Nintendo has QUALITY....But what about QUANTITY?

nintendo has proven, every single gen, that it makes fantastic games. the problem is that they make maybe 2-3 really amazing games for their system each gen, and then it slowlt dies.

now with their new philosophy of keeping system life cycles longer than they previously were, how will they keep up? or will people keep buying them for the shovelware, because the only pint to owning a nintendo system is for nintendo games.

so now that metroid, zelda, mario, and soon to be smash released on Wii, and Mario, pokemon, metroid, and zelda on DS, how will nintendo sustain these consoles with their quality titles? nintendo really needs to up the production staff and decrease the dev time to pump out the games ninty owners need

Um, Nintendo is ONE company.

And historicaly perfectionists.

Um, Nintendo is ONE company.goblaa

but how do they expect to sustain a console for over 5 years, when they are the slowest at making games? on DS, they have nothing from their big franchizes announced. so how will they sustain them?

not really

wii 3rd party games still suck though

They have released the games you mentioned, all from exceptional development teams. Do you think all those development teams are going to sit on their asses until the next Nintendo console comes out? We've made Mario, Zelda and Metroid time for a 3 year vacation? They are working on games right now, old IP's, new IP's which will come out in a year or two's time. actionquake

also zelda tp was originally a gc game and the zelda designed for wii hasent been shown yet!

nintendo has proven, every single gen, that it makes fantastic games. the problem is that they make maybe 2-3 really amazing games for their system each gen, and then it slowlt dies.

now with their new philosophy of keeping system life cycles longer than they previously were, how will they keep up? or will people keep buying them for the shovelware, because the only pint to owning a nintendo system is for nintendo games.

so now that metroid, zelda, mario, and soon to be smash released on Wii, and Mario, pokemon, metroid, and zelda on DS, how will nintendo sustain these consoles with their quality titles? nintendo really needs to up the production staff and decrease the dev time to pump out the games ninty owners need

Awinagainov

Well for one thing Nintendo does release more than 2-3 great games a year. Look at last gen, Melee, Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, Rouge Leader, Resident Evil 4, and a few others.

On the N64 there was Super Mario 64, Star Fox 64, Goldeneye, Banjo Kazzoie 1-2, Mario Kart 64, Sin and Punnishment, Perfect Dark, Turok 1 and 2. Very good platform for big hits here.

I'm not even going to mention all the great titles on the Snes and Nes back in the day.

So really we don't have to worry, Nintendo has had many great quality titles in the past. Also decreasing the development time is a VERY bad solution, games need to be worked on until they are don, bot to just flood us with titles.

Um, Nintendo is ONE company.

And historicaly perfectionists.

goblaa

[QUOTE="Awinagainov"]

nintendo has proven, every single gen, that it makes fantastic games. the problem is that they make maybe 2-3 really amazing games for their system each gen, and then it slowlt dies.

now with their new philosophy of keeping system life cycles longer than they previously were, how will they keep up? or will people keep buying them for the shovelware, because the only pint to owning a nintendo system is for nintendo games.

so now that metroid, zelda, mario, and soon to be smash released on Wii, and Mario, pokemon, metroid, and zelda on DS, how will nintendo sustain these consoles with their quality titles? nintendo really needs to up the production staff and decrease the dev time to pump out the games ninty owners need

Sparticus247

Well for one thing Nintendo does release more than 2-3 great games a year. Look at last gen, Melee, Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, Rouge Leader, Resident Evil 4, and a few others.

On the N64 there was Super Mario 64, Star Fox 64, Goldeneye, Banjo Kazzoie 1-2, Mario Kart 64, Sin and Punnishment, Perfect Dark, Turok 1 and 2. Very good platform for big hits here.

I'm not even going to mention all the great titles on the Snes and Nes back in the day.

So really we don't have to worry, Nintendo has had many great quality titles in the past. Also decreasing the development time is a VERY bad solution, games need to be worked on until they are don, bot to just flood us with titles.

most of the N64 games you named were Rare titles lol.

[QUOTE="actionquake"]They have released the games you mentioned, all from exceptional development teams. Do you think all those development teams are going to sit on their asses until the next Nintendo console comes out? We've made Mario, Zelda and Metroid time for a 3 year vacation? They are working on games right now, old IP's, new IP's which will come out in a year or two's time. Awinagainov

They are making OTHER games, different Nintendo IP's and new IP's.

Also decreasing the development time is a VERY bad solution, games need to be worked on until they are don, bot to just flood us with titles.

Sparticus247

They are ONE company.

What did anyone not understand about that before? One company can't make 50 great games a year. And, honestly, it wouldn't make sense for them to do so. People are only going to buy about 10 games per year, at most, and most people will spread that across a couple of consoles at least. Considering that, a smart business would only want to put out 2 to 3 of its stellar products in a single year for a single console. Why make 10 fantastic games in one year for one console when your audience isn't going to buy all ten of them?

Get what I'm saying? It just wouldn't make sense for them to release 10 stellar games every year. And they're not holding the third parties back. It's just that Nintendo is much, much better than their competition, and their customers prefer to buy their first party titles rather than many decent third party offerings. If it's a Nintendo game, you can be sure that it's going to be worth your while.

That has always been the problem with Nintendo consoles....and despite what fanboys say....3rd party software still sucks on the Wii. Its amazing how much nonsense the Wii gets away with publicly.....lack of online, a community, any really great 3rd party support, horrible graphics and worthless multimedia features....Mii's are tacky....but it gets all this great PR daily. It really amazes me.Uptown

Man its price is great for what you get.

[QUOTE="Sparticus247"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"]

nintendo has proven, every single gen, that it makes fantastic games. the problem is that they make maybe 2-3 really amazing games for their system each gen, and then it slowlt dies.

now with their new philosophy of keeping system life cycles longer than they previously were, how will they keep up? or will people keep buying them for the shovelware, because the only pint to owning a nintendo system is for nintendo games.

so now that metroid, zelda, mario, and soon to be smash released on Wii, and Mario, pokemon, metroid, and zelda on DS, how will nintendo sustain these consoles with their quality titles? nintendo really needs to up the production staff and decrease the dev time to pump out the games ninty owners need

Uptown

Well for one thing Nintendo does release more than 2-3 great games a year. Look at last gen, Melee, Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, Rouge Leader, Resident Evil 4, and a few others.

On the N64 there was Super Mario 64, Star Fox 64, Goldeneye, Banjo Kazzoie 1-2, Mario Kart 64, Sin and Punnishment, Perfect Dark, Turok 1 and 2. Very good platform for big hits here.

I'm not even going to mention all the great titles on the Snes and Nes back in the day.

So really we don't have to worry, Nintendo has had many great quality titles in the past. Also decreasing the development time is a VERY bad solution, games need to be worked on until they are don, bot to just flood us with titles.

most of the N64 games you named were Rare titles lol.

Yes, a few were but that doesn't dispute that Nintendo has proven that many great games make it to their consoles. You can't expect one single developer to creat 2 or 3 great game a year, it's just not feasible.

They are ONE company.

What did anyone not understand about that before? One company can't make 50 great games a year. And, honestly, it wouldn't make sense for them to do so. People are only going to buy about 10 games per year, at most, and most people will spread that across a couple of consoles at least. Considering that, a smart business would only want to put out 2 to 3 of its stellar products in a single year for a single console. Why make 10 fantastic games in one year for one console when your audience isn't going to buy all ten of them?

Get what I'm saying? It just wouldn't make sense for them to release 10 stellar games every year. And they're not holding the third parties back. It's just that Nintendo is much, much better than their competition, and their customers prefer to buy their first party titles rather than many decent third party offerings. If it's a Nintendo game, you can be sure that it's going to be worth your while.

i_like_pizza

[QUOTE="actionquake"]They have released the games you mentioned, all from exceptional development teams. Do you think all those development teams are going to sit on their asses until the next Nintendo console comes out? We've made Mario, Zelda and Metroid time for a 3 year vacation? They are working on games right now, old IP's, new IP's which will come out in a year or two's time. Awinagainov

I think they said there are TWO(2) Zelda themed games in the works. And they said that the Metroid PRIME series is over but not the Metroid series as a whole.

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

Um, Nintendo is ONE company.

And historicaly perfectionists.

jack_russel

Nintendo isn't a person. It's a conglomerate. I wouldn't say, "GM is a perfectionist." "GM are perfectionists," I believe, would actually be correct, because you aren't speaking about GM as a thing, but rather as a group of people. It's the "they" effect, as I would like to call it.

[QUOTE="Sparticus247"]

Also decreasing the development time is a VERY bad solution, games need to be worked on until they are don, bot to just flood us with titles.

Awinagainov

True, but finding new very talented programmers and designers takes time, and many are already working for their said companies.

[QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]

They are ONE company.

What did anyone not understand about that before? One company can't make 50 great games a year. And, honestly, it wouldn't make sense for them to do so. People are only going to buy about 10 games per year, at most, and most people will spread that across a couple of consoles at least. Considering that, a smart business would only want to put out 2 to 3 of its stellar products in a single year for a single console. Why make 10 fantastic games in one year for one console when your audience isn't going to buy all ten of them?

Get what I'm saying? It just wouldn't make sense for them to release 10 stellar games every year. And they're not holding the third parties back. It's just that Nintendo is much, much better than their competition, and their customers prefer to buy their first party titles rather than many decent third party offerings. If it's a Nintendo game, you can be sure that it's going to be worth your while.

Awinagainov

Huh? The Wii has been out for 1 year now, and already has 3 amazing first-party titles: TP, MP3, and SMG.

3 in one year, and that's only first party! WTH are you talking about?

[QUOTE="Awinagainov"][QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]

They are ONE company.

What did anyone not understand about that before? One company can't make 50 great games a year. And, honestly, it wouldn't make sense for them to do so. People are only going to buy about 10 games per year, at most, and most people will spread that across a couple of consoles at least. Considering that, a smart business would only want to put out 2 to 3 of its stellar products in a single year for a single console. Why make 10 fantastic games in one year for one console when your audience isn't going to buy all ten of them?

Get what I'm saying? It just wouldn't make sense for them to release 10 stellar games every year. And they're not holding the third parties back. It's just that Nintendo is much, much better than their competition, and their customers prefer to buy their first party titles rather than many decent third party offerings. If it's a Nintendo game, you can be sure that it's going to be worth your while.

i_like_pizza

Huh? The Wii has been out for 1 year now, and already has 3 amazing first-party titles: TP, MP3, and SMG.

3 in one year, and that's only first party! WTH are you talking about?

what hes talking about is .....Now what? 2008.....Smash Bros (It woulda been this year if it wasnt delayed), Mario Kart and what else?

[QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

Um, Nintendo is ONE company.

And historicaly perfectionists.

i_like_pizza

Nintendo isn't a person. It's a conglomerate. I wouldn't say, "GM is a perfectionist." "GM are perfectionists," I believe, would actually be correct, because you aren't speaking about GM as a thing, but rather as a group of people. It's the "they" effect, as I would like to call it.

[QUOTE="i_like_pizza"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"][QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]

They are ONE company.

What did anyone not understand about that before? One company can't make 50 great games a year. And, honestly, it wouldn't make sense for them to do so. People are only going to buy about 10 games per year, at most, and most people will spread that across a couple of consoles at least. Considering that, a smart business would only want to put out 2 to 3 of its stellar products in a single year for a single console. Why make 10 fantastic games in one year for one console when your audience isn't going to buy all ten of them?

Get what I'm saying? It just wouldn't make sense for them to release 10 stellar games every year. And they're not holding the third parties back. It's just that Nintendo is much, much better than their competition, and their customers prefer to buy their first party titles rather than many decent third party offerings. If it's a Nintendo game, you can be sure that it's going to be worth your while.

Uptown

Huh? The Wii has been out for 1 year now, and already has 3 amazing first-party titles: TP, MP3, and SMG.

3 in one year, and that's only first party! WTH are you talking about?

what hes talking about is .....Now what? 2008.....Smash Bros (It woulda been this year if it wasnt delayed), Mario Kart and what else?

Are you serious? You already named 2 games. And they're still only first party. And they are coming out within the same calendar year? Self-pwnage a little bit?

Okami and Spore should help tide you over, as well, no?

nintendo has proven, every single gen, that it makes fantastic games. the problem is that they make maybe 2-3 really amazing games for their system each gen, and then it slowlt dies.

now with their new philosophy of keeping system life cycles longer than they previously were, how will they keep up? or will people keep buying them for the shovelware, because the only pint to owning a nintendo system is for nintendo games.

so now that metroid, zelda, mario, and soon to be smash released on Wii, and Mario, pokemon, metroid, and zelda on DS, how will nintendo sustain these consoles with their quality titles? nintendo really needs to up the production staff and decrease the dev time to pump out the games ninty owners need

Awinagainov

Theres still...

SMBB, Mario kart, Star Fox, F-Zero, umm.. it goes on. Believe it!

[QUOTE="i_like_pizza"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"][QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]

They are ONE company.

What did anyone not understand about that before? One company can't make 50 great games a year. And, honestly, it wouldn't make sense for them to do so. People are only going to buy about 10 games per year, at most, and most people will spread that across a couple of consoles at least. Considering that, a smart business would only want to put out 2 to 3 of its stellar products in a single year for a single console. Why make 10 fantastic games in one year for one console when your audience isn't going to buy all ten of them?

Get what I'm saying? It just wouldn't make sense for them to release 10 stellar games every year. And they're not holding the third parties back. It's just that Nintendo is much, much better than their competition, and their customers prefer to buy their first party titles rather than many decent third party offerings. If it's a Nintendo game, you can be sure that it's going to be worth your while.

Uptown

Huh? The Wii has been out for 1 year now, and already has 3 amazing first-party titles: TP, MP3, and SMG.

3 in one year, and that's only first party! WTH are you talking about?

what hes talking about is .....Now what? 2008.....Smash Bros (It woulda been this year if it wasnt delayed), Mario Kart and what else?

We've got a new Final Fantasy game coming along, Mushroom Men looks interesting, hope it performs well. There's the new Soul Calibuer game as well, and I'm hoping The Force Unleashed lightsaber combat works well, it could make the game. Nights has been rumored to be delayed until february, so that could be a maybe.

That's all I now fro right now.

[QUOTE="Uptown"][QUOTE="i_like_pizza"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"][QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]

They are ONE company.

What did anyone not understand about that before? One company can't make 50 great games a year. And, honestly, it wouldn't make sense for them to do so. People are only going to buy about 10 games per year, at most, and most people will spread that across a couple of consoles at least. Considering that, a smart business would only want to put out 2 to 3 of its stellar products in a single year for a single console. Why make 10 fantastic games in one year for one console when your audience isn't going to buy all ten of them?

Get what I'm saying? It just wouldn't make sense for them to release 10 stellar games every year. And they're not holding the third parties back. It's just that Nintendo is much, much better than their competition, and their customers prefer to buy their first party titles rather than many decent third party offerings. If it's a Nintendo game, you can be sure that it's going to be worth your while.

Sparticus247

Huh? The Wii has been out for 1 year now, and already has 3 amazing first-party titles: TP, MP3, and SMG.

3 in one year, and that's only first party! WTH are you talking about?

what hes talking about is .....Now what? 2008.....Smash Bros (It woulda been this year if it wasnt delayed), Mario Kart and what else?

We've got a new Final Fantasy game coming along, Mushroom Men looks interesting, hope it performs well. There's the new Soul Calibuer game as well, and I'm hoping The Force Unleashed lightsaber combat works well, it could make the game. Nights has been rumored to be delayed until february, so that could be a maybe.

That's all I now fro right now.

MarioKart Wii!!!!!!

1. Zelda Twilight Princess
2. Metroid Prime 3 Corruption
3. Super Mario Galaxy
4. Battallion Wars
5. Fire Emblem Path of Radience
6. Super Paper Mario
7. Wario Ware
8. Wii Sports
9. Mario Strikers

DS 2007

1. Phantom Hour Glass
2. Pokemon Diamond and Pearl
3. Yoshi's Island DS

Nintendo themselveshave both quality and quantity. I want to know the names of other devs that are doing this much. But in the end Nintendo still can't carry the load themselves. They need 3rd Party. Yet they are doing a good job of proving they can do it themselves :|

[QUOTE="i_like_pizza"][QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

Um, Nintendo is ONE company.

And historicaly perfectionists.

jack_russel

Nintendo isn't a person. It's a conglomerate. I wouldn't say, "GM is a perfectionist." "GM are perfectionists," I believe, would actually be correct, because you aren't speaking about GM as a thing, but rather as a group of people. It's the "they" effect, as I would like to call it.

What you decided to nitpick on (the plurality of "perfectionist") isn't really the right thing. What I'm trying to say is thatunderstanding of your sentence still isn't correct.While "Nintendo" is a singular noun, you're still missing something.

The "ist" suffix is contained in a word describing a person. For example: pianist, tourist, typist, etc. The word perfectionist, isn't describing the Nintendo company because it can't. That's just not the right way to use the word. "Nintendo is a perfectionistic company" might be the right way to say it, but "Nintendo is a perfectionist," is most definitely NOT the right way to say it.

Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, Mario Golf, Mario Strikers, 2 Metroid Prime games, 2 Pikmins, 2 Zeldas, SSBM, Mario Sunshine, Paper Mario 2, Mario Kart, various Mario Parties

Looks like plenty of Gamecube games.

Zelda: TP, Excite Truck, Wii Sports, Wii Play, Super Paper Mario, Mario Party 8, Big Brain Academy, Metroid Prime Corruption, Mario Strikers Charged, DK Barrel Blast, Fire Emblem, Mario Galaxy.

That is ONE YEAR of Wii games to be released in North America that were published by Nintendo. Say what you will about some of the games, but it is downright asanine to question their prolificity.