PS3 might get by continually beating a dead horse?

It is very long and not to positive. It goes into a bunch of areas for example developer intrest with the PS3. The current state of PS3 sales.

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/levelup/archive/2007/05/21/monday-morning-quarterback-for-april-2007.aspx

I would copy and past the article but it is way to long.

Eltroz

He is absolutely correct with his assessment about third parties "wishful thinking" when it comes to the wii and about the "hd" crowd. All who leaped before they looked onto the hd era should have thought it out with their minds instead of their hearts.

Funny that they mention several times the suprising sales of poorly reviewed Wii Play and how they are shocked by them. Never do they mention or conclude that IT IS SOLD WITH A THE HARD TO FIND WIIMOTE!! That is why it sells so well. =/LINKloco