Nintendo is single-handedly getting rid of most bad PR games usually receive.

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#1 the-very-best
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We all know the "GTA/Halo is too violent", "GOW is too brutal", "Burnout teaches kids to drive fast" rubbish that the media discussed all throughout last gen, which didn't stop the PS2 from selling 110 million consoles.

Now all the media talk about is how great Wii is for gaming:

  • Wii is all about fun.
  • Nintendo make a comeback with family friendly Wii.
  • Wii is fun for all ages.

The market for games like GOW, GTA, Halo etc are not going to disappear but the Wii being in the market has changed the general public's view of gaming for the better. Bringing new people into the market is a great thing as it encourages more and more devs to jump in, which means a greater potential of high quality games in the future.

If you don't like the Wii that's cool, but it's done great things already, and hasn't even been out a year. The market for Sony/MS's games aren't going to disappear, but Nintendo has single-handedly gotten rid of all the bad PR games usually receive, which invites more people to enter the market, which stimulates the market further, which is good for everyone.

What do you guys think?

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#2 Hippostrike
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Thats a great thing. Although certain games will always have bad press.
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It's only a matter of time before Jack Thompson comes up and sues because the Wii is causing people to do violent things, not just the kids, but older/casual gamers too
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#4 the-very-best
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Thats a great thing. Although certain games will always have bad press.Hippostrike

True, but besides Resistance and that whole church scandal, all talk has been focused on the Wii from the press. I mean, sure GTA is going to get attacked like crazy when it's released later this year but Wii will probably take the spotlight once again when Nintendo dominate sales later on this year, so the negative media will be overshadowed.

And people who were holding back can now get into gaming.

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#5 PhoebusFlows
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You can like it, but it's not my type of system anymore. I already could tell Nintendo is moving in a different direction with their games that isnt my cup of tea
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#6 thriteenthmonke
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I don't know about that, Manhunt 2 is still recieving some negative PR

But I think that the Wii is helping to counter balance some of the negative PR

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We all know the "GTA/Halo is too violent", "GOW is too brutal", "Burnout teaches kids to drive fast" rubbish that the media discussed all throughout last gen, which didn't stop the PS2 from selling 110 million consoles.

Now all the media talk about is how great Wii is for gaming:

  • Wii is all about fun.
  • Nintendo make a comeback with family friendly Wii.
  • Wii is fun for all ages.

The market for games like GOW, GTA, Halo etc are not going to disappear but the Wii being in the market has changed the general public's view of gaming for the better. Bringing new people into the market is a great thing as it encourages more and more devs to jump in, which means a greater potential of high quality games in the future.

If you don't like the Wii that's cool, but it's done great things already, and hasn't even been out a year. The market for Sony/MS's games aren't going to disappear, but Nintendo has single-handedly gotten rid of all the bad PR games usually receive, which invites more people to enter the market, which stimulates the market further, which is good for everyone.

What do you guys think?

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Nintendo's Wii game system puts violence in motion

Critics fear it promotes violence

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2007/06/23/nintendos_wii_game_system_puts_violence_in_motion/

See you can always depend on someone giving you bad PR....Just look at the title of this story....

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If anything it's making the PR for manhunt worse because it is now known as a "murder simulator" by uninformed people.
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Nintendo's Wii game system puts violence in motion

Critics fear it promotes violence

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2007/06/23/nintendos_wii_game_system_puts_violence_in_motion/

See you can always depend on someone giving you bad PR....Just look at the title of this story....

DanBrim1

Yep, you're right. I edited the title to say "most" bad PR, not "all" cause I agree there will always be some negative media but my point is that it's been overshadowed lately by the positive PR Nintendo has received with the Wii, which is definitely a good thing.

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If anything it's making the PR for manhunt worse because it is now known as a "murder simulator" by uninformed people.Metroid_Time

Yeah, but it's being banned so that completely counters the bad PR.

It shows that Nintendo won't allow games like that on their console.

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thats a very good observation, The_very_best. Although there will always be bad press, the Wii is helping to balance it with good PR

I was just waiting for you to post so I could present you with this:

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Manhunt 2:|
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#13 t2wave
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Manhunt 2:|FrenziedRaldo24
Which they are not allowing on their console. Figure it out.
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[QUOTE="Metroid_Time"]If anything it's making the PR for manhunt worse because it is now known as a "murder simulator" by uninformed people.the-very-best

Yeah, but it's being banned so that completely counters the bad PR.

It shows that Nintendo won't allow games like that on their console.

None Of the Big 3 Will allow that on their systems....Exsept the PC they will..

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#15 the-very-best
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Manhunt 2:|FrenziedRaldo24

Being banned, counters the negative press entirely showing Nintendo won't allow games like that on their console.

thats a very good observation, The_very_best. Although there will always be bad press, the Wii is helping to balance it with good PR

I was just waiting for you to post so I could present you with this:

renger6002

Why thankyou and :lol:.

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It's only a matter of time before Jack Thompson comes up and sues because the Wii is causing people to do violent things, not just the kids, but older/casual gamers tooaaron6581230
Yup it's a time bomb. Lol, that's when Jeff's lust and hatred of the Wii began.
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[QUOTE="aaron6581230"]It's only a matter of time before Jack Thompson comes up and sues because the Wii is causing people to do violent things, not just the kids, but older/casual gamers tooDuckman5
Yup it's a time bomb. Lol, that's when Jeff's lust and hatred of the Wii began.

I don't understand why people think he hates the Wii. It's not like he's gone out and said "Wii is crap".

He gave WW a 9.1/10, yet people only focus on his Zelda review for some reason.

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I agree with you, the Wii is certainly helping out with gaming's bad PR as of late. Still, Manhunt 2 might offset that.
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#19 the-very-best
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I agree with you, the Wii is certainly helping out with gaming's bad PR as of late. Still, Manhunt 2 might offset that.glitchgeeman

It's being banned though. I mean, what more can Nintendo do to show the public it doesn't want games like Manhunt on the Wii?

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#20 tomarlyn
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I think its worked wonders for the industry but hasn't made gaming any better right here and now, its still just a change of air so far. I need to see a good showing at E3.
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A huge claim, but a very accurate observation.

Might I add, I hope people like JT can look past the violence and find said gamesdecent to past the time.

... :|

OK. Maybe a BIG ask. :P

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It's only a matter of time before Jack Thompson comes up and sues because the Wii is causing people to do violent things, not just the kids, but older/casual gamers tooaaron6581230

I can just picture it: "Jack Thompson sues Nintendo for an old man ravingand rantingon about the war and personally re-inacting scenes after playing Call of Duty 3 on the Wii."

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Apparently selling half-decade old hardware in a shiny new box at an inflated price was exactly what the industry needed.
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Apparently selling half-decade old hardware in a shiny new box at an inflated price was exactly what the industry needed.KirbyFan10101

Family friendly system with casual fun.

Nothing wrong with that. There's no law stating every next gen console must have great graphics.

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#25 goblaa
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I can agree with that.

I can also agree withthe idea that MH2 will cause negative press as well.

I also think that the Wii is changing the view of gaming in the public's eye. The public used to always see gaming as this nerd thing that teenage boys did instead of going outside. It was strictly a young male hobby.

But now the public views it as something all can enjoy and relate too.

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[QUOTE="KirbyFan10101"]Apparently selling half-decade old hardware in a shiny new box at an inflated price was exactly what the industry needed.the-very-best

Family friendly system with casual fun.

Nothing wrong with that. There's no law stating every next gen console must have great graphics.

"Casual fun" and "family friendly" being what, exactly? Bright colours and simplistic gameplay?

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Munhunt, No More Heros anyone?
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#28 Jagazaar
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"Casual fun" and "family friendly" being what, exactly? Bright colours and simplistic gameplay?

KirbyFan10101

......You want the most realistic graphics instead, 'Kirby Fan'? :|

On a side note, I'd rather slightly-upgraded graphics with a new control scheme for a budget price than the same gameplay I already have on my PS2 disguised by superior graphics for a MUCH higher price.

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wtf, arent you a super-cow? o.0 forget ur meds this morning?
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wtf, arent you a super-cow? o.0 forget ur meds this morning?flclempire

You must be thinking of someone else. This is the-very-best you're talking about, he's actually a very good poster, and about as impartial to console fanboydom as one can be on this crazy forum.

And on an unrelated note, OUT OF CHEESE ERROR, REDO FROM START. MELON MELON MELON, MILLENIUM HAND AND SHRIMP. BUG'REM.

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#31 Blackbond
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I love how some of you guys act if Nintendo has all of a sudden changed their philosophy in gaming. They are still the same Nintendo. They make the same type of games, they appeal to all audiences, they concentrate on games that everyone can enjoy. Nintendo has been this way since the begining so START to complain now?

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#32 Solid-CELL
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it doesnt matter what/how the public/casuals/media views the Wii. Sure their praising it now, but they'll easily turn back and hate it if anything they dont like is on it. Not only that, i dont think they like to put the blame on just one company, on game, I see it as the media hating on the whole industry.

Like i said, first they hate you, then love you, then back to hate.

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#33 wavebrid
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i just love how you only use Nintendo :|

when Sony, Microsfot, Nintendo wont ALLLOW AO games on there system BE FAIR

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#34 wavebrid
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[QUOTE="flclempire"]wtf, arent you a super-cow? o.0 forget ur meds this morning?Jagazaar

You must be thinking of someone else. This is the-very-best you're talking about, he's actually a very good poster, and about as impartial to console fanboydom as one can be on this crazy forum.

And on an unrelated note, OUT OF CHEESE ERROR, REDO FROM START. MELON MELON MELON, MILLENIUM HAND AND SHRIMP. BUG'REM.

Wrong only useing Nintendo as this excuse when the same thing happening with all consoles. ITS NOT GREAT HE NOT OPEN MIDED. he called being a FANBOY!