Next gen console: POWERHOUSE or pathetic laptop joke?

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Poll Next gen console: POWERHOUSE or pathetic laptop joke? (32 votes)

Powerhouse! I want my consumer loving sold at loss monsters back! 56%
Laptop joke! I dont care about being sold at HIGHER than manufacturing cost! 41%

And I mean by powerhouse:

$1500 PC (excluding OS) running console ports at launch!

By laptop joke I mean:

$400 PC(excluding OS) running console ports at launch!

Very hard choice for many people!!

The above means exclusive PC gaming that not many people will be able to afford!

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#1  Edited By deactivated-5a44ec138c1e6
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At the same time, shouldn't the components start to come down in price ? I mean they are ridiculously expensive. And new ones are getting released like there's no tomorrow.

There should be a leash or something to hold them back a bit. Consoles aren't enough, is what it seems like.

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#2 intotheminx
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This may be the worst thread I've seen yet.

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#3 deactivated-5bda06edf37ee
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I don't get it.

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#4 koko-goal
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Next-gen consoles? We don't know yet ;)

You mean current-gen.

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#5 mjorh
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@intotheminx said:

This may be the worst thread I've seen yet.

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#6 lostrib
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it will all be all powerful due to teh Cloud!

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#7 QuadKnight
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@intotheminx said:

This may be the worst thread I've seen yet.

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#8 Hybrenated
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@intotheminx said:

This may be the worst thread I've seen yet.

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#9 PSP107
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@hybrenated:

Is it possible he didn't excute his topic right?

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#10  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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We get it....you love PC.

You should settle down.

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#11 ktseymour
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Isn't it fun acting like you're a girl? Nah, it's freaking creepy dude... ick

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#12 thehig1
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my laptop is more powerful than the consoles

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#13 lamprey263
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Next gen consoles are plenty powerful. Problem is that that power is wasted meeting arbitrary resolution and framerate standards.

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#14 aigis
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Whats going on?

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You must listen to this song (The Verve : The Drugs dont work)

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#16 Ant_17
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I don't get the question, if there is any.

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#17 DaVillain  Moderator  Online
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@aigis said:

Whats going on?

Your sig is awesome. That's what's going on :P

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#18 aigis
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@davillain- said:
@aigis said:

Whats going on?

Your sig is awesome. That's what's going on :P

Thanks! I was procrastinating and thought it would be cool :P

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#19  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator  Online
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This Thread is stupid!

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@quadknight said:
@intotheminx said:

This may be the worst thread I've seen yet.

You haven't seen many thread then, have you ?

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#22 uninspiredcup
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The general public doesn't care about this stuff.

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#23 lundy86_4
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You need to re-think your priorities.

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#24  Edited By FLOPPAGE_50
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Where did ya get the crack?

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#25 quatoe
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I just want a console that has an oven built in so I can make pizza and home made jalapeño poppers without leaving my gaming room. That is all.

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#26 tormentos
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@undefined:

A $400 laptop will run you nothing at all. Maybe dota 2 on ultra low quality everthing off and 1024x768.

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#27 BlbecekBobecek
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What does PC running console ports have to do with anything? As long as 80% of steam users have underpowered laptops, console ports will run on underpowered laptops no matter how hideous they look or how choppy they run.

That said, console ports should obviously pretty much always run on $1500 PC (except for lazyports), but they will hardly use its power effectively, because devs shall not fine tune their games for the few nerds with $1500 PC that might or might not buy it. Its just not economical for them.

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#28 thereal25
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@aigis said:

Whats going on?

I think what he (or she?) is getting at is whether or not the next generation of consoles should cost more money or not.

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#29 aigis
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@thereal25 said:
@aigis said:

Whats going on?

I think what he (or she?) is getting at is whether or not the next generation of consoles should cost more money or not.

ya think? I thought it was about choosing a pc :P The only mention of consoles was in the title, kind of a pointless thread when you boil it down anyways

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#30  Edited By emgesp
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The PS5/XB2 will be about 5-6x more powerful than current gen, so no they won't be powerhouses, at least when compared to the highest end PC GPUs.

Expect 9 - 11 Tflops from the next-gen consoles. Also, both will be released no later then 2019.

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@BlbecekBobecek said:

What does PC running console ports have to do with anything? As long as 80% of steam users have underpowered laptops, console ports will run on underpowered laptops no matter how hideous they look or how choppy they run.

That said, console ports should obviously pretty much always run on $1500 PC (except for lazyports), but they will hardly use its power effectively, because devs shall not fine tune their games for the few nerds with $1500 PC that might or might not buy it. Its just not economical for them.

proof?

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#32 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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Next gen I would like to see 2 versions of every console. The regular 400$ version and a 700$ version with more juice. The 300$ difference would be enough to add a decent GPU and maybe CPU. I dream I know...

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#33 thereal25
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One thing's for certain: the ps5 WILL be able to handle 1080p, 60fps lol!

@phbz said:

Next gen I would like to see 2 versions of every console. The regular 400$ version and a 700$ version with more juice. The 300$ difference would be enough to add a decent GPU and maybe CPU. I dream I know...

That seems like a good idea. At least it would stop people complaining about lack of power!

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#34 StrongBlackVine
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You are an idiot.

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#35 StrongBlackVine
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@phbz said:

Next gen I would like to see 2 versions of every console. The regular 400$ version and a 700$ version with more juice. The 300$ difference would be enough to add a decent GPU and maybe CPU. I dream I know...

How did that work out for the PS3? There were too versions, but all the talk was $599. Two versions would only lead to consumer confusion and the feeling that they got the pauper version if they choose the lower priced model. Also that is more work for studios. I'd rather have Naughty Dog focus on optimizing for one system instead two.

This is just a terrible idea. Build yourself a damn PC if you don't like the way consoles are going. Period. End of story. If you already have a PC then stay there.

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@StrongBlackVine: I don't give a damn about "consumer confusion", if people are dumb that's their problem. And from the developer side the difference wouldn't be great, if the system was well built scaling from one to the other could be very straight forward. And really can't see how the PS3 different models have any kind of relation with what I'm saying. But I can see how confusing this must be for someone like you.

And there's the huge plus of seeing a system war within the system wars. I can only imagine PS5 fanboys vs PS5.5 fighting the good fight.

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#37  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@phbz said:

@StrongBlackVine: I don't give a damn about "consumer confusion", if people are dumb that's their problem. And from the developer side the difference wouldn't be great, if the system was well built scaling from one to the other could be very straight forward. And really can't see how the PS3 different models have any kind of relation with what I'm saying. But I can see how confusing this must be for someone like you.

And there's the huge plus of seeing a system war within the system wars. I can only imagine PS5 fanboys vs PS5.5 fighting the good fight.

Someone like me? You don't know me so don't talk down to me you ignorant POS. You may not care about the negatives, but they exist and there is reason console manufacturers don't fragment their user base. God damn nerds acting tough online.

I'm glad you are so pathetic that your last sentence is something you actually look forward too. No one with a life would even think of shit like that. I'm done with you.

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@StrongBlackVine: Dude, with tards like you walking around, how can I resist not looking forward for that day. The internet will become pure gold!

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@phbz said:

@StrongBlackVine: I don't give a damn about "consumer confusion", if people are dumb that's their problem. And from the developer side the difference wouldn't be great, if the system was well built scaling from one to the other could be very straight forward. And really can't see how the PS3 different models have any kind of relation with what I'm saying. But I can see how confusing this must be for someone like you.

And there's the huge plus of seeing a system war within the system wars. I can only imagine PS5 fanboys vs PS5.5 fighting the good fight.

This is by far the stupidest post I, I ever seen coming from the likes of you. There will be no 2 versions of PS5 consoles, both Sony/MS found out the hard way last-gen consoles when they release 2 consoles and it cost them dearly.

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#40  Edited By PAL360
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Not sure i understand this thread, but i like my consoles to cost 400/500 euros, have powerful compared to the previous ones but not as good as the best PCs. Basically the way they have been since forever.

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@intotheminx said:

This may be the worst thread I've seen yet.

What do you mean ?

Reading the OP made me laugh out loud.

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#42  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@phbz said:

@StrongBlackVine: Dude, with tards like you walking around, how can I resist not looking forward for that day. The internet will become pure gold!

I'm glad you have something to look forward to...smh.

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#43  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@davillain- said:
@phbz said:

@StrongBlackVine: I don't give a damn about "consumer confusion", if people are dumb that's their problem. And from the developer side the difference wouldn't be great, if the system was well built scaling from one to the other could be very straight forward. And really can't see how the PS3 different models have any kind of relation with what I'm saying. But I can see how confusing this must be for someone like you.

And there's the huge plus of seeing a system war within the system wars. I can only imagine PS5 fanboys vs PS5.5 fighting the good fight.

This is by far the stupidest post I, I ever seen coming from the likes of you. There will be no 2 versions of PS5 consoles, both Sony/MS found out the hard way last-gen consoles when they release 2 consoles and it cost them dearly.

But I'm the dumb one...some people are just beyond reasoning and just stupid. When they have to starting sling personal insults that's an immediate sign that they have nothing worthwhile offer.

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#44 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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@davillain-: Never said that there will be 2 versions. Just that I would personally like that to happen.

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@phbz said:

@davillain-: Never said that there will be 2 versions. Just that I would personally like that to happen.

Good for you.