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#1 3verlastingHero
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-Graphics look no better than NG:S and nowhere near the best on the system.

-No branching paths, completely linear.

-Story is pathetic.

-Long load times, and load times DURRING gameplay.

-no multiplayer.

-crap camera.

Seriously is this really on a next gen system? Who in there right mind thought this game could even touch MGS4, it's laughable.

EDIT: Gametrailers review, covers all the points I mentioned.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34662.html

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#2 LeviLRP
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No this game is not on next gen consoles. It is on this gen consoles.

Why does every one keep calling the PS3,360, and WII next gen? They have been out long enough to be this gen you know.

Either way, I don't care if they made another game just like the first one with different levels, I would still buy it. I loved the first one and am getting this one too.

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#3 Pietrooper
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And? It still has the deepest most visceral combat for any action game on any platform.
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#4 3verlastingHero
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No this game is not on next gen consoles. It is on this gen consoles.

Why does every one keep calling the PS3,360, and WII next gen? They have been out long enough to be this gen you know.

Either way, I don't care if they made another game just like the first one with different levels, I would still buy it. I loved the first one and am getting this one too.

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You know what I mean.
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#5 Toriko42
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Itagaki is a crazy guy...
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#6 3verlastingHero
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Itagaki is a crazy guy...Toriko42
Atleast Kojima doesn't say his games are the best games, he actually see his flaws in his games and admits them, Itagaki thinks his games are better than everyone elses. He even talked crap about DMC4.
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#7 kyacat
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Itagaki was saying in his OPINOIN 360 IS POWERFUL
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#8 -TheSecondSign-
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No multiplayer?

Is that an actual, legit complaint.

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#9 Nike_Air
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linear =/= bad

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-Graphics look no better than NG:S and nowhere near the best on the system.

-No branching paths, completely linear.

-Story is pathetic.

-Long load times, and load times DURRING gameplay.

-no multiplayer.

-crap camera.

Seriously is this really on a next gen system? Who in there right mind thought this game could even touch MGS4, it's laughable.

3verlastingHero

The concluding paragraph you have has no link with the points you made. How does the story or multiplayer options have to do with it being "next gen"? Oh and you forgot how awesome the gameplay is, which is the key attraction of the game.

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#11 3verlastingHero
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No multiplayer?

Is that an actual, legit complaint.

-TheSecondSign-
Using SW logic it is, because you know for a fact if MGS4 had no multiplayer people would use that fact against it, but luckly it does.
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#12 BioShockOwnz
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Hey, I thought you were banned?

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/profile/index.php?user=catlin_czirr

Anyways, I think NG2 looks like a great game. Sure, the story and camera still stink, but we've come to expect that. Gameplay is the key when it comes to NG.

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#13 3verlastingHero
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[QUOTE="3verlastingHero"]

-Graphics look no better than NG:S and nowhere near the best on the system.

-No branching paths, completely linear.

-Story is pathetic.

-Long load times, and load times DURRING gameplay.

-no multiplayer.

-crap camera.

Seriously is this really on a next gen system? Who in there right mind thought this game could even touch MGS4, it's laughable.

Zerocrossings

The concluding paragraph you have has no link with the points you made. How does the story or multiplayer options have to do with it being "next gen"? Oh and you forgot how awesome the gameplay is, which is the key attraction of the game.

Watch the Gametrailers review, it covers all the points I said.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34662.html

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#14 -TheSecondSign-
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[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

No multiplayer?

Is that an actual, legit complaint.

3verlastingHero

Using SW logic it is, because you know for a fact if MGS4 had no multiplayer people would use that fact against it, but luckly it does.

No I wouldn't.

It's a stealth game. It does not need multiplayer for anything.

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#15 Zerocrossings
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[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

No multiplayer?

Is that an actual, legit complaint.

3verlastingHero

Using SW logic it is, because you know for a fact if MGS4 had no multiplayer people would use that fact against it, but luckly it does.

Whoa, thats like saying DMC4 should have multiplayer because Halo 3 has it. Um, dont know if this is news to you but ..not all games are suited for multiplayer.

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#16 ZimpanX
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[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

No multiplayer?

Is that an actual, legit complaint.

3verlastingHero

Using SW logic it is, because you know for a fact if MGS4 had no multiplayer people would use that fact against it, but luckly it does.

Maybe because MGS3: Subsistance featured a fairly enjoyable multiplayer mode?

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#17 3verlastingHero
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[QUOTE="3verlastingHero"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

No multiplayer?

Is that an actual, legit complaint.

-TheSecondSign-

Using SW logic it is, because you know for a fact if MGS4 had no multiplayer people would use that fact against it, but luckly it does.

No I wouldn't.

It's a stealth game. It does not need multiplayer for anything.

YOU wouldn't but lemmings, and reviews would, trust me.
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-Graphics look no better than NG:S and nowhere near the best on the system.
They look a bit better than NGS if you'd have watched gameplay trailers. They're nowhere near the best on the system though, but they're quite fluid and easy on the eyes.

-No branching paths, completely linear.
It's an action game, DMC4 didn't have branching paths either.

-Story is pathetic.
Better than the previous entry.

-Long load times, and load times DURRING gameplay.
Okay. So what?

-no multiplayer.
Well that's a poor suggestion...:|

-crap camera.
No worse than any other action game, and perhaps better than most.

Seriously is this really on a next gen system? Who in there right mind thought this game could even touch MGS4, it's laughable.

3verlastingHero


And yet the game will continue having the most deep, visceral combat in the action genre. Gameplay is more important than "multiplayer" in an action game.
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#19 Pietrooper
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[QUOTE="3verlastingHero"]

-Graphics look no better than NG:S and nowhere near the best on the system.
They look a bit better than NGS if you'd have watched gameplay trailers. They're nowhere near the best on the system though, but they're quite fluid and easy on the eyes.

-No branching paths, completely linear.
It's an action game, DMC4 didn't have branching paths either.

-Story is pathetic.
Better than the previous entry.

-Long load times, and load times DURRING gameplay.
Okay. So what?

-no multiplayer.
Well that's a poor suggestion...:|

-crap camera.
No worse than any other action game, and perhaps better than most.

Seriously is this really on a next gen system? Who in there right mind thought this game could even touch MGS4, it's laughable.

Saturos3091



And yet the game will continue having the most deep, visceral combat in the action genre. Gameplay is more important than "multiplayer" in an action game.

Actually, on the story one. It's meant to be worse than the last. Somehow.

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#20 3verlastingHero
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[QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="3verlastingHero"]

-Graphics look no better than NG:S and nowhere near the best on the system.
They look a bit better than NGS if you'd have watched gameplay trailers. They're nowhere near the best on the system though, but they're quite fluid and easy on the eyes.

-No branching paths, completely linear.
It's an action game, DMC4 didn't have branching paths either.

-Story is pathetic.
Better than the previous entry.

-Long load times, and load times DURRING gameplay.
Okay. So what?

-no multiplayer.
Well that's a poor suggestion...:|

-crap camera.
No worse than any other action game, and perhaps better than most.

Seriously is this really on a next gen system? Who in there right mind thought this game could even touch MGS4, it's laughable.

Pietrooper



And yet the game will continue having the most deep, visceral combat in the action genre. Gameplay is more important than "multiplayer" in an action game.

Actually, on the story one. It's meant to be worse than the last. Somehow.

Really? Lol why would you make a story WORSE?
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#21 Mongo-Boss
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The game will be awesome, but if the linear thing is true. Didn't Itagaki complain about NG:S because it didn't take advantage of the new consoles and was to linear? :? (I think his complain was about it being linear or something like that)

What exactly did he do that was so much better than the team behing NG:S?

I love the NG series though and hope to play NG2.

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#22 100Gamer
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somebody's jealous that they dont get to play the game :lol:

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#23 CreepyBacon
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He has some very good points.

Theres just one problem, no one buys a Ninja Gaiden game for any of those reasons. All about the gameplay, which is better than ever.

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#24 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="3verlastingHero"]

-Graphics look no better than NG:S and nowhere near the best on the system.
They look a bit better than NGS if you'd have watched gameplay trailers. They're nowhere near the best on the system though, but they're quite fluid and easy on the eyes.

-No branching paths, completely linear.
It's an action game, DMC4 didn't have branching paths either.

-Story is pathetic.
Better than the previous entry.

-Long load times, and load times DURRING gameplay.
Okay. So what?

-no multiplayer.
Well that's a poor suggestion...:|

-crap camera.
No worse than any other action game, and perhaps better than most.

Seriously is this really on a next gen system? Who in there right mind thought this game could even touch MGS4, it's laughable.

Pietrooper



And yet the game will continue having the most deep, visceral combat in the action genre. Gameplay is more important than "multiplayer" in an action game.

Actually, on the story one. It's meant to be worse than the last. Somehow.



It's meant to be worse than the last? That doesn't really make sense...there's supposedly a better connection between events this time around, and more notable characters.
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#25 3verlastingHero
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somebody's jealous that they dont get to play the game :lol:

100Gamer

You were saying?

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#26 100Gamer
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[QUOTE="100Gamer"]

somebody's jealous that they dont get to play the game :lol:

3verlastingHero

You were saying?

can u write your gs account name and put it on top of the 360 to confirm it?

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#27 Vaan7
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Its already been agreed to be better than MGS4
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#28 3verlastingHero
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[QUOTE="3verlastingHero"][QUOTE="100Gamer"]

somebody's jealous that they dont get to play the game :lol:

100Gamer

You were saying?

can u write your gs account name and put it on top of the 360 to confirm it?

Yup, let me get some batteries for my camera, BRB I hope this doesn't get locked, if it does, ill PM it to you or something.
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#29 Nisim19
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you play the game?

no so stop write this BS

i play the demo, and the Graphics looks why better then NGS

the gameplay is the best in this gen you dont know how much this game fun i play the demo over 20 tims!

the camra and the story is ok just like the last game (and he still get AAA score )

and who needs multi in this game? this game is vary long like the last game.

this game is the best H&S i ever playd.

this is the best NG so stop think that reveiws are the last word and just play the game.

BTW the load times is ok, just like the last game.

this is a AAAE game for me

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#30 rolo107
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At least you didn't say that the graphics are worse then Sigma like a lot of cows have been saying. All your points are valid, but it is still a great game, even if it isn't an excellent one. I don't think having a great game as an exclusive is something to claim ownage about. (Uncharted Drake's Fortune, etc.)
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#31 chikenfriedrice
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and yet it got a very good score of 8.4.....so quit ur hating...unless ur one of those cry babies that gets their A** kicked in this game haha then I can understand the hate
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#32 LeviLRP
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[QUOTE="100Gamer"]

somebody's jealous that they dont get to play the game :lol:

3verlastingHero

You were saying?

You should get your 360 out of that confined area so it does not get to hot.

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#33 Ket87
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Itagaki was saying in his OPINOIN 360 IS POWERFULkyacat

Yeah and he didn't take advantage of it either. He's just a pretencious ass who makes half decent video games and thinks hes a rockstar. He and Cliffy B should be best friends. Kojima falls into a similar annoying developer trait that I hate in that he thinks hes making works of art and not something to pass the time for mere entertainment though he at least can look back on his games and say wish I did that, or yeah the graphics are crap but what can ya do. Itagaki just acts like a moron and talks trash on stuff without backing up his own.

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#34 Cooldude224
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I think you forgot

- Badass gameplay.

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#35 Ket87
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[QUOTE="3verlastingHero"][QUOTE="100Gamer"]

somebody's jealous that they dont get to play the game :lol:

LeviLRP

You were saying?

You should get your 360 out of that confined area so it does not get to hot.

Thats not bad at all, its open on all sides.

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#36 3verlastingHero
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Here you go 100gamer! Ive recently moved them.

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#37 liberty71441
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whatever make you happy , go play cooking mama or something
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#38 3verlastingHero
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whatever make you happy , go play cooking mama or somethingliberty71441
I don't have a Wii.....
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#39 100Gamer
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Here you go 100gamer! Ive recently moved them.

3verlastingHero

damn i got owned :P

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#40 3verlastingHero
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[QUOTE="3verlastingHero"]

Here you go 100gamer! Ive recently moved them.

100Gamer

damn i got owned :P

How? You asked a question, and I took the pic, it wasn't a big deal, lol.
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#41 novalue
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how the mighty have fallen.

that's what happens when you get cocky. Sony thought they were on top of the world...now they're dead last. Nintendo did the same before. Team Ninja is doing it...Rockstar too to an extent.

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#42 Chutebox
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No multiplayer?

Is that an actual, legit complaint.

-TheSecondSign-

Lemmings seem to use that argument to no end against Uncharted. I don't care for multiplayer for either games.

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#43 killzowned24
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Quaz from B3D is saying he thinks its 585p:)
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#44 3verlastingHero
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Quaz from B3D is saying he thinks its 585p:)killzowned24
Huh?
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yup we know
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#46 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

No multiplayer?

Is that an actual, legit complaint.

Chutebox

Lemmings seem to use that argument to no end against Uncharted. I don't care for multiplayer for either games.



Really?:? well shame on the Lemmings who did that, it seems rather pointless in Uncharted and even more pointless with NG2 seeing as there are no projectile weapons (unless you count the shurikens and bow, although that'd make for some ridiculously poor online).
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#47 3verlastingHero
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

No multiplayer?

Is that an actual, legit complaint.

Saturos3091

Lemmings seem to use that argument to no end against Uncharted. I don't care for multiplayer for either games.



Really? :S well shame on the Lemmings who did that, it seems rather pointless in Uncharted and even more pointless with NG2 seeing as there are no projectile weapons (unless you count the shurikens and bow, although that'd make for some ridiculously poor online).

Yup Uncharted was ragged on by reviewers and Lemmings because it "had no multiplayer" and looks like that argument has came full circle.
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I was thinking of buying Ninja Gaiden 2 but I think I'll pass because I'm gonna buy the four splinter cell games on the Xbox.

Splinter Cell > Metal Gear Solid

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#49 3verlastingHero
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I was thinking of buying Ninja Gaiden 2 but I think I'll pass because I'm gonna buy the four splinter cell games on the Xbox.

Splinter Cell>Metal Gear Solid

jeffdoomsday
Good choice, you will get a LOT more fun out of the 3 splinter cell games, Chaos Theory was the best in the series IMO, also the online is really fun for it!
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#50 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]

Really? :? well shame on the Lemmings who did that, it seems rather pointless in Uncharted and even more pointless with NG2 seeing as there are no projectile weapons (unless you count the shurikens and bow, although that'd make for some ridiculously poor online).
3verlastingHero
Yup Uncharted was ragged on by reviewers and Lemmings because it "had no multiplayer" and looks like that argument has came full circle.



Eh, reviewers aren't criticizing it for such a needless addition. With Uncharted it would make more sense to have MP (although it's a needless addition), but not with NG2, a full out action title, it's absolutely pointless.