Nintendo is not in competition with either Sony or Microsoft for this gen.

Okay I've been seeing a lot of Wii fanboy posts with Wii is this, Wii is that, it's selling, it's great, it's destory PS3, it'll destroy 360, Blah blah blah. I just wanna clear something up for all the Wii fans out there. The Wii is a great system but it is not a true next gen system, I own a Wii and I can tell you that 90 percent of the people I know who own Wiis either have or plan on having an second graphically intense next gen console to compliment the Wii. In other words because of the low Wii price tag and the graphical deficiency the Wii has become a bit of a side system that everyone wants.

I other words I believe that everyone who owns a Wii will at one point of another buy a 360 or a PS3 for more graphically intensive games. Thus the Wii is a in a special position, for the first time ever in a console war a system has managed to secure fans from both sides of the equation.

Personaly I believe most in Japan will end up buying the PS3 once MGS4 and FFXIII comes out because the Japanese cannot live and work and sleep without there Final Fantasy and Metal Gear.

While more Americans will end up buying a 360 once Halo 3 and Mass Effect comes out, because most American cannot function in daily activities without Halo and other AAA FPS.

Thus this console war will be divided between Wii60s and PS3Wiis, with almost all serious gamers owing both a Wii and another next gen console.

So please stop the Wii boasting threads, it will not destroy anyone. It'll be owned by everyone but it will never become this gens true winner as most true next gen titles will not run on the Wii, but doesn't mean you can't have a lot of fun with it.

I personaly have a PSWii combo, and do not buy any multplats on Wii because of the graphical limitations but will get first party Wii exclusives.  

I agree with you for the most part. but I don't think that so many people buying a Wii will buy another console. sure there will be more than it normally is. But not all people are so spoiled like many seems to be, to afford to have 2 consoles and enough games to justify the console cost.

That's my thoughts. 

Prior to the Wii launch: Wii = phail, tha PS tripple is going to outsell it

After launch: LOL Wii is a gimmick. Sails will drop

Now: Sales didn't drop...uhuh...uhm...uhm think fast: THE WII IS NOT COMPETING!!!111!!!

What's next?

Okay I've been seeing a lot of Wii fanboy posts with Wii is this, Wii is that, it's selling, it's great, it's destory PS3, it'll destroy 360, Blah blah blah. I just wanna clear something up for all the Wii fans out there. The Wii is a great system but it is not a true next gen system, I own a Wii and I can tell you that 90 percent of the people I know who own Wiis either have or plan on having an second graphically intense next gen console to compliment the Wii. In other words because of the low Wii price tag and the graphical deficiency the Wii has become a bit of a side system that everyone wants.

I other words I believe that everyone who owns a Wii will at one point of another buy a 360 or a PS3 for more graphically intensive games. Thus the Wii is a in a special position, for the first time ever in a console war a system has managed to secure fans from both sides of the equation.

Personaly I believe most in Japan will end up buying the PS3 once MGS4 and FFXIII comes out because the Japanese cannot live and work and sleep without there Final Fantasy and Metal Gear.

While more Americans will end up buying a 360 once Halo 3 and Mass Effect comes out, because most American cannot function in daily activities without Halo and other AAA FPS.

Thus this console war will be divided between Wii60s and PS3Wiis, with almost all serious gamers owing both a Wii and another next gen console.

So please stop the Wii boasting threads, it will not destroy anyone. It'll be owned by everyone but it will never become this gens true winner as most true next gen titles will not run on the Wii, but doesn't mean you can't have a lot of fun with it.

I personaly have a PSWii combo, and do not buy any multplats on Wii because of the graphical limitations but will get first party Wii exclusives.

KSD22

The Wii is just so dirt cheap that I think most buying on impulse as a toy not a console. I don't know any serious gamer that thinks the Wii is gonna be their only console. KSD22

admitedly some toys are more practical than others.. but being a toy is not a bad thing

Basic economics would say that the Wii is in competition with the PS3/360.  And making baseless statements that anyone who buys a Wii will also buy another console is complete guess work.  The hardcore gaming market, may buy one or more system depending on each buyer's budget.  But a casual, who buys the wii.  Isnt going to go buy a second or third system.

I agree with you. Nintndo can´t compete with either Sony or Microsoft. Nintendo said that even when they had just unveiled Wii. That was never their intention, however, that doesn´t mean that Wii can´t beat 360 or PS.

Think of this PS will be good in Japan, 360 will be the winner in  America, but in both Japan and America, Wii will sell like crazy, though not being the #1. At the end Wii will get  in global, better results.

The Wii is just so dirt cheap that I think most buying on impulse as a toy not a console. I don't know any serious gamer that thinks the Wii is gonna be their only console. KSD22

I dont think a serious gamer is going to get 1 console 

The Wii games are graphically inferior thus is not next gen in my opinion. Games like Crysis, Stranglehold, R6Vegas, Final Fantasy XIII cannot be runned on Wii hardware. Thus I would say most serious gamers will buy a system that will run these games in conjunction with Wii.

I own a Wii and the games on Wii look horrible compared to my PS3 but thats why I bought a PS3 so I can play games with great graphics. The Wii has great Nintendo franchises. It's priced so low that I can afford it as a second console. Thus it doesn't directly compete.

The Wii games are graphically inferior thus is not next gen in my opinion. Games like Crysis, Stranglehold, R6Vegas, Final Fantasy XIII cannot be runned on Wii hardware. Thus I would say most serious gamers will buy a system that will run these games in conjunction with Wii.

I own a Wii and the games on Wii look horrible compared to my PS3 but thats why I bought a PS3 so I can play games with great graphics. The has great Nintendo franchises. It's priced so low that I can afford it as a second console. Thus it doesn't directly compete.

KSD22

The Wii games are graphically inferior thus is not next gen in my opinion. Games like Crysis, Stranglehold, R6Vegas, Final Fantasy XIII cannot be runned on Wii hardware. Thus I would say most serious gamers will buy a system that will run these games in conjunction with Wii.

I own a Wii and the games on Wii look horrible compared to my PS3 but thats why I bought a PS3 so I can play games with great graphics. The has great Nintendo franchises. It's priced so low that I can afford it as a second console. Thus it doesn't directly compete.

KSD22

You dont understand.  Specs aren't selling the system!  If it was then the PS3 would be blowing away the Wii and in contention for the lead!  The fact that Wii has over 6.5 million units sold in 5 months, and is nearing Microsoft tells you that the Wii is a definite competitor!

[QUOTE="KSD22"]

The Wii games are graphically inferior thus is not next gen in my opinion. Games like Crysis, Stranglehold, R6Vegas, Final Fantasy XIII cannot be runned on Wii hardware. Thus I would say most serious gamers will buy a system that will run these games in conjunction with Wii.

I own a Wii and the games on Wii look horrible compared to my PS3 but thats why I bought a PS3 so I can play games with great graphics. The has great Nintendo franchises. It's priced so low that I can afford it as a second console. Thus it doesn't directly compete.

hiho24

You dont understand. Specs aren't selling the system! If it was then the PS3 would be blowing away the Wii and in contention for the lead! The fact that Wii has over 6.5 million units sold in 5 months, and is nearing Microsoft tells you that the Wii is a definite competitor!

The Wii games are graphically inferior thus is not next gen in my opinion. Games like Crysis, Stranglehold, R6Vegas, Final Fantasy XIII cannot be runned on Wii hardware. Thus I would say most serious gamers will buy a system that will run these games in conjunction with Wii.

I own a Wii and the games on Wii look horrible compared to my PS3 but thats why I bought a PS3 so I can play games with great graphics. The Wii has great Nintendo franchises. It's priced so low that I can afford it as a second console. Thus it doesn't directly compete.

KSD22

Power does not define generation. Or else no one would talk about PS1 vs. N64.

damage control??? lol

 wii is not competing???? give me a break....

what is next gen? only better graphics? could ps2 run ninja gaiden without a downgrade? no. could ps2 run re4 without a downgrade? no. does that mean that ps2 was not in direct competition with the gamecube and xbox? no. ps2 was competing with them and it won despite inferior hardware. wii cant do the same?

fanboys make me sad with their idiotic arguments...

whats worse is that they believe that they actually make sense... 

[QUOTE="hiho24"][QUOTE="KSD22"]

The Wii games are graphically inferior thus is not next gen in my opinion. Games like Crysis, Stranglehold, R6Vegas, Final Fantasy XIII cannot be runned on Wii hardware. Thus I would say most serious gamers will buy a system that will run these games in conjunction with Wii.

I own a Wii and the games on Wii look horrible compared to my PS3 but thats why I bought a PS3 so I can play games with great graphics. The has great Nintendo franchises. It's priced so low that I can afford it as a second console. Thus it doesn't directly compete.

KSD22

You dont understand. Specs aren't selling the system! If it was then the PS3 would be blowing away the Wii and in contention for the lead! The fact that Wii has over 6.5 million units sold in 5 months, and is nearing Microsoft tells you that the Wii is a definite competitor!

The transportation industries are vastly different than the Videogame Industry.  For one.  Cars, and trucks are used for personal transportation.   People use them as part of their life as an everyday thing.  To get to work, school, and leisure.

Motorcycles dont compete because it isnt a primary form of transportation, those who are only interested and licensed to ride them do.

They are in two separate markets.

Videogame consoles, on the other hand, are under one market.  Those who buy a system go to the store and choose between the three.  They all play games and they all do it relatively to the same way.  using some type of controller to control videogames made specifically for that system. 

The Wii is just so dirt cheap that I think most buying on impulse as a toy not a console. I don't know any serious gamer that thinks the Wii is gonna be their only console. KSD22

so you mean that i'm not a serious gamer cuz i'm only owning wii from other consoles??? you forgot the PCWii combo. IN MY OPINION, i dont need PS3 and Xbox360 cuz i have my PC.

The Wii might not be compeating with the 360 or the PS3 (would be even less if it costed $100 they were trying to shoot for) but the strong Wii sales, and relatively weak 360 and PS3 sales says one of two things:

The Wii *is* compeating with them.
Or
The "next-gen" of consoles, the 360 and the PS3 are just not appealing to the masses.  Could mean that people are bored or disintrested in the next wave of consoles.  People certainly aren't snapping them up like hotcakes.

bikes can be considered a competition to cars.... (im not saying your analogy is remotely right but proving you wrong either way)

some people only buy a bike because they dont have money for a car, some people dont buy bikes because they cant ride one.

in some asian countries you see a lot more bikes than cars.... if there were no bikes, no public transportation,etc then they would have to save up for a car.... 

bikes can be considered a competition to cars.... (im not saying your analogy is remotely right but proving you wrong either way)

some people only buy a bike because they dont have money for a car, some people dont buy bikes because they cant ride one.

in some asian countries you see a lot more bikes than cars.... if there were no bikes, no public transportation,etc then they would have to save up for a car.... 

amtentori

I kid I kid 

I think you're overestimating the importance of 'dedicated gamers', people who will buy multiple consoles.

In real terms, and in the majority, the Wii is in direct competition with all the consoles including the PS3 and 360. This is because the majority of consumers won't consider having 2 gaming systems, but just the one.

damage control??? lol

wii is not competing???? give me a break....

 

what is next gen? only better graphics? could ps2 run ninja gaiden without a downgrade? no. could ps2 run re4 without a downgrade? no. does that mean that ps2 was not in direct competition with the gamecube and xbox? no. ps2 was competing with them and it won despite inferior hardware. wii cant do the same?

 

fanboys make me sad with their idiotic arguments...

whats worse is that they believe that they actually make sense...

amtentori

Prior to the Wii launch: Wii = phail, tha PS tripple is going to outsell it

After launch: LOL Wii is a gimmick. Sails will drop

Now: Sales didn't drop...uhuh...uhm...uhm think fast: THE WII IS NOT COMPETING!!!111!!!

What's next?

 

Arsuz

wii not competition huh? well wii is a video game system. and ps3/xbox360 are video games systems so.... what is wii competing with if it's not the other 2 major video game systems?sellcola5x

[QUOTE="Arsuz"]

Prior to the Wii launch: Wii = phail, tha PS tripple is going to outsell it

After launch: LOL Wii is a gimmick. Sails will drop

Now: Sales didn't drop...uhuh...uhm...uhm think fast: THE WII IS NOT COMPETING!!!111!!!

What's next?

 

yoshi-lnex

I agree with you for the most part. but I don't think that so many people buying a Wii will buy another console. sure there will be more than it normally is. But not all people are so spoiled like many seems to be, to afford to have 2 consoles and enough games to justify the console cost.

That's my thoughts.

holgersson1988

It's not a matter of "spoiled". The average gamer is a lot older than he/she used to be. Most of us have jobs and pay for our gaming addiction by working. What is a lot of money to some may be little money to others. I've spent more than what a Wii costs in a night at the bar. Its all how you prioritize, and personally I have no problem dropping money on games because of the great entertainment they provide.

I never said it wasn't a competitor it competes with no one, it simply sells on its own. This maybe a little hard to understand but a motorcycle does not compete with a truck. People who buy motorcycles almost always own a seperate vehicle. The Bike is fun and it sells but it doesn't compete with cars. The Wii is a Bike, it's fun and it sells, but it's not taking sales away from cars. There some things that a truck can do that the Bike can't and vice versa. Horsepower don't sell hardware software does but Wii's software has limitations such as graphics which plays a big part in next gen gaming. The reason games like Stranglehold are not being released on Wii is because of this graphical limit. The Wii is good but it's on it's own playing field and does not directly compete with either the PS3 or 360.
KSD22

This is actually a pretty good analogy, in its own way, and more or less the way I feel about the Wii. No matter how well it sells, it will not impede the momentum of the other consoles. It just doesn't release the type of games I want to play, point blank. If the Wii was the only console on offer, I would stick to PC games because the subject matter is more my **** I'm not anti-Wii, I will probably pick one up at some point, but it could never be my only console, let alone my only outlet for games.

I think many Wii fans are taking this as an attack, but it's not. The Wii is doing good and it wil continue to do good, but so will the other consoles regardless of how well the Wii sells, ppl who were planning on getting a PS3 will still get one and vice versa with 360. The Wii is almost like a seperate product.

P.S I also happen to own a Wii, so I have no qualms with it's success so please lets try to keep this civil. No childish insults 

It's funny when Nintendo said this. Cows and Lims were like "sure whatever you can't escape your ownage like that."

Now here we are a year later... and what's happening... 

Not calling you a fanaboy, but it's really dumb how some of you people change your argument so easily.

Pre Launch: Wii is a gimmick, it will completely fail

After Launch: Wii won't sell, casuals hate the Wii

Now: Casuals love the Wii which means Nintendo will kill teh gaming and is not teh next gen!!!!11!

[QUOTE="KSD22"]

The Wii games are graphically inferior thus is not next gen in my opinion. Games like Crysis, Stranglehold, R6Vegas, Final Fantasy XIII cannot be runned on Wii hardware. Thus I would say most serious gamers will buy a system that will run these games in conjunction with Wii.

I own a Wii and the games on Wii look horrible compared to my PS3 but thats why I bought a PS3 so I can play games with great graphics. The has great Nintendo franchises. It's priced so low that I can afford it as a second console. Thus it doesn't directly compete.

_vacant_

not at all. i hate people with logic like yours. wii is like a GC just now. 360 and PS3 are practically the same in graphics. the gap is

much smaller between the 360 and PS3 and it always will be. the wii will always be way behind. sadly, because i love nintendo.

b xx 

You have said yourself that most people who are gamers will have more than one console.   This is likely to be true, and this is why the Wii is "winning" this gen.   It's obviously in competition with the other two, since it's made by a rival company and appeals to the same market (and then some).   If everyone buys a Wii and then either a PS3 or a 360, then the Wii has to win.   Because the Wii will get one sale for each person, and the 360 and the PS3 will get divided sales between them.   And the main fact is, most non-gamers will not buy two consoles, they will just buy a Wii.   And non-gamers outnumber gamers by a very large amount.

Not calling you a fanaboy, but it's really dumb how some of you people change your argument so easily.

Pre Launch: Wii is a gimmick, it will completely fail

After Launch: Wii won't sell, casuals hate the Wii

Now: Casuals love the Wii which means Nintendo will kill teh gaming and is not teh next gen!!!!11!

glitchgeeman

Okay I've been seeing a lot of Wii fanboy posts with Wii is this, Wii is that, it's selling, it's great, it's destory PS3, it'll destroy 360, Blah blah blah. I just wanna clear something up for all the Wii fans out there. The Wii is a great system but it is not a true next gen system, I own a Wii and I can tell you that 90 percent of the people I know who own Wiis either have or plan on having an second graphically intense next gen console to compliment the Wii. In other words because of the low Wii price tag and the graphical deficiency the Wii has become a bit of a side system that everyone wants.

I other words I believe that everyone who owns a Wii will at one point of another buy a 360 or a PS3 for more graphically intensive games. Thus the Wii is a in a special position, for the first time ever in a console war a system has managed to secure fans from both sides of the equation.

Personaly I believe most in Japan will end up buying the PS3 once MGS4 and FFXIII comes out because the Japanese cannot live and work and sleep without there Final Fantasy and Metal Gear.

While more Americans will end up buying a 360 once Halo 3 and Mass Effect comes out, because most American cannot function in daily activities without Halo and other AAA FPS.

Thus this console war will be divided between Wii60s and PS3Wiis, with almost all serious gamers owing both a Wii and another next gen console.

So please stop the Wii boasting threads, it will not destroy anyone. It'll be owned by everyone but it will never become this gens true winner as most true next gen titles will not run on the Wii, but doesn't mean you can't have a lot of fun with it.

I personaly have a PSWii combo, and do not buy any multplats on Wii because of the graphical limitations but will get first party Wii exclusives.

KSD22

 I like playing the wii. with a few more games, that i could easily get. and my PC will be collecting dust.. lol. I love consoles. Yea wii has inferior graphics. But what if it was competing with SONY and M$... i mean... It would STILL blow them away. 

The Wii games are graphically inferior thus is not next gen in my opinion. Games like Crysis, Stranglehold, R6Vegas, Final Fantasy XIII cannot be runned on Wii hardware. Thus I would say most serious gamers will buy a system that will run these games in conjunction with Wii.

I own a Wii and the games on Wii look horrible compared to my PS3 but thats why I bought a PS3 so I can play games with great graphics. The Wii has great Nintendo franchises. It's priced so low that I can afford it as a second console. Thus it doesn't directly compete.

KSD22

I don't think anyone at this point considers graphical leaping as the only marker of the generation. One could say the PS3 and 360 aren't next-gen because they still use old-gaming pads instead of motion-point. You aren't really doing a good job backing up your assumptions. People who say the Wii isn't competing or next-gen are the same who said the DS and the PSP arent in competition. Nintendo might be trying to win praise by saying it, but we all know better.

I think Wii is in a league of its own. If it was competing with PS3 and 360, it would be HD and HDD capable.

Wii is just a system that gives gamers a break from the normal, which is pretty nice. 

[QUOTE="KSD22"]

The Wii games are graphically inferior thus is not next gen in my opinion. Games like Crysis, Stranglehold, R6Vegas, Final Fantasy XIII cannot be runned on Wii hardware. Thus I would say most serious gamers will buy a system that will run these games in conjunction with Wii.

I own a Wii and the games on Wii look horrible compared to my PS3 but thats why I bought a PS3 so I can play games with great graphics. The Wii has great Nintendo franchises. It's priced so low that I can afford it as a second console. Thus it doesn't directly compete.

Alunanite

I don't think anyone at this point considers graphical leaping as the only marker of the generation. One could say the PS3 and 360 aren't next-gen because they still use old-gaming pads instead of motion-point. You aren't really doing a good job backing up your assumptions. People who say the Wii isn't competing or next-gen are the same who said the DS and the PSP arent in competition. Nintendo might be trying to win praise by saying it, but we all know better.

Only an ignorant mind would see the lack of competition as a bad thing. When you have no one compete with you, you automatically win.

Okay I've been seeing a lot of Wii fanboy posts with Wii is this, Wii is that, it's selling, it's great, it's destory PS3, it'll destroy 360, Blah blah blah. I just wanna clear something up for all the Wii fans out there. The Wii is a great system but it is not a true next gen system, I own a Wii and I can tell you that 90 percent of the people I know who own Wiis either have or plan on having an second graphically intense next gen console to compliment the Wii. In other words because of the low Wii price tag and the graphical deficiency the Wii has become a bit of a side system that everyone wants.

I other words I believe that everyone who owns a Wii will at one point of another buy a 360 or a PS3 for more graphically intensive games. Thus the Wii is a in a special position, for the first time ever in a console war a system has managed to secure fans from both sides of the equation.

Personaly I believe most in Japan will end up buying the PS3 once MGS4 and FFXIII comes out because the Japanese cannot live and work and sleep without there Final Fantasy and Metal Gear.

While more Americans will end up buying a 360 once Halo 3 and Mass Effect comes out, because most American cannot function in daily activities without Halo and other AAA FPS.

Thus this console war will be divided between Wii60s and PS3Wiis, with almost all serious gamers owing both a Wii and another next gen console.

So please stop the Wii boasting threads, it will not destroy anyone. It'll be owned by everyone but it will never become this gens true winner as most true next gen titles will not run on the Wii, but doesn't mean you can't have a lot of fun with it.

I personaly have a PSWii combo, and do not buy any multplats on Wii because of the graphical limitations but will get first party Wii exclusives.  

KSD22

[QUOTE="Alunanite"][QUOTE="KSD22"]

The Wii games are graphically inferior thus is not next gen in my opinion. Games like Crysis, Stranglehold, R6Vegas, Final Fantasy XIII cannot be runned on Wii hardware. Thus I would say most serious gamers will buy a system that will run these games in conjunction with Wii.

I own a Wii and the games on Wii look horrible compared to my PS3 but thats why I bought a PS3 so I can play games with great graphics. The Wii has great Nintendo franchises. It's priced so low that I can afford it as a second console. Thus it doesn't directly compete.

KSD22

I don't think anyone at this point considers graphical leaping as the only marker of the generation. One could say the PS3 and 360 aren't next-gen because they still use old-gaming pads instead of motion-point. You aren't really doing a good job backing up your assumptions. People who say the Wii isn't competing or next-gen are the same who said the DS and the PSP arent in competition. Nintendo might be trying to win praise by saying it, but we all know better.

Only an ignorant mind would see the lack of competition as a bad thing. When you have no one compete with you, you automatically win.  

The Wii is in the same arena as plug and play consoles of those sorts, as they use wireless gaming/motion sensor gaming with graphics that are old tech. I mean just because the they dont have the same physics or graphics as the ps3/360, why should they be discounted from the next gen race. The Wii is doing the same exact thing.

 The Wii is not only not a next gen console because of last gen graphics, but because it is using last gen PHYSICS.

[QUOTE="KSD22"]

Okay I've been seeing a lot of Wii fanboy posts with Wii is this, Wii is that, it's selling, it's great, it's destory PS3, it'll destroy 360, Blah blah blah. I just wanna clear something up for all the Wii fans out there. The Wii is a great system but it is not a true next gen system, I own a Wii and I can tell you that 90 percent of the people I know who own Wiis either have or plan on having an second graphically intense next gen console to compliment the Wii. In other words because of the low Wii price tag and the graphical deficiency the Wii has become a bit of a side system that everyone wants.

I other words I believe that everyone who owns a Wii will at one point of another buy a 360 or a PS3 for more graphically intensive games. Thus the Wii is a in a special position, for the first time ever in a console war a system has managed to secure fans from both sides of the equation.

Personaly I believe most in Japan will end up buying the PS3 once MGS4 and FFXIII comes out because the Japanese cannot live and work and sleep without there Final Fantasy and Metal Gear.

While more Americans will end up buying a 360 once Halo 3 and Mass Effect comes out, because most American cannot function in daily activities without Halo and other AAA FPS.

Thus this console war will be divided between Wii60s and PS3Wiis, with almost all serious gamers owing both a Wii and another next gen console.

So please stop the Wii boasting threads, it will not destroy anyone. It'll be owned by everyone but it will never become this gens true winner as most true next gen titles will not run on the Wii, but doesn't mean you can't have a lot of fun with it.

I personaly have a PSWii combo, and do not buy any multplats on Wii because of the graphical limitations but will get first party Wii exclusives.

nintendo-4life

[QUOTE="KSD22"][QUOTE="Alunanite"][QUOTE="KSD22"]

The Wii games are graphically inferior thus is not next gen in my opinion. Games like Crysis, Stranglehold, R6Vegas, Final Fantasy XIII cannot be runned on Wii hardware. Thus I would say most serious gamers will buy a system that will run these games in conjunction with Wii.

I own a Wii and the games on Wii look horrible compared to my PS3 but thats why I bought a PS3 so I can play games with great graphics. The Wii has great Nintendo franchises. It's priced so low that I can afford it as a second console. Thus it doesn't directly compete.

nintendo-4life

I don't think anyone at this point considers graphical leaping as the only marker of the generation. One could say the PS3 and 360 aren't next-gen because they still use old-gaming pads instead of motion-point. You aren't really doing a good job backing up your assumptions. People who say the Wii isn't competing or next-gen are the same who said the DS and the PSP arent in competition. Nintendo might be trying to win praise by saying it, but we all know better.

Only an ignorant mind would see the lack of competition as a bad thing. When you have no one compete with you, you automatically win.