Nintendo Is A Bigger Company Than Sony

In terms of market capitalization.

Nintendo is a bigger company than Sony as a whole.

Tonight the streams crossed. After a disappointing earnings report from Sony in early November broke their comeback story (largely due to huge losses from box-office bombs), Sony's stock has dipped substantially and tonight in the Tokyo stock exchange Sony's market capitalization has fallen to 1.86 trillion yen ($17.769 billion).

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After bouncing off their multi-year lows last February Nintendo's stock has rallied more than 50% in the past few months perhaps as the 3DS posted decent numbers, or perhaps because of investor optimism that Nintendo will change strategies after the next quarterly earnings. Nintendo's market capitalization is now 1.93 trillion yen ($18.437 billion).

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So folks, Nintendo is not doomed, nor is it going any where. One failure like the Wii U isn't enough for it to mean anything. This is a company that has been around for nearly 150 years, they're too smart to go down like that.

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Nintendo is not bigger

Sony is a movie/music label and makes tv's/blu ray players an stuff

maybe nintendo gaming is bigger than sony gaming but its smaller overall than sony

I just posted a series of links. Nintendo's market capitalization is much bigger than all of Sony- that includes movies, music, life insurance, TV, whatever- all of it- put together.

Nintendo has less debt and a more streamlined operation. It also means that, no, the Wii U is not going away. Stop dreaming. This will allow them to increase or at least maintain support for it.

Good news all around for the big companies today. Well, most of them.

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@charizard1605: no its not i just watched a bunch of sony movies which they made themselves and they were on there blu ray and a sony ps4 player

i dont even a wii or wiiu so yes sony is bigger and i listened a singer whos sponsored by sony today sot ahts 10 sony things ive done ZERO nitnedno things so how is nintendo bigger charizard its not face it

Sony is a far bigger company assets are worth about $140-150 billion.

Nintendo is about $15 billion

It's bigger in terms of market capitalization, which is how companies are measured.

Just because Sony puts its fingers in too many pies (which is exactly its problem, incidentally), doesn't make it bigger. It makes it more bloated and unwieldy, which is why it's in its current financial shithole.

Simply put, you can't really compare the two. Sony is a massive conglomerate - it's worth much much more in parts then it is as a whole.

Heck, analytics valued the Xbox brand at 10B+. PlayStation is probably worth 10B+ as well.

Analytics don't have any hard numbers to go by. Plus remember, you aren't considering factors like debt.

The point of this comparison is to show that Nintendo is a massive company, and one Wii U failure means nothing to them in the big picture.

Nintendo is a large company but I wouldn't say the Wii U's failure means nothing. Nintendo literally only makes two main products (a console and a handheld) and because of this their market cap is prone to fluctuate quite a bit. Nintendo's market cap actually hit around $85M in 2008, when the Wii was in it's prime. The good thing is that Nintendo has a ton of cash on hand but they are definitely a house of cards. Their handheld market is and will continue to be cannibalized by mobile gaming and it's getting to the point where a Nintendo console may never again compete with PlayStation and Xbox. Nintendo isn't anywhere near complete failure but they need to invest heavily into not only a next gen console but next gen network services and initiatives right now. Nintendo has a ton of potential based on their brand name and IP's but they are being left behind in a market that will not be getting any easier.

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Nintendo:

• Employees: 4,928
• Sales: $7.82 B

Sony:

• Employees: 162,700
• Sales: $78.52 B

Nope, SONY IS FAR BIGGER!!!

@Newhopes: this

Market capitalization is not a direct measure of how big a company is. It just (perhaps) shows how financially successful a company is. A failing company of 5000 employees can have a market capitalization of zero dollars if their product isn't selling at all. A successful company of 10 men on the other hand, can have a market capitalization of millions.

That's obvious, I'm pretty sure he knew that. You should be interpreting "big" appropriately. You acknowledged it could mean success, so why didn't you interpret that he meant "big success"?

That's because I give even the worst posters some degree of credit that they understand how to grammatically phrase a sentence. 'Big success' is grammatically correct. But 'X bigger than Y' almost always refers to size.

Like you said in terms of "market capitalization".

The price of stocks do not give a good picture about the real size of a company. If you want to know that, you have to look at a lot more variables.

MarketWatch lists Sony right now at $17.35 billion and Nintendo at $17.15 billion, but still...

Sony is 10x the size of Nintendo in their total assets, yet Sony is so drowned in liabilities that it's remaining equity is getting marginal by the day.

Still, the market cap is basically the total value of the publicly traded stock shares, Nintendo has a lot more value there considering its size, as far as it's profits go though it's pretty much just holding steady and that's about it, probably with the profits on the 3DS being offset by the Wii U. Sony has been bleeding several billion a year for the last several years, and their joke of a profit last year only came about as they liquidated several billion in assets. Nintendo remains in steady shape though, it's liabilities being just a smudge on their balance sheet and don't appear to be going out of control like Sony's, but Sony on the other hand is red inked up the wazoo.

Why is everyone so infatuated with whether the Wii U is a failures or not? Only time will tell.

Nintendo was worth something like $80 billion just a few short years ago.

They might not be in the toilet as far as Sony, but that doesn't mean they can't go down as well.

They've horribly mismanaged their gaming division in the last few years. There's no reason the Wii U should be as unsuccessful as it is, and there's no reason they should have launched it the way they did knowing full well how badly the 3DS launch suffered under very similar conditions.

Market Capitalisation indicates the value of the companies. The data simply indicate that Sony is almost worthless compared to Nintendo, but that doesn't mean Sony isn't bigger. I mean, Valve makes more money than both Nintendo and Sony, but it's a private company with fewer than 400 employees! Valve has one of the highest wealth per capita in the gaming industry.

lol.
Another joke thread

Good joke.......lolol.Nintendo............lol

Lol.

They "want" Nintendo to go third party, that's why.

Aw, look, all poor cows can do is 'lol' in the face of facts.

@charizard1605: cows are the kings of ignoring reality. Even when Sony's in deep shit it's still "SDC SDC SDC"

Guess Sony are the underdogs...

We already all knew this. They can continue to F up and rehash Mario and Pokemon games for another 10 years before they start to feel the sting. Why you think this is a good thing tho I have no idea.

Mediocre for the next 10 years hurray!

All that matters is Nintendo has been irrelevant to me since the GC came out.

XBox is quickly becoming that way as well.

I don't think it matters how big Nintendo is or how big Nintendo is considered at this point, they will end up in a hole they can never get out of if they do not make changes. To me it is not about how big a company is, but rather about making the right choices and taking action to feedback in a timely manner instead of ignoring it and wasting time they had. There are things that have yet to be delivered that many have complained about through the Internet regarding the Wii U and there are mistakes Nintendo has made in the past generations, that they should not continue to keep making, but instead learn from. From what I have read, the Nintendo 64 did not have much third party support and this went on in some way after generation after generation; this should be something that should have been fixed or focused on improving, not ignoring.

I see no reason to care about how big Nintendo is, when they keep making the same mistakes and not learning from them.