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#1 HR_Puff-N-Stuff
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Just look at Crysis now at MAX settings it's retarded good looking. in another 2-3 years just imagine. And then even imagine when developers start to tap the next Xbox a few years after launch. We will be seeing photo realism graphics in most games.

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#2 aaronmullan
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With 800FPS and 4D?
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#3 spinecaton
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Don't care about photo realism, I just want fun games.

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#4 spinecaton
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With 800FPS and 4D?aaronmullan

That would be Sony's claim to fame :P xbox will have Wall-E graphics! :o

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#5 1080pOnly
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Just look at Crysis now at MAX settings it's retarded good looking. in another 2-3 years just imagine. And then even imagine when developers start to tap the next Xbox a few years after launch. We will be seeing photo realism graphics in most games.

HR_Puff-N-Stuff

For the next gen console hardware you should look at the PC today.

The dev cycles, size and cost restraints always stop consoles having bleeding edge. That said Crysis does look amazing and to see that on next gen consoles with new IP's is somewhat exciting.

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#6 PSdual_wielder
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Trust me, they said the same thing about this gen back in 2004.

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#7 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="HR_Puff-N-Stuff"]

Just look at Crysis now at MAX settings it's retarded good looking. in another 2-3 years just imagine. And then even imagine when developers start to tap the next Xbox a few years after launch. We will be seeing photo realism graphics in most games.

1080pOnly

For the next gen console hardware you should look at the PC today.

The dev cycles, size and cost restraints always stop consoles having bleeding edge. That said Crysis does look amazing and to see that on next gen consoles with new IP's is somewhat exciting.

It's too early to judge that. When we hear that the next generation consoles are in development, then we should judge based upon that day's top of the line PC technology. By their release it'll be slightly dated, but definitely a huge step up from what we have now. Now there aren't more than a few hints here and there at another console being in the works for either Sony or MS (or Nintendo), so I don't see one coming anytime soon.
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#8 Uptown
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Trust me, they said the same thing about this gen back in 2004.

PSdual_wielder

This. We're seriously about THREE Generations from "Photo Realism". Even Crysis is NOT Photo Realistic by any means.

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#9 psn8214
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With 800FPS and 4D?aaronmullan

No way. PC already has that. More like 1600 FPS, 6D, and over 9000p.

*obvious sarcasm*

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Just look at Crysis now at MAX settings it's retarded good looking. in another 2-3 years just imagine. And then even imagine when developers start to tap the next Xbox a few years after launch. We will be seeing photo realism graphics in most games.

HR_Puff-N-Stuff
but then it wouldn't be fun, no one wants to play real life. Plus with shooters, that would be disgusting, I don't want to see actual blood and gore, leave it to cartoony chunks thank you. The day games get photo realistic is the day gaming will die.
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#11 04dcarraher
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LoL, At most they will be able to do is what pc does with Dx 11. Then 6 months later consoles will be outclassed again, and a year later the next direct x comes out.
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#12 kidcool189
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i really dont care about increased detail, resolution(720p is plenty for consoles), etc...i just want a 60fps standard across all games
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#13 kidcool189
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[QUOTE="HR_Puff-N-Stuff"]

Just look at Crysis now at MAX settings it's retarded good looking. in another 2-3 years just imagine. And then even imagine when developers start to tap the next Xbox a few years after launch. We will be seeing photo realism graphics in most games.

SF_KiLLaMaN
but then it wouldn't be fun, no one wants to play real life. Plus with shooters, that would be disgusting, I don't want to see actual blood and gore, leave it to cartoony chunks thank you. The day games get photo realistic is the day gaming will die.

ya u are right about photo realism not being good i almost feel wrong and sick when messin around and going on rampaging in gta 4(not saying its necessarily photo realistic) compared to older gta's
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#14 eo_the_shaman
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i play video games to escape reality

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#15 samuraiguns
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Don't care about photo realism, I just want fun games.

spinecaton

yep, +1.

i want this gen to last for as long as it can.

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#16 HR_Puff-N-Stuff
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i play video games to escape reality

eo_the_shaman

True that this is why a game like Borderlands I feel is going to be truly special.

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#17 SPYDER0416
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The current gen is pretty high up in the uncanny valley, but I'd say we're still a while away from seeing true photorealism. If anything the PC will come first in showing the truth in photorealistic graphics, while no mention of either a new Xbox or PS3 makes this a pretty random topic.

Plus I think Xbox 720 might need to start using blu ray discs if they want to have larger games.

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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]With 800FPS and 4D?psn8214

No way. PC already has that. More like 1600 FPS, 6D, and over 9000p.

*obvious sarcasm*

Sarcasm isn't needed here. We know it's a fact.. :P
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#19 HR_Puff-N-Stuff
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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

Trust me, they said the same thing about this gen back in 2004.

Uptown

This. We're seriously about THREE Generations from "Photo Realism". Even Crysis is NOT Photo Realistic by any means.

No way in 3 gems we will be playing full blown vitural reality systems

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[QUOTE="HR_Puff-N-Stuff"]

Just look at Crysis now at MAX settings it's retarded good looking. in another 2-3 years just imagine. And then even imagine when developers start to tap the next Xbox a few years after launch. We will be seeing photo realism graphics in most games.

SF_KiLLaMaN

but then it wouldn't be fun, no one wants to play real life. Plus with shooters, that would be disgusting, I don't want to see actual blood and gore, leave it to cartoony chunks thank you. The day games get photo realistic is the day gaming will die.

You wouldn't be playing real life, you'd be playing a game, with a certain type of gameplay, you'd be exploring an extremely immersive environment. How would it be any different from seeing a non-animated movie?

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#21 789shadow
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Really now?

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i really dont care about increased detail, resolution(720p is plenty for consoles), etc...i just want a 60fps standard across all gameskidcool189
i fully endorse this statement. id gladly give up a little graphical detail for 60fps. thats the only thing im really hoping for whenever the next next gen comes. but i couldve swore Sony and MS claimed most games this gen would run in 60 fps and we know that hasnt really happened.

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#23 HR_Puff-N-Stuff
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[QUOTE="kidcool189"]i really dont care about increased detail, resolution(720p is plenty for consoles), etc...i just want a 60fps standard across all gamestikki25x

i fully endorse this statement. id gladly give up a little graphical detail for 60fps. thats the only thing im really hoping for whenever the next next gen comes. but i couldve swore Sony and MS claimed most games this gen would run in 60 fps and we know that hasnt really happened.

Sony claimed 120FPS:lol:

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#24 HR_Puff-N-Stuff
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="HR_Puff-N-Stuff"]

Just look at Crysis now at MAX settings it's retarded good looking. in another 2-3 years just imagine. And then even imagine when developers start to tap the next Xbox a few years after launch. We will be seeing photo realism graphics in most games.

AAllxxjjnn

but then it wouldn't be fun, no one wants to play real life. Plus with shooters, that would be disgusting, I don't want to see actual blood and gore, leave it to cartoony chunks thank you. The day games get photo realistic is the day gaming will die.

You wouldn't be playing real life, you'd be playing a game, with a certain type of gameplay, you'd be exploring an extremely immersive environment. How would it be any different from seeing a non-animated movie?

Yes and games like Alan Wake and Heavy Rain already look freaking amazing so next gen games like that will defiantly be knocking at the photo realism door step.

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#25 tikki25x
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[QUOTE="tikki25x"]

[QUOTE="kidcool189"]i really dont care about increased detail, resolution(720p is plenty for consoles), etc...i just want a 60fps standard across all gamesHR_Puff-N-Stuff

i fully endorse this statement. id gladly give up a little graphical detail for 60fps. thats the only thing im really hoping for whenever the next next gen comes. but i couldve swore Sony and MS claimed most games this gen would run in 60 fps and we know that hasnt really happened.

Sony claimed 120FPS:lol:

no comment. lol

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#26 HR_Puff-N-Stuff
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[QUOTE="HR_Puff-N-Stuff"]

[QUOTE="tikki25x"]i fully endorse this statement. id gladly give up a little graphical detail for 60fps. thats the only thing im really hoping for whenever the next next gen comes. but i couldve swore Sony and MS claimed most games this gen would run in 60 fps and we know that hasnt really happened.

tikki25x

Sony claimed 120FPS:lol:

no comment. lol

I still to this day want to know what Kaz and Sony put in there pipe and smoked that had them claiming that. That was so LMAO:lol:

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Any console that pushes the latest technology on launch next gen will regret it, they can barely afford exclusives to differentiate themselves as it is.

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#28 supa_badman
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I thought this gen was supposed to be the MOST photo realistic.

At any rateI can hardly see past Crysis, I doubt gaming graphics could surpass that.

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#29 Tjeremiah1988
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Prepare for many gamers to enter the G building..
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#30 killa4lyfe
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i play video games to escape reality

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at least someones still a real gamer at heart :P
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#31 psn8214
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Any console that pushes the latest technology on launch next gen will regret it, they can barely afford exclusives to differentiate themselves as it is.

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Your sig is great. That thread is rather hilarious...

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#32 tikki25x
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Any console that pushes the latest technology on launch next gen will regret it, they can barely afford exclusives to differentiate themselves as it is.

AnnoyedDragon

good point. console games do feel a little homogenized lately. whats the point of stuffing all that tech in the box if its outdated within a few months? i wouldnt be surprised if the next round of consoles are just slightly upgraded versions of the current ones.

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#33 Tjeremiah1988
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anyway, ive been saying this for a long time. The day games look like "out side" real REAL, ill stop gaming. Why? Imagine playing a FPS that has no unique art style that looks insanely real :shock: ? I'd go crazy, literally.
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#34 tikki25x
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id be way more happy with something more Pixaresque rather than photorealism myself.

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#35 Toriko42
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They said the same thing about this generation, remember the target screenshots for Madden?
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I dont care if the next gen Xbox drops and has s...e...x with me. Im not falling for MS RROD again. Too bad for them as I was one of the best customers. Sorry MS you lose me next gen.

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#37 AnnoyedDragon
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Your sig is great. That thread is rather hilarious...

psn8214

What's mad is that old post still exists in that thread to this day, but when I quoted it one time I had my post deleted and I was suspended for two days.

Got to love GS moderators :roll:

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I dont care if the next gen Xbox drops and has s...e...x with me. Im not falling for MS RROD again. Too bad for them as I was one of the best customers. Sorry MS you lose me next gen.

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same. I wouldnt care if MS saids its RROD proof im not buying it.
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Photo realism... you mean like this?
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I can't wait for Next-gen graphics!!! Ya know, High Texture Detail instead of Medium. Max Draw Distance instead of 3 feet. 1080p instead of 720p or even lower. 2-8x AA instead of non. No blur effects. Some DX10/11 effects. Basicly everything the PC has now, just better. :roll:

Don't come up with that BS that there are games that run at 1080p, have AA etc. Name me 1 game that has EVERYTHING? 1080p, 4x AA, 16x Anisotropic filtering, let alone Ambient Occlusion and Tesselation. Exactly, not a single one.

"Next-gen" is available now punks, it's called PC.

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#41 kidcool189
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[QUOTE="verbalfilth"]Photo realism... you mean like this?

hey, nice avatar...i loved school rumble :D
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I can't wait for Next-gen graphics!!! Ya know, High Texture Detail instead of Medium. Max Draw Distance instead of 3 feet. 1080p instead of 720p or even lower. 2-8x AA instead of non. No blur effects. Some DX10/11 effects. Basicly everything the PC has now, just better. :roll:

Don't come up with that BS that there are games that run at 1080p, have AA etc. Name me 1 game that has EVERYTHING? 1080p, 4x AA, 16x Anisotropic filtering, let alone Ambient Occlusion and Tesselation. Exactly, not a single one.

"Next-gen" is available now punks, it's called PC.

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punks? was that neccessary? lol. we all know that man. but were talking about consoles so, ya know.

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#43 mayforcebeyou
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I hope they improve loading in games as well.
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#44 CAPSROGUE
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[QUOTE="CAPSROGUE"]

I can't wait for Next-gen graphics!!! Ya know, High Texture Detail instead of Medium. Max Draw Distance instead of 3 feet. 1080p instead of 720p or even lower. 2-8x AA instead of non. No blur effects. Some DX10/11 effects. Basicly everything the PC has now, just better. :roll:

Don't come up with that BS that there are games that run at 1080p, have AA etc. Name me 1 game that has EVERYTHING? 1080p, 4x AA, 16x Anisotropic filtering, let alone Ambient Occlusion and Tesselation. Exactly, not a single one.

"Next-gen" is available now punks, it's called PC.

tikki25x

punks? was that neccessary? lol. we all know that man. but were talking about consoles so, ya know.

I know, I was getting pretty pumped up so I threw that in to finish my statement. I imagined Obama saying the exact same thing and how everyone else would feel pwned. I was hoping for the same effect.

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#45 elforama
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I think we're more then one generation away from photo realism. I saw some tech demos for lighting techniques which looks really impressive. I think they were called ray-tracing, and photon mapping... something along those lines. They made things seem extremely real looking, but couldn't be done in real time at a practical level yet. I'd say give it 3 more gens or so.

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With 800FPS and 4D?aaronmullan
i thought that games already depicted time.....and why do u need 800fps. most people cant see more than 60-80fps. i remember when i saw the first 360 commercial....it was advertising quake 4....and i was laughing cause my 300usd radeon 9550 with amd 2800+ and 2 gig of 400mhz ddr ram was running that game at max setting at 1024x768 with 25+fps. but still, i cant wait to see the next generation....i just hope that people optimize correctly for ps4, cause im play nfs shift right now and am gettin weird lag and stutters. oh well.

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#47 HR_Puff-N-Stuff
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I hope they improve loading in games as well.mayforcebeyou

I think next gen loading games to the hard drive will be a full standard so this will help all games mostly.

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#48 djsifer01
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Don't care about photo realism, I just want fun games.

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This, graphics are just a added bonus.
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#49 Leejjohno
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There is a curve my friend.

Each generation the power of consoles doubles and perhaps even quadruples, but the differences become less and less noticeable, this is because we have already jumped to 3d graphics and about the only thing that is improving these days is lighting effects, texture details, sound and physics. Apart from physics (which is fairly standardised now anyway) everything there can only be noticed by looking carefully at details.

In other words, the improvement in performance and graphics is going to cost a lot more next generation for minimal improvement. We are at the top of that curve. I dare say console makers and developers are going to find more original ways to try and distinguish themselves from the competition, perhaps some kind of revolution... ohh wait.

Secondly, Crysis was a game that broke the bank in terms of production values, it went above and beyond conventional business practice in the videogame industry, not only that but it was on the PC, a system which the game can max out no matter how powerful with current technology while consoles will struggle to do HD resolutions even next gen, I bet... The game had open wide environments, realistic yet stylised visuals and flexible mix and match gameplay. All of that was met with mass piracy, the dregs of the video game industry who believe they deserve other peoples ideas for no reasons other than a lack of moral sense and arrogance. You wonder why people are experimenting with motion controllers? Because we have hit the glass ceiling and it isn't feasible to keep trying to push the boundaries in the conventional ways. Nintendo obviously wanted out of that folly, hence the wii and market share.

That's my shepherds pie, anyway.

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#50 Silenthps
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crysis is nowhere near photorealistic. maybe by like dx20 it'll be achieved.