Ninja Gaiden 1 or 2 vs. Demon's Souls: Which is more maddeningly difficult?

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Challenge can be both healthy and hellish. This contest concerns the "hellish" part more. That said, which is the tougher IP?

EDIT: and any version of the NG games can be used.

I dont have Demons Souls yet but i can say this for sure that DS is far more harder.. Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is easy.. i thoguht the game would be hard but so far i made it to Chapter 9 and nothing was really that hard to beat

I dont have Demons Souls yet but i can say this for sure that DS is far more harder.. Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is easy.. i thoguht the game would be hard but so far i made it to Chapter 9 and nothing was really that hard to beat

finalstar2007

the way I hear it Sigma's 2 dificulty was toned down compared to the 360 version.

The same goes for Sigma 1 when compared to ninja gaiden and ninja gaiden black

I dont have Demons Souls yet but i can say this for sure that DS is far more harder.. Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is easy.. i thoguht the game would be hard but so far i made it to Chapter 9 and nothing was really that hard to beat

finalstar2007

Seems like DS would be harder. Ninja Gaiden just seems to be cheap at times.siLVURcross

I dont have Demons Souls yet but i can say this for sure that DS is far more harder.. Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is easy.. i thoguht the game would be hard but so far i made it to Chapter 9 and nothing was really that hard to beat

finalstar2007

NGB and DS define what a "hard" game should be. NG2 is just cheap deguise as hard.

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I dont have Demons Souls yet but i can say this for sure that DS is far more harder.. Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is easy.. i thoguht the game would be hard but so far i made it to Chapter 9 and nothing was really that hard to beat

darkspineslayer

Im not playing on Warrior mode at this moment :P but sure will after im done with the first mode ( which forgot what its called) this was my first Ninja Giaden Sigma game so i started as a beginner

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Seems like DS would be harder. Ninja Gaiden just seems to be cheap at times.jg4xchamp

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

I dont have Demons Souls yet but i can say this for sure that DS is far more harder.. Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is easy.. i thoguht the game would be hard but so far i made it to Chapter 9 and nothing was really that hard to beat

Im not playing on Warrior mode at this moment :P but sure will after im done with the first mode ( which forgot what its called) this was my first Ninja Giaden Sigma game so i started as a beginner

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Seems like DS would be harder. Ninja Gaiden just seems to be cheap at times.jg4xchamp

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Seems like DS would be harder. Ninja Gaiden just seems to be cheap at times.Javy03

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Seems like DS would be harder. Ninja Gaiden just seems to be cheap at times.Javy03

Seriously, as a long time NG player, I feel confident in saying that Demon's Souls mops the floor with Ninja Gaiden games in terms of difficulty. DS is the hardest game I have played in years.

I have hard time imagining anything can be harder than the Black Spider Ninjas in the original ninja gaiden, or Alma. Say what you want, but it was ludicrous the first time you encountered them

EDIT: But then again, if you really say it is Kevin, then i'd guess i ove to myself to get sentenced to anger management therapy over the fall break :P

NG made me rage so much. I dont think I could take playing DS.

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Seems like DS would be harder. Ninja Gaiden just seems to be cheap at times.jg4xchamp

Seriously, as a long time NG player, I feel confident in saying that Demon's Souls mops the floor with Ninja Gaiden games in terms of difficulty. DS is the hardest game I have played in years.

Kevin-V

Ever play Arma 2?... :P

Seriously, as a long time NG player, I feel confident in saying that Demon's Souls mops the floor with Ninja Gaiden games in terms of difficulty. DS is the hardest game I have played in years.

Kevin-V

Ninja Gaiden 2 on Master Ninja by far.

Also, Ninja Gaiden 1's enemies are not cheap...especially not on the lower difficulties. Just because they don't stand there and let you shoot them like every other game today doesn't make them cheap.

Ninja Gaiden 2's enemies are a bit cheap though because of their unblockable grabs and suicide bombs.

Ninja Gaiden 2 on Master Ninja by far.

Also, Ninja Gaiden 1's enemies are not cheap...especially not on the lower difficulties. Just because they don't stand there and let you shoot them like every other game today doesn't make them cheap.

Ninja Gaiden 2's enemies are a bit cheap though because of their unblockable grabs and suicide bombs.

iLiveBy2words

Seriously, as a long time NG player, I feel confident in saying that Demon's Souls mops the floor with Ninja Gaiden games in terms of difficulty. DS is the hardest game I have played in years.

Kevin-V

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Seriously, as a long time NG player, I feel confident in saying that Demon's Souls mops the floor with Ninja Gaiden games in terms of difficulty. DS is the hardest game I have played in years.

Silent-Hal

DS by faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar.

I remember coming here in 2005 and hearing people screaming about how hard NG is. I remember thinking ..................what?

The thing to notice is even if a game is difficult, is it still fun to try and beat, despite the difficulty?get-ka12

NG1>NG2>Demon souls

On master Ninja that is

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Seems like DS would be harder. Ninja Gaiden just seems to be cheap at times.Tykain

Ninja Gaiden 2 (not sigma) on Master Ninja. On Mentor I've broken my Xbox controller (snapped right in half) several times. Master Ninja is pretty much unfathomably difficult. Despite it treading into the realm of cheapness, it makes anything else I've played look like a joke and that includes games like I Wanna Be The Guy.

I'm at the point where I have to trek for 3 minutes to get to the next group of enemies, and every time I just get killed before I can even see them (about 10 incendiary shurikens come flying out of nowhere), and all of this is on the first level. :|

It's mostly the camera and cheap attacks that kill you. Block an enemy? Grabbed (instant kill on Master Ninja during the first few levels). Dodge an enemy? Grabbed by another. Incendiary shurikens rip right through your block as well. Then there's bosses with attacks that are literally undodgable at a certain range, and they don't give you any warning so you can't actually get closer or further away. Plus, the ranged bosses are a nightmare. Try fighting TWO bosses at once, both of them only killable with the arrows, while numerous little versions of the bosses constantly appear (each one taking one to two fully charged arrows to kill) and swoop down to grab you (while your camera is focused in bow-mode) doing massive damage and screwing up your aim. The game is downright cheap.

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Ninja Gaiden 2 on Master Ninja by far.

Also, Ninja Gaiden 1's enemies are not cheap...especially not on the lower difficulties. Just because they don't stand there and let you shoot them like every other game today doesn't make them cheap.

Ninja Gaiden 2's enemies are a bit cheap though because of their unblockable grabs and suicide bombs.

dark-warmachine

Seriously, as a long time NG player, I feel confident in saying that Demon's Souls mops the floor with Ninja Gaiden games in terms of difficulty. DS is the hardest game I have played in years.

Kevin-V

I've beaten NG2 on master ninja and have been playing demon soul all day and its hard to compare difficulty between the too. I heard alot of people say ninja gaiden is cheap compared to Demon Soul its the most honest game I've played. On demon soul you'll run into knights which you never know how strong they are until they've wiped the floor with you in 2 attacks. Put you in situations where there are 2 such nights and a group of archers in front of you at the same timeif you take a few steps back a fire breathing dragon will toast you. I know its been said but you have to start over when you die? You'll find yourself playing more as a soul than physical form. Glad to see the game is getting good scores I'd give an 8 right now. But still NG2 was by far harder almost broke my 360 controller a few times between that and NGB.

Ninja Gaiden was only hard for me when I first played it, not knowing much about how the AI is and how the gameplay works. After getting used to the game there wasn't much problem after that, and the challenge level sort of drop dramatically after adapting to the game. So really it is more of a learning curve than anything, so yeah Demon's Soul is more difficult in my opinion.

I dont have Demons Souls yet but i can say this for sure that DS is far more harder.. Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is easy.. i thoguht the game would be hard but so far i made it to Chapter 9 and nothing was really that hard to beat

finalstar2007

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Seems like DS would be harder. Ninja Gaiden just seems to be cheap at times.Javy03

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Seems like DS would be harder. Ninja Gaiden just seems to be cheap at times.jg4xchamp

Ninja Gaiden's difficulty is more "maddening" since it's fake difficulty; the controls are so bonkers and jerk stupid, you can barely do anything right.

Demon Souls' difficulty, it seems, is actually functional. It's hard, but intuitive at the same time.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Seems like DS would be harder. Ninja Gaiden just seems to be cheap at times.siLVURcross

im honestly not trying to be inflammatory here but if you havent played either, why would you bother commenting? i see this quite a bit and dont understand it. though at least you will say so, a lot of other people dont bother with that detail.

my ds experience was limited to about a half hour of play at a friends house. he seems to hate the game with a passion but cant stop playing it. when i played it, it was pretty cool, but seems a bit... steep on difficulty. so based on my limited impressions, i would say ninja gaiden 2. that game wasnt worth playing.

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I dont have Demons Souls yet but i can say this for sure that DS is far more harder.. Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is easy.. i thoguht the game would be hard but so far i made it to Chapter 9 and nothing was really that hard to beat

darkspineslayer

Try some of the Ultimate ninja and master ninja challenges and then come back and try to say it isn't hard. Some of the challenges still remain unbeaten by anybody