Nintendo out to sell consoles, and nothing more.

Since the Wii was announced Nintendo has been going on and on about broadening their gamer market, to bring back the gamers of yesterday but also to bring something new for the gamers of today. After watching their E3 press announcement and looking back on their recent decisions, I've concluded that it seems that Nintendo's goals are to sell consoles, and nothing more. I myself fell ill w/ the nintendo bug, I bought a Nintendo Wii the first month of it's launch, after buying and trading in a few titles it became nothing more than a paperweight that sat beside my TV, I later sold it to my aunt, where it now sits as a paperweight next to her TV.

It seems to me that yes Nintendo has broadened their audience but has done little to nothing to please any of them. With the innovation the nintendo Wii offers and how hot of an item it is, you would think Nintendo would do more to control the market. Since the Wii's launch Nintendo has only released a handful of titles worth owning, most of which have different target audiences. It seems to me that Nintendo thinks that if they release 1 good game towards 10% of it's audience a year, they're happy. What about all the hard core gamers who bought the wii, sure we have SSBB and Zelda, but what's next? And for the casual gamer, are they doomed to nothing more than Wii sports games for the rest of this console generation?

Also it seems that Nintendo's third party companions are all about quantity not quality when it comes to the Wii. Every time I go into gamestop I see a wall of titles most of which have struggled to make it past a 5.0 review. All that said, Nintendo has always, and still does one thing right, handhelds, but Nintendo has been banking on their handhelds for too long, the DS can only take them so far. In the end I believe Nintendo needs to spend less time thinking about how good their consoles are selling and more time thinking about how poorly their software is. This is just my opinion and nothing more. Feel free to let me know how you feel on the subject.

Nintendo is out to make money. They are succeeding flawlessly at this point.

Not saying I like it (Actually, I hate their approach ATM) but they are doing exactly what they wanted to do.

Since the Wii was announced Nintendo has been going on and on about broadening their gamer market, to bring back the gamers of yesterday but also to bring something new for the gamers of today. After watching their E3 press announcement and looking back on their recent decisions, I've concluded that it seems that Nintendo's goals are to sell consoles, and nothing more. I myself fell ill w/ the nintendo bug, I bought a Nintendo Wii the first month of it's launch, after buying and trading in a few titles it became nothing more than a paperweight that sat beside my TV, I later sold it to my aunt, where it now sits as a paperweight next to her TV.

It seems to me that yes Nintendo has broadened their audience but has done little to nothing to please any of them. With the innovation the nintendo Wii offers and how hot of an item it is, you would think Nintendo would do more to control the market. Since the Wii's launch Nintendo has only released a handful of titles worth owning, most of which have different target audiences. It seems to me that Nintendo thinks that if they release 1 good game towards 10% of it's audience a year, they're happy. What about all the hard core gamers who bought the wii, sure we have SSBB and Zelda, but what's next? And for the casual gamer, are they doomed to nothing more than Wii sports games for the rest of this console generation?

Also it seems that Nintendo's third party companions are all about quantity not quality when it comes to the Wii. Every time I go into gamestop I see a wall of titles most of which have struggled to make it past a 5.0 review. All that said, Nintendo has always, and still does one thing right, handhelds, but Nintendo has been banking on their handhelds for too long, the DS can only take them so far. In the end I believe Nintendo needs to spend less time thinking about how good their consoles are selling and more time thinking about how poorly their software is. This is just my opinion and nothing more. Feel free to let me know how you feel on the subject.

drumline212

Nintendo gives hardcore fans animal crossing, confirms new kid icarus, new zeldas are being made, hints at a super mario galaxy 2, hints at pikmin 3, gives wii owners voice chat, gets deadrising on the wii, shows off madworld, shows off the conduit, shows off wii music, and shows off call of duty:world at war

and you're ungrateful enough to say they aren't helping their core fans?

wow, dude get over it. e3 isn't the place to find out everything. we don't need 30 minutes speeches on the cell from nintendo

i mean wii motion plus officially distanted themselves from anyone else who tries to get into motion controls

YOU KNOW ZELDA will come out in 2009 or 2010 with full motion plus controls

that has me very, very, very excited.

Casual gamers are the ones that drive this industry, not the hardcore gamers. Nintendo can make a LOT more money by making casual games than they can by making hardcore games. This is evidenced by the fact that Wii Play has sold over 10 million units despite being a very bad game, while games like Zelda struggle to sell 5 million copies.

If by clever, you mean having the most diappointing E3 ever.Anysteam

Disappointing its fans is what Nintendo does best! :)

Casual gamers are the ones that drive this industry, not the hardcore gamers. Nintendo can make a LOT more money by making casual games than they can by making hardcore games. This is evidenced by the fact that Wii Play has sold over 10 million units despite being a very bad game, while games like Zelda struggle to sell 5 million copies.

metswonin69

I agree that casuals drive the industry. but i think most ppl get wiiplay because it's a 10 game that comes with a wiimote.

Casual gamers are the ones that drive this industry, not the hardcore gamers. Nintendo can make a LOT more money by making casual games than they can by making hardcore games. This is evidenced by the fact that Wii Play has sold over 10 million units despite being a very bad game, while games like Zelda struggle to sell 5 million copies.

metswonin69

Twilight Princess and Super Mario Galaxy have both sold over 6 million copies

I wouldn't say struggles

[QUOTE="Anysteam"]If by clever, you mean having the most diappointing E3 ever.metswonin69

Disappointing its fans is what Nintendo does best! :)

I thought that was Sega's job?

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Casual gamers are the ones that drive this industry, not the hardcore gamers. Nintendo can make a LOT more money by making casual games than they can by making hardcore games. This is evidenced by the fact that Wii Play has sold over 10 million units despite being a very bad game, while games like Zelda struggle to sell 5 million copies.

darth-pyschosis

Twilight Princess and Super Mario Galaxy have both sold over 6 million copies

I wouldn't say struggles

Zelda didn't break 5 million on the wii according to vgchartz.

Actually, your conclusion is wrong. Nintendo makes more money selling software than they do hardware. So their primary focus will always be software. Being able to sell as much hardware as they can is the means towards where they can make more profit selling their software.

As for E3, stop overreacting. E3 is no longer the gaming behemoth it was. Nintendo announced almost nothing in their E3 last year and yet they announced SSBB and Mario Kart Wii at later points.

Seriously, all this crying is starting to look hilarious. In fact, I think I'll just start laughing at all the cry babies that E3 is bringing out :lol:

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[QUOTE="Anysteam"]If by clever, you mean having the most diappointing E3 ever.-Wheels-

Disappointing its fans is what Nintendo does best! :)

I thought that was Sega's job?

Well by now Sega fans expect mediocrity out of their favorite company, so they aren't really disappointed anymore. Nintendo fans still have faith that their company can amaze them, yet they rarely ever succeed.

I never get the Nintendo hate. Wii hate... maybe. But not Nintendo. Nintendo has put out like every great game on the Wii. Gamers buy Nintendo systems because they want Mario, Smash Brother, Zelda, Metroid and all those classic Nintendo franchises. NINTENDO HAS GIVEN YOU INSANELY HIGH RATED GAMES FROM THESE SERIES ON THE Wii. If you're a nintendo gamer, what is there to complain about. They gave you the titles you really want and they made sure they hit the ball out the park each time. Thats just whats out. They announce a new Zelda, new Kid Icarus (classic franchise thats about to get Nintendo's patented "AAA at worst development"), Animal Crossing. They hint at new Mario (last mario game was GOTY btw), Pikmin 3...

WHAT ARE YOU MAD AT NINTENDO ABOUT? They make too many AAA+ games? They make too many quality franchises with solid titles in each?

Even the Wii is shaping up. You could have been mad about shovelware, but I think that complaint is something cows and lemmings made up. I've never heard of judging a system by its bad games instead of its good games. The Wii gave us motion controls which have been fun. Maybe they didn't work with 3rd parties enough to do everything they could to ensure they'd understand the system and make games, but thats changing. Thats clearly changing.

My advise to the "Hardcore gamer" is to wipe away your tears and buck up.

This gamer crowd who's tears and whiney complains have been streaming on the web for nearly two years have no one but themselves to blame. Every console generation since NES they marketed to you "The gamer" and every gaming generation the hardcore gamer moved away from Nintendo little by little

NES had an 80 million userbase,

SNES had a 49 Million userbase

N64 had a 33 million userbase

and of course Gamecube with a 22 million userbase.

Had Nintendo once again made the mistake to cater to the "gamer crowd" I can only imagine how terrible the numbers would look this generation for their console.

Good for Nintendo for realizing that gamers make up such a small portion of the marketplace its not even worth fighting for their love anymore, leave those scraps for Microsoft and Sony to fight over.

Its interesting that everytime I read these "Nintendo only cares about console sales" or "Nintendo doesn't make games people buy" threads, I just laugh.

Wii-Fit has been on the market for a few months, its still sold out in most places yet its still sold more copies then any PS3 game, exclusive multiplatform or otherwise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#PlayStation_3

Wii-Music, I would imagine again will most likely outsell most of the "hardcore" games that will be presented at E3

The "hardcore gamer" needs to understand Nintendo doesn't need you. Heck, they don't even want you and the irony is that with all the crying and all the tears its the most casual system in gaming history that is mopping the floor with the two companies who have done everything in their power to attract the very consumers that walked away from Nintendo years ago.

Nintendo cares about turning a profit and having the product with the broadest appeal and based on the console and software sales they have done that and then some

welcome to buisness...they are trying to make games to please everyone and unfortunatly failing.

but hey, they did what every buisness vies for...to be able to roll naked in endless piles of cash.

welcome to buisness...they are trying to make games to please everyone and unfortunatly failing.

but hey, they did what every buisness vies for...to be able to roll naked in endless piles of cash.

darkspineslayer

Well they are making games that please most everyone except for people that play video games as their main hobby.

Casual gamers are the ones that drive this industry, not the hardcore gamers. Nintendo can make a LOT more money by making casual games than they can by making hardcore games. This is evidenced by the fact that Wii Play has sold over 10 million units despite being a very bad game, while games like Zelda struggle to sell 5 million copies.

metswonin69

Wii Play comes with a wiimote for 10 extra dollars. The way I see it, any average consumer would get it for a measly 10$, even if it is subpar. I just read the review and yes it fails as a 50$ game, but for 10$ I would still get it. You can't compare that to Zelda which costs 5x as much, and doesn't come bundled with an essential peripheral. This arguement is pretty weak.

[QUOTE="metswonin69"]

Casual gamers are the ones that drive this industry, not the hardcore gamers. Nintendo can make a LOT more money by making casual games than they can by making hardcore games. This is evidenced by the fact that Wii Play has sold over 10 million units despite being a very bad game, while games like Zelda struggle to sell 5 million copies.

Overclockd

Wii Play comes with a wiimote for 10 extra dollars. The way I see it, any average consumer would get it for a measly 10$, even if it is subpar. I just read the review and yes it fails as a 50$ game, but for 10$ I would still get it. You can't compare that to Zelda which costs 5x as much, and doesn't come bundled with an essential peripheral. This arguement is pretty weak.

Well what about Mario Party 8 and the Mario Olympic game? Those aren't very good games but they sell a lot because of the large casual market. Most of the games that lead the Wii sales chart are very casual games.

[QUOTE="Overclockd"][QUOTE="metswonin69"]

Casual gamers are the ones that drive this industry, not the hardcore gamers. Nintendo can make a LOT more money by making casual games than they can by making hardcore games. This is evidenced by the fact that Wii Play has sold over 10 million units despite being a very bad game, while games like Zelda struggle to sell 5 million copies.

metswonin69

Wii Play comes with a wiimote for 10 extra dollars. The way I see it, any average consumer would get it for a measly 10$, even if it is subpar. I just read the review and yes it fails as a 50$ game, but for 10$ I would still get it. You can't compare that to Zelda which costs 5x as much, and doesn't come bundled with an essential peripheral. This arguement is pretty weak.

Well what about Mario Party 8 and the Mario Olympic game? Those aren't very good games but they sell a lot because of the large casual market. Most of the games that lead the Wii sales chart are very casual games.

I wasn't trying to say that casuals don't drive the market, but that wii play is a weak example.

But the sales of Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games really do scare me.