nintendo is holding back ssbb n mariokart to face ff13 n mgs4 n halo wars

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#1 x-bot2007
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Its so obvious; look at what they did wit mp3 and smg. They did that all to face cod4, halo3, rac tod, heavonly sword, assain creed and alot of goty games or AAA games

They will do it again

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#2 BubbyJello
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Maybe
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They held it off due to the low amount of Wii's available in stores and low copies of SSBB

SSBB = System Seller -- Nintendo can gain a lot more sales (even though it doesnt need it) when they release SSBB

At least, this is my belief
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Its so obvious; look at what they did wit mp3 and smg. They did that all to face cod4, halo3, rac rod, heavonly sword, assain creed and alot of goty games or AAA games

They will do it again

x-bot2007

Halo wars? I think KZ2,MGS and Fable or something would have been better choices. But I don't agree with you. Wii has a different market than 360/ps3 they basically don't need to whole back things when they are the front runner.

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#5 Vanadium2k8
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MGS and Halo Wars are ignorable.

FFXIII and GTAIV are competition though.

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#6 X_Evo
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Its so obvious; look at what they did wit mp3 and smg. They did that all to face cod4, halo3, rac rod, heavonly sword, assain creed and alot of goty games or AAA games

They will do it again

x-bot2007

Do you actually believe anything you just posted? :lol: Heavenly sword, and assassins creed really? I could agree with Halo though.

Edit: also god learn how to use spell check.

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SSBB is coming out in April or March isn't it? What game are they going to go up against then?
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#8 TalesofRaGnArOk
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In the Iwata talks segment they just did with Sakurai, they said that they didn't actually start working on Brawl until like a month after it was announced because everyone was confused about it being real or not.

Plus, no one is currently very happy with the roster, and I HOPE that they don't release it as is now if they can improve it in a month.

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SSBB is coming out in April or March isn't it? What game are they going to go up against then?Bgrngod

When does GTAIV come out?

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SSBB is coming out in April or March isn't it? What game are they going to go up against then?Bgrngod
GTA4?
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#11 John-08
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mabye they just need to work on them i dnt know
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Nive theory..i like they cant keep a deadline to save themselves.
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Even though FF13 is over a year away?
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#14 x-bot2007
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maybe some of the games i said were wrong but they'll hold ssbb and mario kart back so then people wont only be buying ff13 or kz2 or mgs4

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#15 Vanadium2k8
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Even though FF13 is over a year away?TTDog

Animal Crossing is Q4 2008 in Japan, it could compete with Final Fantasy.

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MGS and Halo Wars are ignorable.

FFXIII and GTAIV are competition though.

Vanadium2k8

MGS is ignorable?

SSB outsold all MGS games, but both MGS and MGS2 outsold SSBM, so how is it no competition this time around?

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maybe some of the games i said were wrong but they'll hold ssbb and mario kart back so then people wont only be buying ff13 or kz2 or mgs4

x-bot2007

WHY DOES KILLZONE 2 ALWAYS GET THROWN INTO THE LIST?

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#18 Vanadium2k8
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[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"]

MGS and Halo Wars are ignorable.

FFXIII and GTAIV are competition though.

NielsNL

MGS is ignorable?

SSB outsold all MGS games, but both MGS and MGS2 outsold SSBM, so how is it no competition this time around?

SSB sold less than SSBM, so your logic doesn't make sense.

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[QUOTE="Bgrngod"]SSBB is coming out in April or March isn't it? What game are they going to go up against then?Jandurin
GTA4?

I have a hunch that will get smacked back to at least August.

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#20 BreakingPoint8
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[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"]

MGS and Halo Wars are ignorable.

FFXIII and GTAIV are competition though.

NielsNL

MGS is ignorable?

SSB outsold all MGS games, but both MGS and MGS2 outsold SSBM, so how is it no competition this time around?

Metal Gear Solid isn't as big as other franchises, Halo, Grand Theft Auto and Need for Speed totally stole it's buzz in 2004, which is why MGS3 didn't sell anywhere near as well as MGS1 and 2.
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#21 NielsNL
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"][QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"]

MGS and Halo Wars are ignorable.

FFXIII and GTAIV are competition though.

Vanadium2k8

MGS is ignorable?

SSB outsold all MGS games, but both MGS and MGS2 outsold SSBM, so how is it no competition this time around?

SSB sold less than SSBM, so your logic doesn't make sense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_selling_videogames

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[QUOTE="NielsNL"][QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"]

MGS and Halo Wars are ignorable.

FFXIII and GTAIV are competition though.

BreakingPoint8

MGS is ignorable?

SSB outsold all MGS games, but both MGS and MGS2 outsold SSBM, so how is it no competition this time around?

Metal Gear Solid isn't as big as other franchises, Halo, Grand Theft Auto and Need for Speed totally stole it's buzz in 2004, which is why MGS3 didn't sell anywhere near as well as MGS1 and 2.

This MGS iteration will be released at a more suitable moment than MGS3. Aside from that the first iteration of a popular IP on a certain console usually seems to sell better.

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#23 X_Evo
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[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"][QUOTE="NielsNL"][QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"]

MGS and Halo Wars are ignorable.

FFXIII and GTAIV are competition though.

NielsNL

MGS is ignorable?

SSB outsold all MGS games, but both MGS and MGS2 outsold SSBM, so how is it no competition this time around?

SSB sold less than SSBM, so your logic doesn't make sense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_selling_videogames

Could go on to say SSB and SSBM outsold MGS3 .. logic fails?

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[QUOTE="BreakingPoint8"][QUOTE="NielsNL"][QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"]

MGS and Halo Wars are ignorable.

FFXIII and GTAIV are competition though.

NielsNL

MGS is ignorable?

SSB outsold all MGS games, but both MGS and MGS2 outsold SSBM, so how is it no competition this time around?

Metal Gear Solid isn't as big as other franchises, Halo, Grand Theft Auto and Need for Speed totally stole it's buzz in 2004, which is why MGS3 didn't sell anywhere near as well as MGS1 and 2.

This MGS iteration will be released at a more suitable moment than MGS3. Aside from that the first iteration of a popular IP on a certain console usually seems to sell better.

You and I both know that depends on how close they release it next to Grand Theft Auto 4. They need to be smart, because it'll be 2004 all over again if they aren't.
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#26 NielsNL
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"][QUOTE="BreakingPoint8"][QUOTE="NielsNL"][QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"]

MGS and Halo Wars are ignorable.

FFXIII and GTAIV are competition though.

BreakingPoint8

MGS is ignorable?

SSB outsold all MGS games, but both MGS and MGS2 outsold SSBM, so how is it no competition this time around?

Metal Gear Solid isn't as big as other franchises, Halo, Grand Theft Auto and Need for Speed totally stole it's buzz in 2004, which is why MGS3 didn't sell anywhere near as well as MGS1 and 2.

This MGS iteration will be released at a more suitable moment than MGS3. Aside from that the first iteration of a popular IP on a certain console usually seems to sell better.

You and I both know that depends on how close they release it next to Grand Theft Auto 4. They need to be smart, because it'll be 2004 all over again if they aren't.

Yeah exactly what I meant. GTA4 will be april and MGS 4 will be june (according to Amazon). Seems like two months apart is enouh for MGS to keep GTA4's wind out of its sails.

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Could go on to say SSB and SSBM outsold MGS3 .. logic fails?

X_Evo

Edited it quickly huh? Talk about failing :lol:

j/k

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_selling_videogames

NielsNL

7 million on PS2's userbase is very ignorable, probably not for the 360, but for the Wii it is.

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#29 X_Evo
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[QUOTE="X_Evo"]

Could go on to say SSB and SSBM outsold MGS3 .. logic fails?

NielsNL

Edited it quickly huh? Talk about failing :lol:

j/k

I edited something that was not part of your quote..

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I dont think nintendo has to worry about competition at this point. Just make something that will sell well in Japan and it will go a million + in a month.
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#31 NielsNL
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_selling_videogames

Vanadium2k8

7 million on PS2's userbase is very ignorable, probably not for the 360, but for the Wii it is.

No game selling 7 million on any system, twice, can be ignored.

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#32 obsolete2k1
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I think they missed a deadline, releasing SSBB at the beginning of March doesn't really compete with a summer and 2009 release.
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#33 Vanadium2k8
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There's also evidence saying that games that were on the PS2 and have their sequel on the PS3, sell less.

Examples:

Dynasty Warriors 4 sold 1.8 million on PS2, 5 sold only 500k on the PS3.

Boku no Natsu Yasumi sold 450k on the PS2, but only 140k on the PS3. (JP)

Hot Shots Golf Fore! sold 1 million on the PS2, HSG5 300k on the PS3. (JP)

Having a smaller userbase does decrease sales, A LOT.

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let me think cauz substance waz an online game and not all people have online for the ps2
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#36 NielsNL
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"][QUOTE="X_Evo"]

Could go on to say SSB and SSBM outsold MGS3 .. logic fails?

X_Evo

Edited it quickly huh? Talk about failing :lol:

j/k

I edited something that was not part of your quote..

'

You stated that according to my link SSBM outsold SSB, which is wrong. And then you quickly edited it out, yet you tell me my logic fails. Aside from that if you read what I've posted earlier in this topic I stated first iterations of games on a console usually sell better. This proved true for MGS and MGS2 and MGS3 indeed sold less. However MGS 4 is the first on a new console again. Nothing wrong with that logic now is there? Aside from that you could of course say that it's just guessing what I'm doing and you'd be right. We all don't own a crystal ball that tells us exactly how much any game will be selling.

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Why do people think halo wars is going to be a huge hit ? I can see this game being bought by the hardcore RTS enthusiast.

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all should know not to use wikipedia to back up ur thoughts people can edited what ur saying to be false so use gamerankings instead
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all should know not to use wikipedia to back up ur thoughts people can edited what ur saying to be false so use gamerankings insteadx-bot2007

Can you fin sales on gamerankings? (I never look at the site)

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[QUOTE="X_Evo"][QUOTE="NielsNL"][QUOTE="X_Evo"]

Could go on to say SSB and SSBM outsold MGS3 .. logic fails?

NielsNL

Edited it quickly huh? Talk about failing :lol:

j/k

I edited something that was not part of your quote..

'

You stated that according to my link SSBM outsold SSB, which is wrong. And then you quickly edited it out, yet you tell me my logic fails. Aside from that if you read what I've posted earlier in this topic I stated first iterations of games on a console usually sell better. This proved true for MGS and MGS2 and MGS3 indeed sold less. However MGS 4 is the first on a new console again. Nothing wrong with that logic now is there? Aside from that you could of course say that it's just guessing what I'm doing and you'd be right. We all don't own a crystal ball that tells us exactly how much any game will be selling.

Wait what? SSBM sold 6 million SSB sold 4.8 million how was I wrong? I edited my post because it did not need to be there. If anything it shows each SSB game getting more popular unlike MGS you can spin it all you want but when half the fanbase of MGS/MGS2 don't buy the third game that tells us something plus considering 100 million PS2 were sold at the time and only what? 8 - 9 million PS3 have been sold MGS4 will not pass MGS3 sales any time soon imo.

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[QUOTE="x-bot2007"] all should know not to use wikipedia to back up ur thoughts people can edited what ur saying to be false so use gamerankings insteadNielsNL

Can you fin sales on gamerankings? (I never look at the site)

yea you can
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#42 NielsNL
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Wait what? SSBM sold 6 million SSB sold 4.8 million how was I wrong? I edited my post because it did not need to be there. If anything it shows each SSB game getting more popular unlike MGS you can spin it all you want but when Half the fans of MGS/MGS2 don't buy the third game that tells us something plus considering 100 million PS2 were sold at the time and only what? 8 - 9 million PS3 have been sold MGS4 will not pass MGS3 sales any time soon imo.

X_Evo

Ouch ouch. You're right, I didn't look good. I added the 4,89 to the 1.97 and the 2.92 thinking it was European, American and Japan sales. My bad! Guess I'm oing to be sitting quitly in a corner for a while :oops:

But that does mean that both MGS and MGS 2 outsold both SSB and SSBM while still some people in this thread claim MGS is no competition for SSBM in terms of sales. There you have failed logic.