Nintendo - the first to everything?

I just want to know IF they really can be said to be the most innovative.Autzerain

It's a safe enough assumption to make.

*stuff*
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Could you give some examples of who did what first please? Autzerain

If you look far back enough someone will surely find something. Afterall, the Wright brothers are often considered the fathers of flight, but before that, Davici attempted it, and before that, Abbas Ibn Firnas attempted it. But the Wright brothers kicked it off and perfected it. Just like how you said Nintendo has revolutionized the things you have stated.

Saying that, I do think it's safe to say"post hoc ergo propter hoc" and say that Nintendo pionered most of what gaming is today. Aoccurred, then Boccurred.

But for some reason Nintendo haters want to deny this, bassically stating that Abbas Ibn Firnas' winged suit kicked off flight. Hehehe you know how it is.

When my sig comes true: "It wasn't Nintendo, it was dreamcast" will be cried.

The save feature line alone just bought you 500 raging posts, and the rest is... well.. good luck!

The save feature line alone just bought you 500 raging posts, and the rest is... well.. good luck!

ConanTheStoner

First to create a home console: No. There were many before the NES, but the NES brought gaming back into popularity.

First to have face buttons : No, as mentioned above, there were many consoles before the NES.

First to shoulder buttons: Not sure about this one. Could've been the SNES.

First to analog control: Atari had it first.

First to 3D graphics: Hard to say, since before the N64 era there were games that are in 3D (e.g Starfox), so I'm not sure who or what was first. Probably not Nintendo though.

First to implement Z-targetting and auto-jump: I guess Zelda did that.

First to create a handheld gaming device: See Mattel Auto Race Wikipedia page.

First to glasses-free 3D (in general?): This technology was being used outside of video games. But I guess Nintendo brought it into gaming.

First to motion controls: Nyko Power Glove isn't made by Nintendo, but it is licenced by them. Regardless, you could say the computer mouse is motion controlled too, and that predated the glove.

Also, as a little side question, what was the selling point or the innovation with the Gamecube?
There wasn't much other than better graphics, and just a new console to play with the Nintendo exclusives.
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Yes, they are also the first to make someone rage-enter the console market XD ( Sony ).Banjo_Kongfooie

If you look far back enough someone will surely find something. Afterall, the Wright brothers are often considered the fathers of flight, but before that, Davici attempted it, and before that, Abbas Ibn Firnas attempted it. But the Wright brothers kicked it off and perfected it. Just like how you said Nintendo has revolutionized the things you have stated.

D4W1L4H

Indeed, that said though, it's still debated if the Wright brothers were even the ones to kick it off in the first place: Look into Alberto Santos Dumont, and hell, many others. The Wright brothers are, without a doubt, the most well known.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]i'm just curious at how you came to "first home console". did you not know the atari existed?Autzerain

Go play some Colecovision

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Yes, they are also the first to make someone rage-enter the console market XD ( Sony ).Autzerain

Sony had a partnership with Nintendo to make the SNES CD and at the last minute Nintendo switched their partnership to Phillips because the contract with Sony gave Sony control over what was released on it.

So at the CES, Sony went and expected Nintendo to announce their partnership... And they mentioned Phillips instead.

Sony then attempted releasing the "Play station" as a stand alone console and Nintendo sued them for breach of contract. Sony later renamed the Play Station, Playstation to end Nintendo's involvement.

So basically the very fact that there is a Playstation is due to Nintendo.

There were home consoles before the NES.

There were home consoles before the NES.

Demonjoe93

Were they good though?

Pong, Pacman, Asteroids? Were they not all just arcade ports?

[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

There were home consoles before the NES.

Banjo_Kongfooie

Were they good though?

Pong, Pacman, Asteroids? Were they not all just arcade ports?

Quality of the software might've been hit or miss, but that's certainly not enough to discredit them.

I had a console called "Fountain" in the mid 80's, I believe it was out way before the nes, it had like 9 face buttons and an anologue stick, it also had multipayer ( two players ). Games that I had were, Pac man, Shooting Gallery, Invaders, Pong, Spiders Web. I had so much fun with that as a kid.

ummm no.

I can confirm

First to create a home console

no

First to analog control

no
First to 3D graphics

no
First to motion controls

no

Most of the other ones probably aren't true either.

First to have face buttons

what?

[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

There were home consoles before the NES.

Banjo_Kongfooie

Were they good though?

Pong, Pacman, Asteroids? Were they not all just arcade ports?

Some arcade ports, many more original titles. Some of them classic, some epic failures as well.

[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

There were home consoles before the NES.

Banjo_Kongfooie

Were they good though?

Pong, Pacman, Asteroids? Were they not all just arcade ports?

I could be wrong but I think Mario made it's debut in one of those consoles pre-NES, mario vs donkey kong ? I think it was just called donkey kong though

This is what I think to be true about Nintendo's firsts:

First to create a home console

Atari

First to have a "save" feature for games

PC

First to have face buttons

Atari for console, PCs even earlier

First to shoulder buttons

That I know of

First to analog control

Atari 5200 certainly, perhaps PC sticks earlier

First to 3D graphics

PC, way back in '81

First to implement Z-targetting and auto-jump

??? I... don't know and may not even understand...

First to create a handheld gaming device

Handheld electronic games date back to the 70's, Gameboy is the first I know of with removable cartridges though...

First to glasses-free 3D (in general?)

For gaming? That I know of, yes

First to motion controls

Sony had the Eyetoy before the Wii, unsure if others came even earlier

Autzerain

Answers in red

If you want to learn about the history of video games...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_(first_generation)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_(second_generation)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_(third_generation)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_(foruth_generation)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_(fifth_generation)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_(sixth_generation)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_(seventh_generation)

Simple.

I THINK hes right about Z-Targetting. OOT is praised all too often for revolutionising 3D games with it.

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

There were home consoles before the NES.

Joedgabe

Were they good though?

Pong, Pacman, Asteroids? Were they not all just arcade ports?

I could be wrong but I think Mario made it's debut in one of those consoles pre-NES, mario vs donkey kong ? I think it was just called donkey kong though

Donkey Kong was definitely on the Atari 2600, and yes, Mario was in it

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

There were home consoles before the NES.

Joedgabe

Were they good though?

Pong, Pacman, Asteroids? Were they not all just arcade ports?

I could be wrong but I think Mario made it's debut in one of those consoles pre-NES, mario vs donkey kong ? I think it was just called donkey kong though

:lol:

I stopped reading after "First home console".

I think its safe to say that Nintendo did more to modern gaming (or gaming in general)than any other game developers out there.

Lol. Tbh Nintendo is hardly the first to anything. That said they do have a way of making things become standard which is respectable.

first to create a home console?

there was already a video game market and crash before the NES even launched.

sony i think did these first -dual analogue -pressure sensitive face buttons -standardized the controller layout -wireless controllers? (in terms of game controllers...tv remotes and such dont count) in terms of some of nintendos things u listed..its not hard to be the first of things when you are pretty much the father of video games.campzor

What do you mean by this? Wasn't the PS1's design largely influenced by the SNES? Sony didn't do wireless controllers either, Nintendo did with the Wavebird. I think there were even wireless controllers for the Sega Saturn.

Nintendo isn't the father of Videogames. :?

sony i think did these first

-wireless controllers? (in terms of game controllers...tv remotes and such dont count) campzor

Dont know if they were the first but sega already had a wireless controller for the Mega Drive.

[QUOTE="campzor"]sony i think did these first -dual analogue -pressure sensitive face buttons -standardized the controller layout -wireless controllers? (in terms of game controllers...tv remotes and such dont count) in terms of some of nintendos things u listed..its not hard to be the first of things when you are pretty much the father of video games.hakanakumono

What do you mean by this? Wasn't the PS1's design largely influenced by the SNES? Sony didn't do wireless controllers either, Nintendo did with the Wavebird. I think there were even wireless controllers for the Sega Saturn.

Nintendo isn't the father of Videogames. :?

[QUOTE="campzor"]

sony i think did these first

-wireless controllers? (in terms of game controllers...tv remotes and such dont count) Arach666

Dont know if they were the first but sega already had a wireless controller for the Mega Drive.

The mega drive has wireless bluetooth controllers, which I thought were cool but in fact sucked, you had to have a direct line with the system, someone blocks that line and the controller stops working.

Not the first for online play.

Not the first for online play.

lild1425

[QUOTE="Autzerain"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Yes, they are also the first to make someone rage-enter the console market XD ( Sony ).Banjo_Kongfooie

Sony had a partnership with Nintendo to make the SNES CD and at the last minute Nintendo switched their partnership to Phillips because the contract with Sony gave Sony control over what was released on it.

So at the CES, Sony went and expected Nintendo to announce their partnership... And they mentioned Phillips instead.

Sony then attempted releasing the "Play station" as a stand alone console and Nintendo sued them for breach of contract. Sony later renamed the Play Station, Playstation to end Nintendo's involvement.

So basically the very fact that there is a Playstation is due to Nintendo.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]i'm just curious at how you came to "first home console". did you not know the atari existed?Autzerain

but... but... how? D:

its controller is practically the videogame icon:

I don't think this is the best place to post this but either way... I've been thinking about this a lot recently, specially with the excitement of Skyward Sword and how most people feel it was the game that finally defined motion controls. As the topic says, was Nintendo the first to everything? I've mostly only owned Nintendo products, and I'm relatively young compared to the gaming industry so it's hard for me to get the story behind other systems and gaming history in general. This is what I think to be true about Nintendo's firsts: First to create a home console First to have a "save" feature for games First to have face buttons First to shoulder buttons First to analog control First to 3D graphics First to implement Z-targetting and auto-jump First to create a handheld gaming device First to glasses-free 3D (in general?) First to motion controls Some of these I know it's not entirely true, for example I know there were several 3D games before the N64. But just how much of an impact has Nintendo had? Were they really the first to implement all these things, or simply the first to standardize them all? As I see things, they are at least the first to release all of these things, even if not the first to perfect them (such as 1:1 motion which I think PS3 Move did first, etc). Also, as a little side question, what was the selling point or the innovation with the Gamecube? Was it just improved graphics or something more? Please try and be as concrete and factual about your responses. It's not my intention to have Nintendo come out as the best company simply because they "created everything" or were the best innovators or something. I just want to know IF they really can be said to be the most innovative.Autzerain