Nintendo is hardcore!

http://wii.ign.com/articles/121/1215214p1.html

That link leads to IGN's article detailing a list of memorable Nintendo ads. Now I want you to watch this video in the following link and tell me the Wii was not a change of pace for Nintendo? Any company that had slogans like "Now you are playing with power" or "Get N or get out", obviously was once upon a time a company focused on tech and the core gamer. Not saying all hope is lost, as the Wii had some pretty good games, but more importantly, they seem to be bringing it back with the 3DS. Here is to hoping the WiiU is awesome with tons of great core games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCsTz5EdnRU&feature=player_embedded

Hardcore at failing the consumer, yes? They lost their way since the GC.Banjo_Kongfooie

Fail troll is fail

yea back in the snes nes games were hard as heck...they were hardcore by default..

yea back in the snes nes games were hard as heck...they were hardcore by default..

KBFloYd

"Hardcore" gamers naw ar too stupid

They like stuff like Gears, and CoD

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Hardcore at failing the consumer, yes? They lost their way since the GC.WreckEm711

Fail troll is fail

How is that "trol"

They failed the consumer... Are you going to tell me the Wii is better than the GC or N64.

The Wii had great games but pitiful third party support.

The Wii U has a very uncomfortable looking controller. The only thing Nintendo recently did right was lower the 3DS's price and localize Xenoblade.

Anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't played many of their games.

Lol I change the topic title and BAM! "A new troll approaches!" :lol:

Seriously though, I loved that attitude Nintendo used to have. "Get N or get out!" how awesome is that!? With that said, they had some pretty great commercials with Other M and Skyward Sword.

yea back in the snes nes games were hard as heck...they were hardcore by default..

KBFloYd

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Hardcore at failing the consumer, yes? They lost their way since the GC.Banjo_Kongfooie

Fail troll is fail

How is that "trol"

They failed the consumer... Are you going to tell me the Wii is better than the GC or N64.

The Wii had great games but pitiful third party support.

The Wii U has a very uncomfortable looking controller. The only thing Nintendo recently did right was lower the 3DS's price and localize Xenoblade.

Third party games can't compete against the big N

You haven't even touched a UPad, so how would you know

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Hardcore at failing the consumer, yes? They lost their way since the GC.Banjo_Kongfooie

Fail troll is fail

How is that "trol"

They failed the consumer... Are you going to tell me the Wii is better than the GC or N64.

The Wii had great games but pitiful third party support.

The Wii U has a very uncomfortable looking controller. The only thing Nintendo recently did right was lower the 3DS's price and localize Xenoblade.

Yes, the wii is far better than the GCN, far more exclusives, in fact the wii has more highly rated exclusives than BOTH the PS3 and 360. N64 is subjective, it was another great console.

Third party has nothing to do with nintendo "losing their way," they pumped out a ton of fantastic games this gen.

Uncomfortable LOOKING controller? Until you've held it, suck your own tongue, everyone who's ACTUALLY held it says it feels great, and Nintendo ALWAYS has ergonomic controller ;)

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Hardcore at failing the consumer, yes? They lost their way since the GC.pppjjj

How much fail is it to defend a company that is holding back and arguably harming the video game industry?

Nintendo used to try with technology but has become a shell of their former selves.

[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

yea back in the snes nes games were hard as heck...they were hardcore by default..

PSP107

N64 > SNES > GC > Wii > NES

NES loses by default, cause its too darn old and cannot display a good world for games like Zelda and Metroid :P.

[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

yea back in the snes nes games were hard as heck...they were hardcore by default..

PSP107

in terms of hardcore...

Third party games can't compete against the big N

You haven't even touched a UPad, so how would you know

GreenFalcon5267

This is the theology that lets Nintendo get away with making terrible hardware.

The N64 and GC were not perfect for third party software but they had it in addition to amazing games.

Nintendo are not the holygrail of video game developers. Retro and Rare were great for the GC, N64. Many games are better than first party titles they push out, stop lionizing them.

SMG was amazing but are you saying Kirby for the Wii is a crowning achievement in game design?

[QUOTE="pppjjj"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Hardcore at failing the consumer, yes? They lost their way since the GC.Banjo_Kongfooie

How much fail is it to defend a company that is holding back and arguably harming the video game industry?

Nintendo used to try with technology but has become a shell of their former selves.

They used to focus more on the hardcore, yes. But they've actually made some incredible "hardcore" content for the Wii. I mean, yeah, the system lacks multiplats and focus' a lot on the casual gamer but it still has some really great exclusives.Meinhard1

This, sadly according to Nintendo apologists they will claim the Wii is the pinnacle of video game consoles...

[QUOTE="pppjjj"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Hardcore at failing the consumer, yes? They lost their way since the GC.Banjo_Kongfooie

How much fail is it to defend a company that is holding back and arguably harming the video game industry?

Nintendo used to try with technology but has become a shell of their former selves.

[QUOTE="GreenFalcon5267"]

Third party games can't compete against the big N

You haven't even touched a UPad, so how would you know

Banjo_Kongfooie

This is the theology that lets Nintendo get away with making terrible hardware.

The N64 and GC were not perfect for third party software but they had it in addition to amazing games.

Nintendo are not the holygrail of video game developers. Retro and Rare were great for the GC, N64. Many games are better than first party titles they push out, stop lionizing them.

SMG was amazing but are you saying Kirby for the Wii is a crowning achievement in game design?

ORly

Then why didn't RARE work for Microsoft

Nintendo is hardcore! NaveedLife

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"] Nintendo is hardcore! AmazonTreeBoa

Did you even read my thread or watch any videos? :(

[QUOTE="PSP107"]

[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

yea back in the snes nes games were hard as heck...they were hardcore by default..

KBFloYd

in terms of hardcore...

[QUOTE="pppjjj"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Hardcore at failing the consumer, yes? They lost their way since the GC.Banjo_Kongfooie

How much fail is it to defend a company that is holding back and arguably harming the video game industry?

Nintendo used to try with technology but has become a shell of their former selves.

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

[QUOTE="GreenFalcon5267"]

Third party games can't compete against the big N

You haven't even touched a UPad, so how would you know

GreenFalcon5267

This is the theology that lets Nintendo get away with making terrible hardware.

The N64 and GC were not perfect for third party software but they had it in addition to amazing games.

Nintendo are not the holygrail of video game developers. Retro and Rare were great for the GC, N64. Many games are better than first party titles they push out, stop lionizing them.

SMG was amazing but are you saying Kirby for the Wii is a crowning achievement in game design?

ORly

Then why didn't RARE work for Microsoft

Microsoft was not in console gaming... Nintendo treated Rare like **** in the N64 and GC days do a google search. Nintendo caused alot of the staff to leave so when Microsoft bought Rare they did not get the same company.

Examples of 2nd party and 3rd party games outdoing Nintendo games.

Banjo Kazooie > Mario 64 so hard they canceled the sequel.

Dinosaur Planet was looking to outdo Ocarina of Time so Miyamoto shoehorned Starfox into it to make Rare push the game back to the GC as Starfox adventures

Diddykong Racing > Mario Kart 64.

Gamecube :

Eternal Darkness 2nd party

Resident Evil 4 3rd party

Metroid Prime 2nd party

Tales of Symphonia 3rd party

Nintendo are the holygrail of software developers though right?

[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

[QUOTE="PSP107"] NES/SNES>>>>>>> N64/GC/Wii

PSP107

in terms of hardcore...

OoT/MM/PD/GE/SM64/MK64/PM/SSB > Any other lineup of Nintendo games :P

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="NaveedLife"] Nintendo is hardcore! NaveedLife

Did you even read my thread or watch any videos? :(

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"] :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:AmazonTreeBoa

Did you even read my thread or watch any videos? :(

yet you were able to hold yourself together to post..twice....bravo!

Hardcore at failing the consumer, yes? They lost their way since the GC.Banjo_Kongfooie

Banjo Kart 360 fails you lemming

[QUOTE="GreenFalcon5267"]

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

This is the theology that lets Nintendo get away with making terrible hardware.

The N64 and GC were not perfect for third party software but they had it in addition to amazing games.

Nintendo are not the holygrail of video game developers. Retro and Rare were great for the GC, N64. Many games are better than first party titles they push out, stop lionizing them.

SMG was amazing but are you saying Kirby for the Wii is a crowning achievement in game design?

Banjo_Kongfooie

ORly

Then why didn't RARE work for Microsoft

Microsoft was not in console gaming... Nintendo treated Rare like **** in the N64 and GC days do a google search. Nintendo caused alot of the staff to leave so when Microsoft bought Rare they did not get the same company.

Examples of 2nd party and 3rd party games outdoing Nintendo games.

Banjo Kazooie > Mario 64 so hard they canceled the sequel.

Dinosaur Planet was looking to outdo Ocarina of Time so Miyamoto shoehorned Starfox into it to make Rare push the game back to the GC as Starfox adventures

Man I do miss the good ole "hardcore" days, I think N64 was truly the last system I mostly enjoyed but not sure if it was because I was younger and had more time or the quality of gaming was just top notch back then. I'm hoping they can bring that back with Wii U, I'm tired of 1st parties becoming easier and easier to beat.

[QUOTE="GreenFalcon5267"]

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

This is the theology that lets Nintendo get away with making terrible hardware.

The N64 and GC were not perfect for third party software but they had it in addition to amazing games.

Nintendo are not the holygrail of video game developers. Retro and Rare were great for the GC, N64. Many games are better than first party titles they push out, stop lionizing them.

SMG was amazing but are you saying Kirby for the Wii is a crowning achievement in game design?

Banjo_Kongfooie

ORly

Then why didn't RARE work for Microsoft

Microsoft was not in console gaming... Nintendo treated Rare like **** in the N64 and GC days do a google search. Nintendo caused alot of the staff to leave so when Microsoft bought Rare they did not get the same company.

Examples of 2nd party and 3rd party games outdoing Nintendo games.

Banjo Kazooie > Mario 64 so hard they canceled the sequel.

Dinosaur Planet was looking to outdo Ocarina of Time so Miyamoto shoehorned Starfox into it to make Rare push the game back to the GC as Starfox adventures

Diddykong Racing > Mario Kart 64.

Gamecube :

Eternal Darkness 2nd party

Resident Evil 4 3rd party

Metroid Prime 2nd party

Tales of Symphonia 3rd party

Nintendo are the holygrail of software developers though right?

A company must know how to manage there 2nd and 3rd party developers, specially if there IPs are being used or otherwise they get screwed (Metroid Other M, I still liked it jiji). Ofcourse you will get some trash games but seariously, would capcom, square, blizzard... etc. be able to put a console on the market and keep it alive with ther IPs like Nintendo does. I don't think so

Is this a joke? Banjo Kazooie and Starfox Adventures don't come anywhere near the critical acclaim that Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time got.

Jag85

Banjo Kazooie was much better than Super Mario 64 (which was an amazing game).

Ocarina of Time is better than Starfox Adventures because Starfox Adventures was the product of a Miyamoto jealous and scared that Dinosaur Planet would outdo his critically acclaimed Ocarina of Time, a Miyamoto who feels that Nintendo IPs are so grand a game needs them for success, or some other reason Miyamoto had.

Watching bits of Dinosaur Planet N64 it had a pretty good chance of outdoing OoT.

[QUOTE="pppjjj"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Hardcore at failing the consumer, yes? They lost their way since the GC.Banjo_Kongfooie

How much fail is it to defend a company that is holding back and arguably harming the video game industry?

Nintendo used to try with technology but has become a shell of their former selves.

[QUOTE="Jag85"]

Is this a joke? Banjo Kazooie and Starfox Adventures don't come anywhere near the critical acclaim that Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time got.

Banjo_Kongfooie

Banjo Kazooie was much better than Super Mario 64 (which was an amazing game).

Ocarina of Time is better than Starfox Adventures because Starfox Adventures was the product of a Miyamoto jealous and scared that Dinosaur Planet would outdo his critically acclaimed Ocarina of Time, a Miyamoto who feels that Nintendo IPs are so grand a game needs them for success, or some other reason Miyamoto had.

Watching bits of Dinosaur Planet N64 it had a pretty good chance of outdoing OoT.

Hard=/= Hardcore.dr-professional

umm yes it does..

its even in the word...cmon!!

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"] :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:AmazonTreeBoa

Did you even read my thread or watch any videos? :(

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

[QUOTE="Jag85"]

Is this a joke? Banjo Kazooie and Starfox Adventures don't come anywhere near the critical acclaim that Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time got.

Jag85

Banjo Kazooie was much better than Super Mario 64 (which was an amazing game).

Ocarina of Time is better than Starfox Adventures because Starfox Adventures was the product of a Miyamoto jealous and scared that Dinosaur Planet would outdo his critically acclaimed Ocarina of Time, a Miyamoto who feels that Nintendo IPs are so grand a game needs them for success, or some other reason Miyamoto had.

Watching bits of Dinosaur Planet N64 it had a pretty good chance of outdoing OoT.

Ummmm Banjo Kazooie is rated higher on Gamespot than Super Mario 64...

Dinosaur Planet was not just a change of mascot character they added aton of **** that would not have been in their and the game would have been better as Dinosaur Planet judging by the gameplay.

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

[QUOTE="GreenFalcon5267"]

Did you even read my thread or watch any videos? :(

Jag85

[QUOTE="Jag85"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

Banjo Kazooie was much better than Super Mario 64 (which was an amazing game).

Ocarina of Time is better than Starfox Adventures because Starfox Adventures was the product of a Miyamoto jealous and scared that Dinosaur Planet would outdo his critically acclaimed Ocarina of Time, a Miyamoto who feels that Nintendo IPs are so grand a game needs them for success, or some other reason Miyamoto had.

Watching bits of Dinosaur Planet N64 it had a pretty good chance of outdoing OoT.

Banjo_Kongfooie

Ummmm Banjo Kazooie is rated higher on Gamespot than Super Mario 64...

Dinosaur Planet was not just a change of mascot character they added aton of **** that would not have been in their and the game would have been better as Dinosaur Planet judging by the gameplay.

[QUOTE="Jag85"]

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"] No. I couldn't get past the title without falling on the floor laughing.dr-professional

Nintendo isn't hardcore. Hardcore gamers suck.

[QUOTE="dr-professional"][QUOTE="Jag85"] So you're insinuating Nintendo isn't hardcore? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:charizard1605

[QUOTE="dr-professional"][QUOTE="Jag85"] So you're insinuating Nintendo isn't hardcore? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:charizard1605

Good to see you Char !

Man Banjo, all this talk about Star Fox being incorporated into Dinosaur Planet makes me mad. I did not like the new direction of Star Fox with that game at all.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

[QUOTE="dr-professional"] Although I do not agree with his context, his point is correct, how is Nintendo Hardcore at the moment?babycakin

Good to see you Char !

Man Banjo, all this talk about Star Fox being incorporated into Dinosaur Planet makes me mad. I did not like the new direction of Star Fox with that game at all.

Well your laughing at some random guy about it so I just assumed you had a response to my questions. So what's the hardcore. Just want to know what they did that was hardcore this gen, but mostly currently withing the last 2-3 years. Nintendo themselves not third parties.dr-professional