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http://wii.ign.com/articles/118/1181170p1.htm

For the past five years Nintendo has opted out out of the HD era. The publisher focused on innovative approaches to control, starting with the Wii Remote and moving into ideas like the Wii Balance Board. The results are known to us all, as Wii dominated the industry for several years before tapering off dramatically in the last year or so.

Nintendo is now preparing to move into HD, both with its next home console and its own game production. Many, including editors at IGN, have wondered if a company that has not been focused on that kind of game development can possibly match what other studios have been working on for over half a decade. A Nintendo investor was wondering the same thing, and asked that question of company president Satoru Iwata.

"You indicated that Nintendo might not have HD video game know-how because we have never developed such games," Iwata told the inquiring investor. "However, there was a scene from 'Zelda' included in the latter half of the Wii U introduction video.

"This scene is from demo software we, in cooperation with a development company, created in a relatively short time before the E3 show, but a person from another Japanese software development company saw this video at E3 and commented, "These kinds of images cannot be easily produced on the gaming machines of other companies," and so we believe we have been able to prepare something, and the quality of which can be appreciated to some extent or more. Because we did this in a relatively short timeframe, we could show that we are not completely behind other companies, so I think you do not have to feel anxious about it."

Iwata reiterated that Nintendo chose not to enter the HD era with Wii because of HD TV adoption rates. "It is not that our decisions were wrong, but it is just that we made these choices," Iwata said. Earlier in his remarks, Iwata noted the company had "judged that the balance between the cost we would have had to pay in order to realize beautiful high-definition images and the merits we could gain from doing so was not worth it."

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#2 turtlethetaffer
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I don't play on an HD TV so I'm not worried about it either.

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#3 yoshi_64
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This article is so pointless and stupid. How could a company with over 25 years of experience, one that has brought about so many disruptions and changes to this industry and paved way with it's innovative products and market changing products, would even be worried about something like a resolution increase in it's games? Did it ever hurt Nintendo to make it's 2D games into 3D? No. Does going from 480p to 1080p damage them? Nah... They'll be fine.
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#4 ShadowMoses900
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I'm not surprised, after the mess that is3DS it's no wonder that they won't go to HD. They're just too scared, they know they can't compete especially with Sony who has the best HD. Period. And by the time the Vita comes out Nintendo will realise they can't compete with that either so what are they gonna do? Stick to motion controls? Sony has that in the bag too so the onlysafe person they can compete with is MS.

Nintendo should just leave it to the professionals at Sony.

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#6 bobcheeseball
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Eh....I sure as hell care about HD so...
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#7 NaveedLife
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I don't play on an HD TV so I'm not worried about it either.

turtlethetaffer

:shock:

Did you read the article? The title is very misleading. And I would say most gamers are playing on an HDTV.

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#8 NaveedLife
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This article is so pointless and stupid. How could a company with over 25 years of experience, one that has brought about so many disruptions and changes to this industry and paved way with it's innovative products and market changing products, would even be worried about something like a resolution increase in it's games? Did it ever hurt Nintendo to make it's 2D games into 3D? No. Does going from 480p to 1080p damage them? Nah... They'll be fine. yoshi_64

hit the nail on the head.

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#9 nameless12345
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I don't know why people think Nintendo is "backwards" when it comes to graphics. Prior to the Wii their consoles were very competitive in terms of graphics and in some ways better than what the competiton had. They just don't put that much emphasis on graphics to make their consoles affordable. I'm positive we would be getting games that looked as good as this from them if there were no hardware limitations.

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#10 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I'm not surprised, after the mess that is3DS it's no wonder that they won't go to HD. They're just too scared, they know they can't compete especially with Sony who has the best HD. Period. And by the time the Vita comes out Nintendo will realise they can't compete with that either so what are they gonna do? Stick to motion controls? Sony has that in the bag too so the onlysafe person they can compete with is MS.

Nintendo should just leave it to the professionals at Sony.

dotWithShoes

Don't read anything do you? Where did they say they 'wont go HD'? How is the 3DS a mess? So by the time they have a commanding sales lead, have atleast 4-5 big time games(2-3 of them being system sellers) out, they will realize they can't compete? Does Sony pay you well?

Sony definately pays me well with all they're awesome and amazing products that they keep making. And they're just too scared to do HD because Sony already owns that territory pretty much and HD really only works with Blu Ray. The 3DS hurts too much to play and just givs me a headache. The Vita is the bettr option IMO.

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[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I'm not surprised, after the mess that is3DS it's no wonder that they won't go to HD. They're just too scared, they know they can't compete especially with Sony who has the best HD. Period. And by the time the Vita comes out Nintendo will realise they can't compete with that either so what are they gonna do? Stick to motion controls? Sony has that in the bag too so the onlysafe person they can compete with is MS.

Nintendo should just leave it to the professionals at Sony.

ShadowMoses900

Don't read anything do you? Where did they say they 'wont go HD'? How is the 3DS a mess? So by the time they have a commanding sales lead, have atleast 4-5 big time games(2-3 of them being system sellers) out, they will realize they can't compete? Does Sony pay you well?

Sony definately pays me well with all they're awesome and amazing products that they keep making. And they're just too scared to do HD because Sony already owns that territory pretty much and HD really only works with Blu Ray. The 3DS hurts too much to play and just givs me a headache. The Vita is the bettr option IMO.

Dude you should do this for a living. That thing in the other thread about putting your finger through the screen was awesome.

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#12 bluelf
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Nintendo can pull off HD, but they will need some help as the article said, but I don't think it will be impossible. I'm more interested in what comes out as a result of it.
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#13 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"] Don't read anything do you? Where did they say they 'wont go HD'? How is the 3DS a mess? So by the time they have a commanding sales lead, have atleast 4-5 big time games(2-3 of them being system sellers) out, they will realize they can't compete? Does Sony pay you well?turtlethetaffer

Sony definately pays me well with all they're awesome and amazing products that they keep making. And they're just too scared to do HD because Sony already owns that territory pretty much and HD really only works with Blu Ray. The 3DS hurts too much to play and just givs me a headache. The Vita is the bettr option IMO.

Dude you should do this for a living. That thing in the other thread about putting your finger through the screen was awesome.

I do stand up comedy part time during the summer when I'm out ofcollege and I use some of the people on here in my work :lol:

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#14 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Sony definately pays me well with all they're awesome and amazing products that they keep making. And they're just too scared to do HD because Sony already owns that territory pretty much and HD really only works with Blu Ray. The 3DS hurts too much to play and just givs me a headache. The Vita is the bettr option IMO.

ShadowMoses900

Dude you should do this for a living. That thing in the other thread about putting your finger through the screen was awesome.

I do stand up comedy part time during the summer when I'm out ofcollege and I use some of the people on here in my work :lol:

Lol nice. Maybe you'll become famous someday?

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#15 Bigboi500
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What is there to discuss here? I see nothing to comment on.

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#17 nameless12345
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Current-gen (and even earier gens) Nintendo games already look great when upscaled to HD. The "proper" ones will even more so. Nintendo understands the importance of good art direction.

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#19 ShadowMoses900
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Current-gen (and even earier gens) Nintendo games already look great when upscaled to HD. The "proper" ones will even more so. Nintendo understands the importance of good art direction.

nameless12345

Really because I have never seen a single nintendo game with good art direction or one in HD, honestly it just seems like they don't know what they're doing. Unlike Sony.

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Really because I have never seen a single nintendo game with good art direction

ShadowMoses900

Which of course is why the Wii is absolutely dominating their competition. Including Sony.

I have never seen a single nintendo game with good art direction

ShadowMoses900

...:shock:

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#21 mariokart64fan
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um mis leading title thread in deed

iwata was talking about last gen to the one who said they cant compete

wii u is hd ,

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#22 Puckhog04
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I've got a 42 inch HDTV. I want Wii U in HD. Granted, it doesn't make or break it for me, just like online doesn't (it really isn't necessary...at least for Consoles, never has been). I do want Wii U in HD though. They need to just do it. Seeing as they missed the online train as it is this generation.

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#23 SolidTy
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Nintendo and HD? I'll see what the final product the Wii U ends up being for myself. :P

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Sony definately pays me well with all they're awesome and amazing products that they keep making. And they're just too scared to do HD because Sony already owns that territory pretty much and HD really only works with Blu Ray. The 3DS hurts too much to play and just givs me a headache. The Vita is the bettr option IMO.

ShadowMoses900

Dude you should do this for a living. That thing in the other thread about putting your finger through the screen was awesome.

I do stand up comedy part time during the summer when I'm out ofcollege and I use some of the people on here in my work :lol:

Can I get a link to that finger through the screen thing?:D

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#24 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Really because I have never seen a single nintendo game with good art direction

bobcheeseball

Which of course is why the Wii is absolutely dominating their competition. Including Sony.

I have never seen a single nintendo game with good art direction

ShadowMoses900

...:shock:

Nah Nintendo just lies about that stuff, they ain't fooling anybody.

And I havn't ever really played a GOOD kirby game since...well...ever and that game looks like a LittleBigPlanet wannabe which is the new king of platformers BTW.

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Sometimes it's really hard to know whether people are for real or not here.

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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I'm not surprised, after the mess that is3DS it's no wonder that they won't go to HD. They're just too scared, they know they can't compete especially with Sony who has the best HD. Period. And by the time the Vita comes out Nintendo will realise they can't compete with that either so what are they gonna do? Stick to motion controls? Sony has that in the bag too so the onlysafe person they can compete with is MS.

Nintendo should just leave it to the professionals at Sony.

dotWithShoes

Don't read anything do you? Where did they say they 'wont go HD'? How is the 3DS a mess? So by the time they have a commanding sales lead, have atleast 4-5 big time games(2-3 of them being system sellers) out, they will realize they can't compete? Does Sony pay you well?

Where is that Adm. Ackabar's "It's a TRAP!" Poster when I need it!

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#27 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I'm not surprised, after the mess that is3DS it's no wonder that they won't go to HD. They're just too scared, they know they can't compete especially with Sony who has the best HD. Period. And by the time the Vita comes out Nintendo will realise they can't compete with that either so what are they gonna do? Stick to motion controls? Sony has that in the bag too so the onlysafe person they can compete with is MS.

Nintendo should just leave it to the professionals at Sony.

StryderK

Don't read anything do you? Where did they say they 'wont go HD'? How is the 3DS a mess? So by the time they have a commanding sales lead, have atleast 4-5 big time games(2-3 of them being system sellers) out, they will realize they can't compete? Does Sony pay you well?

Where is that Adm. Ackabar's "It's a TRAP!" Poster when I need it!

lol Stryder get's it. Good Job.

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This article is so pointless and stupid. How could a company with over 25 years of experience, one that has brought about so many disruptions and changes to this industry and paved way with it's innovative products and market changing products, would even be worried about something like a resolution increase in it's games? Did it ever hurt Nintendo to make it's 2D games into 3D? No. Does going from 480p to 1080p damage them? Nah... They'll be fine. yoshi_64


Having 25 years of experience doesn't mean that their internal technology will magically go from GameCube-era stuff to better-than-PS3 overnight. If they want to even come close to the level of tech that Sony has it will take them some time to ramp up. But I'm guessing Nintendo will continue to keep it simple as much as possible, rather than invest too heavily in R&D.

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Currently playing Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World on my HDTV.

It looks great!

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"judged that the balance between the cost we would have had to pay in order to realize beautiful high-definition images and the merits we could gain from doing so was not worth it." This is BS and it angers me
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[QUOTE="StryderK"]

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"] Don't read anything do you? Where did they say they 'wont go HD'? How is the 3DS a mess? So by the time they have a commanding sales lead, have atleast 4-5 big time games(2-3 of them being system sellers) out, they will realize they can't compete? Does Sony pay you well?ShadowMoses900

Where is that Adm. Ackabar's "It's a TRAP!" Poster when I need it!

lol Stryder get's it. Good Job.

I caught that after reading a few more. :)
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[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]This article is so pointless and stupid. How could a company with over 25 years of experience, one that has brought about so many disruptions and changes to this industry and paved way with it's innovative products and market changing products, would even be worried about something like a resolution increase in it's games? Did it ever hurt Nintendo to make it's 2D games into 3D? No. Does going from 480p to 1080p damage them? Nah... They'll be fine. Teufelhuhn



Having 25 years of experience doesn't mean that their internal technology will magically go from GameCube-era stuff to better-than-PS3 overnight. If they want to even come close to the level of tech that Sony has it will take them some time to ramp up. But I'm guessing Nintendo will continue to keep it simple as much as possible, rather than invest too heavily in R&D.

Even come close to Sony's level of tech? It's over six years old. It's not like it's going to be difficult to bring out a relatively cheap console that could blow away anything that the PS3 or 360 could produce. More to the point, you can rest assured that the WiiU was under development for at least a year or more before it was announced. I'm sure that someone at Nintendo has thought to start training people how to take advantage of the system for the launch date. They have done this kind of thing before over the past 3 decades.

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Coincidentally, I was speaking to HD the other dasy and he said he's not worried about Nintendo. :o :P

Anyhoo,yeah, seems to me it may be talking about this gen.. I dunno.

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http://wii.ign.com/articles/118/1181170p1.htm

For the past five years Nintendo has opted out out of the HD era. The publisher focused on innovative approaches to control, starting with the Wii Remote and moving into ideas like the Wii Balance Board. The results are known to us all, as Wii dominated the industry for several years before tapering off dramatically in the last year or so.

Nintendo is now preparing to move into HD, both with its next home console and its own game production. Many, including editors at IGN, have wondered if a company that has not been focused on that kind of game development can possibly match what other studios have been working on for over half a decade. A Nintendo investor was wondering the same thing, and asked that question of company president Satoru Iwata.

"You indicated that Nintendo might not have HD video game know-how because we have never developed such games," Iwata told the inquiring investor. "However, there was a scene from 'Zelda' included in the latter half of the Wii U introduction video.

"This scene is from demo software we, in cooperation with a development company, created in a relatively short time before the E3 show, but a person from another Japanese software development company saw this video at E3 and commented, "These kinds of images cannot be easily produced on the gaming machines of other companies," and so we believe we have been able to prepare something, and the quality of which can be appreciated to some extent or more. Because we did this in a relatively short timeframe, we could show that we are not completely behind other companies, so I think you do not have to feel anxious about it."

Iwata reiterated that Nintendo chose not to enter the HD era with Wii because of HD TV adoption rates. "It is not that our decisions were wrong, but it is just that we made these choices," Iwata said. Earlier in his remarks, Iwata noted the company had "judged that the balance between the cost we would have had to pay in order to realize beautiful high-definition images and the merits we could gain from doing so was not worth it."

HaloPimp978

Now where does it say nintendo isn't worried about HD?

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#36 HaloPimp978
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Current-gen (and even earier gens) Nintendo games already look great when upscaled to HD. The "proper" ones will even more so. Nintendo understands the importance of good art direction.

ShadowMoses900

Really because I have never seen a single nintendo game with good art direction

Ever heard of Kirby's Epic Yard? Best art game on the Wii IMO.

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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Current-gen (and even earier gens) Nintendo games already look great when upscaled to HD. The "proper" ones will even more so. Nintendo understands the importance of good art direction.

HaloPimp978

Really because I have never seen a single nintendo game with good art direction

Ever heard of Kirby's Epic Yard? Best art game on the Wii IMO.

While I disagree with what you are responding to, I also think Kirbys Yarn was terrible in every sense of the word.

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#38 HaloPimp978
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[QUOTE="HaloPimp978"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Really because I have never seen a single nintendo game with good art direction

Heirren

Ever heard of Kirby's Epic Yard? Best art game on the Wii IMO.

While I disagree with what you are responding to, I also think Kirbys Yarn was terrible in every sense of the word.

Okay whatever you say, its your opinion and the world would be boring if we all agreed.

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it is going to be interesting to see how ninty ramp up. tech wise they have around 5-6 years of catching up to do. but its not like they need to figure everything out again. the impression im getting from devs is that the wiiu is using fairly standard hardware so all the R&D done so far can still be applied. the zelda demo is certainly a good indicator that they are getting the hang of it. this, i suspect, was a demo of their main engine that they will use for the next big zelda and mario games. there are certain areas in that demo that indicate that its a work in progress (the engine not the game...as nitny kept stressing that is not a demo of a new zelda) but nintys artists and tech guys seem to be getting to grips with it. ...or maybe the next zeldas and mario will run on the unreal engine. O_O ninty dont you dare! :P.
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#40 milannoir
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I'm not surprised, after the mess that is3DS it's no wonder that they won't go to HD. They're just too scared, they know they can't compete especially with Sony who has the best HD. Period. And by the time the Vita comes out Nintendo will realise they can't compete with that either so what are they gonna do? Stick to motion controls? Sony has that in the bag too so the onlysafe person they can compete with is MS.

Nintendo should just leave it to the professionals at Sony.

ShadowMoses900

Your reading comprehension is a mess.

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#41 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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They're talking about last gen... The Wii U is confirmed to output in 1080p, so where's the issue? :?
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]This article is so pointless and stupid. How could a company with over 25 years of experience, one that has brought about so many disruptions and changes to this industry and paved way with it's innovative products and market changing products, would even be worried about something like a resolution increase in it's games? Did it ever hurt Nintendo to make it's 2D games into 3D? No. Does going from 480p to 1080p damage them? Nah... They'll be fine. myke2010



Having 25 years of experience doesn't mean that their internal technology will magically go from GameCube-era stuff to better-than-PS3 overnight. If they want to even come close to the level of tech that Sony has it will take them some time to ramp up. But I'm guessing Nintendo will continue to keep it simple as much as possible, rather than invest too heavily in R&D.

Even come close to Sony's level of tech? It's over six years old. It's not like it's going to be difficult to bring out a relatively cheap console that could blow away anything that the PS3 or 360 could produce. More to the point, you can rest assured that the WiiU was under development for at least a year or more before it was announced. I'm sure that someone at Nintendo has thought to start training people how to take advantage of the system for the launch date. They have done this kind of thing before over the past 3 decades.

:D SO TRUE!

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#43 CwlHeddwyn
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Nintendo are going for full 1080p HD, the current HD Twins barely run 720p.

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#44 deactivated-61cf0c4baf12e
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I'm not surprised, after the mess that is3DS it's no wonder that they won't go to HD. They're just too scared, they know they can't compete especially with Sony who has the best HD. Period. And by the time the Vita comes out Nintendo will realise they can't compete with that either so what are they gonna do? Stick to motion controls? Sony has that in the bag too so the onlysafe person they can compete with is MS.

Nintendo should just leave it to the professionals at Sony.

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Or just stick with MP!... no wait... MS own everyone with that.

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#45 Heil68
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I don't play on an HD TV so I'm not worried about it either.

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How barbaric!!!! :P I do and am anxious to see what the WiiU will do.
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#46 Heil68
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Nintendo are going for full 1080p HD, the current HD Twins barely run 720p.

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It appears that the PS3 does NATIVE 1080p quite well. http://community.us.playstation.com/thread/2247017?start=0&tstart=0
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#47 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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So is it confirmed that I must seek out my old tube tv that I gave to a friend, years back?

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#48 WreckEm711
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I'm not surprised, after the mess that is3DS it's no wonder that they won't go to HD. They're just too scared, they know they can't compete especially with Sony who has the best HD. Period. And by the time the Vita comes out Nintendo will realise they can't compete with that either so what are they gonna do? Stick to motion controls? Sony has that in the bag too so the onlysafe person they can compete with is MS.

Nintendo should just leave it to the professionals at Sony.

ShadowMoses900
Lmao,you didn't even read the article, and now you look silly because what you said has NOTHING to do with it :lol:
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#49 haziqonfire
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This article is pretty silly.

Considering Nintendo transitioned from 2D to 3D, I'm fairly certain they'll be able to work with more polygons and a higher resolution...

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#50 NaveedLife
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When the article says Nintendo is not worried about HD, it means they are not worried about how difficult it will be to implement and prove themselves. Clearly they can do it, as they pointed out the Zelda tech demo thrown together in relatively short time at E3.