Ninja Theory gave up on HS sequal to make game for 360 and PS3 (way to go cows)

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Ibacai"]Lemmings when HS came out - Haha, how's your crappy 4 hour game cows? Lemmings now - This is what happens when you don't buy games, cows. Good job. Now we get the next game from them too. Anyone else see the stupidity here? (Yes, a generalization of this thread. Not the entire lemming population)Ibacai

[QUOTE="_KenKittyragi_"]W/E they're making will probably be garbage for PS3/360. HS was way way way too short.Ragnarok1051

That seems to be about the only complaint people had for the game. Looked fun to me, like GOW which is fine by me.

[QUOTE="_KenKittyragi_"]W/E they're making will probably be garbage for PS3/360. HS was way way way too short.Ragnarok1051

That seems to be about the only complaint people had for the game. Looked fun to me, like GOW which is fine by me.

And it was fun. High production values to boot as well.

I had a couple problems with the overall control, but other than those minor frustrations the only gripe I had was the length. There is no way 5 hours of game is worth $60.

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

[QUOTE="_KenKittyragi_"]W/E they're making will probably be garbage for PS3/360. HS was way way way too short.Zassimick

That seems to be about the only complaint people had for the game. Looked fun to me, like GOW which is fine by me.

And it was fun. High production values to boot as well.

I had a couple problems with the overall control, but other than those minor frustrations the only gripe I had was the length. There is no way 5 hours of game is worth $60.

[QUOTE="Zassimick"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

[QUOTE="_KenKittyragi_"]W/E they're making will probably be garbage for PS3/360. HS was way way way too short.numba1234

That seems to be about the only complaint people had for the game. Looked fun to me, like GOW which is fine by me.

And it was fun. High production values to boot as well.

I had a couple problems with the overall control, but other than those minor frustrations the only gripe I had was the length. There is no way 5 hours of game is worth $60.

Might've been. I don't really remember any of the loading.

[QUOTE="numba1234"][QUOTE="Zassimick"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

[QUOTE="_KenKittyragi_"]W/E they're making will probably be garbage for PS3/360. HS was way way way too short.Zassimick

That seems to be about the only complaint people had for the game. Looked fun to me, like GOW which is fine by me.

And it was fun. High production values to boot as well.

I had a couple problems with the overall control, but other than those minor frustrations the only gripe I had was the length. There is no way 5 hours of game is worth $60.

Might've been. I don't really remember any of the loading.

[QUOTE="Zassimick"]

Might've been. I don't really remember any of the loading.

numba1234

Now I remember! Yeah that was a bit of an annoyance, especially during the final boss. He wasn't hard, just cheap. I think.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/19/heavenly-sword-dev-working-on-new-ip-for-360-ps3/

Do to your inability to buy games they gave up on making a game exclusive for the PS3 to start making multiplat games.

too_much_eslim

That is some SERIOUS ownage right there

Hope other devleopers do not see that news, or we will have MGS4, FF13, Heavy Rain, Wardevil, LA noire, Infamous etc move to 360 as well

[QUOTE="numba1234"][QUOTE="Zassimick"]

Might've been. I don't really remember any of the loading.

Zassimick

Now I remember! Yeah that was a bit of an annoyance, especially during the final boss. He wasn't hard, just cheap. I think.

Actually the load times weren't that long, but it had to load everytime you died and that was frustrating. Especially on the final boss when you die a lot. That was poor programming on their part. You shouldn't have to load when you die.

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/19/heavenly-sword-dev-working-on-new-ip-for-360-ps3/

Do to your inability to buy games they gave up on making a game exclusive for the PS3 to start making multiplat games.

numba1234

That is some SERIOUS ownage right there

Hope other devleopers do not see that news, or we will have MGS4, FF13, Heavy Rain, Wardevil, LA noire, Infamous etc move to 360 as well

Obviously because the games i mentioned are PS3 only for now, well if all those came on 360 there would still be God of War and White Knight, so a PS3 is always needed

That is some SERIOUS ownage right there

Hope other devleopers do not see that news, or we will have MGS4, FF13, Heavy Rain, Wardevil, LA noire, Infamous etc move to 360 as well

saolin323

I hope other devs DO see the news so that they know games that only last 5-6 hours don't sell. Maybe then we'll get some long lasting games.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

Oh no! Cows have to share an IP!

Horrors! God forbid a company wants to make some money and develop for more than one console. That's TERRIBLE!

EmperorSupreme

Umm... You didn't read the article did you?

"A new intellectual property for the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 is now being assembled, with some thought spared to a CGI movie tie-in"

what did I miss? I don't comment on stuff I haven't read.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/19/heavenly-sword-dev-working-on-new-ip-for-360-ps3/

Do to your inability to buy games they gave up on making a game exclusive for the PS3 to start making multiplat games.

carljohnson3456

It's funny, every 360 fanboy claimed HS sucked, was too short, blah blah blah. But soon as Ninja theory does a multiplatform game they say that PS3 owners should have bought it so they wouldnt go multiplat. Amusing.

yeah i totally agree, it always sucks until they get it, then ohh well you all should have kept it.

[QUOTE="Zassimick"][QUOTE="numba1234"][QUOTE="Zassimick"]

Might've been. I don't really remember any of the loading.

EmperorSupreme

Now I remember! Yeah that was a bit of an annoyance, especially during the final boss. He wasn't hard, just cheap. I think.

Actually the load times weren't that long, but it had to load everytime you died and that was frustrating. Especially on the final boss when you die a lot. That was poor programming on their part. You shouldn't have to load when you die.

There are long loading times for two reasons.

1. Ninja Theory wants you to have time to meditate on the way of the ninja.

2. Ninja Theory also wants to punish you as much as possible for dying.

umm the game sold pretty well.... how do you know that's why?

Sony was the publisher... i think they would be the ones giving up on the HS seqeul if it sold poorly (which it didn't.)

The demo for HS felt like a repetative bttn masher. I avoided.Darthmatt

more like a constant game of simon says with swords and colors.

Yeah this decision has nothing to do with 'cows not buying games' but more with 'cows only buy GOOD games'. In all honesty people will buy a title if it is worth the 60$ price tag and it looks interesting. Well reviews came out and while it certainly was interesting it wasn't long enough. 5-6 hours of game time is hardly worth $60 or higher in other countries. The problem was that this was an engine test for them really, spent alot of time on it but not enough on the game. And it is a pity because the story AND gameplay that is there is really good.

Ninja Theory seems like a developer that is more suited to do multiplats anyway. HS was originally an original Xbox exclusive! How it made the jump to the PS3 and the steps along the way literally confuse the hell outta me. Just going by HS it is obvious they are a company who is interested in making profits and not great gameplay experiences. So in closing, if their new multiplat title turns out to be really good, well thats great. I'm sure alot of people, both cows and lemmings, will go and pick it up on their respective console and play them. But if they release another half-hearted game like that not even all the lemmings is going to save them from the 2nd flop they'll have to their name.

I enjoyed Heavenly Sword. They need to be willing to except slow sales of a game early in the life of a console. They also need to realize it takes time to build a franchise. I think they should keep going with it. Heavenly Sword has everything it needs to become a hit franchise. I hope they don't give up on it.EmperorSupreme

Sony funded it, the lack of sales could of been why it never saw a sequal, when Resistance and Motorstorm did.

Lair probs wont see a sequal either.

typical cows....

But but the heavenly sword looks amazing it is an great game and will be a great game it kills any thing on the rrod60 and the game failo.

*after game is released and it gets scores and because they dont buy the game that was so great and ninja theory goes multiplatform* but but the game wasn't worth 60 dollars it sucked!

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/19/heavenly-sword-dev-working-on-new-ip-for-360-ps3/

Do to your inability to buy games they gave up on making a game exclusive for the PS3 to start making multiplat games.

carljohnson3456

It's funny, every 360 fanboy claimed HS sucked, was too short, blah blah blah. But soon as Ninja theory does a multiplatform game they say that PS3 owners should have bought it so they wouldnt go multiplat. Amusing.

It's fuel for the SW fire. Both cows and lemmings are horrible with it.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/19/heavenly-sword-dev-working-on-new-ip-for-360-ps3/

Do to your inability to buy games they gave up on making a game exclusive for the PS3 to start making multiplat games.

too_much_eslim

Since they ( AS FACTOR 5 ) FAILED to give what they promised,go to hell!!! Not only the game was "tiny". Graphics were ok.Nothing extraordinary.Sony spend so freaking much for marketing this (LAIR too). And in the end what?? Now what?They want more $$ to make a sequel when the first wasnt even near to what ppl expected?Not even near what even Sony hoped? (I dont want to talk about Lair because ill get banned for sure)

Should i cry now for this? Like Factor went to Wii? Nahh. I would "cry" maybe if MGS4 or FF13 or GoW3 go multi.not for HS2 or LAir 2. Sorry

Well, it was a medicore game, did lemmings expect us to buy it? Anyways Sony retained the IP so HS2 will still be Playstation exclusive.espoac

Yes...? I'm sure they fully expect people to buy a game that they hyped to the gills.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/19/heavenly-sword-dev-working-on-new-ip-for-360-ps3/

Do to your inability to buy games they gave up on making a game exclusive for the PS3 to start making multiplat games.

AzatiS

Since they ( AS FACTOR 5 ) FAILED to give what they promised,go to hell!!! Not only the game was "tiny". Graphics were ok.Nothing extraordinary.Sony spend so freaking much for marketing this (LAIR too). And in the end what?? Now what?They want more $$ to make a sequel when the first wasnt even near to what ppl expected?Not even near what even Sony hoped? (I dont want to talk about Lair because ill get banned for sure)

Should i cry now for this? Like Factor went to Wii? Nahh. I would "cry" maybe if MGS4 or FF13 or GoW3 go multi.not for HS2 or LAir 2. Sorry

[QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/19/heavenly-sword-dev-working-on-new-ip-for-360-ps3/

Do to your inability to buy games they gave up on making a game exclusive for the PS3 to start making multiplat games.

heretrix

Since they ( AS FACTOR 5 ) FAILED to give what they promised,go to hell!!! Not only the game was "tiny". Graphics were ok.Nothing extraordinary.Sony spend so freaking much for marketing this (LAIR too). And in the end what?? Now what?They want more $$ to make a sequel when the first wasnt even near to what ppl expected?Not even near what even Sony hoped? (I dont want to talk about Lair because ill get banned for sure)

Should i cry now for this? Like Factor went to Wii? Nahh. I would "cry" maybe if MGS4 or FF13 or GoW3 go multi.not for HS2 or LAir 2. Sorry

When a game hyped by SONY headquarters,marketing to death, making the sony-fans hyped too. Since the game wasnt what most of us expecting,was a failure. SAME for Lair. I never felt to buy it. I never even felt like i want to see the finish.... You call that good game?

What you like more doesnt mean anything. For example i dont like SMG at all. Isnt a fact that SMG is the best platform and game of 07? My preference doesnt mean anything.What i like or dont doesnt change some facts here.

Yeah this decision has nothing to do with 'cows not buying games' but more with 'cows only buy GOOD games'. In all honesty people will buy a title if it is worth the 60$ price tag and it looks interesting. Well reviews came out and while it certainly was interesting it wasn't long enough. 5-6 hours of game time is hardly worth $60 or higher in other countries. The problem was that this was an engine test for them really, spent alot of time on it but not enough on the game. And it is a pity because the story AND gameplay that is there is really good.

Shensolidus

QFT, the rediculous price tag was really caused the game to shot itself in the foot. Speaking from past experience, whenever there's a game I want to play, but it's either real expensive or extremely short, I just rent it and wait til the price goes down.

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/19/heavenly-sword-dev-working-on-new-ip-for-360-ps3/

Do to your inability to buy games they gave up on making a game exclusive for the PS3 to start making multiplat games.

AzatiS

Since they ( AS FACTOR 5 ) FAILED to give what they promised,go to hell!!! Not only the game was "tiny". Graphics were ok.Nothing extraordinary.Sony spend so freaking much for marketing this (LAIR too). And in the end what?? Now what?They want more $$ to make a sequel when the first wasnt even near to what ppl expected?Not even near what even Sony hoped? (I dont want to talk about Lair because ill get banned for sure)

Should i cry now for this? Like Factor went to Wii? Nahh. I would "cry" maybe if MGS4 or FF13 or GoW3 go multi.not for HS2 or LAir 2. Sorry

When a game hyped by SONY headquarters,marketing to death, making the sony-fans hyped too. Since the game wasnt what most of us expecting,was a failure. SAME for Lair. I never felt to buy it. I never even felt like i want to see the finish.... You call that good game?

What you like more doesnt mean anything. For example i dont like SMG at all. Isnt a fact that SMG is the best platform and game of 07? My preference doesnt mean anything.What i like or dont doesnt change some facts here.

I read and reread your post several times and for the life of me, I can't figure out what any of what you posted had to do with what I said.

Reviews ARE opinions, not fact. this is pretty much undisputable.

You should by what you like, not what is hyped. If you don't, then you aren't that smart.

What I like means EVERYTHING, since I'm spending my money and playing the games. The Wii is the best selling system out there right now. But I think it's a gimmicky system with a bunch of games I don't like. I sold mine and got a PS3. I'm happy and that works for me. I have no interest in SMG, it could be the best platform game, ever. That means nothing to me because of my lack of interest. That's how it is.